DARK SHADOWS FORUMS
General Discussions => Current Talk Archive => Current Talk '25 I => Current Talk '02 I => Topic started by: dsannabelle on March 10, 2002, 07:13:34 AM
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I can't help it. I have fallen in love with the old house.
Before Vicki found herself back in 1795 all we ever saw
of the old house was the Drawing Room, Josette's
room, the basement and the secret room where
Matthew held Vicki hostage.
Now we get to see all those bedrooms, the Den/Study/
Library (I'm not sure what they call) and even a
hall way. The wonderful Federation colors they have
used in the house are marvelous.
If it only had electricity and modern plumbing I would
move in tomorrow. I just love it.
I remember a survey that we ran last fall, I believe, as
to which house (the old or the new) we like the best.
My vote now is on the old house. What do you think?
Annabelle
Has anybody else noticed that the bookcase that
served as a door to the secret room where Matthew
kept Vicki prisioner has now disappeared :o
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I have to agree... I was thinking that the other day. It's too bad that they didn't show more of it when they weren't in 1795.
It would have been nice to see if Willy had actually fixed up some of the other rooms besides the drawing room and Josette's.
deron :)
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My vote goes with the Old House...I too love the decor...It is enchanting with the secret room behind the bookcase,
full of ghosts, etc. :o
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Please....I'd rather the Evans' Cottage over either Collins house.
I'd much prefer that wall of windows with all that light, to a house that I'd require a map to negotiate my way around. And the french doors in the bedroom are lovely.
I wouldn't even mind if Sam left his paintings behind...just so long as they took that gosh-awful quilt afghan!!
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I vote for Collinwood! love to be in a house where I can say" I"ll be in the West Wing if you are looking for me"
also the space!!!!!!!!!!A room just for all my shoes!!!
jennifer
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Call me conventional, but I don't think I would like to live somewhere where I had to be concerned about accidentally stepping into a room or on a staircase where I could be transported through a transdimensional portal.
Beside, the taxes would be a killer.
If I had to pick between the Old House and Collinwood, I would choose the former. Of course, I would get rid of that disgusting wall color in the downstairs. Install electricity, plumbing, heating. I would keep some of the furniture--I am in love with the bureau in Vicki's bedroom and that secretary in the drawing room is lovely, but most of it would be at the auction house pronto--Josette's painting and the delicate French stuff would be among them (sorry, but I like furniture you can live with).
And I would reglaze the windows ASAP (if only so that nosy people couldn't hear my every word ;))
But if I could choose from any house in town, maybe Mark would let me share the Evans Cottage. It too needs some redecorating, but it looks manageable, good light, the French doors, etc. But I agree with Mark--the afghan needs to go 8).
Luciaphil
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But if I could choose from any house in town, maybe Mark would let me share the Evans Cottage. It too needs some redecorating, but it looks manageable, good light, the French doors, etc. But I agree with Mark--the afghan needs to go 8).
Luciaphil, I think you're confusing the poster Raineypark with Mark Rainey, though the names have made me do a double take once or twice too. ;)
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Yeah, I get confused too. My eye detects a "Rainey" in the post, and I think, "Wait, I didn't write that -- or did I? Am I feeling beside myself?"
I've met two other Raineys in my life who weren't related to me. And I suspect if I searched back far enough there might indeed have been a family tie with one of them.
The other one, who definitely wasn't related, was named Stephen A. Rainey, and he lived two apartments down from me for a couple of years. The poor mailman just about had to be hauled away to the nuthouse after trying to sort our mail.
When Peg and I went to buy a house, a search for my name and address revealed that a Stephen Rainey at our address owed $13,500 in back taxes and credit was refused.
Yes...it was the OTHER one.
So I had to sign a notarized affidavit that I was a different Rainey, with a different social security number, a different wife, and an altogether different haircut in order to clear my credit.
Oh, and I read a news story a while back that there was a Rainey on death row here in North Carolina for multiple murder. That's not me, either.
There was a Mark Rainey on the TV show Barnaby Jones back in the 70s. He was also a criminal. He was not me.
[shadow=red,left,300]--Mark[/shadow]
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Oh, and PS:
Personally, I would live at Collinwood rather than the Evans cottage. While it's a nice place, there's not enough room for many ghosts. Being an old softy when it comes to putting up wandering souls from the afterlife, I'd just have to go with the bigger property.
[shadow=green,left,300]--Mark[/shadow]
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Luciaphil, I think you're confusing the poster Raineypark with Mark Rainey, though the names have made me do a double take once or twice too. ;)
Ack, my mistake! Well, perhaps Raineypark wouldn't mind me sharing the Evans Cottage ;D
Luciaphil
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Sigh.....I knew this was going to happen as soon as I saw Mark Rainey's name. My apologies, as I am REALLY a newbie to this forum, and I suspect that Mark Rainey is not.
My last name is not Rainey, so Mr. Rainey and I are not related.
I would be curious, though, to know if he's related to the family that donated the land in Queens, NY that is known as Rainey Park.
And no, I wouldn't mind sharing the Evans Cottage...we could set it up kind of like a time share.....
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I would be curious, though, to know if he's related to the family that donated the land in Queens, NY that is known as Rainey Park.
Not as far as I know, Raineypark. All my forebears came to America via Georgia, and the bulk of them have remained in the south. Certainly there are exceptions, and there are probably branches of the family that I'm not aware of.
I have been searching, so far in vain, for some heretofore unknown, decidedly wealthy branch that might have moved to Maine way back when and built a nice gothic mansion they're just dying to leave me in their wills. So far, no such luck. But I'll keep searchin'.
[shadow=red,left,300]--Mark[/shadow]
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Well, Mark, the Rainey family that donated the park was indeed very wealthy. But more than that I can't tell you.
You might want to broaden your search to Queens County, NY. The particular area might be called Astoria, Long Island City, or Ravenswood.
The park's been called Rainey for at least 60 years, and probably much longer...unless they've changed it in the last few days and forgot to notifiy me personally....I don't live in the area anymore.
Sorry again for the name confusion. Hopefully the 'regulars' will have no trouble telling us apart soon.
Raineypark
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Raineypark, there's absolutely nothing for you to apologize for! And a belated welcome to you. [okb]
I'd choose Collinwood over any of the others. I say that without hesitation because I fall in love with the Carey mansion (aka Seaview) all over again with each visit.
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Well, I do love to see this brought up. I too love to see the new old house. For a long time I thought it was a one bedroom mansion! Then we finally saw Willy's bedroom. So, I am enjoying a more extended glimpse of it too. One question does come up for me, if we are to see the family leave the Old House soon and noone lived in it in between, then WHERE did the wallpaper come from? That which is old and peeling off the wall in modern times.
I guess I would have to choose Collinwood, but it is a tough choice. I just like the thought of a place so large that entire wings get not only shut off, but forgotten entirely for long periods of time. ;D
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I'll tell you what house I'd really love the deed to: the Lyndhurst Estate!
I have family in that town, and grew up sneaking onto the property...tho I never got inside until I was a grown-up.
We didn't find out they were shooting a DS movie there until it was all over, and I was inconsolable for weeks!
I understand there are Halloween events there...but if you live in the area, and really want to see it at it's best, go at Christmas time!
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I have to say I would love to live in the "Old House", if I had the money to keep it looking old and have all the conviences of the new house I live in now. Of course, I would have to have the antiques that goes along with it. My true goal is life is to be able to buy anything I want to in the anitique stores I like to stroll through. My mother has a lot of nice pieces. In fact sometimes when watching I see stuff I have grown up with the Empire Bureaus that they seem to have in just about every bedroom. I have one in my family room that my older sister just about ruined with all the moves they made as a Navy family. I also love the paneling in the bedrooms. It most definitly is my style. I can't say that I have as much in my home as I would like.
I love old houses. I also feel fairly lucky that I have had the opportunity to at least walk around "Seaview Terrace". It amazes me that for years I didn't know the "Collinwood" was in Newport. A place that we manage to go to fairly often. In fact I told the family it was time for another visit soon.
Birdie
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Birdie
Going to Newport School vac in april maybe I'll see you there I'll be the one with the Rex sox cap pulling her son off the sea walls there.He thinks he is a Power Ranger and jumps off things!! :ohe is only 4
jennifer
(I came across Rt 6 last summer to go to RI and saw an old roller coaster that was once Lincoln Park Looked like a ghost town did you ever go there? :'(
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(I came across Rt 6 last summer to go to RI and saw an old roller coaster that was once Lincoln Park Looked like a ghost town did you ever go there? :'(
Jennifer,
I don't know about Birdie, but I used to go to Lincoln Park all the time as a kid. It was only about 5 miles from where I lived back then, and I live less than 4 miles from there now. Sometimes when I have to go to North Dartmouth (pronounced North Dotmeth by most locals ;) ), I'll take Rt 6 rather than Rt 195 because it's usually quicker, and when I pass by Lincoln Park I can't believe what it looks like now compared to what it used to be like 30 years ago. There used to be three really poplular amusement parks around back then (Lincoln Park, Crescent Park and Rocky Point) and all three of them have since closed. Sad really.
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Mike I know it might sound silly to feel bad about seeing a broken down roller coaster but it did seem so sad to see it covered with debris and forgotten.we did have a lotta fun there!!!the funny thing i would never get on it now! :o
jennifer
you must live near the ocean Love it down there!!
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Jennifer and Mike,
I also went to Lincon Park. I high school I belong to the C.Y.C. and we had several trips down to Horseneck Beach and than to Lincon Park. One time I remember having a terrible sunburn and being talked into the roller coaster. Needless to say I did not feel well on the bus ride home.
I had a bad experience with Roller Coasters as a child I almost fell off the one at Whalen Park when I was eight. If my Dad had not reach over I would have been a goner. Whalen Park closed last year another end of an era.
Jennifer are you going to Newport for the week or just the day? If you should go to the Black Pearl the chowder is the best.
Not sure when I will be going down. There are a lot of things in the fire. It might be a weekend.
Birdie--who now only goes on Roller Coasters when my family harrasses me enough to make me cave. I did ride all the big one in Disney World three years ago. I don't think I will go on Rocking Roller Coaster when we go nest
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Does anyone know what that mail chute thing was just to the left of Jeremiah's room in the Great/New House today?
In Josette's room, I've noticed curtained windows just to the left of the door when you come into the room (just to the right hand side of the door, if you're standing by Josette's bed and facing the hallway). Do you think these are false curtains for decoration, or is this indeed an outside wall? The fireplace is to the right, so it could be an outside wall, yet the hallway would seem to extend beyond Josette's room.
Favorite room(s) so far: Josette's; Naomi and Joshua's. I remember really liking the study, but can't remember if that's the Old House or New. ?!?
:) :) :) :)
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I'll probaly just go for the day Birdie i can stay down the Cape so its easy to shoot over. I've been to Newport
a few times but have never tried The Black Pearl. doesn't that have a DS connection too?When i went to
Essex Conn it was fun to see all the DS places there
(The Inn was great!)
i'll have to check those rooms out tommorrow Vlad!
jennifer
I know i went totally OT about roller coasters
but that one in Disneyworld Birdie(rockin roller coaster)
my husband came off it and was green LOL!)
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I'm torn between both the Old House and Collinswood. :-/ I love the charm and era of the old house but I also love the room in the big house. I know my son would love it. He could fill up the rooms really easy. ::)
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In Josette's room, I've noticed curtained windows just to the left of the door when you come into the room (just to the right hand side of the door, if you're standing by Josette's bed and facing the hallway). Do you think these are false curtains for decoration, or is this indeed an outside wall? The fireplace is to the right, so it could be an outside wall, yet the hallway would seem to extend beyond Josette's room.
:) :) :) :)
Since it would be unthinkable for the future lady of the house to be placed in a windowless room, I am going to assume that the windows are supposed to be real
Although, this is the same show that has Barnabas' bedroom being smaller than Angelique's, which is even more unthinkable.
:)
Luciaphil
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Although I really really love Collinwood,
[shadow=red,left,300](I've been to Seaview Terrace 6 times and get goosebumps when I first see the house on each trip)[/shadow][/glow]If I had my choice of which house to live in I would choose the Old House. I like antiquated things, and they would look much more at home in the Old House enviroment.
I have to agree with Birdie, the clam chowder at the Black Pearl is awesome. ( Jen, the backside of the Black Pearl building was used on the show to depict the exterior of the Blue Whale.) :D Bob
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I vote for Collinwood! love to be in a house where I can say" I"ll be in the West Wing if you are looking for me"
also the space!!!!!!!!!!A room just for all my shoes!!!
jennifer
I agree with jennifer! SPACE...not only the final frontier but what I have been in dire need of for most of my adult life! Pack rats unite and storm Collinwood! Of course, if we all get in there we will soon need even more space!
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Pack rats unite and storm Collinwood! Of course, if we all get in there we will soon need even more space!
Don't worry, CastleBee. When that happens, we'll just spread out to the PT house.
ProfStokes
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Well, since Harry Johnson lived at Collinwood, I would certainly want to live there too. I would just love to get lost with him, oh what fun!!!
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Don't worry, CastleBee. When that happens, we'll just spread out to the PT house.
ProfStokes
Excellent idea professor! And since the bands of PT could be limitless we hunter gatherer types should be satisfied at last. [spin]
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A hard choice but I would have to go with the new/big house.
Linda and I were watching DS the other day, (courtesy of MPI we are up to 3/69 so I wont go into the plot because I dont want to be a spoiler) and there was an exterior view of Collinwood showing the tower elevation. I asked Linda wouldnt it be cool to live in Collinwood and have the tower room as the master bedroom? I actually found my self planning an interior fitout in my head to turn the tower into the best master bedroom ever.
Visualization is a beautiful thing.
B
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AllenCollins, did you know that the upper floor of the tower room is now a bedroom?-- Actually, it's a dorm room, with a pair of bunk beds to sleep 4 students. When I saw it after last year's Fest, it also contained 4 dressers and a couple of desks, plus a closet had been added. I had no idea it was that roomy (as a storage room it didn't seem to be) but it seems the layout you've visualized would probably work just fine in there.
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I would go with the Old House. And yes, I'd want it completely outfitted with all the latest conveniences, including a strong lock on the front door and windows!
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Midnite,
This is one of the advantages of doing construction work for a living, visualization. The idea of a round room as a master bedroom gets the creative juices flowing. Besides you are at the, "top of the mountain" king, (or queen) of all you survey.
It doesnt get much better than that.
Thanks for the response.
B
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Besides you are at the, "top of the mountain" king, (or queen) of all you survey.
Well, there's actually one big drawback to this tower room, Allen. You see, the windows (which are probably only 3 feet long) are located just below what has to be an 11-12 foot ceiling, so all you can actually survey is the sky. :(
Midnite posted a few photos of the room on the most recent VN board. If you ask her nicely, maybe she'll be kind enough to post them again here. ;)
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mfmdpt,
Every problem is a challenge, and every challenge an opprotunity.
The answer: Reframe larger windows and do dormers. Costly, yes but in planning and visualizing anything is possible. But we there are aestechtic limitations if we want to qualify for those, "Historic Tax Credits" for rennovations and reutilization of a historic building.
B
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Or just knock a bunch of holes in the walls for that rustic, embattled look.
--Mark
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Sigh.....I knew this was going to happen as soon as I saw Mark Rainey's name.
And no, I wouldn't mind sharing the Evans Cottage...we could set it up kind of like a time share.....
I'll have to get in on the time-share for the Evans' Cottage, but not due to the architecture! It's another 'build'-ing I am interested in![evilg]
and re: the 'name-game' of the rainey's, everytime I read 'kuaynin', I think of Illya!
Lord of the Ringo's
I am NOT a number
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Since it would be unthinkable for the future lady of the house to be placed in a windowless room, I am going to assume that the windows are supposed to be real
I'm sure you're right about that, Luciaphil (i.e., that Josette's bedroom must have windows); however, I thought that there were windows on the wall to our (viewers') right, on either side of the bed's headboard, perhaps? It's also possible that there are windows on the "fourth" wall (i.e., the imaginary wall through which we, the audience, views the set/stage).
Any thoughts on that vertical mail chute outside the bedroom designated for Jeremiah at the Great House? It looked like the type you see in office buildings (though wooden, not glass).
Third, in another thread I mentioned that I COULD see a broad portico, pillars (and, presumably, steps), just outside the door of the Old House. Eons ago, it was thought that these had "disappeared" after they stopped using the video location footage that was used earlier on in the series.
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