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Title: Discuss - Ep #0473
Post by: Midnite on June 06, 2013, 05:20:50 PM
Robservations #473

And if you'd care to look back, the first WP discussion topic for this ep:
Re: Discuss - Ep #0473
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0473
Post by: MagnusTrask on June 06, 2013, 06:24:13 PM
Hi Midnite....

Moltke refers to her character in the third person in her VO.  No "My name is Victoria Winters".

Welcome, hideously attired and coiffed Cassandra.
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0473
Post by: DarkLady on June 06, 2013, 08:48:12 PM
Unwelcome Cassandra's Day-Glo green coat and black wig.

Nice sparring between Elizabeth and Roger in the study, with not a line fluffed. In a switch, Elizabeth is as stern as Joshua, and Roger is as emotional as Naomi.

Meanwhile, Barnabas and Cassandra have a duel of their own in the drawing room. What a beautiful room this is! I have always wanted to live in such a house. [We know that when she says "always," she means ALWAYS.] Barnabas, who realizes this, observes dryly, Now you will get your wish.
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0473
Post by: MagnusTrask on June 06, 2013, 09:01:59 PM
Barnabas kept his cool, surprisingly.   Maybe he's had time to get used to all the recent changes, and has been expecting some entrance of some kind by Ang.   This isn't the same Barnabas who was stunned out of his gourd by Lang's magic curtain act.

Barnabas can't help but be flattered by recent events.   His witch-wife pursues him from beyond the grave, and through time.  A pioneering doctor goes out of his way to cure him of vampirism, including a possible revolutionary treatment that might harm another man (Jeff C) in some vague unspecified way, but what's that matter...  Julia forgives all the throttlings and death threats, and stays in love with him, ready to do anything at his command.  What further evidence is needed... the universe revolves around Barnabas after all!!

I continue to see Roger differently ever since seeing 1966.
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0473
Post by: Nicky on June 06, 2013, 11:02:26 PM
Ah, Cassandra -- my favorite character (or iteration, I suppose, of Angelique ... Cassangemirandavalerique DuVal Bouchard Collins Collins DuVal DuBois Rumson Collins.)  Isn't this wig APPALLING?!?  Like some kind of horrible untamed raccoon creature perched atop her head.  I actually asked Lara Parker about it at the 1998 Fest, but she seemed to have no memory of ever wearing a dark wig ...
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0473
Post by: DarkLady on June 07, 2013, 03:15:17 PM
Interesting--and funny--post about Barnabas, MT.

And Nicky, thanks for giving us Angelique's full moniker! Maybe we should keep a checklist of her aliases as the story progresses.  [easter_cheesy]
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0473
Post by: MagnusTrask on June 07, 2013, 06:54:53 PM
Angelique ... Cassangemirandavalerique DuVal Bouchard Collins Collins DuVal DuBois Rumson Collins.

Thanks for that Nicky, I want to call her that from now on!   And you'll be responsible!

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I actually asked Lara Parker about it at the 1998 Fest, but she seemed to have no memory of ever wearing a dark wig ...

Trauma'll do that to you.... Thanks, DL!
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0473
Post by: Nicky on June 07, 2013, 08:01:07 PM
Oh, you're certainly welcome.   [ghost_wink]
[spoiler]
(For the record, I believe it goes something like this ...  Angelique Cassandra Valerie Miranda Bouchard Collins Collins DuVal DuBois Rumson Collins DuVal ... depending on the order of her timeline, I suppose ... sigh.)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0473
Post by: dom on June 07, 2013, 08:02:19 PM
I actually asked Lara Parker about it at the 1998 Fest, but she seemed to have no memory of ever wearing a dark wig ...

I'll never forget that moment as long as I live. I think I actually have a photo of that precise moment. I found her reaction appalling and I've held it against her ever since. What can I say, I'm petty and shallow...and bitter.

Another ‘new’ view of Collinwood?  Egad! What a horrible print this episode is. Everyone looks ghastly! Roger brings home a new wife, a new wife in a horrible wig. Why a bad wig? Is there a point? Liz confronts Roger on his marriage, a serious (and amusing) discussion. Barn does the cat & mouse thing with Cassandra and during a conversation with Vicki we learn that Cass is the student Stokes was waiting for in the previous episode. It is made very clear to the audience that Cassandra is Angelique.
 
Afterthought: I enjoyed Bennett & Edmond’s scene together immensely, and that of Frid & Parker, mostly because of Barn’s ‘attitude’.
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0473
Post by: Nicky on June 08, 2013, 12:46:01 AM
Oh Dom, I love you!

You know, I was thinking about this the other day, and I never thought Cassandra actually wore a wig (LP, yes; Cassandra, no).  I just assumed she used magic (cheaper than Ms. Clairol).  Then I re-evaluated after I read a summary of this episode somewhere online (can't remember where), and the summarizer described the episode's final scene as Cassandra pretending to adjust her WIG while using the portrait as a mirror.

... nope, I still don't think it's supposed to be a wig. 
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0473
Post by: dom on June 08, 2013, 07:58:03 PM
If it were meant to be a wig, I imagine that Barn Or Julia would have pulled it off in some big AH HA! moment sooner or later.
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0473
Post by: Nicky on June 08, 2013, 09:05:04 PM
I was always amazed that, given the technical aspects of Our Favorite Show, the damned thing never fell off her head.  Even La Montgomery nearly lost it in my favorite episode of Bewitched, "Double, Double, Toil and Trouble," where Samantha smacks Serena in the gob with a pie, causing the wig to very obviously slide backward.

And even when a certain someone slaps another certain someone in a much deserved moment, the Horrible Untamed Raccoon Creature stays put.
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0473
Post by: MagnusTrask on June 09, 2013, 09:31:28 PM
(E Montgomery was nicknamed "La"?  And sitcoms of course were allowed to edit...)
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0473
Post by: Nicky on June 10, 2013, 12:20:58 AM
I may have nicknamed her that ...  [ghost_grin]
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0473
Post by: Uncle Roger on June 10, 2013, 06:20:41 PM
If Cassandra had been outed as a wig wearer, then perhaps she and Julia could have had a catfight like the Helen Lawson/Neely O'Hara sequence in the then current Valley of the Dolls.  [ghost_rolleyes]
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0473
Post by: alwaysdavid on June 10, 2013, 07:12:36 PM
Everyone wonders how Roger's luggage got in the foyer and then he arrives and wants champagne for a dark haired wife. Everyone is shocked, but he has a habit of bringing home pretty wives. They were married in Rockport.  Elizabeth surprisingly brings up that legally Roger is still married to Laura as she was never declared dead. Roger ignores this idea as a trifle. The wife looks at the painting as if she were looking in a mirror and the credits say Cassandra Collins.
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0473
Post by: DarkLady on June 10, 2013, 10:15:57 PM
After their big announcement, Roger and Cassangelique eventually become aware that Barnabas, Elizabeth, and Vicki are completely stunned but are trying to behave graciously. Cassandra says cheerfully, I’m still not used to the change--it’s not quite the wedding I had planned. (At this point, Barnabas finds it necessary to look away, perhaps remembering his own wedding.)

Love the reference to Martinique!
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0473
Post by: Nicky on June 11, 2013, 12:02:38 AM
She's certainly not being very subtle.  How about a honeymoon at Niagara Falls, like everyone else? [ghost_cheesy]