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Title: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: Nelson Collins on August 04, 2004, 02:09:32 PM
So, was Jeff really Peter Bradford transported forward in time?  Or was he a reincarnation of Peter?

I have not seen many episodes post 1795 with him and was wondering how or if it was ever explained.
Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: Midnite on August 04, 2004, 04:23:58 PM
So, was Jeff really Peter Bradford transported forward in time?  Or was he a reincarnation of Peter?

We're led to believe it's the former.

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was wondering how or if it was ever explained.

In #625 (and again in #626) Jeff went to the cemetery on his wedding day (romantic, no?), dug up Peter Bradford's grave, and found the coffin empty.

Robservations #625 - Wedding Day?

By #637 he had all the memories of Peter Bradford.  Before he exchanged vows with the Vicki wannabe he told her that marrying him would be like marrying a corpse.  Then when he was pulled back into the past, Jeff Clark's body went with him.

Robservations #637 - Mrs. Peter Bradford--or is that...

Somehow-- well, supposedly because of Vicki's love and his promise to her-- Peter, for a time (far too long as far as I'm concerned), lived again.
Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on August 04, 2004, 08:20:00 PM
So, was Jeff really Peter Bradford transported forward in time?  Or was he a reincarnation of Peter?

We're led to believe it's the former.

Very true. But then there's Prof. Stokes' stated belief in episode #660 that there was a real Jeff Clark, his body was possessed by Peter Bradford's spirit (presumably on that night that Clark was found wandering around with no memory of who he was), and when the spirit returned to its own time, the borrowed body was returned where it belonged. Stokes was sure that was true, so who knows?  (http://www.dsboards.com/dsb05/Smileys/idontknow.gif)
Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: Joeytrom on August 04, 2004, 08:53:59 PM
Perhaps the body Peter took in the present time was that of Ned Stuart?

Ned appeared on the scene a few weeks after Peter and Vicky left, so perhaps Ned "awakened" after Peter's spirit left him and took some recovery time before he was able to care for his sister Sabrina again.
Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: michael c on August 05, 2004, 12:23:49 AM
i'm now watching the post-1795 peter bradford eps.i really don't like him.he's not good enough for my sweet vic :-*.he seems unpopular with fans in general...why was the actor repeatedly brought back as other characters?contract?
Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: Joeytrom on August 05, 2004, 12:55:27 AM
i'm now watching the post-1795 peter bradford eps.i really don't like him.he's not good enough for my sweet vic :-*.he seems unpopular with fans in general...why was the actor repeatedly brought back as other characters?contract?

Dan Curtis liked him, so he kept bringing him back.  Having him play Ned Stuart in the present and then two characters in 1897 (Dirk Wilkins and Charles Delaware Tate) was a big thumbs down for me.  Charles Tate was introduced barely two weeks after Dirk was written out!
Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: Midnite on August 05, 2004, 01:01:00 AM
But then there's Prof. Stokes' stated belief in episode #660 that there was a real Jeff Clark, his body was possessed by Peter Bradford's spirit (presumably on that night that Clark was found wandering around with no memory of who he was), and when the spirit returned to its own time, the borrowed body was returned where it belonged. Stokes was sure that was true, so who knows?

I don't think we saw anybody telling Stokes about the empty coffin, but if it really was Peter's spirit possessing Jeff's body, why wasn't Peter's body in his grave?  (http://www.dsboards.com/dsb05/Smileys/hdscrt.gif)

Roger did suggest graverobbers.  Um, yeah, they must've been after the hair.  ;)
Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: Raineypark on August 05, 2004, 01:12:13 AM
Quote from: Midnite
  Um, yeah, they must've been after the hair.  ;)

 :P.... ::)
Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on August 05, 2004, 02:38:44 AM
but if it really was Peter's spirit possessing Jeff's body, why wasn't Peter's body in his grave?

That's a question that's way too logical for the DS writers to have ever considered.  (http://www.dsboards.com/dsb05/Smileys/wink2.gif)

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Roger did suggest graverobbers.  Um, yeah, they must've been after the hair.  ;)

That works for me. The robbers probably could have made at least three wigs with it.

Hmmm... That's it! That must be how it was done! The real Jeff Clark became possessed by Peter Bradford's spirit when poor Clark put on one of the Bradford wigs!!  (http://www.dsboards.com/dsb05/Smileys/haironend.gif)
Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: Midnite on August 05, 2004, 04:08:28 AM
The robbers probably could have made at least three wigs with it.

Hmmm... That's it! That must be how it was done! The real Jeff Clark became possessed by Peter Bradford's spirit when poor Clark put on one of the Bradford wigs!!  (http://www.dsboards.com/dsb05/Smileys/haironend.gif)

Ha ha, you're so wicked!
Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: Miss_Winthrop on August 05, 2004, 11:05:59 AM
Quote from: joeytrom
Dan Curtis liked him, so he kept bringing him back.  Having him play Ned Stuart in the present and then two characters in 1897 (Dirk Wilkins and Charles Delaware Tate) was a big thumbs down for me.  Charles Tate was introduced barely two weeks after Dirk was written out!

I'm know I'm in the minority here but I thought that the Charles Delaware Tate character was one of the most interesting. I wonder how he filled up his time between 1897 and 1970.
Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: Julian on August 05, 2004, 02:58:59 PM
Tate probably filled the years between 1897 and 1970 by painting uninspired landscapes.
Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: Devlin66 on August 05, 2004, 04:48:05 PM
......and did CDT ever fire his interior decorator after the curtain rod/shade fell off and hit the floor???

also.....tates creation......what a masterpiece!
Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: Patti Feinberg on August 05, 2004, 11:01:29 PM
Midnite wrote:
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the Vicki wannabe

and Patti laughed & laughed!!!

Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: Gerard on August 09, 2004, 03:12:58 PM
I think Jeff Clark and Peter Bradford were the same person, meaning that Peter Bradford never died.  He had to keep taking the bar exam over and over again for the next 170 years until he went bonkers from the effort.

Gerard
Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: jennifer on August 10, 2004, 07:53:56 PM
I think Jeff Clark and Peter Bradford were the same person, meaning that Peter Bradford never died.  He had to keep taking the bar exam over and over again for the next 170 years until he went bonkers from the effort.

heehee glad you are back Gerard anyway i say there is only one of them
because two is too scary a thought! :o
and what a fate for CDT, living that long pining for Amanda, now that is Hell!

jennifer
Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: Miss_Winthrop on August 11, 2004, 12:14:50 AM
Ah yes!  I recall something Julia repeated from what she had heard to the effect that CDT had been known for doing portraits.  But in the recent past years just painted the landscapes. Based on that I think that he had a successful career courtesy of Petofi for a short while after 1897.
Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: Marphisa on August 20, 2004, 12:18:28 PM
I'm pretty sure that Peter told Vicki right before he disappeared that he had borrowed Jeff Clark's body.  I never quite understood why the body vanished with Peter Bradford.
Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: Patti Feinberg on August 20, 2004, 01:17:32 PM
I never quite understood why the body vanished with Peter Bradford.


who cares...as long as it did!!!!

Patti ;D
Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: Midnite on August 20, 2004, 02:35:27 PM
Marphisa, it's wonderful to see you posting!
Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: Patti Feinberg on August 22, 2004, 02:06:58 AM
and now....he's back...as NED

Ned, oh Ned
Will he touch
His Head

(sorry....I need a vacation)

Patti
Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: IluvBarnabas on March 03, 2007, 06:55:26 PM
My least favorite RD characters:

Ned Stuart....the way he manhandled Sabrina was appalling. [spoiler]Plus the fact he was out for blood for Chris when he really didn't know what happened between him and Sabrina.[/spoiler]

Charles Delaware Tate.....started off decently enough but turned into a real jerk once he became [spoiler]so obsessed over Amanda and wanting to destroy Quentin by stealing his portrait (twice). Deserved to get his talent taken away by Petofi as far as I am concerned.[/spoiler]

I always thought [spoiler]Professor Stokes' explanation of Peter's inhabiting the body of Jeff Clark was the most sensible. Can't explain why there were no remains in Peter's coffin, though I guess we weren't meant to understand everything about the life and death and resurrection of Peter Bradford.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: Lydia on March 03, 2007, 07:22:32 PM
For nearly two centuries, people have been digging up graves in Collinsport at the drop of a hat, and yet nobody can understand why Peter Bradford's body isn't where it ought to be!
Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: Sunny_Collins on March 03, 2007, 07:58:27 PM
For nearly two centuries, people have been digging up graves in Collinsport at the drop of a hat, and yet nobody can understand why Peter Bradford's body isn't where it ought to be!

Lydia, too funny!  ;D
Title: Re: Jeff Clark / Peter Bradford ... huh?!?
Post by: loril54 on March 03, 2007, 10:28:23 PM
For nearly two centuries, people have been digging up graves in Collinsport at the drop of a hat, and yet nobody can understand why Peter Bradford's body isn't where it ought to be!

Maybe the people from Collinsport, should go down to the Bahamas.

Can you imagine the stuff going on in Collinsport in a 24 hour news.