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General Discussions => Current Talk Archive => Current Talk '26 I => Polls Archive => Topic started by: Patti Feinberg on March 11, 2005, 03:19:51 PM
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Who is more evil >:D ...
The various incarnations of Trask, or Nicky Blair?
Why?
Patti
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Gregory Trask is the single most loathsome, despicable entity ever to appear on the show.
As my mother used to say....." even the Devil won't have that one"
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Gregory Trask is the single most loathsome, despicable entity ever to appear on the show.
As my mother used to say....." even the Devil won't have that one"
I'd definitely have to agree with that one. Plus, Lacy did an EXCELLENT job of getting us to hate him! *applauds JL*
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It's one of my typical hairsplitting bits of metaphysics, but where behavior is concerned, I prefer to think of depravity (in the sense of energies directed towards ignoble ends) rather than evil (which I regard as at best a phantasm).
In any event, Trask wins hands down, and Gregory trumps all the other Trasks in spades. After all, Blair was fairly honest--he was a minister of Satan, and in his debonair way, he was fairly up-front about that. (One of my all-time favorite scenes is the climactic confrontation between Blair and Julia in the Collinwood drawing room in which he reveals the true nature of his plans for Adam and Eve. The good doctor exclaims "That's monstrous!" and Blair, with a quiet leer, purrs "It's SUPPOSED to be.")
Trask, on the other hand, CLAIMED to be working on behalf of the Almighty. We all know what his REAL agenda was. And there are so many like him abroad in our nation today...
G.
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Gregory Trask is the single most loathsome, despicable entity ever to appear on the show.
Truer words were never spoken. But at the same time it was so much fun to see the other characters catch on to him (Episode #863 is just wonderful, with spectacular scenes between Edward & Trask and Judith & Trask) and dole out his richly deserved fate.
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Gregory Trask
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I've always thought the human villains on DS (e.g. Nathan Forbes, Gabriel Collins, and especially Gregory Trask) were much more monstrous than any vampire, witch, werewolf, or Satanist. As Rainey articulated so beautifully, Gregory is pure scum. Every time I see the character, I feel the urge to scrub myself with disinfectant. His crimes were numerous: impersonating a man of God, abusing and possibly molesting children in his care, arranging for the murder of his wife, driving Judith insane, and cheating rich widows of their money. I think he deserved far worse treatment than he actually got.
ProfStokes
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i don't know about "evil" but both characters are certainly among the most annoying of thier storylines.they contribute greatly to the campiness the show is sometimes known for.
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I don't know about that: Gregory Trask is a fire-and-brimstone megalomaniac who believes he speaks for God. The part simply can't be played low-key. It cries out (literally) for an over-the-top performance.
Nicky Blair, on the other hand, comes across as suave and urbane.....which makes for an attractive emissary of Hell. Which Devil is going to gather more souls: the one with the horns and pitchfork, or the one with the smooth talk and the gleam in his eye? ;)
I think both actors played those parts exactly right.
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Gregory Trask murdered his beloved wife, then attempted to drive his second wife Judith insane to gain control of her money, business and become Master of Collinwood... which is the only thing he really wanted in life, this makes him the most evil person alive, Gregory received his just rewards in the end, and by a Collins. ^-^
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Oh, definitely Gregory Trask. He'd even scandalize an '80's televangelist.
Gerard
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I loved the performances of both Jerry Lacy and Humbert Allen Astredo in their respective roles.
Both actors are, to my taste, thespian perfection incarnate.
G.
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Oh, definitely Gregory Trask. He'd even scandalize an '80's televangelist.
Oh, now I don't know Gerard...
he'd have to dye his hair purple, get a boufant going and slather on lots of non-waterproof mascara in order to really compete with some of those bozos.
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I'm suprised no one is saying REVErend Trask, to me, he was more of a S--T. Sooooo self-righteous. So DESIROUS of FINDING eeevil! Wadda creep!
I'm very suprised no one has voted for HAA.
Patti
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I'm suprised no one is saying REVErend Trask, to me, he was more of a S--T. Sooooo self-righteous. So DESIROUS of FINDING eeevil! Wadda creep!
In Trask's defense (weak as it may be) at least he was honest about his motives. I believe that Rev. Trask was sincere about wanting to find and purge evil from the world. He did use underhanded methods to prosecute Victoria once he came to believe she was the witch, he was cruel, and he was a jerk, but I don't think he was as beastly as his descendant Gregory, who was a total hypocrite.
ProfStokes
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Reverend Trask seemed to legitimately believe in what he was doing. Not saying that makes him a good person (plenty of evil people have believed in their causes), but in this crowd, he's ranking pretty darn high in the good qualities department.
Evan Hanley - eh, pathetic really. Kind of like the Satanists in The Seventh Victim, ultimately just a hack loser.
Nicholas Blair...I do believe in evil and I definitely think he qualified as such. OTOH, it's like hating the third assistant vice president of a failing international corporation. The guy shows up, he does his job comparatively well, when all about him are running around like the incompetents they are and when the chips are down, he's willing to deal. At least Nicholas doesn't really go out of his way to play a nice guy.
Gruesome Gregory - Child abuser, bigot, misogynist, possibly molester, killer. And he's a hypocrite to boot. He wins hands down.
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That's very cool that you brought up the Seventh Victim, Luciaphil. That's such an intriguing movie.
I always wonder whether Polanski had seen it in film school. The banality of the Satanists in the final scene of Rosemary's Baby reminds me a lot of the 7th Victim.
G.
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Gregory Trask. This man planned the murder of his wife tried to place the blame on an innocent man, Drove his second wife insane, romanced a rich widow, who ended up killing herself, tried to take control of the Collins fortune, enjoyed saditically abusing helpless children, he tried to get Edward to kill Quentin, and really didn't even seem to care about his own daughter.
Evan Hanely seemed to be a pretty second rate satanist, he sure wanted to send Angelique back when she started showing up in the flames. He let Trask blackmail him into making Timothy Shaw murder Minerva. (Why didn't he just kill Trask?)
Reverand Trask was a nut case, fanatic, lunny. Who was in love with the idea of driving evil from the world. Although he seemed to take a sadistic pleasure in frightening beautiful young women.
Nicholas Blair for being a servant of the devil just didn't really do have of the evil things that Gregory Trask did. He also didn't seem to get as good a storyline as Gregory Trask did.
So, Gregory Trask is definatly the more evil of these characters.