DARK SHADOWS FORUMS
General Discussions => Current Talk Archive => Current Talk '24 I => Current Talk '13 II => Topic started by: Bob_the_Bartender on September 13, 2013, 01:25:15 AM
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Hey, gang,
I happened to be watching the PT 1840 DS episodes recently, and it struck me how truly obnoxious the character of Morgan Collins was on the show. The guy constantly hassles his "beloved" Catherine during these episodes, argues with his brothers, and really has it in for his cousin, Bramwell Collins. In fact, I recall Jonathan Frid, as Bramwell in one episode, describing Morgan to Catherine Harridge, as being "spoiled, arrogant and weak."
This guy was one of "Dark Shadows'' "greatest" bete-noires, imo, right up there along with PT 1970 Quentin Collins and 1897's Judith Collins-Trask! [ghost_tongue] [ghost_mad] I can't say that I was sorry to see Morgan and Bramwell (along with Kendrick) have that final confrontation on the widow's walk on the top of Collinwood. (Geronimo!!!) [ghost_rolleyes] [ghost_cheesy] [ghost_grin]
And, what can I say about a truly "great" talent like Kim Kardashian? This woman is like Ava Gardner, Eleanor Roosevelt and Sandra Day O'Connor all rolled into one. I was glad to hear DS actor Kathryn Leigh Scott expressing such "great" admiration for shows like "Keeping Up With The Kardashians," when she appeared on George Noory's "Coast-to-CoastAM Show" last summer. [ghost_tongue] [ghost_rolleyes]
Of course, Ms. Kardashians's "better" half, singer Kanye West is another "delightful" mensch. Remember when "Mr. Kardashian" showed himself to be the true gentleman that he is, when he "complimented" singer Taylor Swift for her award (over "Mr. Kardashians's" good pal, Beyonce) on one of those music award shows several years ago? [ghost_closedeyes]
Nevertheless, Ms. Kardashian and her cheerful companion are certainly to be congratulated on the recent birth of their baby, they named "North" (or is that "North-by-Northwest" or "North to Alaska" or possibly even "Northern Exposure," I really don't know for sure?).
Yes, I think we can all thank the late, lamented attorney and faithful O.J. Simpson defender, Mr. Robert Kardashian, for presenting (or more likely foisting ) his entire Kardashian family on the American psyche! [ghost_grin] [ghost_blink]
So, I leave it to you, is it the dour and sullen Morgan Collins or the totally untalented Kim Kardashian, who is more annoying?
Bob
PS Maybe Khloe Kardashian-Odom and her husband Lamar Odom can portray Daphne and Quentin in a remake of the 1840 PT storyline? [ghost_huh] [ghost_wink]
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I've never seen Kim K in action and I still don't know what the HELL the women in that family ever did to justify the nonstop tabloid attention their lives seem to warrant. They have a lot of cash, a penchant for trailer trash levels of romantic melodrama, use too much eyeliner and are on TV. Who cares? I don't.
Say what you will about Morgan, and I suspect this doesn't help you Bob, but some of us have very fond memories of Morgan's exciting and surprisingly active 1840s trouser snake.
Mad Morgan did a hysterical cackle with great enthusiasm. Uhhh... did Morgan have other talents? Tight revealing trousers that helped one "Hel-LO!" wake up in the morning, and a lurid cackle. That may be it.
yours in cybaeria,
goth-EEEEK (or Morgan's preferred alias... go THICK)
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as I recall morgan and bramwell were both so grating and obnoxious it was impossible to root for either of them.
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Kind of an apples and oranges situation.
While Morgan may indeed be the successor to Nathan Forbes, Morgan is easy to avoid. If you don't watch those episodes, chances are you will not encounter Morgan. But Kim and her family of professional bimbos are impossible to avoid.
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Say what you will about Morgan, and I suspect this doesn't help you Bob, but some of us have very fond memories of Morgan's exciting and surprisingly active 1840s trouser snake.
Mad Morgan did a hysterical cackle with great enthusiasm. Uhhh... did Morgan have other talents? Tight revealing trousers that helped one "Hel-LO!" wake up in the morning, and a lurid cackle. That may be it.
Gothick,
Yes, I agree that Morgan did display an hysterical cackle with great enthusiasm. [ghost_cheesy] (Perhaps the late Keith Prentice learned that subtle acting technique, considering that he may very well have been a proud graduate of the "world renowned" William Shatner School of Overacting?) [ghost_rolleyes]
As to Morgan's apparent physical appeal, while I've always been an enamored (if not a beguiled) fan of both Katherine Leigh Scott's lovely Maggie Evans and the late Anita Bolster's zaftig Bathia Mapes (alas, the one truly great unrequited love in my life), I have to admit that I've always had a huge "man-crush" on the late Daniel Keyes' character of the Eagle Hill Cemetery Caretaker! [ghost_wub] [ghost_wacko] [ghost_grin] (I like to think of the Eagle Hill Cemetery Caretaker as sort of Dark Shadows' "somewhat" mature answer to the rugged "Marlboro Man" of those Marlboro cigarette commercials of the 1960s and the 1970s.) [ghost_cool]
As to Kim Kardashian, she's sort of the "Ruby Tate of the current American zeitgeist!!! [ghost_embarrassed]
(Whatever the heck THAT means!!!) [ghost_wacko] [ghost_blink] [ghost_wink]
Bob
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I've never seen Kim K in action and I still don't know what the HELL the women in that family ever did to justify the nonstop tabloid attention their lives seem to warrant. They have a lot of cash, a penchant for trailer trash levels of romantic melodrama, use too much eyeliner and are on TV. Who cares? I don't.
Exactly. It's true that's it's next to impossible to avoid seeing photos of the Kim Kardashian, but I've had the pleasure of never seeing any of the reality shows she's done or any of the interviews anyone in the media has conducted with her, so I can honestly say I have absolutely no opinion about her whatsoever.
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Exactly. It's true that's it's next to impossible to avoid seeing photos of the Kim Kardashian, but I've had the pleasure of never seeing any of the reality shows she's done or any of the interviews anyone in the media has conducted with her, so I can honestly say I have absolutely no opinion about her whatsoever.
Hey, MB,
Just so long as you set your TV to always bypass the "E" Channel, and when standing on line at the supermarket checkout, you positively do NOT look at any of the trashy magazines "heralding" the on-going "exploits" of the Kardashian family, then, you'll certainly be okay. [ghost_wink] [ghost_rolleyes] [ghost_grin]
Bob
PS Lookalikes: Bruce Jenner (Kardashian?) and Sandor Rakosi? [ghost_huh] [ghost_wacko] [ghost_wink]
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I never watch E!. And as for the tabloids, if I notice them at all, about as close as I get to them is laughing over their asinine front page headlines. [ghost_rolleyes]
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goth-EEEEK (or Morgan's preferred alias... go THICK)
HA! "Go thick" is how the editor in my tablet browser wants to spell your name when I type it!
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A perfect article to supplement this topic:
Famous people with no discernible talent
Celebrities used to be famous for their skill set. These days, not so much. (http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2013/09/20/reality-stars-wont-away/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%253A+foxnews%252Fmost-popular+%2528Internal+-+Most+Popular+Content%2529#slide=1)
The Kardashians are certainly a part of the list. (Though I don't agree with a few of the others - however, given the Web site the article is posted on, it's not hard to suspect that the site has its own agenda when it comes to who they've included.)
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People being famous for no apparent reason with little, if any, discernible talent is nothing that new. There's Vanna White, Lee Radziwell and the ultimate: Zsa Zsa Gabor.
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True. Though it seems to have reached epic proportions nowadays. Or maybe it's just that the media is far more obsessed with these people than they ever used to be. [ghost_rolleyes]
And if anyone ever tries to deny that Vanna White turns letters like no one else can or possibly ever will, well, I'm pretty sure that's sacrilege in the game show world! [ghost_grin]
Though none of that has anything to do with DS, so I suppose I'll leave it at that...
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the kardasian's definitely take the concept to it's nth degree...
paris hilton at least had an endearing stupidity about her. these guys just seem like calculating creeps.
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Just about my only exposure to Kardashians comes when people on the Internet complain about how ubiquitous they are.
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Just about my only exposure to Kardashians comes when people on the Internet complain about how ubiquitous they are.
MT,
In his autobiography, entitled "Cosell," the late, lamented Howard Cosell mentioned that former New York Yankee manager and former World War II US Army Ranger, Ralph Houk, once commented on Mr. Cosell's renowned ubiquity, by paying him a "lefthanded compliment," when the Major said to "Humble" Howard:
"You're like 'bleep,' you're everywhere!" [hall_rolleyes] [hall_grin] (Sort of like the family, Kardashian, I suppose?) [hall_undecided] [hall_wink]
Bob
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Call me crazy, but I find Morgan easier to watch and certainly more tolerable than 1970 PT Quentin Collins. Morgan only really went [spoiler] nutso when he learned that Catherine was carrying Bramwell's child. [/spoiler]
Quentin of 1970 PT I wanted to strangle every time I saw he was going to throw a temper tantrum which was more often than not!
As for Kim Kardashian, I could care less since I don't keep up with her or her crew.
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Quentin of 1970 PT I wanted to strangle every time I saw he was going to throw a temper tantrum which was more often than not!
Ah, yes, 1970 PT Quentin Collins, or as I like to refer to him as:
Dark Shadows' Own "Answer" to Joey Buttafucco (and possibly Alec "The New Quiet Man" Baldwin). [hall_rolleyes]
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I actually find Morgan easier to take after he goes all-out nuts. He frustrates the hell out of me the most earlier on, when we're supposed to like him I guess, but he's a pain, too loud, and insufferable.
Bob-- Thanks for the Howard quote... My being out of touch with media has advantages. It cuts down on certain people's pointless ubiquity...
[bat7628] [skelleton_runs] [8_1_215]
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People being famous for no apparent reason with little, if any, discernible talent is nothing that new. There's Vanna White, Lee Radziwell and the ultimate: Zsa Zsa Gabor.
Uncle Roger,
And, let's not forget Regis Philbin, Mylie Cyrus, Snooky Polizzi, Ryan Seacrest, Donny & Marie Osmond, Kelly Ripa, Ashton Kutcher, Bianca Jagger, the eminently forgettable Roger Collins character in Tim Burton's "Dark Shadows," and, last, but not least, the original "Dark Shadows'" own Dameon "Mr. Bad Leisure Suit" Edwards. [skull_winks]
Bob