DARK SHADOWS FORUMS
General Discussions => Current Talk Archive => Current Talk '25 I => Current Talk '05 I => Topic started by: dvlvan26 on February 02, 2005, 05:56:46 PM
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Hey Cousins!
If anyone buys the February 6-12 issue on TV Guide, you can find a picture of Louis Edmonds on page 12 when he was on All My Children. Aslo, there is an article about the hottest kisses on TV. And DS wasn't mentioned. I was mad again, but do anyone remember the hottest kisses on DS?
I know of one that stands out in my mind: On Box Set 6, Nathan proposed to Millicent and he kissed her in the mouth, just sweeping Millicent off her feet! :)
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Hello dvlvan26...
In my mind when Barnabas and his beloved Josette kissed I could see the passion between them, [love3]
as was the kiss between Bramwell and his Catherine, [love7]
JF seemed to be proficient in the fine art of giving and receiving a kiss. [luv]
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Then there was that scene in which Timothy Shaw planted a long, passionate kiss on the oh so willing lips of Tate's Creation, or did I dream that one? ;D
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Chris Jennings (Don Briscoe) and Carolyn Stoddard (Nancy Barrett) in the Drawing Room after a hot date.... inspiring the avatar photo you'll see to the left of this post (taken from said episode).
No need to pinch Jean-Claude: Briscoe's smooch, as Tim Shaw, to Amanda Harris did happen and was juicy for 1897 standards. Pity she fell for Quentin instead (sorry, Annie...) but it was all about revenge and the money for Tim the kissing fool.
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I thought the scene of Kendrick Young and Melanie Collins were on fire when they kissed. It was like rated x.
luv, victoriawinters
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Bramwell and Catherine.
It's like Bramwell "Look at me, I'm so poor. Look at you, you're going to be rich"
Then, Bramwell, well he's knows how to give Catherine just what she needed. [luv]
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Then there was that infamous kiss in 1795 between ex-lovers Barnabas and Angelique that started the decline and fall of Barnabas Collins.
I can't recall if there was another (last) kiss between them in 1840, though I want to remember it that way. Considering the circumstances, I imagine it would have been pretty passionate
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Oh there were so many HOT kisses on DS it'll make your mouth water and ... well uh also encourage you to take a shower. ;D I have taken screen captures of many of the kisses and this one I made into a collage. This is from 1897 episode 720, Beth goes to the Cottage looking for Jenny but finds Quentin. He wants her, but she resists [momentarily] then he kisses her!!
(http://home.comcast.net/~dsart21st/kissing720.jpg)
Of course there are other wonderful kisses from beautiful lips! Tony and Carolyn; Adam and Carolyn; Quentin and Beth; Tony and Cassandra; Barnabas and Josette; .....etc
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Here is another very HOT kissing scene. This is during the Adam storyline, while Adam is still locked in the West Wing. Nicholas "advised" him to "take" what you want. So he did, which I didn't like the idea, but when just looking at the pictures, you don't get that impression. If anyone wants to see that episode again, it's #549.
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No need to pinch Jean-Claude: Briscoe's smooch, as Tim Shaw, to Amanda Harris did happen and was juicy for 1897 standards. Pity she fell for Quentin instead (sorry, Annie...) but it was all about revenge and the money for Tim the kissing fool.
Oh...I was, uh, thinking about the other Tate's Creation, the one with the dark, wavy hair and doe eyes who never spoke, played by Alexander Cort. Again, I think that scene was the product of my rather vivid imagination...
But, as far as actual DS kisses, I think the Bramwell-Catherine scenes were the steamiest. Not surprising, considering it was 1971, when all the soaps were starting to push the boundaries of permissiveness. Interesting to think how much steamier DS would have become had it stayed on the air for a few more years.
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My favorite is the ones between Barnabas and Josette at the start of 1795, I think because until that point, all I knew of was the misery and tragedy between them, and then there they were in the old house, both alive, obviously in love and so happy. I wish they had more moments together before Angelique started her magic.
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there was one kiss between QUentin and Amanda and as they pulled away, there was like a string of spit connecting their lips! Does anyone else remember that?
think how much steamier DS would have become had it stayed on the air for a few more years.
Imagine if DS was still on air today. They'd be showing the naked male behind like Guiding Light and As the World Turns. LOL
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It might have been the times and day-time forum but I (so far) haven't seen a passionate kiss that's convinced me. I adore JF but never felt raw sexuality was his strong point (romance and romantic longing yes, though). Actually, Humbert Allen Astredo (hope I have the spelling correct) as Nicholas Blair was kinda sexy with Maggie Evans. I sensed some cool erotic tension between the two. Just my opinion. I hear Quentin Collins was a hot number but i haven't seen anything with him in it.
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there was one kiss between QUentin and Amanda and as they pulled away, there was like a string of spit connecting their lips! Does anyone else remember that?
ROTFLMAO! Yes, I do remember that particularly sloppy, nasty kiss! [9341] [10]
~Penny Dreadful~
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eewwww I knew someone was gonna mention the spittle kiss . ..
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"My favorite is the ones between Barnabas and Josette at the start of 1795, I think because until that point, all I knew of was the misery and tragedy between them, and then there they were in the old house, both alive, obviously in love and so happy. I wish they had more moments together before Angelique started her magic. "
I'm also a Josette/Barnabas fan and strongly feel the writers were VERY remiss in not giving those two a little more time to develop before Angelique zoomed in. But, from what little we got- I felt the somewhat (in my opinion) chaste kisses between the two was an approriate and interesting acting choice (if that were the case). It did seem initially Josette was a bit immature and prissy BUT I also sensed that beneath Josette's timidity lay a warm, compassionate and willing companion to Barnabas who would have moved heaven and earth to become a good wife to him and be all that he wanted her to be. Josette's potential was just aching to be released. How KLS managed to convey that in the short amount of time alloted to Josette as a person is a small tribute to her sensitivity to the character.
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I thought the Barnabas/Angelique kiss in 1795 was fairly torrid. Can't say most of the others I recall are memorable in a good way. Mostly when I think of kissing on DS I think of a slew of unfortunate actresses in the embrace of various Roger Davis characters and that's never a pleasant image...
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This isn't a 'hot' kiss, but towards the haunting, I believe David kisses his Dad (or Joan Bennett). To me, it's his was of holding on to what's truly dear to him. That's the one that stands out...David being scared.
Patti
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maybe not the hottest kiss but the first time burke and vicki really kissed out on the terrace with a certain someone watching from the darkness was pretty good. [vampy]
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Imagine if DS was still on air today. They'd be showing the naked male behind like Guiding Light and As the World Turns. LOL
Not that there's anything wrong with that... >:D
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Imagine if DS was still on air today. They'd be showing the naked male behind like Guiding Light and As the World Turns. LOL
Not that there's anything wrong with that... >:D
Why I, I, I, I'd be aghast! Or would that be agape? :P
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eewwww I knew someone was gonna mention the spittle kiss . ..
The lights on the set made it shimmer like a spider's web. [blackwidow]
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Chris Jennings (Don Briscoe) and Carolyn Stoddard (Nancy Barrett) in the Drawing Room after a hot date....
Yeah...sigh... I think they made a cute couple, for a time anyway.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v706/dsbabe/668-26.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v706/dsbabe/668-28.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v706/dsbabe/668-27.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v706/dsbabe/668-30.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v706/dsbabe/668-35.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v706/dsbabe/668-33.jpg)
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I liked Chris and Carolyn too. I thought they worked really well as a couple and was disappointed that more was never done with them. They were very convincing to me. :)
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Ahhh, Heather provided some juicy "Briscoe smooch" captions. Who needs porn??!!
These are so sexy and tender and.... oh, my cold shower is ready.... gotta go...
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I think NB kissed the most men on the series...which man kissed the most women? Quentin? or Barnabas? ;D
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IMHO, the hottest kiss never took place on the screen but, to this day, is scorched into my brain - the imagined kiss between Julia and Barnabas. Yeah, a hopeless romantic I am... [9341] On the down side, I always felt sorry for Alexandra Moltke coz every time Roger Davis kissed her, her grabbed hold of her head like a melon and fired away. Afterwards, she was always trying discreetly trying to tidy her messy hair. LOL.
Countess
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forget about her hairdo...just having to kiss roger davis was probably enough to discombobulate the poor girl.the two of them played at such a different pitch their scenes together could be jarring.he treated her like a rag-doll. :P
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Here's another Carolyn kissing scene. It's the one where Carolyn has Joe Haskell come up to Uncle Rodger's office. When Joe finds Carolyn in the office and Rodger nowhere to be found, well lets just say that old office was smokin. For the most part Nancy Barrett's kissing scenes were hot no matter who her partner was. Elmont....
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I think the hottest kiss is the one that never happened except for in Photoshop.
And here it is...
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Oh by the way Connie thanks for the screen capture that I used for the kiss that everyone wanted to see.
FireRose
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Well, bust my.....whatever!! ;D
That's really good! Could you do one that doesn't have the effects? (I'd try but don't think I have the patience)
[wavey]
[thumb]
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Lovely!!
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Could you do one that doesn't have the effects? (I'd try but don't think I have the patience)
How about this?
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FireRose...I luv you! [cheerleader]
Countess(happy at last.)
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i don't really get the whole barnabas/julia preoccupation.why isn't it o.k. for them just to be friends and colleagues?
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i don't really get the whole barnabas/julia preoccupation.why isn't it o.k. for them just to be friends and colleagues?
Yeah, I'm glad they never actually got together on the show. It would have ruined that tension, and a relationship of that nature probably would have ended badly for both of them. But I think a lot/most people can relate to the situation Julia is in (longing for someone they can't be with or who doesn't feel the same way) and so they really root for Julia to be with Barnabas. IMO, they make a great team as close friends, but not as Romantic partners. Sadly, I think Barnabas is doomed to loneliness. He just has way too much baggage, and bad luck seems to follow him wherever he goes. Any potential romantic interest inevitably ends up dead for one reason or another. Julia, on the other hand, probably would have eventually found someone on her intellectual level who could appreciate her and not take her for granted.
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i don't really get the whole barnabas/julia preoccupation.why isn't it o.k. for them just to be friends and colleagues?
Grayson Hall started that when she decided to play the character of Julia to be in love with Barnabas. So because of that interpretation they were never just friends and colleagues. It wasn't that simple.
Even Sam Hall in his interview on one of the DVD's stated that the only way to resolve the Barnabas/ Julia relationship was to kill her off. That there was no place to go with the storyline in regards to Barnabas as long as Julia was there.
FireRose
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Could you do one that doesn't have the effects? (I'd try but don't think I have the patience)
How about this?
Good!
I tried but....it didn't come out too good. [lghy]
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i don't really get the whole barnabas/julia preoccupation.why isn't it o.k. for them just to be friends and colleagues?
I'm glad they never actually got together on the show. It would have ruined that tension, and a relationship of that nature probably would have ended badly for both of them. But I think a lot/most people can relate to the situation Julia is in (longing for someone they can't be with or who doesn't feel the same way) and so they really root for Julia to be with Barnabas.
Well, I agree that if they would've gotten together on the show it might've ruined the tension that many empathize with, however I respectfully disagree that if B&J would've gotten together (in one way or another) the relationship would've ended badly for them... I mean, aside from what the writers may have concocted in such a case, who's to say in that wacky world of Collinsport, ya know? ::) Well, there was also that little Sam Hall TV Guide article... not that that means everything, but... :-
IMO, they make a great team as close friends, but not as Romantic partners.
Aw, I think they'd do fine as both... ;) ::cough::
He just has way too much baggage, and bad luck seems to follow him wherever he goes. Any potential romantic interest inevitably ends up dead for one reason or another.
LOL - true! Partly because of that infernal curse, that is... :- I don't know - as much as I want to give him a good smack up the wazoo from time to time, I still feel for the guy. Sigh--it's my typical Gemini nature I suppose - I can both love and dislike two things at the same freakin' time. It's *madness* I tell ya - LOL ;D
Julia, on the other hand, probably would have eventually found someone on her intellectual level who could appreciate her and not take her for granted.
Well, I can see exactly where you guys are coming from...but that doesn't automatically mean if she settled down with someone that was her intellectual equal, that she'd have a satisfying relationship for the rest of her days (I think that the way Grayson played Julia evoked some very vulnerable and powerful qualities. Now, I'd be the first to say that Barn. ain't Julia's intellectual equal (snort), but I think that Julia falling in love with B. was one area of her life that she couldn't control...that's who her heart chose) Take Stokes, for example - in many ways he's her equal...smart, scholarly, likes a good sherry and can talk for hours about one fascinating subject after another--but for the life of me I could never see them doing the horizontal tango over a pile of antique books in his posh apartment (although there was an episode...oh I forget the episode number, damn :P...wherein Julia comes to Stokes' apartment to treat Tony Peterson, and when she sits down on the professor's couch Julia *unintentionally* ::cough:: flashes him a tasty gaze of her leg, stockings, etc. What a hoot! Some of the darndest things happen to Julia when she's treating someone in an emergency...but I digress...) ;D
Moral of this story... I must confess, I've imagined B&J doing a bit of tongue wrestling too, being the wench that I am. [banana]
But don't mind me - There's more than enough room for everyone to have their own opinion on that subject... :-*
Group Hug,
Heather [8285]
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I'm in full agreement with Heather. B/J in a state of marital bliss just doesn't jive with DS's dark mood. However, a long romantic involvement (with a few setbacks thrown in for even MORE torture) wouldn't have affected their "friendship" and alliance as ghostbusters. Let's face it - the love between them was evident IMHO. :-* I often thought that Angelique's curse prevented Barnabas from making any moves on the good doctor. With the others, he only lost a lover; with Julia he stood to lose a lover AND a best friend - much higher stakes. Is he willing to gamble? Can he stand to live without her? This quandary would have made for an interesting storyline. They kiss...then he pulls back. Will Julia die like the others? Or will she walk away when he denies what they share? I don't think anyone imagines Julia in an apron, preggers no less, whipping up dinner in the kitchen for her man! Think Mulder and Scully (minus William - a huge mistake, but I digress). They'd share a loving moment then they'd be up to their necks in conspiracy theories and little grey men. The writers didn't dwell on it but it was clearly there. The DS writers could have thrown us B/J fans a bone once in a while. I swear that Sam Hall insisted on a "no kissing" clause in Grayson's contract! At least that's what my school pals used to joke about anyway. Even though DS dropped the ball on the romance that SHOULD have been, we can still create our own version of what would have happened. Thankfully, I have a "VERY" good imagination... Ahhhh.....think I need a cigarette after that. ;D
Countess(satisfied at last....)
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I don't think anyone imagines Julia in an apron, preggers no less, whipping up dinner in the kitchen for her man!
I do! LOL
Except I also see her dumping a plate of spaghetti and meatballs in his lap when she's mad at him.
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I do! LOL
Except I also see her dumping a plate of spaghetti and meatballs in his lap when she's mad at him.
ROFLMAO Connie [banana] Is that Julia or June Cleaver?
Countess
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Is that Julia or June Cleaver?
OMG! It's so funny you said that 'cause while I was messing with the picture I was hearing the "Leave It To Beaver" theme music in my head and wishing there was a way to have it playing when people looked at the picture!! [lghy]
[nut]
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Being a fan of quentin collins
i think he gave the hottest kisses,they were so soft
and yummy :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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I often thought that Angelique's curse prevented Barnabas from making any moves on the good doctor. With the others, he only lost a lover; with Julia he stood to lose a lover AND a best friend - much higher stakes. Is he willing to gamble? Can he stand to live without her? This quandary would have made for an interesting storyline.
Actually, the issue of Julia and Angelique's curse is already a huge quandry in and of itself because the curse states that anyone who loves Barnabas would die - not necessarily anyone that he loved. Julia's love for Barnabas is quite evident, so by rights she should have died. Trying to justify why she didn't has provoked many interesting debates through the years.
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Actually, the issue of Julia and Angelique's curse is already a huge quandry in and of itself because the curse states that anyone who loves Barnabas would die - not necessarily anyone that he loved. Julia's love for Barnabas is quite evident, so by rights she should have died. Trying to justify why she didn't has provoked many interesting debates through the years.
Even Angelique died from the curse she placed on Barnabas, but she actually said the words I love you to Barnabas.
So in regards to Julia. I always thought that perhaps the curse had no effect on Julia because she never actually came right out and told Barnabas I love you.
Just a theory.
Although the real reason was that Dan Curtis wasn't about to kill Grayson Hall's Julia character off the show . Sam Hall talked about that in one of the DVD's interviews.
FireRose
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I don't know, in the Julia/Barnabas kiss .gif they he looks very uncomfortable, or is that the point??
BTW, I think I have read that when they were rehearsing love scenes on DS, Jonathan would say in rehearsal, and then we kiss here, right, instead of actually rehearsing the kiss. Still that technique did not hurt, especially in his kissing scenes with Lara and some with KLS.
I would say that to me the hottest kisses on DS were the two passionate ones between Barnabas and Angelique in 1795, and most of the Bramwell/Catherine kisses in 1841PT.
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Then there was that infamous kiss in 1795 between ex-lovers Barnabas and Angelique that started the decline and fall of Barnabas Collins.
I can't recall if there was another (last) kiss between them in 1840, though I want to remember it that way. Considering the circumstances, I imagine it would have been pretty passionate
Actually the last kiss between them was when Barnabas kissed his dead wife Angelique, it was a sweet, poignant, and oh, so sad kiss.
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Being a fan of quentin collins
i think he gave the hottest kisses,they were so soft
and yummy :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Ah! Finally a voice of reason. (amidst a plethora of Barnabas mumbo jumbo) 8)
Don't get me wrong - I love ole Barn. But his "kissing" can't compare to that of Quentin.... IMHO.
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oh my! one goes to seattle for a few days and see what erupts! I was originally gonna post. .it wasn't an official "kiss" but when Tom and Julia meet in the woods and then again in that crypt. . those were some fairly juicy scenes. . . And as Countess said. . i always wonder. .well Sam was the writer, Grayson was known for her off-b'way sexual antics. .how interesting NONE of Julia's characters got romance ..(Oh yeah Magda hugged Sandor and called him her Big Fat Hero but i think that was a grayson ad lib). .
And as to the other area this thread went to--I don't know if B & J would've ended up together. .Sam Hall's article notwithstanding. . Dan Curtis seemed to have definite ideas about the Julia Hoffman character. . .what Sam suggested, DC didn't follow suit, e.g. "killing off Julia". . DC flatly rejected that idea (or so we're told). .And was there more between them? I know there was a lot Grayson was projecting but honestly i've watched and since Frid had such difficulty with his lines, he missed some golden opportunities with projection and intention but there are moments when you know Julia means more than he's willing to say but is it that she's now like the sister he lost or something else? It's hard to dissect since Julia didn't interact with any other men in that way (other than TJ and there was the vampire complication which B would understandably object to)---so its fodder for discussion groups like this . .and elsewhere. I DO think there is room for discussion, i don't think is clear cut one way or the other---
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I haven't seen any "hot" kisses on Dark Shadows. Then again, I'm biased. Being from a generation of "90210" and "Melrose Place", how can I consider anything but the slutty, salacious kisses exchanged there "hot".
I always wanted to see John Karlen kiss, and when I finally did, I'm sad to say I was disappointed. The kisses I've seen thus far that he had with Nancy Barrett were very awkward. It's like they weren't on the same page. One of them even seemed as if Nancy was taking it a lot further than JK was willing to.
I haven't seen Barnabas and Josette kiss, but I'd like to. :) They could have been sweet as man and wife... if he hadn't cheated on her. :P ~DJ
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And as Countess said. . i always wonder. .well Sam was the writer, Grayson was known for her off-b'way sexual antics.
Whoa! Did I miss a dicsussion along the way Julia99? What sexual antics are you speaking about? >:D Details! I need details! Glad you're back from Seattle to shed some light on this subject. ;)
Countess
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that scene with Barnabas and Roxanne was damn intense. I thought they would go the floor the way they were making out.lol
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Joe and Maggie had the most realistic kisses I think. Kudos to Joel Crothers and Kathryn Leigh Scott, they really made you believe their characters were truly in love.
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I remember the kiss between Jeremiah (Anthony George) and Josette (Kathryn Leigh Scott) while being under Angelique's spell being very hot. I remember Natalie (Grayson Hall) watching this from the bushes and making so much noise I just lost it. Does anyone else remember this or am I suffering from faulty DS memory syndrome?
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You're not imagining things, bluefielder. That kiss between Jeremiah and Josette kissing with Natalie viewing it from the bushes did indeed happen.
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I personally think that David Selby gave the best kisses but I am biased. LOL I am not too fond of on screen kissing in those days. It was more like smooshing! However, I also do think Joel and KLS kisses were good. And again I think that David Selby gave good kisses. I sure wouldn't have minded a Q kiss! ;) I really also liked the kiss that he and CharPansy shared, at the end of "I Wanna Dance With You", it was nice. :) Not too smooshy! [easter_kiss]
I enjoyed the kissing between Jeremiah and Josette '91 very much! WHEW!
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I think the best smoocher is Quentin.
The absolute worst is faux Burke and Vickie. Watching their scenes together, one has a sense that the actors are way uncomfortable with one another. Every time I watch these scenes, I get the feeling that Alex Moltke is repulsed by Anthony, whatever the hell his name is.
I've recently read a bio on Jimmy Cagney and he said that Anthony George was a mess. It shows. I think he does a nice job as Jeremiah, but this actor doesn't hold a candle to Mitch Ryan's Burke.
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I agree JTW and I meant to mention that Alexandra looked repulsed and was not convincing at all. Did we ever get a kiss between Mitch and Alex???....I can't recall at the moment. A mess in what way???
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Did we ever get a kiss between Mitch and Alex???....I can't recall at the moment.
Yes
[spoiler]Shortly before she gets kidnapped by Matthew Morgan, Vicki is with Burke in his hotel room (I forget under what circumstances) and he grabs her by the shoulders and plants one on her. Vicki has no trouble going along with him at the time, but afterward, she gets very flustered and tells Burke that she can't see him anymore.[/spoiler] It's a nice culmination to the tension that's been building between them all year long.
ProfStokes
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When did Cagney and Anthony George cross paths?
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I'm not sure I found any of the kisses on the show hot. I always felt uncomfortable watching them as it looked like the actors were uncomfortable doing them.
Did anyone notice that as the series went along, all of a sudden, there was more kissing, hugging, etc. in the show? I wonder if DS felt they should add this because other soap operas were? That trend didn't seem to last long, though.
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Laura. [smrtasb]
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GROAN! VEDDY PUNNY! [ghost_tongue]
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JTW, that is a new one. What Jimmy Cagney bio are you referring to?