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Title: Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: coterie-mc on February 14, 2004, 02:52:39 AM
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4287775863    Hope this works...These are some of my DS collectiable' pictures I have on Imaginestation. I will be adding more soon. -robert
Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: Midnite on February 14, 2004, 03:01:44 AM
coteriemc, there's no need to use the ftp tags, and actually they're not for creating links.  You can type the url without any tags, or use these
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[url][/url]Thanks!  :)
Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: coterie-mc on February 14, 2004, 03:07:50 AM
Thank you again Midnite, hope you can view the pictures.   BTW you did an awesome job on my avatar, looks great.
Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: Midnite on February 14, 2004, 03:51:26 AM
It's GREAT stuff!  Nice pictures, too.  I went the slide show route.  :)
Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: coterie-mc on February 14, 2004, 04:03:06 AM
Thats the best way to view them Midnite, Its a pretty good site for downloading and saving pictures. plus its free,  I must have well over 200 photos stored.  I will be adding more collectiable pictures as well as the ones I took of  "collinwood"  in 1993, over the weekend. 
Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: dom on February 14, 2004, 04:05:39 AM
Thanks for sharing a look-see of some of your collection, Robert. There is a lot of stuff in your photo album I've never seen before, it was a real treat!
Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 14, 2004, 03:21:21 PM
Some wonderful stuff there, Robert.  :)

Re: the Italian hoDS posters - I've always hated how some of the movie's publicity materials gave away too many important plot points, like the posters depicting Stokes as a vampire and Willie getting shot by the arrow. Sheesh! Talk about ruining things for the audience.  :(
(But then, the worst offender is probably the hoDS trailer that manages to give away EVERY surprise (it's available on the laserdisc). Whoever put that one together had to have been a complete idiot!!)

One thing that never ceases to amaze me is how so many pieces of DS memorabilia have incresed in value. For example: back in September of 1973 I bought the hods and Nods pressbooks for $2.75 each and the full set of lobbycards for $5.50 each from a place called The Cinema Attic (which is sadly no longer in business) in Philadelphia and I've seen those things go for as much as 60 times that!! If I'd only been smart enough to grab up every piece of DS memorabilia I could get my hands on instead of buying only one peice of each, I might be a millionaire now if I'd become a dealer instead of a collector purely for my own enjoyment.  [lghy]
Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: Raineypark on February 14, 2004, 03:50:56 PM

If I'd only been smart enough to grab up every piece of DS memorabilia I could get my hands on instead of buying only one peice of each, I might be a millionaire now if I'd become a dealer instead of a collector purely for my own enjoyment.  [lghy]

.... I see you demanding a home-visit and several affidavits of good character before parting with any of your collection, no matter HOW many items you had.  You wouldn't be rich, Pepe, you'd be tripping over the stuff!  ;)
Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 14, 2004, 04:07:45 PM
As shocking as you might find it, Rainey, back in the '90s I actually sold several pieces of my extra DS stuff on eBay - duplicate sets of the pink and green card sets (which netted me $400 and $350, respectively), a duplicate set of the 1897 posters ($225), a set of 30 of the Ross novels ($180), a few items from the 1968 DS fan club - the book cover, a sheet of Barnabas stamps, and a calendar ($150), the empty boxes for the pink and green card sets ($100), a set of Quentin postcards ($70), and a set of wrappers from the pink, green and 1897 poster sets ($60). All told, a nifty sum of $1,535 - about a 5,280% profit!!  (It paid nicely to get in before the current glut of DS merchandise became available on eBay.  :))

No home-visits or affidavits of good character were required. [lghy]

But I would NEVER sell anything that wasn't a duplicate of something that I already had.  ;)
Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: coterie-mc on February 16, 2004, 09:54:13 AM
Mysterious Benefactor, where was I when you were selling this stuff!!!  Wow..those gum card box's were hard to come by back then.  i would have probably given you my entire paycheck for one.  no kidding, i payed $450 for a full box of Quentin postcards. and those Italian posters...i won't even get into what i pay for them.
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Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 16, 2004, 12:48:36 PM
Mysterious Benefactor, where was I when you were selling this stuff!!!

Were you online back in 1997?

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Wow..those gum card box's were hard to come by back then.

Believe it or not, the card boxes I sold had been sitting in my mom's house at the bottom of my old wardrobe since the late '60s. They were covered by an ESP game and some '70s issues of Rolling Stone magazine, all of which were protected by a bunch of shirts that I hadn't worn in more than 20 years - and wouldn't be caught dead in today!  [lghy]

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i would have probably given you my entire paycheck for one.  no kidding

Well, too bad you missed out. Too bad for both of us, actually, because I might have made a lot more money on the deal and you might have saved some.  [b003]


Interestingly, we might have actually crossed paths because in one of your earlier posts you mentioned that the 1989 NY Fest was the last one you've attended and that was the first one I ever attended. If you were at the Red Zone party, then we most probably would have at least seen each other because I think there were just about 250 fans there that night.  ;)

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i payed $450 for a full box of Quentin postcards.

Whoa!!  [shockeyes]

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and those Italian posters...i won't even get into what i pay for them.

If you bought them back in the DS Collectibles days (rather than online) I can just imagine what you paid. Some of the prices were ridiculously astronomical back then!!
Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: Gerard on February 17, 2004, 03:06:46 AM
I don't know what makes the David Selby cards more collectible and nostalgic - the fact that they're Dark Shadows cards, or they have the word "groovy".  We'll have to watch for cards from the '91 series with "rad" emblazoned across the box.

Gerard
Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: coterie-mc on February 17, 2004, 06:05:01 AM
Mysterious  Benefactor,  I did not go to the 1989 DS Red Zone party, I believe that was held the night before the festival.  i went to the festival on saturday, thats when we found out  that MPI was releasing DS on video . also remember that Roger Davis wasn't on the news flyer the festival sent me, but he showed up anyways with Marie Wallace.  they spent time talking to everybody that was in line waiting to go in. 
Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 17, 2004, 02:18:49 PM
also remember that Roger Davis wasn't on the news flyer the festival sent me, but he showed up anyways with Marie Wallace.  they spent time talking to everybody that was in line waiting to go in.

Well, we still may have crossed paths because I was waiting in line for the doors to open that morning. (Don't remind me about RD, but) I had a nice moment with Marie. During the Red Zone party I'd spent about 20 minutes talking with her about everything from DS to her time on Somerset as socialite India Delaney. When Marie spotted me in the line she greeted me as if I was some long lost friend. It was both flattering and a bit embarrassing because people were like "Who the hell is he?"  [lghy]  But from what I've observed through the years, that's just Marie's way - unless maybe they're some crazed stalker, whenever she comes across almost any fans that she knows, she seems to always treat them as if they're her long lost friends. :)

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I did not go to the 1989 DS Red Zone party

As for the Red Zone party, it's too bad you didn't attend. I realize that I might be prejudiced because it was the first Fest event that I ever attended, but it was an incredible experience. A night of drinking and dancing in the old DS studio, complete with about 10 DS stars who were willing to make themselves completely available to fans. Fans weren't herded through autograph lines with, at best, 3 minutes to talk to each star. The stars and fans mingled, talked, danced, and drank completely as one group. As much fun as I've had at other Fest events, for me it was an experience that's never been equalled...
Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: Raineypark on February 17, 2004, 02:50:17 PM
Sorry....have to ask......what does "Red Zone" refer to?
Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 17, 2004, 06:29:00 PM
Taken directly from the 1989 NY Fest flyer:

DARK SHADOWS STUDIO PARTY
Begin the Festival weekend by celebrating the magic of DARK SHADOWS at a private party to be held at the original DARK SHADOWS ABC-TV Studio 16 in Manhattan, starting at 7:00 pm on Friday September 1. The special evening will include a buffet, DS music videos, appearances by DS stars, dancing, pay bar, and a tour of the studio, converted in a nightclub. The cost is only $25 per person.[/b]


And here's an excerpt from Jeff Thompson's 1989 Fest report, "The TV studio, the stars, and Collinwood itself! THE ULTIMATE DARK SHADOWS FESTIVAL," which appeared in the Winter/Spring issue of The Houston Dark Shadows Society newsletter:

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The fun began on the evening of Friday, September 1, when 250 well-dressed fans gathered at the old ABC Studio 16, located between West 53rd and West 54th Streets and between 9th and 10th Avenues in Manhattan. Twenty years ago, at least one major "Dark Shadows" star lived rather close to the studio. The cavernous studio building is still there, but the interior has benn converted into a nightclub! The place is called the Red Zone and offers music, dancing, and refreshments nightly from 10:00 PM to 4:00 AM. Not quite as nocturnal as the nightcrawling vampires who populated our favorite show, we fans partied at the Red Zone from 7:00 to 10:00. With us were costume designer Mary McKinley Hass, cameraman Nick Besink, and eight of the most popular stars of "Dark Shadows": Terrayne Crawford (Beth Chavez), Roger Davis (Peter Bradford), Jonathan Frid (Barnabas Collins), Diana Millay (Laura Collins), Lara Parker (Angelique Collins), Kathryn Leigh Scott (Josette DuPres), Sharon Smyth (Sarah Collins), and Marie Wallace (Jenny Collins). The stars looked dazzling in their partygoing finery; one actress looked especially gorgeous.
The building, with lights and machinery hanging from the high ceiling, still looks like a television studio in some ways. The loading dock, however, has become a stage with a bar in front of it. The large, flat area where the Collinwood set and the many other sets once stood is the dance floor. Upstairs, the rehearsal hall and dressing rooms have become a bar which overlooks the dance floor. In the time between "Dark Shadows'" occupation of ABC Studio 16 and its transformation into the Red Zone, the studio was home to "Particular Men," "The Great American Dream Machine," "Ryan's Hope," and several news and music programs.
During the party, we fans and the stars mingled on both levels of the old studio, and several fans danced to the late-1960s music and occasional "Dark Shadows" songs which blasted from the Red Zone's sound system. Eight huge screens above the dance floor continually flashed colorful slides of the "Dark Shadows" stars, mansions, cast lists, and memorabilia. At one point, video crewman Nick Besink, who had worked on "Dark Shadows" in 1970 and 1971, gave an extremely informative talk about what the building had been like when it had housed "Dark Shadows." Besink pionted out where various important sets, such as Collinwood and the mausoleum, had been located on what was now the dance floor.
Kathryn Leigh Scott then pointed out to everyone where the sets of Maggie's cottage and The Blue Whale had been. Privately, Kathryn remarked to a small group of fans, "When I first walked in, I knew I was in the old studio, but everything else looks different." Many such private conversations between the stars and fans transpired at the Red Zone that night, and this was the magic of the party. We fans were mingling freely with the stars, taking pictures with them, and getting to know them in a setting more relaxed and intimate than that of the Festival autograph lines. Indeed, one California fan told me, "This is the most accessible the stars have ever been."
...


Here's a scan of the souvenir ticket for the night (some of the stars listed were unable to attend - if only RD had been one of them  [b003]):

(http://www.dsboards.com/images/ticket.jpg)

And here's a photo of the event that was published in the Fests' Dark Shadows Festival Memory Book 1983-1993:

(http://www.dsboards.com/images/party.jpg)

People who know me *might* be able to spot me there in the crowd  [wink2],  but the rest of you will just have to take my word for it that I'm there because, after all, I *AM* "mysterious" and I'm not about to point myself out!  [lghy]


(It's also probably worth mentioning that the Red Zone didn't stay in business for very long, and after it closed the building was once again turned back into a studio. The first tenant was an ABC late night talk show called "Last Call," which might have lasted two years, if even that long. And as most fans know the building is currently used for the Montel Williams Show.)   
Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: coterie-mc on February 17, 2004, 08:51:32 PM
Thanks for sharing the pictures, sounds like it was a fun party, i wonder who Jeff Thompson was talking about when he said  "One actress looked especially gorgeous"...was it maybe Angelique or KLS???  I had to work late that friday night, so early the next morning a friend and I drove from Boston to the Vista, we got there around 7 am, 3 long hours before they opened the festival doors. yes you are right about Marie Wallace, when she came in I  remember how she was relating to some of the other fans waiting in line, I did not know who Roger Davis was at the time, and I thought he was another fan that was just trying to cut to the head of the line. then when we met Ann Wilson at the registration table, we got the RD bio sheet.  I will post a picture of myself in the Imagestation photo album,  maybe we did meet way back then...wouldn't that be strange?? ***ok I just posted two pic's. one from 1984 when i was in the service and another taken in 92. don't have any from 89.
Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 17, 2004, 09:32:07 PM
i wonder who Jeff Thompson was talking about when he said  "One actress looked especially gorgeous"...was it maybe Angelique or KLS???

I *think* he was referring to KLS.

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I did not know who Roger Davis was at the time, and I thought he was another fan that was just trying to cut to the head of the line. then when we met Ann Wilson at the registration table, we got the RD bio sheet.

That's right - I completely forgot that they'd also inserted RD's bio sheet into the Festival program book. I was practically accosted by him later that Saturdfay as he was handing out autographed copies of his sheet, and that's the one I still have. I have absolutely no idea what I did with the other one.

(The signed copy is posted here:
... (and you've got to know that it's one of my MOST TREASURED possessions) ...
he said facetiously...)

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I will post a picture of myself in the Imagestation photo album,  maybe we did meet way back then...wouldn't that be strange??

We may have.  ;)  But you know what is interesting - we live only about 50 miles from each other. I can't believe how many members of this forum live in Boston or the surrounding area. I think we could hold our own mini-Fest one day.  :D
Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: Gerard on February 18, 2004, 07:11:15 PM
Was that 1989 souvenier tiecket designed by Ed Gorey, Mysterious Benefactor?  It certainly looks like his artwork.  He is one of my absolutely favorite illustrators.  One can see a sample of it in the opening credits for PBS' Mystery.  He's done quite a few books, including a wonderful anthology called Hauntings:  Tales of the Supernatural.  He also designed the sets for the Broadway Frank Langella version of Dracula back in the '70's.

Gerard
Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: Raineypark on February 18, 2004, 09:19:56 PM
On the "Goreyography" site, one of the publishers listed for Gorey items is none other than Pomegranate Press!

It always comes back to DS, doesn't it? [lghy]
Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 18, 2004, 10:00:02 PM
Was that 1989 souvenier tiecket designed by Ed Gorey, Mysterious Benefactor?  It certainly looks like his artwork.

You know, I don't know. The ticket's artwork isn't signed - or if it is, I can't see it. I don't recall ever hearing that Gorey designed the ticket. But who knows?

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He is one of my absolutely favorite illustrators.  One can see a sample of it in the opening credits for PBS' Mystery

Yes, I love the credits for Mystery.
Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 18, 2004, 10:05:23 PM
On the "Goreyography" site, one of the publishers listed for Gorey items is none other than Pomegranate Press!

I could be wrong, but I think the Pomegranate Press that prints the Gorey bookmarks and such is a different company. It has a completely different Web site (http://www.pomegranate.com) from KLS' company (http://www.pompress.com), they're each located in completely different cities in CA, and KLS' company is named Pomegranate Press, LTD. But who knew there could be two companies with such close names? It seems like people could easily mistake them for each other.  :-
Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: coterie-mc on February 18, 2004, 10:18:09 PM
That  would be pretty neat, if they held a mini-festival here in New England, number one spot would be no other place but Salem.  maybe Trask (Jerry Lacy), could host a special DS trolly ride around the different locations with the DS theme music playing......
Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: Raineypark on February 18, 2004, 10:36:48 PM
But who knew there could be two companies with such close names?

How odd.....years ago, my husband and I filed papers to incorporate a business here on Long Island, and were denied our first choice name because another, completely different type of business had the name already.....in Buffalo, NY!

I guess the rules are different in California.... ::)
Title: Re:Dark Shadows Collectiables
Post by: dom on February 18, 2004, 11:15:34 PM
Everything is different here in California.  ;)

dom