DARK SHADOWS FORUMS
Members' Mausoleum => Games => Topic started by: Raineypark on March 20, 2002, 07:36:55 PM
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Okay, I'm going to assume that someone in this crowd is keeping the Official List of Annoying Anachronisms....cause, heck, we're so fond of tallying things!
Could we please add those irritatingly mid-20th Century suitcases to the list? Carpet bags, people! And canvas bags, and leather satchels...but not leather-look vinyl suitcases from the discount rack at E.J. Korvettes!!
Sorry, but watching poor delirious Barnabas stuffing his nightshirts and linen drawers into that thing just annoyed me. >:(
And if this has already been discussed before, well, as my brother who did 2 tours of duty in Vietnam is fond of saying about the Sixties..."I wasn't here for that."
Raineypark
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That patio chair looked strange-Did Vicky bring it from the 2oth Century?
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Great idea ;)
Let's see . . .
Zippers
Household staff with elaborate coiffures
Noticeably Victorian furniture
Young ladies traipsing off at all hours of the day or night unescorted who still retain the label of "ladies" (And I'm not thinking of Millicent here).
A certain afghan
Luciaphil
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Oh gawd......definitely that wretched afghan!! [lghy]
Raineypark
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OK Rainey, maybe this isn't EXACTLY an anchronism, however........
Now, you know I haven't seen these episodes in something over 30 years....No cable & the VCR is the thing that collects dust on top of the TV.....but I swear I remember sitting on the living room floor, in front of the black & white TV :o, and seeing that same shadow (no pun intended ;)) over Barnabus' face (the one in the 3rd pic from the left in today's montage) and remarking that it was the boom!
Am I right?
abbeymarch
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I don't know about the boom Abbey....you're asking me to remember a REALLY long time ago!!
Isn't all this color a little disconcerting if you've only ever seen DS in black and white?
Rainey
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In addition to overly coiffered servants...overly nice bedrooms for said servants...ie paintings on wall, nice linens (and MATTRESSES...NOT YET), brick-a-brack.
Our computers on the broken side.
Tommy needs to learn night from day.
Oyevah.
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Hang in there Patti.....
Before you know it you'll be telling us he needs to stop running around and take a nap!! ::)
Raineypark
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We havent seen this one yet, but keep an eye out for Barnabas' Wrist watch. It will appear toward the end of the flashback. When we get closer to this I'll poin it out, (dont wanna be a spoiler).
B
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In addition, for todays episode, shouldnt the doctor be suggesting blood letting to cure Barnabas??? If I recall my history, isnt blood letting the cure all treatment that was used on George Washington????
B
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Blood letting? Did you say blood letting?!!! :o
Holy Hannah, Allen....wouldn't that constitute the very LAST activity on earth they needed MORE of in Collinsport?
Sure, it would have been historically accurate, but can't you just see the actors falling on the floor and shrieking with laughter at THAT line?
But okay, we'll leave it on the list.... ;)
Raineypark, who assumed at the very beginning of this that someone ELSE was already keep this list!
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This sounds like a job for Theodoric of York, (and Broom Gilda) aside from the blood letting dont forget the leeches on the forehead.
B
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You know Allen we don't blood let anymore but we still use leeches in some forms of treatment Quite gross the first time you see it! ick :o
jennifer
Welcome back Patti my four year old doesn't know the
difference between night and day either ::) :
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Neither do my son 20 and daughter 18. Somethings just never change. Yes, I have children that old. Scary huh.
Birdie[crazd]
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Oh, I'm right behind you Birdie.....my daughter is 15 going on 25...and people wonder why my husband I were both completely grey by the time we were 40!!
Raineypark
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The thing that bothers me the most is that no one is surprised I have children that age. sob....
Somedays I feel younger than my oldest.
Somedays I feel older than my mother
Most days I seem to think I am 11 again and addicted to a certain show that came on at 4;00 p.m. in the afternoon, One I ran home to watch.
Birdie--who is a little freaked out when woman look at my son and I see them appreciating a good thing.
Raineypack, I also have a 13 year old who is going to put me over the edge and an 11 year old. What the h*** were we thinking. Oh ya, it must have been the bunnies
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Oh, I'm right behind you Birdie.....my daughter is 15 going on 25...and people wonder why my husband I were both completely grey by the time we were 40!!
Most of my friends that are my age have grandkids already while I have a daughter that is 19 and in college and after what happened over St. Pat's weekend, I'm glad that I color my hair! I'm sure I'm whiter than any mop top 18th century wig.
Carol
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And here I am, thinking it will easier when my daughter takes herself off to college....you know, out of sight, out of mind? I must BE out of my mind if I think it will be easier when I don't have a clue where she is and what she's doing.
I gave up coloring my hair when I got pregnant and never went back. Now Hubby and I have a perfectly matched set of white clouds up there. As he says, "I don't give a **** what color it is, so long as it stays up there!!
Maybe I should have posted this under "Hairlarious"!
Raineypark
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We really did get off topic. Apologies to all. One last thing, most of my friends have much yonger children. No one yet has become a Gram. Thank goodness it looks like it will be awhile for me. My daughter is looking into living in Boston this summber. It is killing me to keep my mouth shut.
Back to the subject on hand...
The petofi box that shows up in just about every room.
Sort of like the tissue box on the back of the couch that seems to be in every family photo we have.
Birdie--got to pack, I am off to Me. for the weekend with the "girls".
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A certain afghan
LOL! That thing travels through time more than Barnabas and Vicki put together!
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Back to the subject on hand...
The petofi box that shows up in just about every room.
Sort of like the tissue box on the back of the couch that seems to be in every family photo we have.
LOL! I was laughing when it was on the shelf behind Barnabas' head. I was thinking they should just use Count Petofi's hand to cure Barnabas!! No wonder Petofi was so tee'd off at the Collins family - they've had his hand since 1795!
:D
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I guess I'm not good enough to spot some of these anachronisms. I thought the genuine antique guns were a nice touch, though. Couldn't tell you whether or not they are authentic to this time period.
So they didn't have that kind of luggage in the 1790's? Not even really really rich families? :o
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No, Chris_2....not even very wealthy families who traveled extensively would have had suitcases like those...because they would have had to travel into the FUTURE to find them!
Hmmmm, are we sure Vicky wasn't holding that suitcase when the "switch" took place?
There's at least one member on this board who actually studied Fashion and Costume History....I'm going to have to nag her into commenting.
Raineypark
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I think some of the color combinations such as the chartruese door and the pinkish walls, must have had a paint sale on odd colors of paint. Let's just put it in the upstairs hallway where not one will see it but us.
I have a grandson who will be 22 in April. I have two daughters and a son. My baby is 28. The oldest daughter is 41.
Just thought I'd throw that in with the above discussion. You never get done being a parent.
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:o Oh my god Cocoa....NOW you tell me!! :o LOL
Raineypark
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How about that chair that sits against the secret panel door in the drawing room at Collinwood? Even after 200 years they still have it sitting there as I remember from the last storyline. Also that large dresser in Josette's new room over at Collinwood looks alot like the same one that Julia used to hide her diary from Barnabas in the last storyline. Another thing to mention is how everyone is always out visiting the grave yard during all hours of the night. It almost seems unheard of to go visit someone's grave during the day. :o
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Oh and another thing I forgot to mention is that chair that Barnabas had in his room at the old house, it's the same chair he uses in the modern day storyline in the drawing room of the old house. Can you imagine a piece of furniture lasting that long? With two teenagers and three cats Im lucky if mine lasts a year! :o
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My 18-year-old son first goes out at 10 PM, and often doesn't come home until one, two or three AM! I keep telling him he's becoming a vampire, and he calls out, "BARNABAS!", which is his way of teasing me about my DS obsession.
Blasted kid! I'm always up worrying about him, and it pisses me off!
As for annoying anachronisms, I know there are many and it's kind of fun to find them. DS wasn't especially detail oriented, and I'm sure very little historical research was done to ensure accuracy. Nevertheless, producing such a show every day must have been damn near impossible in the first place, and I give kudos to the cast and crew and even Dan Curtis for producing something awe-inspiring 5 days a week for nearly 5 years.
Love, Robin
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The furniture moving around from place to place, century to century, doesn't bother me. If that didn't happen, where would all the antiques we buy come from :)? Family heirlooms often stay in the place people remember them always being when they were growing up.
The pieces lasted because children weren't ALLOWED in the rooms where the really good stuff was kept. They didn't play in their rooms. If the family had any money there was a nursery, which was where all facets of a child's life took place, not just sleeping, until they were old enough to go to away to school, or for girls, get married.
If they didn't have money, they played in the street until they had to go to work.
As for the suitcases, I guess Orbach's wasn't stocking carpet bags or leather satchels at the time.
Think of a Dr.'s bag. That's what everyone who had to carry something used. The Dr.'s bag is a hold-over. Some were bigger or deeper, but essentially, that was it.
Unless you were going on a long journey, or had something very large, heavy, or valueable. Then you'd use a trunk.
Enough with the history lesson.
I do want to point out though ::), that Caroline's (I can't remember what her name was in this time period ?!?) hairdo is DEFINITELY a mid-twentieth interpretation of a mid-nineteenth century hairdo. It should have been pulled up with height in the straight part & the banana curls should have come from the nape.
OK! That's it! I promise!! ;D
abbeymarch
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Is that the same carpet on the stairs of the new house in 1795 and in 1968? The workmanship must be astounding. Carpet that last 200 years, gad. :o
Cocoa
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The first thing that came to my mind was the music in one of the PT storylines...it was supposed to be set the 19th century but the piano composition sounded more like something from a movie score from the 1940's. Sorry for the lack of detail but, I couldn't recall the exact storyline.
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The first thing that came to my mind was the music in one of the PT storylines...it was supposed to be set the 19th century but the piano composition sounded more like something from a movie score from the 1940's. Sorry for the lack of detail but, I couldn't recall the exact storyline.
You're probably thinking of "Joanna's Theme" which is actually from the Normal Time 1840 storyline, CastleBee. Although it is a beautiful piece, it certainly was historically out-of-place. It was eventually used as the theme music for the movie "Night of Dark Shadows," a very film noir type of melody.
My gripe with the 1840 plot was Gabriel's wheelchair. Although it had an old-fashioned-looking wicker back, the rest of it was modern, with rubber wheels and glistening aluminum hand grips. Obviously, the props man took a regular wheelchair and replaced the seat, leaving the rest of the contraption. Either that, or Blanche Hudson's wheelchair somehow tumbled down the time-travel staircase and old Ben Stokes found it, figuring with a few mid-nineteenth-century replacement parts, it would work for sad, handicapped Gabriel.
Gerard
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This is interesting as my Mother and I were watching some 1840 just a few days ago and remarking on all kinds of things but all I can remember is the visible light bulbs and lamp cords, oh and the very later period paintings hanging about the house.
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You're probably thinking of "Joanna's Theme" which is actually from the Normal Time 1840 storyline, CastleBee. Although it is a beautiful piece, it certainly was historically out-of-place. It was eventually used as the theme music for the movie "Night of Dark Shadows," a very film noir type of melody.
Yes, that's got to be the one. I liked the music too even though it was out of sync with the times...of course, as a kid, I never would have noticed.
Another thing...weren't there a lot of zippers holding those 18th and 19th century gowns together too? Also some clothing styles that may have fit the actors better than the period they were supposed to be living in?
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Another thing...weren't there a lot of zippers holding those 18th and 19th century gowns together too?
Reply #2 ;)
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Ahhh, drat - I knew I heard that somewhere! (I actually did read the whole thread, just have a bad memory I guess!)
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i never noticed this "game" before.
yes the household servants in 1795 were rather elaborately coiffed...not to mention the abundance of false eyelashes going around. ::)
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i never noticed this "game" before.
It was buried on the Current Talk '02 I board. But I'm in the process of moving several of the games that were posted on the older boards (before this section of the forum even existed) so that they might be rediscovered. :)
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There was also an abundance of mascara, blush and lipstick going on when that stuff didn't exist. But, it wouldn't really do to give up everything for the sake of realism would it? :-*
(Sorry if that was covered elsewhere but, I skimmed over the thread and didn't see it.)
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