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General Discussions => Current Talk Archive => Current Talk '24 I => Current Talk '03 II => Topic started by: Darren Gross on July 25, 2003, 09:45:59 AM
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Thanks, Darren - but what disappointing news. :( :- On the up side, though, at least they didn't say that they never have any intention of restoring NoDS and only plan to release the VHS print on DVD. So, even if it's only small, there IS still some hope...
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This is disappointing news, although I can understand Warners' point of view. After all, when considering the entire continuum of cinema, HODS and NODS are not especially significant or important films.
The real frustration comes from Warners' unwillingness to license their titles to other companies. I wouldn't be surprised if a company such as Anchor Bay were willing to license the titles and sponsor the restoration of NODS. Perhaps Warners will one day be willing to loosen their grip on what they consider their less-important titles, thereby making a nice little licensing fee while satisfying DS fans everywhere.
Regards,
John
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But Darren...wasn't I in that 'chat' thing with Warners and I asked about NoDS? (I also asked about "Prince & Pauper", as you suggested, and they said yes to both...'soonish'....)
Should WE (hopefully, ALL posters on this board
a) write actual letters
b) perhaps go to a web site and give Warner execs links to the VERY NUMEROUS DS web sites
c) give them a TV guide, explaining DS is on for 2 eps per DAY (obviously, TPTB @ Sci-Fi know there's an audience).
??????Patti??????
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Patti.
The pitch was done immediately after forum chat. (Thanks for attending by the way.)
At this stage, writing letters, emails or petitions wouldn't help at all. It was clear in their communications that Warners is aware of the 'enthusiastic fan following the show and films have' but doesn't feel it's sizeable enough to warrant focusing their immediate or special attention on the films.
We could write 10 letters a day but all it would do would annoy them and fill up their garbage cans.
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However, if they hope to do it, in say 5 years, that does provide more time to try to locate the uncut version and/or try to persuade them to do the restoration when they do finally get around to it.
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Josette,
You mean the uncut version of HODS, right?
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Darren,
I just wanted to thank you for all the hard work and time you've invested in getting the DS movies restored & released again.
And to Warners:
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :( >:( :'(
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Darren, I guess so! I read these items about trying to find the missing footage and restorations, etc., but I don't necessarily remember exactly which items are which. I just hope that eventually both can be restored to what they should be, and if they ever do it, with the additional time, perhaps it's more likely that they'll do it correctly instead of just releasing what we have now.
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[bawling2] [bawling2] i'm so sad to hear this about the movie restoration. it's just a crying shame. my main concern is with NODS and the voice-over aspect.
it would be a shame if when they finally decided to go for it that the actor's have all passed away or in some way become incapacited from being able to work on the project.
perish the thought.
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Hi Josette,
The Cliff's notes version is- all the footage from NODS has been recovered but is missing sections of audio track.
The longer international version of HODS is still lost at this point...
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Hi Darren,
Thank you for the clarification. I certainly hope it all works out someday!! :)
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very sorry to hear this. I really wanted to see the uncut NODS as I bet it would be a terrific film.
Perhaps DVD releases in the future could feature the footage you found.
Might Curtis be able to buy back the rights to the films, or remake them, using the original shooting scripts?
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My guess would be that the DVD release of NODS would feature the standard theatrical version with "bonus footage" tacked on at the end, as per usual with DVD's. The same would possibly apply to HODS if they found any additional footage to tack on.
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This is really unfortunate news...I had a feeling Time Warner would be like this which is why I bought 2 copies of each VHS tape from Amazon and taped them from tv as well... seems the only DVD's of these movies I might ever own will be if I get a DVD recorder... I applaud the efforts of Darren and all those who tried to get the restoration done...
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LOL...I'm getting ready to transfer my VHS copies to DVD, so they'll last longer--at least till I die, since WB is not likely to release them in my lifetime (sorry, Darren. . .I know what you've been told, but I'm not confident. . .)
Brian
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Bri,
If you have the NODS taped off Turner, I'd recommend using that. It has the correct sound mix which isn't on the VHS tape.
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Thanks, Darren. I do have that one, and it's the only one I can use. The MGM/Turner VHS is copy-protected. Odd, because HODS is not.
Great new posting on your NODS site--everyone should check it out.
Brian
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From reading all the postings here, I take it Warner Bros. has stated they will not be releasing either HODS or NODS on DVD ... is that right? Why was Darren's original post explaining this deleted?
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The powers that be noted their displeasure in the candor and wording of some parts of the accouncement, so in the spirit of good will and professionalism, I deleted it.
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The powers that be noted their displeasure in the candor and wording of some parts of the accouncement
Darren, I'm assuming that TPTB didn't actually read your announcement on this forum but rather on some other DS BB (assuming that this forum isn't the only place you'd posted it)?
It's unfortunate that they took exception to what you had to say because you were simply speaking the truth. :-
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It's my own fault. I was a bit premature in posting it and was caught out in a moment of weakness...After drumming up all the support for the Warner chat I was anxious to give some feedback as to the results...I thought it was deserved by those who tried to take part., but I should have held off or softened it a bit.
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Well, I think your frustration was more than understandable. You've been championing the restoration for four years and through no fault of your own you haven't seen your efforts move forward all that much. :(
I suppose I can understand their point - but at the same time I honestly believe that you don't have anything to be embarrassed about. ;)
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Embarrassed is how Warner Bros should be, they told ME on the chat they'd be releasing HoDS, so, hello, it wasn't Darren's enthusiasm, but Warner's lack of integrity.
Thaaat's right....
Patti
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Well, in my opinion, it's those corporate boneheads who should be embarrassed.
There's a clear, well defined and substantial market for restored DVD releases of the DS films, so the tude being displayed by these bozos can be put down to people with more money than sense running their firm.
An all too familiar phenom in today's H'wood...
G.
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The powers that be noted their displeasure in the candor and wording of some parts of the accouncement
It's unfortunate that they took exception to what you had to say because you were simply speaking the truth. :-
It's called CENSORSHIP and it sucks to put it bluntly! I think TPTB underestimate the number of people who would buy a DVD with HODS and restored NODS on it.