DARK SHADOWS FORUMS
General Discussions => Current Talk Archive => Current Talk '25 I => Current Talk '02 I => Topic started by: VAM on April 16, 2002, 02:36:20 AM
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Midnite I decided to go with your idea. From which of the following individuals would you feel comfortable seeking legal advice?
Frank Garner
Richard Garner
Evan Hanley
Charles Dawson
Peter Bradford
Barnabas Collins (short stint in 1840)
Rev. Trask
Garth Blackwood (who sought justice with his own hands)
James Blair
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Where's Tony Peterson? He's the only one that I would let represent me. :)
Bette
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Midnite I decided to go with your idea. From which of the following individuals would you feel comfortable seeking legal advice?
Frank Garner
Richard Garner
Evan Hanley
Charles Dawson
Peter Bradford
Barnabas Collins (short stint in 1840)
Rev. Trask
Garth Blackwood (who sought justice with his own hands)
James Blair
Who is James Blair? I agree with Bette - Tony Peterson is the only trustworthy lawyer in any time line - unless he's still under Cassandra's power.
Wouldn't want Richard Garner - he lied to Vicki when she asked him about B. Hanscomb. Wouldn't want his son Frank either - in all the time he dated Vicki he never dug up one solid lead to her identity.
Evan Hanley/Charles Dawson could only be trusted if you're in league with the Devil as well as they are and your interests serve theirs.
Peter Bradford got Victoria hung, didn't he? Reverend Trask is a no-go unless I want to prosecute some innocent person. Don't really think Garth Blackwood was a lawyer. Barnabas could only represent me in Night Court. 8)
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Why didn't you include Tony Peterson? :)
No matter, I'm adding him to my list and tossing off Blackwood--psycho vigilantes are not to my taste and James Blair--who was a banker, not a lawyer.
My picks:
1. Tony Peterson: dedicated, intelligent, up for a challenge, not easily intimidated, and good looking to boot. He would be my first choice.
2. Richard Garner: would prefer pĬre to fils. If we could get the loyalty issues out of the way, he seemed quite competent, discreet, etc.
3. Frank Garner: if I couldn't get Richard, I'd settle for Frank
4. Evan Hanley: I share Edith's opinion of him; he's a shyster, but if desperate, I suppose he would do.
5. Charles Dawson: I would have to be in jail and unable to find any other attorneys.
You have to be kidding me--I would be better off representing myself:
Rev. Trask
Peter Bradford
Barnabas Collins
Luciaphil
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Who is James Blair? I agree with Bette - Tony Peterson is the only trustworthy lawyer in any time line - unless he's still under Cassandra's power.
James Blair was Burke Devlin's banker/financial advisor and wasn't a lawyer.
Luciaphil
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What about Desmond Collins? I thought he did fairly well at Quentin's trial and may have won the case but for the matter of Leticia's testimony.
Otherwise, I suppose I would settle for the Garners: first Richard, then Frank, since Garner, Sr. seems to have more experience with the law (hey, he kept Roger out of prison and provided Liz with a speedy divorce.)
ProfStokes
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1. Tony Peterson: dedicated, intelligent, up for a challenge, not easily intimidated, and good looking to boot. He would be my first choice.
Im with you Luciaphil, Tony Peterson would be the one for me. Also Prof. Stokes bought up a good point regarding Desmond Collins, he was good lawyer as well.
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Why didn't you include Tony Peterson? :)
No matter, I'm adding him to my list and tossing off Blackwood--psycho vigilantes are not to my taste and James Blair--who was a banker, not a lawyer.
Luciaphil
Hey, it is my post and I can put in a horseshoe curve if I like to get the conversation going.... ::)No one has mentioned Briscoe's Chris Collins... ;)
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Hey, it is my post and I can put in a horseshoe curve if I like to get the conversation going.... ::)No one has mentioned Briscoe's Chris Collins... ;)
hey Vam
as soon as i saw this post i thought
Chris Collins and Tony Peterson so did you leave them out for a reason ? wouldn't have picked any of the others! The worst was Peter Bradford! also loved when Barnabas tried I know you can represent yourself in a trial but can you represent others without being a lawyer?
jennifer
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hey Vam
as soon as i saw this post i thought
Chris Collins and Tony Peterson so did you leave them out for a reason ?
jennifer
Kinda new those two would be popular and I wanted to hear what everyone had to say about the others listed especially the Master of Dartmoor ;)Luciaphil just loves him ::)
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Charles Dawson cuz he's just, so cool!
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I'd choose Frank Garner, just for the excuse to take him out to dinner, get him lightly toasted and try to have my way with him. What a honey!
I don't think one could be optimistic about encounters with the law in DS-land, given how loopy all those trials are!
Steve
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Even though he's not on the list, I have to go with Tony Peterson. He seems the most competent and professional, someone who couldn't be bought off.
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Even though he's not on the list, I have to go with Tony Peterson. He seems the most competent and professional, someone who couldn't be bought off.
I don't know about that...Cassandra seemed to influence and have her way with him ;)
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I don't know about that...Cassandra seemed to influence and have her way with him ;)
You're right Vam, I had completely forgotten about Tony and Cassandra! But wasn't she controlling him by supernatural means? If so, I don't think you can hold his actions against him.
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Tony Peterson, absolutely! Competent, honest, fair, handsome, maybe we could check out his briefs when things get dull. . .
Where were we?
Frank Garner was cute, and seemed competent, too, but I guess I'd go with his daddy for the best lawyer of the two, more experience.
Bradford--I'd hang MYSELF before hiring him! Might as well get it over with, right?
SPOILER --
I thought Barnabas did an OK job as Quentin's fill-in lawyer in 1840, and he looked mighty fine in the outfit he showed up in that first day in court--after Trask walled him up, yet!
Desmond was nice, too, and gamely did his best.
Love, Robin
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You're right Vam, I had completely forgotten about Tony and Cassandra! But wasn't she controlling him by supernatural means? If so, I don't think you can hold his actions against him.
Considering the womanizer that Tony seemed to be, it would not have mattered one way or the other.
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Considering the womanizer that Tony seemed to be, it would not have mattered one way or the other.
Curious, why do you think Tony was a womanizer?
Luciaphil
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The two lawyers who made the best impression on me are Tony Peterson and Desmond Collins. Tony is smart, no-nonsense and principled, gruff on the outside, yet there's an apparent compassion underneath the surface. Desmond's courtroom performance was competent, aggressive, and fair. I wouldn't mind being involved in a case with either of them, either as an opponent or as fellow attorney on the same side. Nor would I mind having either of them represent me (in their unpossessed states, of course).
I also like Frank Garner, although I don't think I got to see him perform in court. He may not even be a trial lawyer, especially if he specializes in wills and other transactional-type matters (most lawyers are not trial lawyers). He seemed like the most "normal" character on DS (only on DS can somebody who's normal be odd) -- not unlike some of my lawyer-buddies whom I run into at the courthouse or get together with for an after-work beer.
Evan Hanley and Charles Dawson give our profession a bad rap. I especially cringe whenever I see Dawson grandstanding so righteously in court. I just wanna yell at the TV screen, "Oh, put a sock in it!"
And if I hung around Peter Bradford long enough, I'd probably go deaf.
Ben
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A tailor-made topic for you to weigh in on, Ben. ;D
The two lawyers who made the best impression on me are Tony Peterson and Desmond Collins.
Desmond Collins! My favorite among John Karlen's many and varied characters!
I know this isn't going to work, but:
"Ben wrote:"
I also like Frank Garner, although I don't think I got to see him perform in court. He may not even be a trial lawyer, especially if he specializes in wills and other transactional-type matters (most lawyers are not trial lawyers). He seemed like the most "normal" character on DS (only on DS can somebody who's normal be odd) -- not unlike some of my lawyer-buddies whom I run into at the courthouse or get together with for an after-work beer.
And if I hung around Peter Bradford long enough, I'd probably go deaf.
Ouch! You said it! I wonder how much more pleasant - sorry, I mean different - our viewing might have been if the actor who played Frank Garner had taken on the role(s) played by the Peter Bradford actor (the actor's name escapes me now)!
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A tailor-made topic for you to weigh in on, Ben. ;D
Desmond Collins! My favorite among John Karlen's many and varied characters!
I know this isn't going to work, but:
"Ben wrote:"
Ouch! You said it! I wonder how much more pleasant - sorry, I mean different - our viewing might have been if the actor who played Frank Garner had taken on the role(s) played by the Peter Bradford actor (the actor's name escapes me now)!
Vlad,
You don't remember Roger (touch my hair) Davis???
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You don't remember Roger (touch my hair) Davis???
Vlad, in case you didn't hear, VAM's referring to
ROGER DAAAAVIS!!!!!!!
Thank you.
Ben ;)
(Wishing RingoCollins was around to help me conjure up a clever way to make these letters louder)
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Vlad, in case you didn't hear, VAM's referring to
ROGER DAAAAVIS!!!!!!!
(Wishing RingoCollins was around to help me conjure up a clever way to make these letters louder)
We could rename this THE ROGER DAVIS SMILEY! -- [scrm]
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We could rename this THE ROGER DAVIS SMILEY! -- [scrm]
What this board really needs is a TRUE Roger Davis smiley. Just think of it, a little hair-touching/shouting smiley. Could there be any better way for the posters here to express their hatred for him?
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Even though I think legal advice in Collinwood was fairly pointless considering the kinds of problems they tended to have [fangs] here's my list...
1. A tie for first place with Frank Garner [thumb] and Richard Garner [thumb] - either of these guys seem pretty honest and legitimate. Of the two I'd be inclined to pick the father due to length of experience.
2. Barnabas Collins (short stint in 1840) - Even though he's not a real lawyer he still might be good in a pinch. [peace]
3. Peter Bradford - sincere but too spastic - I'd be afraid he'd irritate the judge and jury too much. [spin]
4. Garth Blackwood (who sought justice with his own hands) - only if he were seeking justice from Trask's hide on my behalf. [vylnt]
5. A tie for 5th place goes to Evan Hanley and James Blair - bad associations and therefore untrustworthy. [frkoff]
6. Charles Dawson - my memory fails me here but he has got to be better than the last guy... ?!?
7. Rev. Trask - Eeewh! [puke] Besides, I heard he was going to be tied up for awhile.
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Since I first tuned in 25 episodes before the 1795 storyline, I haven't seen most of these people (Though I've heard about them). The only ones I've seen as lawyers are Reverand Trask and Peter Bradford (And Tony Peterson). Out of those three, I'd choose Tony. He's a person who does the right thing and tries to believe people (Such as Julia Hoffman right before the 1795 flashback). I'd probably choose Peter next out of those three, but that depends. The good side of him is that he is an honest person, the bad thing is that I'd probably have to pay for a hearing aid after the case ;)
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7. Rev. Trask - Eeewh! [puke] Besides, I heard he was going to be tied up for awhile.
Is that snake, you suggested for his "perfect pet ," wraped around him? ;)