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Title: OT: Old House in Belfast, ME
Post by: arashi on April 25, 2005, 08:37:58 PM
I had the oppurtunity to get to Belfast again today, so I made myself remember to bring the digital camera and get over to take pictures of the house I mentioned in a previous topic somewhere.

I remember driving by this house for the first time, and it's a little around a corner so you start to turn and it starts to come into view. I was like Oh my God! It's the Old House. I really wanted to check out the inside as the place is GIGANTIC, however that would be B&E, and I love you guys but I'm not ready to go to jail.

Much like the Old House in the show, the place is in a sad state of disrepair. However, from the looks of it a few slight repairs to some rotted wood and a new paint job would do the place wonders. Just walking on the property I fell in love with the house. If I had the $$ I would so buy it, turn it into a Bed & Breakfast and name it the Old House, at which I would hold lavish parties every Halloween.

Anyway, on to the pictures:

(http://www.hollowmoon.net/pics/oldhouse1.jpg)

(http://www.hollowmoon.net/pics/oldhouse2.jpg)

(http://www.hollowmoon.net/pics/oldhouse3.jpg)

(http://www.hollowmoon.net/pics/oldhouse4.jpg)

Enjoy the pics!
Title: Re: OT: Old House in Belfast, ME
Post by: arashi on April 25, 2005, 10:13:50 PM
Okay, so maybe a more, Old House marries Rose Cottage now that I think about it. Anyway, my Mom found some more information on the house, including the real estate listing:

Listing (http://www.remarkablerealty.com/bin/web/real_estate/AR120224/HOME_SEARCH/1109872705.html?ZKEY=&acnt=AR120224&action=HOME_SEARCH&inwindow=&hs_action=VIEW_DETAIL&listing_id=REASEQ12321196)

The house was built in 1844 and is known as the Joseph Williamson house. It's currently listed at $550,000. It has 6 bedrooms and 5 bathrooms! The interior photo of the staircase makes me want this house really bad. In my dreams I guess!
Title: Re: OT: Old House in Belfast, ME
Post by: ClaudeNorth on April 26, 2005, 04:33:56 AM
I was in Belfast, ME last weekend.  Where, exactly, is this house located in relation to the "downtown" area?
Title: Re: OT: Old House in Belfast, ME
Post by: Gerard on April 26, 2005, 10:24:43 AM
Arashi, that house is magnificent - truly a grand Old House!  And don't be so quick to dismiss a dream about purchasing it and turning it into a bed-and-breakfast (with DS-themed Halloween parties!).  Maybe, just maybe, there's someway, with a lotta determination, you could make that dream come true.  And we'd all be your first guests!  (I like my coffee black with lotsa caffeine for breakfast in the morning, please.)

Gerard
Title: Re: OT: Old House in Belfast, ME
Post by: TERRY308 on April 26, 2005, 11:17:38 AM
Great house.  You could hire Willie for a year so he could tell your foreman exactly what to do.

(I like my coffee with alot of creme)
Title: Re: OT: Old House in Belfast, ME
Post by: onyx_treasure on April 26, 2005, 01:04:29 PM
     What an elegant old house.  I am surprised to see there is only one chimney.  Houses like that around my area tend to be turned into multi-families and office space.
Title: Re: OT: Old House in Belfast, ME
Post by: Barnabas'sBride on April 27, 2005, 07:04:00 PM
It does sort of give off the feel of the old house. :)
Title: Re: OT: Old House in Belfast, ME
Post by: arashi on May 02, 2005, 03:29:32 AM
I was in Belfast, ME last weekend.  Where, exactly, is this house located in relation to the "downtown" area?

When you're driving down the main street past the movie theater and through the lights, just keep driving straight towards the hospital and it's on your right. It's a few houses down from the White House B&B.
Title: Re: OT: Old House in Belfast, ME
Post by: coterie-mc on January 05, 2006, 12:36:58 AM
What an awesome looking "Old House"....A lady i chat with on another forum lives up in Unity, Maine and knows exactly where this house is.  i see by the listing that someone bought it...what a buy
Title: Re: OT: Old House in Belfast, ME
Post by: Raineypark on January 05, 2006, 02:34:24 AM
Only $9500.00 for the annual property taxes?  You HAVE to be kidding me!!!!!
Title: Re: OT: Old House in Belfast, ME
Post by: coterie-mc on January 05, 2006, 02:37:27 AM
I didn't see that...ouch!!!....and i'm from taxachusetts too...
Title: Re: OT: Old House in Belfast, ME
Post by: Midnite on January 05, 2006, 03:54:17 AM
Wow.  That beautiful house would probably sell for $2 million in Southern California.  ::)
Title: Re: OT: Old House in Belfast, ME
Post by: Philippe Cordier on January 05, 2006, 05:15:07 AM
I agree that the price of that house is a steal.  Can't imagine it being priced that low in either of "my" two states here in the Upper Midwest.  I've never heard of Belfast but am guessing it must be very remote ...

It is exciting to see that a house resembling the Old House really was built in the correct location - Maine - in the 1840s.  I wonder if  such a house COULD, theoretically, have been built there during the Revolutionary War, when the Old House was built.  Someone on the forum once described the homes dating from that era in Maine and they didn't seem to be much like what we see on DS.

I remember providing a link to an impressive house of the correct place (Maine) and time (late 1700s).  While lovely and impressive, though, the house didn't look very much like what we see on DS, but it was fun to get a sense of the times.
Title: Re: OT: Old House in Belfast, ME
Post by: onyx_treasure on January 05, 2006, 06:21:39 PM
Wow.  That beautiful house would probably sell for $2 million in Southern California.  ::)

     I bet it needs a boat load of work done to it.  I have an old house in Maine.  If you can even get a contractor to show up, you get put on a waiting list.  It ends up costing you $2 million in repairs.
     Maine has the fourth highest taxes in the US.  Midnite, we don't have prop 13 here.  Our town just put out its assessments and people with homes in the 3 hundred thousand range have received the estimated taxes to be as much as 6 thousand dollars. [snowball].  I shudder to think what Liz's property tax would be.  She would have to sell off the "old house" and "seaview" just to pay them. 
Title: Re: OT: Old House in Belfast, ME
Post by: Midnite on January 05, 2006, 07:50:27 PM
Maine has the fourth highest taxes in the US.  Midnite, we don't have prop 13 here.  Our town just put out its assessments and people with homes in the 3 hundred thousand range have received the estimated taxes to be as much as 6 thousand dollars.

Oh my goodness.

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I shudder to think what Liz's property tax would be.  She would have to sell off the "old house" and "seaview" just to pay them.

I was surprised by that bit about Liz successfully petitioning to have her property taxes reduced due to the fact that half of Collinwood was closed off (which says a lot about the Collins' financial situation, don't you think?).  Do you know if that's really possible there?  I'm about to pay taxes here on an addition that's not even built yet.  :-
Title: Re: OT: Old House in Belfast, ME
Post by: Raineypark on January 05, 2006, 08:08:04 PM
Here in New York you'd have to demolish the part of the house you no longer used to get away with lower taxes.  If it's standing, it gets taxed.  But I don't understand how you can be looking at a tax bill for a structure that doesn't exist yet... [hdscrt]
Title: Re: OT: Old House in Belfast, ME
Post by: Midnite on January 05, 2006, 08:53:26 PM
Quote from: Raineypark
Here in New York you'd have to demolish the part of the house you no longer used to get away with lower taxes.  If it's standing, it gets taxed.  But I don't understand how you can be looking at a tax bill for a structure that doesn't exist yet... [hdscrt]

That's how I thought it went, Rainey.  To answer your question, you first have to submit plans to the city for approval, and so it begins...
Title: Re: OT: Old House in Belfast, ME
Post by: coterie-mc on January 05, 2006, 09:24:48 PM
Same here as New York,  Build your addition, get your different Building inspectors to sign off on the building permit...get an Occupancy certificate to move into your new addition and then they will tax you... they are slow on plowing and sanding the streets here but quick on sending out those tax bills....
Title: Re: OT: Old House in Belfast, ME
Post by: onyx_treasure on January 05, 2006, 09:35:14 PM
I was surprised by that bit about Liz successfully petitioning to have her property taxes reduced due to the fact that half of Collinwood was closed off (which says a lot about the Collins' financial situation, don't you think?).  Do you know if that's really possible there?  I'm about to pay taxes here on an addition that's not even built yet.  :-

     I met an old women recently at her home. She showed me her sunroom.  It was just a small roof outside her dining room.  Her husband had removed all the screened walls.  The city told him he could reduce his taxes by dismantling it every autumn.  I guess every little bit helps.  However, I don't think they would let you just seal off parts of your house to avoid the taxes.  One eldrely women came into see the assessor to plead with them to lower her assessment.  She had a four bedroom house.  The assessor callously told her to sell her home because she no longer needed four bedrooms.  I think she would have gladly sealed off the rooms rather than be forced out of her home of 40 years. [santa_cry]
   After I moved to Maine 17 years ago, California tried to collect income taxes from me.  The letter stated something about how they still considered me a resident eventhough I owned no property and was living in Maine.  Can you believe the gall?
Title: Re: OT: Old House in Belfast, ME
Post by: Misa on January 09, 2006, 12:01:40 AM
This is such a lovely house. Taxes would be a real pain though. It sure is strange how taxes and house prices vary from state to state.

Misa