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Title: DS characters as trial lawyers
Post by: TNickey2003 on November 19, 2005, 01:51:50 AM

New poll for DS Forums.
Note: Which of the above characters do you feel has the most personality and brains to be a trial lawyer (again, whether or not they actually played lawyers on DS). If you think two or more impress you equally as lawyer material, vote accordingly.

Title: Re: DS characters as trial lawyers
Post by: retzev on November 19, 2005, 03:00:59 AM

Jason Mcguire  [diablo]

Title: Re: DS characters as trial lawyers
Post by: TNickey2003 on November 19, 2005, 03:03:36 AM

I thought about McGuire, and wished I had included him as a potential choice. Also failed to include King Johnny Romano ( even without his sharp-edged companion he sees formidably aggressive.)

Title: Re: DS characters as trial lawyers
Post by: Amy Jennings Fan on November 19, 2005, 03:04:20 AM

Chris Jennings

Title: Re: DS characters as trial lawyers
Post by: stefan on November 20, 2005, 01:59:59 AM

I'm really laughing at this one cause i work in a law firm. I'd say Professor Stokes in real time (geez). He's smart, observant, does his research, cool as a cucumber and doesn't ruffle easily. Pretty good character traits for a successful attorney. Next poll, how about DS characters as construction workers? ;D

I saw Nicholas Blair got some votes too and I'd go with him second. He'd charm the courts and witnesses and has an oily conscience. Also good traits for a successful attorney.

Title: Re: DS characters as trial lawyers
Post by: Midnite on November 20, 2005, 06:03:56 AM

I find the topic very amusing too.  :P

Quote from: Amy Jennings Fan

Chris Jennings

I could see that, especially since his PT counterpart was an attorney.  I don't know if Chris Collns had experience as a trial lawyer, but when you represent the Collins family you'll probably end up defending them in court.

I also voted for Barnabas because he did a bang-up job stepping in as Quentin I's attorney, and after only having just been at death's door.

NOT Peter Bradford.  ::)

Tony Peterson is my top pick-- in addition to the qualities called for in the poll, he's also ethical, tenacious, and discreet.  And kinda hot, too.  :D

DS had its share of lawyers, past and present.  Besides the ones I mentioned, there were at least 7 other attorneys seen or discussed on DS.  Would anyone like to try naming them?  :)

Title: Re: DS characters as trial lawyers
Post by: BuzzH on November 21, 2005, 04:42:55 PM

Quote from: retzev on November 19, 2005, 03:00:59 AM

Jason Mcguire  [diablo]

God knows he was SLEAZY enough to be a lawyer!  LOL!  A divorce lawyer at that.   ;D

Title: Re: DS characters as trial lawyers
Post by: BuzzH on November 21, 2005, 04:56:36 PM

Quote from: Midnite on November 20, 2005, 06:03:56 AM

Besides the ones I mentioned, there were at least 7 other attorneys seen or discussed on DS.  Would anyone like to try naming them?  :)

I think I have 6 of them:
Desmond Collins (1840)
Evan Hanley (1897)
Richard Garner (pre-Barnabas)
Frank Garner (pre-Barnabas)
Amadeus Collins (1692 flashback)
Horace Gladstone (1970 PT)

P.S. To the moderators, I can't tell you how FRUSTRATING is it, when you accidently post before you're done typing, then go into QUOTE MODIFY to repair the damage only to have the darn board tell you "you can't post because it hasn't been 2 minutes since you're last post" then by the time you wait 2 minutes, it says your option to MODIFY has expired!!   >:(  Please can this be fixed?

Title: Re: DS characters as trial lawyers
Post by: Midnite on November 21, 2005, 05:36:22 PM

Quote from: BuzzH on November 21, 2005, 04:56:36 PM

Quote from: Midnite on November 20, 2005, 06:03:56 AM

Besides the ones I mentioned, there were at least 7 other attorneys seen or discussed on DS.  Would anyone like to try naming them?  :)

I think I have 6 of them:
Desmond Collins (1840)
Evan Hanley (1897)
Richard Garner (pre-Barnabas)
Frank Garner (pre-Barnabas)

I always did admire your memory, BuzzH!  :D

The actor playing one of the characters you listed also played a lawyer in another time.  ;)

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Amadeus Collins (1692 flashback)

I wasn't counting judges, and if so I guess we'd have to include all the judges seen during in the witchcraft trials.

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Horace Gladstone (1970 PT)

I know he was a supplier for Cyrus, but was he an attorney?

The 7th was unseen.  Considering how he was described, he's not a lawyer you'd want to hire.  Selby fans might know this one.  :)

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P.S. To the moderators, I can't tell you how FRUSTRATING is it, when you accidently post before you're done typing, then go into QUOTE MODIFY to repair the damage only to have the darn board tell you "you can't post because it hasn't been 2 minutes since you're last post" then by the time you wait 2 minutes, it says your option to MODIFY has expired!!   >:(  Please can this be fixed?

That error message doesn't have anything to do with the modify feature.  There's no QUOTE MODIFY button; there's a quote option (for making a new post) and a separate modify option (for all edits).  So make sure, if you want to edit a post, that you select Modify and not Quote.

You can also preview your post indefinitely before submitting (posting) it, and once you've posted it you have the 2 minutes to make the first edit, then you have another 2 minutes after that edit, etc.  So you could edit a post more than once as long as you don't wait allow 2 minutes to lapse between modifications.  Hope that helped.

Title: Re: DS characters as trial lawyers
Post by: Misa on November 21, 2005, 05:48:09 PM

I don't get the poll option to vote, just the results. Why is this the poll isn't closed yet.

Misa

Title: Re: DS characters as trial lawyers
Post by: Midnite on November 21, 2005, 05:57:01 PM

Quote from: Misa on November 21, 2005, 05:48:09 PM

I don't get the poll option to vote, just the results. Why is this the poll isn't closed yet.

Thanks for letting us know, Misa.  You should be able to vote now.

Title: Re: DS characters as trial lawyers
Post by: Connie on November 21, 2005, 11:30:46 PM

I think Desmond was a lousy lawyer.
Barnabas started out very well during Quentin's trial but somehow seemed to whimper out towards the end.  Disheartening.

 :-

If you want to go with the negative stereotypical lawyer traits -- sleazy, under-handed, money-grubbing, etc., then maybe 1897 Quentin might do well in the courtroom.
Plus, if all else fails, he might at least win over the female jurors.   ::)

Title: Re: DS characters as trial lawyers
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 22, 2005, 01:09:13 AM

Quote from: Connie on November 21, 2005, 11:30:46 PM

If you want to go with the negative stereotypical lawyer traits -- sleazy, under-handed, money-grubbing, etc., then maybe 1897 Quentin might do well in the courtroom.
Plus, if all else fails, he might at least win over the female jurors.

Well, Quentin might have had a very long wait for that to happen because women weren't allowed on juries in 1897.  ;)  In fact, even though a handful of states decided to allow women on juries as early as the 1920s after the passage of the 19th Amendment (though in a limited capacity), the battle of women to be allowed to take part in jury service continued on into the 1970s. (And that wasn't just the case in this country - for instance, Canada didn't see the first woman on a jury until 1972!)

Title: Re: DS characters as trial lawyers
Post by: Misa on November 22, 2005, 07:08:29 AM

Thank you Midnite, I was able to vote now. Poor Tony doesn't seem to be doing that well and he was a lawyer, and I think that he was probably pretty good.

I voted for Tony, Prof. Stokes, Petofi, and Nicholas Blair. They seemed to be the ones that probably could make the best case and change people's minds.

Misa

Title: Re: DS characters as trial lawyers
Post by: MagnusTrask on November 22, 2005, 07:15:55 AM

I forgot that Barnabas lost in 1840.    Still, I go with him because theatrics are very important in the courtroom, and BC knows how to make a spectacular entrance.    He had some of them PIMPing in the aisles, or rather, the witness stand.     Man that was one fun moment.      The Tribunal should have thrown up their hands, said, well we can't argue with that, and sent Q home in gratitude for the entertainment value.    And they should have tipped Barnabas.   Yes, I know the Tribunal didn't know what BC had been up to, or behind, or walled up inside of, but still....

Title: Re: DS characters as trial lawyers
Post by: BuzzH on November 22, 2005, 03:38:07 PM

Quote from: MagnusTrask on November 22, 2005, 07:15:55 AM

He had some of them PIMPing in the aisles, or rather, the witness stand.

AND he had some PIMPING threads!  That purple outfit he had was to DIE for!   ^-^

Title: Re: DS characters as trial lawyers
Post by: Connie on November 22, 2005, 05:21:08 PM

Quote from: Mysterious Benefactor on November 22, 2005, 01:09:13 AM

Well, Quentin might have had a very long wait for that to happen because women weren't allowed on juries in 1897.  ;)

Wow - that never even occurred to me.  [knockwood]
So much for Quentin and women jurors.

Speaking of the tribunal in 1840....what a bunch of inept, incompetent, sickening fools.  I get worked up just thinking about it. 

Title: Re: DS characters as trial lawyers
Post by: BuzzH on November 22, 2005, 05:45:40 PM

Quote from: Connie on November 22, 2005, 05:21:08 PM

Speaking of the tribunal in 1840....what a bunch of inept, incompetent, sickening fools.  I get worked up just thinking about it. 

You know what gets me worked up?  The fact that after the Salem witch trials, in the 1600's, they didn't allow witchcraft trials anymore in the US!  So not only is the 1840 trial completely un-Constitutional, but the one in 1795 is as well!   >:(

Title: Re: DS characters as trial lawyers
Post by: Misa on November 22, 2005, 10:30:52 PM

I agree with you on the history BuzzH, They should have made them a more private affair rather then public. Sort of clandestine trails that couldn't be public because they were against the law, but that the people involved in thought needed to be held, because they really believed these people were witches.

Or else they should have said that the accused was responsible, but still how could they have held the trials and proven that the accused were quilty if they couldn't bring up witchcraft?

If they are ever able to redo Dark Shadows I hope they fix some of the history problems.

Misa

Title: Re: DS characters as trial lawyers
Post by: Bob_the_Bartender on November 22, 2005, 10:48:44 PM

The Rev. Gregory Trask, because he was so "blessed" with that seemingly once-in-a-liftime combination of prevarication, blarney, gall, duplicity, and just good, old "bovine excrement," that he would have made an excellent and valued member of the so-called "Dream Team" for one, Orenthal James Simpson! 

To quote the Rev. Gregory Trask, Esq. (now a prosecutor), "Speaking strictly, 'reverend to reverend,' Miss Victoria Winters is the witch!" >:D

Title: Re: DS characters as trial lawyers
Post by: MagnusTrask on November 26, 2005, 09:37:40 AM

That bit during the trial about laws of the colonies superceding those of 1840, bcause they came first, was awfully screwed up as well.   Though, I enjoyed the fact that they got right the fact that Maine had only been its own state, separate from Massachussets, for 20 years.  Maine became a state in 1820.

Title: Re: DS characters as trial lawyers
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 09, 2005, 01:38:45 AM

Actually, the way it was put seems to make plausible sense.

From today's slideshow:

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/1208ds_15.jpg)
Ep #1162 - Quentin is charged with witchcraft under law 119, dated the 23rd of April,
1696, which the articles of Maine's statehood specify the state keep even though it
was a part of Massachusetts at the time.

Though I have absolutely no idea if it's actually correct legally speaking.  [santa_wink]