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Title: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: PennyDreadful on February 09, 2006, 07:42:12 PM
So, what was the story with this?  I remember hearing Sci-Fi Channel did a documentary about DS that got nixed.  Is this documentary available anywhere?  I'd really like to see a copy of it.

Thanks,
Penny Dreadful
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: BuzzH on February 09, 2006, 08:26:46 PM
So, what was the story with this?  I remember hearing Sci-Fi Channel did a documentary about DS that got nixed.  Is this documentary available anywhere?  I'd really like to see a copy of it.

I think it's safe to say that that thing ain't seein' the light of day!  They showed it at the last Fest at the World Trade Center and it upset several cast members and they walked out even.  Then the Fest announced no more Fests and ppl began to think this was the reason.  I wasn't there, unfortunately as I *too* would give my eye teeth to see it, but friends who were said the cast members that walked out were furious about it being shown.   >:(
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: PennyDreadful on February 09, 2006, 09:00:10 PM
Wow.  What was it that caused such a reaction?  Was the documentary disrespectful in some way?
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: Gothick on February 09, 2006, 09:06:42 PM
Hey Penny Dreadful, I honestly don't recall the details, but what I do remember is that a lot of gossip was bandied about (which per Board regulations can't be discussed here, but perhaps someone will fill you in via PM).  I had a bad feeling about that thing from the get-go, and I know some fans who participated in it in good faith--it really left a BAD taste in everybody's mouth.

It all reminds me of this time at one of the old DS convocations when Joan Bennett was still living.  Joan was sitting on stage when KLS was taking a starry-eyed trip down memory lane about what a wonderful place DS to work and what a warm, caring, family feeling there was amongst cast and crew. Apparently, Joan gave one of her famous sharp looks, raised an eyebrow and said "WHAT show did you say you were on again, Dear?"  LOVE to have seen that...

G.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: mfmdpt on February 09, 2006, 09:28:10 PM
I think it's safe to say that that thing ain't seein' the light of day!

As someone who took part it, I hope they burned every copy, every outtake, and anything and everything having to do with it.  >:(  However, that being said, the outtake footage from the questions I refused to answer and what I told them I thought about those questions might be pretty funny to see.  [laughing11]  But something tells me they definitely destroyed that stuff.  ;)
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 09, 2006, 09:28:41 PM
They showed it at the last Fest at the World Trade Center

Actually, it was at the 2002 Anaheim, CA Fest.  :)

I honestly don't recall the details, but what I do remember is that a lot of gossip was bandied about (which per Board regulations can't be discussed here

There's a topic on the forum in which the documentary is discussed. Check out:

... After a touching tribute to the WTC offered by Jim Pierson <sniff>, the Sciography documentary, originally scheduled to be shown the previous evening, aired. ...

Be sure to browse through from Midnite's post onward because the subject of the documentary pops up on a few different pages in the topic.  :)
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: Nancy on February 09, 2006, 09:32:45 PM
The people involved with the documentary (DS people) told me that the producer of the documentary set out to do a TRUE STORY type of thing leaving "truth" out of it.  It was a very trashy, tabloid type of production and I was told that an edited version was what was ultimately shown at the fest a few years ago.  Even the edited version upset some of the actors who felt speculation, hearsay and half-truths were given more time than should have been given.  I understand that the reason for showing the piece was so fans could get an idea of the direction producers wanted to go and hence why the documentary was not completed.  Jonathan Frid didn't want to be interviewed for it so he was one of those trashed in the piece and the producer admitted as much that was why he was doing what he was doing.  That kind of attitude doesn't exactly lend hope the documentary is going to be informative or enlightening.

While every show supposedly has its tasty morsels of gossip and scandal, DS was one of the few that simply didn't have much in the way of scandal and trash to sell about the cast or crew.  The material in the documentary was stuff that was greatly embellished and stretched beyond the limit which is why the actors who were upset expressed their displeasure that any of it was shown.

SciFi was upset about how the whole thing was handled because it knew that fans would be upset about the speculation and half-truths presented in a tabloid manner, not upset that actors, cast and crew were not perfect people.  I understand that the producers behind the documentary were also cut out of several other projects they were due to be a part of because of their "take" on the DS documentary.

nancy

Wow.  What was it that caused such a reaction?  Was the documentary disrespectful in some way?
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: BuzzH on February 09, 2006, 09:55:19 PM
It all reminds me of this time at one of the old DS convocations when Joan Bennett was still living.  Joan was sitting on stage when KLS was taking a starry-eyed trip down memory lane about what a wonderful place DS to work and what a warm, caring, family feeling there was amongst cast and crew. Apparently, Joan gave one of her famous sharp looks, raised an eyebrow and said "WHAT show did you say you were on again, Dear?"  LOVE to have seen that...

Reminds me of the recent Fest in Hollywood.  Johnny Karlen and KLS were on stage and someone asked them if they thought Jonathan would ever come back to the Fests, in particular would he show up for the 40th this summer.  KLS started out by saying something like, "Um, well, I haven't spoken to Jonathan in awhile, but I think we might be able to persuade him.  Sure, why not!" and Karlen said into the mic, "Johnny ain't comin'!" to which the audience roared w/laughter.

I call KLS the "Mary Richards" of DS fandom because she really is pollyanna-ish when it comes to things, at least onstage, LOL!   ;D
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: BuzzH on February 09, 2006, 09:57:42 PM
Actually, it was at the 2002 Anaheim, CA Fest.  :)

Oops, my bad!   :-[
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: MsCriseyde on February 09, 2006, 10:23:56 PM
Reminds me of the recent Fest in Hollywood.  Johnny Karlen and KLS were on stage and someone asked them if they thought Jonathan would ever come back to the Fests, in particular would he show up for the 40th this summer.  KLS started out by saying something like, "Um, well, I haven't spoken to Jonathan in awhile, but I think we might be able to persuade him.  Sure, why not!" and Karlen said into the mic, "Johnny ain't comin'!" to which the audience roared w/laughter.
That wasn't the only time he decided to have some fun at her expense. She made some remark about the location being great, and he responded with something along the lines of: "There she goes again. Miss Everything Is So Nice. I'm so nice. Good God, woman!"  ;D
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: PennyDreadful on February 09, 2006, 11:12:39 PM
Wow, the "documentary" sounds really awful.  Glad they didn't air it.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: Nancy on February 09, 2006, 11:35:46 PM
That's so funny.  KLS hasn't spoken with JF in ten years. ::)

If fans want JF to come, they can write to him via his website in the Visitor's Corner.  It would help too mentioning something about the site to ensure the webmaster passes the note on to him.

Nancy
http://www.nancykersey.blogspot.com

Reminds me of the recent Fest in Hollywood.  Johnny Karlen and KLS were on stage and someone asked them if they thought Jonathan would ever come back to the Fests, in particular would he show up for the 40th this summer.  KLS started out by saying something like, "Um, well, I haven't spoken to Jonathan in awhile, but I think we might be able to persuade him.  Sure, why not!" and Karlen said into the mic, "Johnny ain't comin'!" to which the audience roared w/laughter.

I call KLS the "Mary Richards" of DS fandom because she really is pollyanna-ish when it comes to things, at least onstage, LOL!   ;D
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: Nancy on February 09, 2006, 11:42:32 PM
That wasn't the only time he decided to have some fun at her expense. She made some remark about the location being great, and he responded with something along the lines of: "There she goes again. Miss Everything Is So Nice. I'm so nice. Good God, woman!"  ;D

 [headbang]  Oh yeah!  That is hilarious!

My theory as to the number one reason certain actors want JF to come to the festival so badly:  he brings in people who will hopefully buy products being sold by some actors.   The dealers have often said JF is the number one draw at the fests and when he comes, so does the money. 

I have witnessed (and so have others attending the fests) that when JF comes, it's like the other performers don't exist anymore.  During a Q&A most questions go to JF even though he tries to deflect them so other actors can be involved.   How thrilling can that be for the other people who were just as important to the fans and the show?  Not very.

Of course this was not discussed in the documentary. >:D

Nancy
http://www.nancykersey.blogspot.com

Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: Raineypark on February 09, 2006, 11:54:08 PM
I'd be thrilled to have Mr. Frid at the next Fest.

That way, while everyone else was in the largest available room, listening to HIM, I could be sitting with John Karlen, asking him about his early performances on the New York stage..... :D
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: Midnite on February 10, 2006, 12:16:30 AM
Heh heh, Rainey!

it upset several cast members and they walked out even. ... friends who were said the cast members that walked out were furious about it being shown.

Well, two cast members walked out:  Marie Wallace and KLS.  KLS has said that John Karlen did too, but did anyone see him walk out?  I didn't notice him leaving his seat.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: Darren Gross on February 10, 2006, 12:51:30 AM
The one Mfmdpt is referring to is a different doc., though one I haven't seen.

They made two shows- one focusing on the fans ala: Trekkies for DS fans, and the other was a 'behind the scenes on the phenomenon' show.

Now, the behind the scenes doc originated as something with more integrity, at least, how I saw it evolve. I was interviewed twice, several months apart, and the first time they were the usual, very positive questions. The second time, it really felt like they were trying to get as many 'edgy' and controversial comments as possible. In fact, several times, I felt they were trying to steer me into a kind of performance which I now realize was meant to put Dan Curtis in a bad light and make me come off like an obsessed loser. I have a feeling they were going to use that latter kind of material in the other 'Trekkies-'-esque doc.

In the time between the shows, from what I recall, Sci-fi rejected the assembly or rough edit of that proposed show. At the time I think there was a making of classic series idea being worked on, and they dropped it after an episode or two.  A couple of new producers were brought in to supervise the program, do new interviews and steer it towards something more nasty and tabloid-oriented.

It was a nasty piece of junk...and I wish all that footage from my session was trashed, though since the master tapes were retained by the third party production company, I'm sure they still exist.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: mfmdpt on February 10, 2006, 02:18:04 AM
The one Mfmdpt is referring to is a different doc., though one I haven't seen.

They made two shows- one focusing on the fans ala: Trekkies for DS fans, and the other was a 'behind the scenes on the phenomenon' show.

OK - now I'm getting confused. The show I was referring to was the Sciography program that was shown during the 2002 banquet. Wasn't the documentary that contained your restoration segment and my Seaview segment the Sciography program? I thought the program about the DS fans was called Sci-Luv and that was the one that was shown on Friday at the 2002 Fest? I haven't seen either. I've only gotten reports from friends who saw them. And that's been more than enough.  ::)

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The second time, it really felt like they were trying to get as many 'edgy' and controversial comments as possible. In fact, several times, I felt they were trying to steer me into a kind of performance which I now realize was meant to put Dan Curtis in a bad light and make me come off like an obsessed loser. I have a feeling they were going to use that latter kind of material in the other 'Trekkies-'-esque doc.

I agree. My experience was that executive producer Andy Schatzberg, who conducted the questioning off camera from an actual script that he'd written, certainly tried his best to steer me into a performance and that he was searching for edgy or even ludicrous comments. Or at least comments that would have made me look ludicrous. But I didn't let him get away with it.

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At the time I think there was a making of classic series idea being worked on, and they dropped it after an episode or two.   A couple of new producers were brought in to supervise the program, do new interviews and steer it towards something more nasty and tabloid-oriented.

There was. The SciFi Channel aired a show about the original Battlestar Galactica, but a follow-up about Babylon 5 got shelved.  As I recall it, Schatzberg wasn't involved in the Battlestar Galactica show, though I could swear he'd said he had been in the one about Babylon 5. But he definitely said that the DS Sciography program was intended as a pilot for a new series on SciFi. Obviously that series never manifested, which is defintely for the best.

And if the stories Schatzberg told me about how they had ambushed Anne Rice with the 1970PT tape and how they intended to reference the von Bulow incident are any indications, I'd say "nasty and tabloid-oriented" was definitely a part of their mission statement for the show.  [sad3]

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It was a nasty piece of junk...

Exactly my feeling.

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and I wish all that footage from my session was trashed, though since the master tapes were retained by the third party production company, I'm sure they still exist.

OMG - do you mean footage of my rant might really still exist? If only that could show up somewhere someday. Not because of my part in it, but because his responses to me that would be heard off camera would leave little doubt as to what Schatzberg was mostly about.  ::)
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: ProfStokes on February 10, 2006, 02:46:55 AM
The DS documentary was especially disappointing to me because I saw the debut episode of "Sciography" in August, 2000 and enjoyed it very much.  It was about another of my favorite shows, "Quantum Leap", and unlike what we saw at the Fest, this show was very informative and respectful.  It featured interviews with the actors, producers, and writers, video footage from a QL convention, and a chronology of the series.  Potentially touchy issues were glossed over.  It was a very pro-fan and pro-show program, not trashy at all.  IIRC, the next episode set to air was "Battlestar Galactica", and then DS, but I don't even know if the BSG Sciography ever did turn up.

Mainly, the problem with the DS Sciography was that it focused too much on certain actors' substance abuse problems (things that are common knowledge among fans but that don't really need to be spotlighted) rather than discussing the merits of the show itself.  However, the people who were reflecting on these incidents in the interviews were actors who were not even working on DS at the same time as the actors they were talking about, so obviously what they were saying was hearsay.  Other events were exaggerated or outright falsified (a rivalry between Frid and Selby that never really happened except in the minds of teen magazine publishers).  Also, the program was filled with inaccuracies in spelling ("Laura Parker" instead of "Lara Parker") and actor-character portrayals (Roger Davis played Roger Collins?) If the makers of this 'documentary' couldn't even go to the trouble of spelling an actress's name properly or correctly crediting an actor, how could we possibly be expected to believe that the rest of their information was accurate?  

I heard that the original Sciography producer who was responsible for the QL episode had moved on to other projects and that his replacement took the series in the direction of an expose.  I don't know if there's any truth to this, but I can easily believe it since the tone of the two episodes was so different.

ProfStokes
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: Midnite on February 10, 2006, 03:27:44 AM
The DS documentary was especially disappointing to me because I saw the debut episode of "Sciography" in August, 2000 and enjoyed it very much.  It was about another of my favorite shows, "Quantum Leap", and unlike what we saw at the Fest, this show was very informative and respectful.  It featured interviews with the actors, producers, and writers, video footage from a QL convention, and a chronology of the series.  Potentially touchy issues were glossed over.  It was a very pro-fan and pro-show program, not trashy at all.  IIRC, the next episode set to air was "Battlestar Galactica", and then DS, but I don't even know if the BSG Sciography ever did turn up.

The Battlestar Gallactica installment aired a month before Quantum Leap's in July, 2000; I only saw the former and didn't have a problem with it.  Babylon 5's was scheduled for September 2000 with the DS installment in line to air 4th, but neither of these two made it to airtime.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 10, 2006, 04:16:10 AM
It's interesting that Sci-Fi ran two respectful Sciography installments, decided that didn't work, hired new producers, shelved both their attempts - with at least the DS one having turned out mostly trashy, and then canceled the series outright. Sort of makes one wonder what the hell type of concept was Sci-Fi looking for?  :-   A middle ground of respectful trash would certainly be an oxymoron.  ::)

I'm sure we can all agree, though, that we're really glad that the DS installment never aired...
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: michael c on February 10, 2006, 05:22:00 AM
a couple of years ago(before i was a member of this board)i attended a party at the upstate n.y. home of artist rob pruitt(the house itself something straight out of d.s.)where they were supposed to air a documentary about the show.there were several fans there(besides alot of hipsters drinking beer)but unfortunately the person who supposedly had a tape of this documentary never showed up.

i don't know if this was a copy of the documentary under discussion here.

but please,we are all going on the same gossip.yes,a certain actress had an affair with a certain married,rich and soon-to-be-accused-of-his-wife's-attempted-murder man.yes,a ceratin actor left the show during a period of alcoholism.yes,another actors' death frequently gets called into question.

but what's with all the scandal and secrecy?where is all the drama here really coming from? ::)
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: Nancy on February 10, 2006, 05:24:57 AM
MB, I don't know who produced the first two documentaries for SciFi (they hired an outside production company for the DS documentary).  The taping started out quite well but then the producer got wind of some gossip and went for that, stretching it every which way possible and then was really p.o.'d when a major member of the cast didn't want to be in it at all.  The latter I witnessed first-hand.  The producer then decided to go in the more tabloid direction.   Too bad the entire experience seemed to make SciFi want to not participate anymore.  I don't know why they simply didn't hire someone else to produce the documentary.  

Nancy
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: Nancy on February 10, 2006, 05:34:52 AM
Sure, there's backstage drama on every show since the actors, like everyone else, have personal lives to live and that can creep into professional work as well.  However, the issue with the documentary was that it was going on half-truths and gossip, not fact which is not what the documentary was commissioned to be about.   It's a matter of public record about some husband problems Joan Bennett had and Alexandra Moltke's involvement in the Van Bulow case.  That's nothing new.  I saw unedited parts of the documentary and what was objectionable were statements made about individuals that were not a matter of public record or even know to be a fact. That was one reason some of the actors reacted the way they did.  It concerned some of their friends from the show.

I know from an associate with SciFi is that such a documentary would not thrill most DS fans but turn them off SciFi for airing an obvious tabloid piece.  Then there is potential legal action for making statements that are not true publicly.  There are always people who get off on that type of thing but by and large, the DS audience is not to thrive on a tabloid presentation of its show.  From a producer's standpoint who knows the audience, I would never present such a documentary to the DS audience.   The reaction would not be favorable. 

DS fans tend to respect the actors, their private lives and dislike anyone trashing the show or the performers on any level, particularly on unsubstantiated gossip. DS is relatively small fandom but nonetheless a devoted one.  DS fandom is very different from other fandoms in many respects and one of those differences is that fans in general are not looking for dirt.  They like hearing about the fun things that go wrong and that sort of thing but not trash.  At least this has been my observation over the years. 

The scandal of the DS documentary is that the producers wanted to air material that was not substantiated just for the sake of shock. 

Nancy

but what's with all the scandal and secrecy?where is all the drama here really coming from? ::)
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: Nancy on February 10, 2006, 05:46:02 AM
Mainly, the problem with the DS Sciography was that it focused too much on certain actors' substance abuse problems (things that are common knowledge among fans but that don't really need to be spotlighted) rather than discussing the merits of the show itself.

Yes, I thought that was very disappointing too that the documentary was not about the creation and evolution of DS then and over the years.

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However, the people who were reflecting on these incidents in the interviews were actors who were not even working on DS at the same time as the actors they were talking about, so obviously what they were saying was hearsay.

Exactly.  And actionable in a court of law which is the last thing SciFi or anyone else would have wanted.

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 Other events were exaggerated or outright falsified (a rivalry between Frid and Selby that never really happened except in the minds of teen magazine publishers).  Also, the program was filled with inaccuracies in spelling ("Laura Parker" instead of "Lara Parker") and actor-character portrayals (Roger Davis played Roger Collins?) If the makers of this 'documentary' couldn't even go to the trouble of spelling an actress's name properly or correctly crediting an actor, how could we possibly be expected to believe that the rest of their information was accurate?  

I can tell you this much - I was the person who was approached numerous times by the SciFi producer about getting Frid to participate and when Frid declined, the producer was angry and became threatening not only to me but others associated with the project.  The producer actually threatened to take the documentary in a tabloid direction in that one instance.  Lord knows what other instances stoked the fire along the way.

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I heard that the original Sciography producer who was responsible for the QL episode had moved on to other projects and that his replacement took the series in the direction of an expose.  I don't know if there's any truth to this, but I can easily believe it since the tone of the two episodes was so different.

I heard that too, Prof. Stokes.  That's why I believe the producer hired to do the DS documentary was not involved in the first two documentaries SciFi made.

Nancy
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: Darren Gross on February 10, 2006, 06:00:37 AM
Hmmm. You might be right there, Mike. I've never seen the Sci-Luv doc and wasn't present at the Fest screening. I had seen a tape of the Sciography ep. a couple of months before, but I don't remember your segment being in it, so I assumed it was in the Sci-Luv one...

I'm told that the one aired at the fest was edited down from the appalling one that I saw, or at least that was going to be the plan and they didn't get a chance to do it.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: Mary on February 10, 2006, 10:01:59 AM
Well, two cast members walked out: Marie Wallace and KLS. KLS has said that John Karlen did too, but did anyone see him walk out? I didn't notice him leaving his seat.

I was fortunate enough to find myself seated at the same table as John Karlen (an entertaining experience which I hightly reccomend!  LOL!) at that particular banquet, and he hung around longer than Marie Wallace and KLS (and at one point during the screening emphatically stated "Bulls---!"), but by the end of the screening he was gone.  I don't know exactly when he left because I was turned around in my seat facing the screen and he was behind me, but when I turned back around at the end he was already gone.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: Gerard on February 10, 2006, 11:41:44 AM
From what I've read here, what really is scandalous is how the producers of this thing tried to make the actors and actresses seem scandalous when obviously there was nothing to scandalize.  From reading memories, such as those written by The Lovely and Talented Kathryn Leigh Scott, while some of the performers were already long-established thespians (such as Joan Bennett, Thayer David and Grayson Hall), many were just new to the industry and struggled every day to make a living.  It was a job, and after a day of shooting, they headed out onto the streets of Manhattan to go home, maybe having to stop at a food store first, or pick up their dry cleaning, and then do all the mundane things of life, attempting to make ends meet and get stuff done.  I'm picturing someone like TLATKLS or Kate Jackson sitting in a laundramat, mulling over a script, a handful of coins in the pocket, while filled washers and dryers are tumbling nearby, or David Selby or Joel Crothers hammering away at a backed-up radiator in their apartment trying to get the heat to kick in.  In-between that, they're doing other dramatic jobs to further their careers, or otherwise just trying to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table.  Just when were they suppose to find the time or money to party all night, take drugs, have salacious affairs or participate in in-crew battles?  Good that this "documentary" ended up going nowhere.

Gerard
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: Nancy on February 10, 2006, 06:50:29 PM
I've been able to hear many stories about behind the scenes goings-on from actors on the show and even for that day, there was not anything particularly scandalous - maybe a little sad, some personal situations, but that's the extent of it.  You'd be hard pressed to point to anything overtly scandalous even by the standards of that day, let alone this area.

Nancy

From what I've read here, what really is scandalous is how the producers of this thing tried to make the actors and actresses seem scandalous when obviously there was nothing to scandalize. 
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 10, 2006, 09:11:57 PM
Just as a clarification for anyone who might not have checked out the link to the topic from '02 (and to show that the program wasn't entirely trashy):

... the Sciography documentary, originally scheduled to be shown the previous evening, aired.  Let me begin by bringing up what was good about it-- Michael Miozza's Seaview segment was fantastic, as was Christine Domaniecki's interview-- she's very pretty, and discussed winning a role on DS, an experience she said led to the happiest day of her life, and Darren's restoration piece was also very well done. ...

 [b003]

And BTW, for those who might not remember, Christine Domaniecki won the Miss American Vampire promotional contest for hoDS and she appeared in Ep #1126 as a barmaid:

(http://www.dsboards.com/images/barmaid.jpg)
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: Connie on February 10, 2006, 11:08:40 PM
Oh scandal, schmandal.
 
The real story is here:

The Globe (http://towerroom.net/pictures/theglobe.jpg)

 ;)
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: Gothick on February 10, 2006, 11:51:10 PM
Connie, you're a genius!!!

in adoration,

Steve
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: Heather on February 11, 2006, 01:34:57 AM
Connie, you adorable thing you...you rock! Omg...LMAO   >:D  ;D    :-* :-*

luv,

Heather
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: ClaudeNorth on February 11, 2006, 01:35:54 AM
Yes, Connie, that was terrific.
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: PennyDreadful on February 11, 2006, 02:49:16 AM
LMAO Connie!  The RD "quote" is friggin' hilarious!
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: BuzzH on February 14, 2006, 03:26:16 PM
*TOO* funny! I especially love the one about RD loving his hair!   [laughing4] [laughing7] [stfl]
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: BuzzH on February 15, 2006, 03:35:43 PM
*TOO* funny! I especially love the one about RD loving his hair!   [laughing4] [laughing7] [stfl]

Okay, just looked at the gag again, and while I *do* still love the RD quote, I'm changing my favorite to David's quote about the banana cake!  I just CRACK UP every time I look at that!  ;)
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: Misa on February 18, 2006, 08:51:02 PM
Connie this is great! Did you make the mockup yourself?

Very funny.


Misa
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: Connie on February 19, 2006, 07:06:11 AM
 [blshg]
Yep.....made it mahself.  (A few years ago)

[nut]
Title: Re: Sci-Fi Channel Documentary
Post by: MaineGirl on April 04, 2006, 10:08:39 PM
it upset several cast members and they walked out even. ... friends who were said the cast members that walked out were furious about it being shown.
Well, two cast members walked out:  Marie Wallace and KLS.  KLS has said that John Karlen did too, but did anyone see him walk out?  I didn't notice him leaving his seat.

Mr. Karlen left almost as soon as the documentary began, perhaps even before. He left because he had a horrible headache (he said), and couldn't sit it out any longer. I always get the feeling that he typically doesn't enjoy the media presentations that come after the banquet (he'd rather be talking and interacting with real live people), but that night, he really looked like he wasn't feeling good. So yes, KLS is right in that Mr. Karlen left, but he didn't leave because of the documentary, he left in spite of it, so to speak.

Maine Girl