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Title: victoria in parallel time?
Post by: michael c on March 05, 2006, 08:52:05 PM
o.k. i know i'm obsessing however...

i've been watching the the first several episodes of 1970 parallel time.it has a very unique feel.

but i can't help thinking it would have been really cool to have gotten alexandra moltke back for this storyline.
since alexandra wanted to play a villinous role yet dan curtis vowed never to cast her as a character other than victoria it could have a perfect opportunity to write the character during this time band as more complex or perhaps even evil.if well done it would have been a win-win situation.

it would have been awsome to see a not-so-nice vicki go head-to-head with angelique...and can you imagine barnabas' reaction to finding her here?!

since alexandra's departure was abrupt and this was only a three month storyline it would have been a cool way to send the character off.perhaps even in this time band she might have found some peace rather than the unfortunate fate she suffered in 'real time'. :(

p.s. i absolutely love p.t. hoffman!i also think p.t. elizabeth,roger and carolyn are very interesting characters as well.it's disappointing that they don't get more screen time.i guess they were mostly off filming the movie.
Title: Re: victoria in parallel time?
Post by: arashi on March 05, 2006, 09:07:02 PM
I totally agree with you. What a wicked treat for the fans that would have been.
Title: Re: victoria in parallel time?
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on March 05, 2006, 09:15:06 PM
i can't help thinking it would have been really cool to have gotten alexandra moltke back for this storyline.
since alexandra wanted to play a villinous role yet dan curtis vowed never to cast her as a character other than victoria it could have a perfect opportunity to write the character during this time band as more complex or perhaps even evil.if well done it would have been a win-win situation.

it would have been awsome to see a not-so-nice vicki go head-to-head with angelique...and can you imagine barnabas' reaction to finding her here?!

I couldn't agree with you more. I've often speculated how wonderful it might have been had they included an evil Vicki or at least a Vicki with a bad attitude in 1970PT. Like you, I think it would have been amazing to see her go head-to-head with Angelique. It also would have been really interesting to see her relationship with Liz, her younger sister Carolyn, and her uncle Roger. (For some reason, I can just see PTVicki being PTRoger's favorite and the two of them being an absolute hoot together.) However, It never dawned on me to consider what effect Vicki's presence in PT would have had on Barnabas. That could have been absolutely fascinating to see. But alas...

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p.s. i absolutely love p.t. hoffman!i also think p.t. elizabeth,roger and carolyn are very interesting characters as well.it's disappointing that they don't get more screen time.i guess they were mostly off filming the movie.

Well, they'll all be back once hoDS wraps and you've got some amazing stuff to look forward to with each of them.
Title: Re: victoria in parallel time?
Post by: Patti Feinberg on March 05, 2006, 09:36:36 PM
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p.s. i absolutely love p.t. hoffman!i also think p.t. elizabeth,roger and carolyn are very interesting characters

What do you think of William Loomis and Carolyn Loomis?

D I V I N E!

Patti
Title: Re: victoria in parallel time?
Post by: Barnabas'sBride on March 05, 2006, 10:26:36 PM
I would have loved to have seen a darker version of Victoria in parallel time. I think I would have enjoyed the PT storyline much more if she had been in it -as it is, I'm not a big fan of it.

Will & Carolyn were the only two PT characters I found interesting.
Title: Re: victoria in parallel time?
Post by: PennyDreadful on March 05, 2006, 11:56:38 PM
That would have been fascinating!  An excellent premise.
Title: Re: victoria in parallel time?
Post by: TNickey2003 on March 06, 2006, 05:27:58 AM
I agree it would have been most intriguing to see a PT Vicki ( played by none other than Alexandra Moltke, the quintessential Vicki ). Also a PT Nicholas Blair. It would have been interesting also to see flashbacks to PT 1967 or PT 1968, and see PT Sam Evans, PT Joe Haskell, PT Jason McGuire, PT Burke Devlin... Conspiciously absent from PT 1970 was Mrs. Johnson/Clarice Blackburn.

BTW the PT 1970 sure racked up one heck of a body count. Most of Collinwood's central characters bumped off: [spoiler]Alexis, Willie, Carolyn, Liz, Roger, Angelique,to name a few (I can't remember if Daniel, David's PT ringer, was killed in PT 1970 or not). Of course Cyrus Longworth and John Yeager also got knocked off.  Poor Roxanne, PT Angelique's downfall, was MIA in Collinwood's conflagration at the end of the storyline.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: victoria in parallel time?
Post by: BuzzH on March 06, 2006, 04:34:26 PM
but i can't help thinking it would have been really cool to have gotten alexandra moltke back for this storyline.
since alexandra wanted to play a villinous role yet dan curtis vowed never to cast her as a character other than victoria it could have a perfect opportunity to write the character during this time band as more complex or perhaps even evil.if well done it would have been a win-win situation.

Totally, totally agree!  Although I have yet to see 1970 PT, I have read the concordance so know the plotline.  It would have been awesome to have an evil, and most important, INTELLIGENT, Vickie!  And to establish that she WAS Liz's daughter would have been the icing on the cake.  I also agree that it would have been fun to see how Barnabas reacted to her.  Wonder if he would have found Roxanne so captivating then, and if so, what a dilemma for him--to have to CHOOSE beteen the two.  ;)
Title: Re: victoria in parallel time?
Post by: Julianka7 on March 06, 2006, 05:03:26 PM
What a good idea :) What if AM played the of part Roxanne?
Title: Re: victoria in parallel time?
Post by: onyx_treasure on March 07, 2006, 01:30:53 AM
What a good idea :) What if AM played the of part Roxanne?

Wow, Julianka7, what an inspired idea :)  It would have made more sense for Barnabas to have feelings right away if she looked like someone he already had deep feelings for.
Title: Re: victoria in parallel time?
Post by: MagnusTrask on March 07, 2006, 05:42:27 AM
So what role would an "opposite" Victoria play in the story?   Does she show up to steal their boy away?     A "debunker" of the supernatural whose plan is really to destroy the Coillinses through witchcraft?     The person the MOST suspicious of Barnabas?    A holy roller, the real "Trask" of PT?
Title: Re: victoria in parallel time?
Post by: Shadowsfan on March 07, 2006, 06:04:59 AM
I would have loved seeing Quentin in PT married to Victoria Winters .   Could you just imagine Barnabas' face as Quentin introduced his new wife Victoria to his cousin? 
Title: Re: victoria in parallel time?
Post by: michael c on March 11, 2006, 07:12:18 PM
just another thought.

since the main cast was away filming the movie for much of the storyline it would have been a great opportunity to bring back diana millay.perhaps in this time band she wasn't a pheonix but some other type of character.i want to see more of the familiar characters here.

i realize why this wasn't possible but i think it would have been way cooler to focus this storyline on the "parallel" versions of the main cast.they introduce us to potentially very interesting variations on liz,roger,carolyn and willie and then we see very little of them and the story focuses on "b-team" players like cyrus,sabrina and bruno(the cyrus/yeager plot is a dud for me.i do like buffy harrington however).

i know that characters like liz,roger and carolyn return later on but they still only appear in less than twenty episodes of this storyline and that ain't enough.

that said the angelique/alexis stuff is cool and it's great that david selby and lara parker get to do some great work here.
Title: Re: victoria in parallel time?
Post by: BuzzH on March 13, 2006, 08:53:05 PM
just another thought.

since the main cast was away filming the movie for much of the storyline it would have been a great opportunity to bring back diana millay.perhaps in this time band she wasn't a pheonix but some other type of character.

That would have been cool, to see a NICE, normal Laura.  I think PT was a wasted opportunity unfortunately.  I too realize that the core cast was up in Tarrytown filming HODS, but still...I wish they'd done PT before filming on HODS began and we could have seen not only the core cast more, but had several charactors brought back (Joe, Sam, Burke, Vickie etc...) just to see how they'd be different in PT.   It's a shame really.  :'(
Title: Re: victoria in parallel time?
Post by: Barnabas'sBride on March 13, 2006, 09:16:12 PM
I think PT was a wasted opportunity unfortunately. 

That's how I feel about it too. I don't think they put enough thought into it, IMHO. Like you, I wish they had waited until the core cast was available.

I'm not too fond of Parallel time and I've always been more interested in the real time characters, but if they had used PT as an opportunity to let  the underused (by then) core cast shine and bring back some old favorites, I would have enjoyed it more.
Title: Re: victoria in parallel time?
Post by: BuzzH on March 14, 2006, 01:59:22 AM
I'm not too fond of Parallel time and I've always been more interested in the real time characters, but if they had used PT as an opportunity to let  the underused (by then) core cast shine and bring back some old favorites, I would have enjoyed it more.

I think the perfect time for PT would have been right after the Dream Curse storyline and BEFORE all that Adam nonsense--worst plotline ever that Adam/Eve one.  In fact, they could have skipped that whole Adam/Eve plotline as far as I'm concerned.  Made me want to puke.   [repuke]

Now that I've suffered through it on DVD, I'll never watch it again.
Title: Re: victoria in parallel time?
Post by: MagnusTrask on March 14, 2006, 06:36:18 AM
They should have come up with new plots or at least diverged far more from the basic plots for Jeckyl and Hyde, and Rebecca.    For Rebecca, there should have been surprising twists specifically meant for people who knew the Hitchcock film.     I mean, going against expectations by having something very different happen up in that room where [spoiler]Hoffman's trying to get Maggie to jump.[/spoiler]And perhaps Hyde's really the "good" one, maybe because it's PT...  
Title: Re: victoria in parallel time?
Post by: Uncle Roger on January 11, 2012, 08:26:37 AM
Was the character of Maggie's sister Jennifer intended for Marie Wallace? If not, that could have made an interesting part for Alexandra. It would also have posed some interesting questions about the RT Vicki's origins