DARK SHADOWS FORUMS
General Discussions => Current Talk Archive => Current Talk '24 I => Current Talk '02 I => Topic started by: Dr. Eric Lang on April 20, 2002, 01:47:06 AM
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If you lived at Collinwood, which room would you live in?
Me - I'd take the Tower Room. How perfect would that be? The exterior shot of the Tower in yesterday's episode shows a fireplace chimney. Seems like a nice, cozy room. I might want to install an elevator, though.
Which room would you make your own?
Chris
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I don't know. I think of the rooms we saw in the show, I'd love to take over Roger's study. What a great place to sit and write. But if I could make up a room I'd design a music conservatory...certainly as large as Collinwood was they would have had a ballroom or something like it... :)
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I don't know. I think of the rooms we saw in the show, I'd love to take over Roger's study. What a great place to sit and write. But if I could make up a room I'd design a music conservatory...certainly as large as Collinwood was they would have had a ballroom or something like it... :)
I'm not sure, but by the looks of it, there IS a ball room, though it never appeared in the show. But if you look closely at the back of Seaview Terrace, the section to the right of the Tower looks to be an immense ball room. There is another shot in the "Dark Shadows On Location" video that shows the actual interior of this room, after having been converted to a school. It does look like it was originally a ball room
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Can I go to the room of Harry Johnson? Wherever his room was, I would be there too!
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preferably somewhere in the west wing...as far away as i could from the loons that inhabit the regular part of the house ;D. that room where they entered pt would be cool, have to dump the pic of angelique of course, put some portraits of famous racehorses up, have a keg on tap at all times, up to date computer with the whole table and drawers for it, wide screen tv with every cable channel available, so i could watch the daily ds programs lol yeah, thats the ticket 8)
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Harry Johnson, I believe got stuck on the first floor and I'm guessing that his bedroom was pretty spartan.
Most of the bedrooms left me cold, but if I had to choose from what we saw, I would take the one they gave Amy--would want a double bed though. I'm thinking that it would need to lack a secret entrance of any kind and that I would need to outfit the windows with some garlic and crucifixes.
Luciaphil
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preferably somewhere in the west wing...as far away as i could from the loons that inhabit the regular part of the house
Hmm - Quentin's room is in the West Wing. He had a really nice suite of rooms, actually, with a sort of sitting room off the hall entrance and a bedroom beyond that which was eventually bricked up and sealed off.
that room where they entered pt would be cool, have to dump the pic of angelique of course, put some portraits of famous racehorses up, have a keg on tap at all times, up to date computer with the whole table and drawers for it, wide screen tv with every cable channel available, so i could watch the daily ds programs lol yeah, thats the ticket 8)
The East Wing Parallel time room??? Are you crazy? :o You might be transported to some bizarro-world.
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Most of the bedrooms left me cold, but if I had to choose from what we saw, I would take the one they gave Amy--would want a double bed though. I'm thinking that it would need to lack a secret entrance of any kind and that I would need to outfit the windows with some garlic and crucifixes.
Yes, Amy had one of the nicer rooms. However, in the beginning of the series (pre-Barnabas), Elizabeth had a perfectly enormous bedroom, befitting the matriarch of Collinwood. That room would be my second choice, after the Tower Room. ;)
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lol yes chris, that is true, i am sure it wouldnt have the normal things in it, such as leviathans trying to seduce you into their cause, a werewolf that tends to shrink when he transforms, a black shadow that chases folks, a warlock who has been given a second chance, a once evil witch that has turned into a good witch, kids that seem to grow up at alarming rates and such.... ;)
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Well, I suppose I prefer the drawing room, but since you asked which room would you live in - that implies one's own room. I didn't care for any of the bedrooms!
I'll go along with PT Angelique's room. If it wasn't a time shifting room, just a regular room, it's certainly my favorite and the views of it, I think, are major contributors to my liking that story!!
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I'm not sure, but by the looks of it, there IS a ball room, though it never appeared in the show. But if you look closely at the back of Seaview Terrace, the section to the right of the Tower looks to be an immense ball room. There is another shot in the "Dark Shadows On Location" video that shows the actual interior of this room, after having been converted to a school. It does look like it was originally a ball room
Seaview/Carey Mansion does have a ballroom, but it's located on the far right side of the mansion, around the corner and behind the solarium; the solarium is the last row of windows you see on the right in the opening shots on the show. An old magazine photo of how the ballroom looked in its heyday was on one of the old boards; I can post it if anyone is interested in seeing it.
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What about Vicki's room! !I'd take the cottage though myself!
jennifer
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I don't know why but the rooms at Collinwood, (especially the bedrooms) always appeared so cold to me, compared to the old house, which seemed to have a much warmer setting to them. Having to choose one at Collinwood though, I'd say Carolyn's room then.
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In a heartbeat, I'd want to take Barnabas' old room in The Old House. Great angle, window, and nice brick fireplace. Very cozy. (And preferably with Barnabas in it, but that wasn't the question ;D )
At Collinwood, I like David's room, perhaps because of the stained glass window, and the shape/angle of the room. Seemed like when the window was open, it overlooked the grounds toward the ocean.
Other than that, I could never really "warm up" to Collinwood's bedrooms either. Unless of course, Quentin was around with his brandy, a fireplace, and :-X........whoa, better stop here! LOL :-*
Karen #2
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I agree with Jenifer and like the caretaker's cottage. But if you are limiting the selection to the Big House it would be the Library (if there is one) or the Study.
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I'm with you VAM....just send me where the books are. And then send Willie with a pot of tea!! ;)
Rainey
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I'm with you VAM....just send me where the books are. And then send Willie with a pot of tea!! ;)
Rainey
I didn't want to say this but the child in me always wanted to slide down the rail of the staircase in the foyer of the Big House! ::)
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I liked the study, it seemed like a peaceful, cozy room.
Liz had a nice, big bedroom, and Vicki's wasn't bad. Carolyn had the most modern-looking bedroom for the time, and I thought that quite cool.
For privacy, give me the cottage, though. Nice, small, intimate. . .a great place to write and think--and turn into a werewolf, if the spirit hits you!
Love, Robin
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Let's see I'd like the East wing room too, the PT room, properly exorcised and adjusted. . nice big picture window, fireplace, lovely colors. . OR. . Joshua & Naomi's room at the Old House. . that was nice too. BIG is what I want. . room for all my crap nicely laid out so it doesn't look cluttered and crappy. .
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I really like Roger's study, a good place to relax and enjoy some peace and quiet.
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I dont care what room I lived in, I just would want to live at Collinwood. That house is one of the best in Soaps. However, I think I would want to live at the New house, and not the OLD...
jon
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Well I love the drawing room best. But I'm with LizGrayson in that I would love to imagine and design other rooms that might have been. For instance, I really think the room they needed to add most was a dinning room (what a shame they never showed them sitting around a long, long candle-lit table in a formal dinning room discussing the latest strange event at the old manor house!) I also love the conservatory idea and an atrium too with lots of ferns, glass, maybe a few tall wicker chairs and an indoor fountain. And the kitchen was ALL wrong IMO! It should have been much bigger and much older looking. They also could have used a musty old library. Of course this would probably have meant a much bigger studio and many more $$$'s involved.
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An old magazine photo of how the ballroom looked in its heyday was on one of the old boards; I can post it if anyone is interested in seeing it.
YES! Please do so. Thanks!
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I agree with Jenifer and like the caretaker's cottage. But if you are limiting the selection to the Big House it would be the Library (if there is one) or the Study.
No, any property on the Collins estate will do, so even Josette's room is available!
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Enjoy, Chris_2! (I could NOT get into AOL's FTP at all last nite.)
This is from Newport Life - City Guide 2001, which is still on the stands through next month! The wonderful article about the history of Seaview Terrace is House of Dark Shadows by DS fan Michael Seggie, an expert on the real Collinwood.
Photo is of the ballroom (here called the music room) taken shortly after the house's 1925 debut, the focal point a 16th century Flemish tapestry. The caption states that the house's furnishings and rare art collection were sold at auction in the 1940s to pay back taxes.
(http://members.aol.com/MidniteFMR/Ballroom.jpg)
The ballroom is on the far right (peeking out from behind the solarium) in my photo below taken last summer. It was closed off by the Carey family at that time for renovation.
(http://members.aol.com/MidniteFMR/Collinwood.jpg)
The row of rounded windows in the right front corner of the house line the exterior of the large solarium, which was also undergoing extensive renovation. The steps in front of the solarium are the ones Vicki Winters is seen walking down on the show.
I love this house!
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Thanks for posting those photos Midnite! I was going to put in my vote to see the ballroom earlier yesterday but I got a tad carried away posting and the board flagged me down...I guess I posted my limit (but I have a license ossifer - really I do ;D). That room as pictured would have been a wonderful addition to the show (well, a scaled down, less expensive DC approved version anyway).
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I love this house!
Me too! Thanks so much for posting this, Midnite! I'm borderline obsessed about Seaview Terrace and enjoy seeing any and all pics of it. My dream is to one day visit Newport and have my picture taken there.
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Thank you for the wonderful photos. Midnite! :)
I've always wanted to ask where the front door is. Does it show up in your picture or is it on the other side of the building?
And, for that matter, I assume it's not the real front door we see everyday, since we constantly see them using it. Is it a duplicate of the real one or just a nice door they created for the show?
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CastleBee wrote: That room as pictured would have been a wonderful addition to the show (well, a scaled down, less expensive DC approved version anyway).
Thank you Midnite for the great photo's!! :) What a lovely picture! I agree with CastleBee, it would have been so nice to see this beautiful ballroom in the show. at least once or twice anyway. :)
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Did anyone noticed Peter Bradford's comment today to Naomi Collins that he and Victoria ("Vicki") were hiding "on your property"?
In other words, the cemetery IS on Collins property. And apparently very close to Collinwood (remember Sarah running out of the house directly into the cemetery?).
In "Angelique's Descent," the cemetery is adjacent to Collinwood and the Old House.
I'm trying to remember from the present-day (1970s) storyline if the mausoleum is in the Eagle Hill Cemetery or not. Which cemetery had the mausoleum with Laura Stockbridge Murdoch's tombs?
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Chris_2 wrote:
No, any property on the Collins estate will do, so even Josette's room is available!
Gee, I thought it was only Collinwood! ?!? In that case, I change my vote. It's Josette's room for me! ;)
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Me too! Thanks so much for posting this, Midnite! I'm borderline obsessed about Seaview Terrace and enjoy seeing any and all pics of it. My dream is to one day visit Newport and have my picture taken there.
I have been given a personal invitation to come up and visit the mansion by the current occupant. The school (Salve Regina) is one of our customers.
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I'd want to live in David's room - it seems the most "lived in".
I also like the drawing room - I'd love to pour a glass of brandy with Roger (or Naomi) in there and relax :)
Joe Bardales
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I've always wanted to ask where the front door is. Does it show up in your picture or is it on the other side of the building?
What you see during the voiceovers is actually the back of the house, which faces the ocean. The front of the house is shown in early eps; remember the scene with the taxi, or Roger's mustang pulling around the front drive? I don't have a photo handy that shows more of the front, but took this shot of the portico last year.
(http://members.aol.com/MidniteFMR/CWD2.jpg)
I know you've seen David looking out one of these windows!
And, for that matter, I assume it's not the real front door we see everyday, since we constantly see them using it. Is it a duplicate of the real one or just a nice door they created for the show?
The real doors, seen below, inspired the set doors.
(http://members.aol.com/MidniteFMR/CWD3.jpg)
For the heck of it, and since we hear characters referring to the front gate of Collinwood, here's what it looks like. It was sad to see it in much worse shape than 2 years before. :(
(http://members.aol.com/MidniteFMR/CWD4.jpg)
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For the heck of it, and since we hear characters referring to the front gate of Collinwood, here's what it looks like. It was sad to see it in much worse shape than 2 years before. :(
(http://members.aol.com/MidniteFMR/CWD4.jpg)
You know Salve Regina (sp?) should really consider giving tours of some kind and charging a fee. They could use the money to maintain the mansion and grounds. I'd sure hate to see "Collinwood" crumble to the ground.
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You know Salve Regina (sp?) should really consider giving tours of some kind and charging a fee. They could use the money to maintain the mansion and grounds. I'd sure hate to see "Collinwood" crumble to the ground.
An excellent idea, CastleBee! This property is simply too beautiful to be allowed to just waste away.
And Midnite, thanks for posting those great photos!
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Did anyone noticed Peter Bradford's comment today to Naomi Collins that he and Victoria ("Vicki") were hiding "on your property"?
In other words, the cemetery IS on Collins property. And apparently very close to Collinwood (remember Sarah running out of the house directly into the cemetery?).
In "Angelique's Descent," the cemetery is adjacent to Collinwood and the Old House.
I'm trying to remember from the present-day (1970s) storyline if the mausoleum is in the Eagle Hill Cemetery or not. Which cemetery had the mausoleum with Laura Stockbridge Murdoch's tombs?
Eagle Hill cemetary seems to move around at the convenience of the writers/directors. Sometimes it's so far away you have to drive to it. At other times it seems to be right outside the front door of Collinwood. I believe when the place was first mentioned (Mrs. Johnson tells Willie Loomis about the tombs where Naomi, Joshua and Sarah are buried) it was said to be "a mile away" from Collinwood.
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I have been given a personal invitation to come up and visit the mansion by the current occupant. The school (Salve Regina) is one of our customers.
Are you purposely trying to make me jealous? >:(
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For the heck of it, and since we hear characters referring to the front gate of Collinwood, here's what it looks like. It was sad to see it in much worse shape than 2 years before. :(
Okay, so you've been there too? I'm jealous. Is the house in a state of disrepair? Were you able to go inside? And is it still used for classroom and dorm space by the college? ?!?
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Okay, so you've been there too? I'm jealous. Is the house in a state of disrepair? Were you able to go inside? And is it still used for classroom and dorm space by the college? ?!?
Hi Chris #2
Okay, sorry if I too make you jealous :P
I was there in mid December and was able to go inside and take pictures from inside the foyer. We hit it at a good time, it was a Monday morning, the students were out on Christmas break, and there was a gentleman in there vacuuming the main entryway. As you enter, there is no staircase per se, but there is a beautiful stained glass as you look up to your right. We didn't tour the house (not wanting to overstay our welcome, we were too excited just taking pics of the front door and foyer!), but there was an empty music room straight ahead, that didn't look like much to see.
The day we were there, it was cold, overcast/gloomy, and wet. Perfect Collinwood weather! We too, were saddened of the dilapitated state of the outside of the mansion. Some TLC and that place would be looking great again. I'm willing to bet that a few dozen DS fans, if allowed, could get together and have a huge restoration party there one weekend. Heck, that would certainly save the cost on some of the labor.
Anyway, do make the trip if you can. And no trip to "Collinwood" is complete without a stop at The Black Pearl (aka Blue Whale) at Bannister's Wharf for a cold beer and a bowl of hot clam chowder. I highly recommend it ;)
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Are you purposely trying to make me jealous? >:(
Sorry, if you feel that way... Please see the note in your mail box.
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I have never been to Seaview Terrace "Collinwood", I hope to go there someday. I have gone to the other two mansions that were used in the filming of the Dark Shadows movies. If I ever get there I will also stop at the Black Pearl "Blue Whale", just up the road from Seaview Terrace, also read that Barrister's Wharf (a restaurant called The Moorings) is highly recommended if you love seafood. Sounds like a fun weekend plan. Thanks for displaying the great pics Midnite!
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I'm finally getting a moment to weigh in on my favorite room at Collinwood. So far (and I don't remember if there are more rooms that we'll see in the future), I, too, like the study. It's cozy and warm with the wood paneling and has so many interesting things to look at -- e.g. the weapon collection on the wall (something I'd personally like to have if I ever had a study).
The exterior photos are really interesting to see.
I imagine that the window for the study is a bit further to the left than we can see in the photo of the front entry. I've been trying to picture that in these recent episodes that have taken place in the study.
The window to the study seems to be low to the ground, where anyone could look in; but unlike the Old House, no one ever looks into the study.
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Thank you, Midnite for all of the additional photos. But, still, is there a way to place the main doors in context of the whole building? For example, your first pictue (yesterday) shows a lot of it, including the tower, sort of in the middle. But, on those long shots there's no way to see the close up parts, and I keep wondering where the doors would be! That's one reason I suggested that maybe it's on the other side and can't be indicated in that view at all.
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Thank you, Midnite for all of the additional photos. But, still, is there a way to place the main doors in context of the whole building? For example, your first pictue (yesterday) shows a lot of it, including the tower, sort of in the middle. But, on those long shots there's no way to see the close up parts, and I keep wondering where the doors would be! That's one reason I suggested that maybe it's on the other side and can't be indicated in that view at all.
Josette,
Unless I'm misunderstanding your question, the front entry doors -- the double doors that appear in Midnite's photos (e.g., the one with the small portico) -- are on the opposite side of the house from the view we are usually shown. The view of Collinwood that we normally see (i.e., with the tower somewhat toward the left) is the back side of the house (which faces the ocean).
In our imaginations, at least, this is the side of the house that the drawing room windows look out upon.
If the servants' quarters are "too the left" when you exit the study (as Nathan Forbes directed Victoria when "escorting" her from the premises), then they might be located toward the right end of the house in these photos.
I think we only saw the actual front of the house, including the double doors, a couple of times early on in the B&W episodes shortly after Victoria Winter's arrival.
The window to the study would be somewhat to the left of these double doors.
Vlad
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But, still, is there a way to place the main doors in context of the whole building? For example, your first pictue (yesterday) shows a lot of it, including the tower, sort of in the middle. But, on those long shots there's no way to see the close up parts, and I keep wondering where the doors would be! That's one reason I suggested that maybe it's on the other side and can't be indicated in that view at all.
To see a wide shot of the front of the house, try these:
30th Anniversary DS Almanac, p. 101
Millenium Almanac, p. 211
What you're seeing in these old B & Ws is the opposite corner of the view of the back of the house that you're accustomed to seeing. You can make out the tip of the tower peeking over the roofline in both shots. Those 3 arched stained glass windows to the left of the portico (visible in the Millenium photo) just beyond where Vlad imagines the study would be are over the REAL main interior staircase, which as Karen_#2 explained isn't to the right of the foyer like it is on the Collinwood set, though there are also stained glass windows in the Seaview/Carey foyer as well; just no staircase.
If you don't have either edition of the Almanac, a duplicate of the 1st pic is on this DS website--
http://members.tripod.com/~DouglasHayes/DrkShd.html
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Thank you Vlad and Midnite. From what you said, I figured it was the other side, but I was hoping for an answer relating to the posted picture rather than the view seen in the opening. (Of course, I could have gone back to the tape and checked out which view they show - I normally don't pay that much attention to it!!!). It seemed to me that over time, we've seen different views, so while this one may have been the most common, I assumed the other side must have shown up at some point.
Anyway, I have the Millennium Almanac and then checked out your link to the other one. Really nice!! It's good that the tip of the tower shows up - as it helps to relate the other view to that one. I think the portico was kind of throwing me off, too. I was sure I had seen other views of the building at some point, and just couldn't relate to that. It's particularly nice that the Millennium version has a much closer view of the "other side" with the more normal one immediately underneath so that one can study them together.
Thanks for the info!!
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I think I would like to have the Cottege too. It's set away from the main house, would have some privacy, I loved the fireplace/mantle. It just looks like a cozy place to live. Reminds me of a summer cabin my aunt and uncle used to have at the beach.
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Ah oh, ooooops!
I sent this to the wrong posting! That was a bright thing to do.
I should of shut down my browser when I disconnected from the net then re logged in to the forum. ::)
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3 arched stained glass windows to the left of the portico (visible in the Millenium photo) just beyond where Vlad imagines the study would be are over the REAL main interior staircase, which as Karen_#2 explained isn't to the right of the foyer like it is on the Collinwood set, though there are also stained glass windows in the Seaview/Carey foyer as well; just no staircase.
Where Vlad imagines the study to be located!?! >:(
I can pinpoint precisely where the study is in that photo you've linked us to ;D ... and it is just as I thought, in a cozy little nook, though I admit the stained glass windows just to the left, around the corner, came as a surprise! Now if we can just figure out what part of Collinwood that is ...
:)