And until 1840, Sam & Gordon were very careful to respect events in the show's history as they affected different stories.
There's just no reason why the show's last week could not have been used to tie up loose ends instead of listening to Bramwell/Catherine's/Morgan's boring, plotless, unrelated to the rest of the show crap about how tormented they were.
But that's exactly my point...if we don't know how much notice they were given, and how much time they had left before the last episode was shown, we don't KNOW that there was "no reason". The "reason" could simply have been a lack of time and budget to re-write and re-shoot enough episodes to tie everything up the way we might have liked.
Three months was enough time, but they just didn't care.
Sad but true!
Ending the show in 1841PT has got to be the most unsatisfying ending of a show in TV history.
You know, I had stoped watching DS by the time 1841PT was in full swing.
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And Barnabas is soon to stairway his way back . .now, uh wait. .isn't his body already in 1971 . .how are 2 gonna be merged?
You know, I had stoped watching DS by the time 1841PT was in full swing. I had read in TV guide that the last episode would be airing and I made it a point to watch that last show. It was awful tuning in to bid the cast farewell and not having a clue as to whom anyone was or what the hell was going on. So for me, yes, I agree, it was thee most unsatisfying finale of a TV show in the history of television. And I felt the same way after watching the complete series on video in the 90s.
I imagine this would be a hugely inappropriate time to admit I stopped watching right around the time that annoying ghost Quentin showed up.....[vryevl]
And one of my favorite examples is how Jamison/Petofi and Aristede managed to find the Collins Family History book in 1897, despite the fact that Eve/Danielle Roget travelled back to 1796, brought it forward to 1968, and gave it to Vicki as a wedding gift. Not only did Eve/Danielle remove the book at a point in history prior to 1897 - but it had also been removed at a point in DS' own storyline timeline prior to the 1897 storyline taking place, so we can't even argue that Eve/Danielle may not have travelled back to 1796 prior to what we saw in 1897.
And I'm sure someone has probably mentioned it before, but where did Judah get a psychedelic compositon/theme book to use as his journal in the 1680's?
He had it custom made?
At "Judah's Head Shop" :D
I could swear I've used that line before
It must have only been in your own, uh, head. [wink2]
Stop! You're killing me! I almost laughed my head off!!!
There is a great deal I like about 1840 but the witchcraft trial is absolutely ludicrous. You have a dynamic talent like David Selby and you put him in a plot where he is confined to a jail cell and a court room where he can only shout No! That's not true! etc., etc. Not a very good use of your cast. And I'm sure someone has probably mentioned it before, but where did Judah get a psychedelic compositon/theme book to use as his journal in the 1680's?
Agree that the courtroom scenes are often gripping, but I do wonder on what planet any judge would allow the defendant's attorney to be called to the stand as a witness for the prosecution? Highly improbable, and likely grounds for a big fat mistrial.
Not that I don't like 1840, I do - just think it gets messy from here on out. But the witchcraft trial is ludicrous, not just for the reason above. Also in the sense that it takes place in the middle of the nineteenth century. That just strains credulity. Even the trial of Victoria Winters for sorcery in 1795 is several decades later than any American witchcraft trials of which I'm aware.
Agree that the courtroom scenes are often gripping, but I do wonder on what planet any judge would allow the defendant's attorney to be called to the stand as a witness for the prosecution? Highly improbable, and likely grounds for a big fat mistrial.
What bothers me is that this particular court seems to pick and choose which civil rights they'll respect. For example, they honor Quentin's Sixth Amendment right to be represented by counsel, but then they defy the Fifth Amendment by forcing Desmond to provide testimony that ultimately incriminates himself. So does this court operate according to the US Constitution or not? It's just a big jumbled mess to me.
but how many TV trials or even movies are all that accurate -- or even realistic -- when it comes to trial scenes? ::)
Although Desmond was not on trial, so he couldn't really be said to be incriminating himself.
It was more like an impromptu hearing -- interrupting Quentin's trial -- to supposedly see if there was a conflict of interest with Desmond representing Quentin.
but how many TV trials or even movies are all that accurate -- or even realistic -- when it comes to trial scenes? ::)
I think a simple google search on "self-incrimination" would provide you with evidence to the contrary.
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Realism and accuracy went out the window when this became a witchcraft trial.
, the most unbelievable thing of all.....a Mistress of the Mansion who hasn't gone out shopping for 20 years!!! ::)
Unfortunately, the dressmaker was Oscar de la Orhbachs.
No attempt at explaining how the above mentioned inconsistencies affected 1897 or the modern dress stories. No attempt at wrapping up loose ends or even saying goodbye to beloved characters.
I understand that they all felt a need to move on by 1971. So end the story properly & move on.
But the show's last 3 months give me the sinking feeling that no one involved gave a shit anymore, and that neither Frid, Curtis, Sam or Gordon had enough respect for the audience to wrap things up before calling it quits.
Ending the show in 1841PT has got to be the most unsatisfying ending of a show in TV history.
Am I being to harsh?
I think a simple google search on "self-incrimination" would provide you with evidence to the contrary.
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No, he was called as a witness for the State to provide evidence that Quentin was possessed. As a result of his testimony he was arrested and charged with witchcraft.
I thought Ben was fairly complementary overall to these trial scenes, writing from a professional legal perspective.
OH yeah, the most unbelievable thing of all.....a Mistress of the Mansion who hasn't gone out shopping for 20 years!!![/font] ::)
What killed me was that supposedly pre-Mrs. Johnson, the Collinses all did their own housework.
Not used at all were Tom Happer, James Storm, Gene Lindsey, David Henesy (who had left the show, but we did not know that at the time), Michael Stroka, Donna Wandrey (who may have been dismissed from the show - I am not sure), and Lee Beery.
You're right, of course. I don't think there were many -- or possibly any -- witch trials in America after Salem in 1692.
As it's been pointed out, the trip to 1840 should have altered the present day drastically.
Barnabas could have remained behind in 1840 to live out his natural life with Angelique while Julia alone returned to 1971, upon which she would find an entirely different Collins clan living at Collinwood. Frid could have played a descendant of Barnabas.