DARK SHADOWS FORUMS
General Discussions => Current Talk Archive => Current Talk '25 I => Current Talk '02 I => Topic started by: VAM on March 02, 2002, 11:39:46 PM
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It would be interesting to know from the posters on the board, who their favorite charater is from the 1795 storyline and why. Sort of a poll being conducted here. Since I initiated the request, that, of course ;D, eliminates me from participation!
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Hi! New to this board and I love it! The screen caps are excellent. I loved DS from its first episode in 66 - I was 5 years old and watched the first show w/ Victoria andwas hooked. I had a massive crush on Carolyn and her long blonde hair when I was little -sort of like the crush I had for Mia farrow and her long blonde hair on Peyton Place in the 60's. Oh well...answer to your question...Angelique of course. Lara Parker was masterful in this role and you can see her confidence growing everyday in the role. The way she fixed her eyes was priceless. You hated Angelique's evil deeds but you loved her for doing them. :)
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There are several characters in this story line that I really like. My favorite is probably Ben Stokes. He faced a great conflict, torn between aiding "Mr. Barnabas," his friend and master, and serving Angelique, Barnabas's greatest enemy; the former he preferred to do, the latter he was forced to do. In spite of the negative circumstances in his way, Stokes managed to develop into a positive force and stands out as one of the most admirable 'good guys' in the whole show. I was a little surprised by his violent attitude in the first few episodes. His murderous hatred of Joshua struck me as reminiscent of Matthew Morgan, quite unlike the nonviolent figure that Stokes later becomes. Like many people in 1795, he didn't deserve the terrible things that happened to him, but unlike them he managed to come through it rather well.
Countess Natalie is a pretty interesting character too. She's a very strong and independent woman, which is unusual for this time period and for DS in general. I really enjoy her scenes with Joshua. I also like Naomi. She's one of the nicest characters in this tragedy, as upcoming events will show, and one of the most innocent. It's clear that she hasn't had a very happy life. Of all the victims in 1795, I think that she was the least deserving of suffering.
ProfStokes
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Another Poll?
I liked Stokes so far. I thought TD was masterful in showing his joyful emotions at working for Barnabas rather than Joshua, so touching.
Natalie is cool too. Those 1-liners are priceless. But she doesn't do too much in this storyline.
And thought I'm not the biggest LP fan, I do admire what she's doing. . just a few days on the job and she's already seduced us. . .
Julia99
p.s. yes the glow thing is the only font attribute i've figured out so far. .
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I love Barnabas. It came on when I was 10 years old, and I had this big crush on Barnabas. A few years have gone by and I still have a crush on him. Barnabas, hands down.
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Well, of course, Josette DuPres. But since that's a given, I'll go ahead and say that my other favorites are the Countess Natalie DuPres and - for some totally unknown reason - Auntie Abigail. Something about that woman rocks my world.
Gerard
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I agree with you Gerald :)
I like dear "sweet" Aunt Abigail. She reminds me of
another lady we both know - Mrs. Johnson. It doesn't
matter to her what other people think, she just
calls it like she sees it :P
Annabelle
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This is fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Any role Lara Parker plays would be one of my favorites. She is fantastic! :-*
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Hi! New to this board [snip]I had a massive crush on Carolyn and her long blonde hair when I was little -sort of like the crush I had for Mia farrow and her long blonde hair on Peyton Place in the 60's.
Welcome Thom! -- Love it when new folks turnup, or carrot, or potato -- as a 'first generation' viewer as well, isn't it great to see these kids catch the 'fever'.
[insert Sarcasm Icon here][jester]
But I can't imagine having a 'crush' on one of the ladies on the show, could you, Gerard?
[removing S/I]
Now if you asked who was the loveliest, that would indeed be a gimmee, per Gerard [pls see avatar]
But my fave character, is Ben. What a friend.
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Hey Ringo,
Now that is a good looking couple pictured on your post! :o
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I like Ben the best in this storyline becauses he tries so hard to protect barnabas but just can't win against Angelique
jennifer
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It would be interesting to know from the posters on the board, who their favorite charater is from the 1795 storyline and why. Sort of a poll being conducted here.
I am assuming that by "favorite" we aren't talking the best critical performance.
If that is the case, than I'm going to go with Millicent. Nancy Barrett was hysterical playing the epitome of the empty-headed "ideal" female.
Luciaphil
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Barnabas will always be my favorite character, in this and every other storyline, but Angelique's evil and beauty fascinates me now as it did when I first saw this storyline in the 60's. I think Joshua is a most complex man, a man who feels emotions, particularly love of his family, deep down inside, but can't show it because that's not what was expected of men back then. Naomi's sadness and drinking reminded me of my mother's problems, sorry to say, but I admired and pitied her, and wished her more happiness than she found.
While Josette seems relatively superficial at first, sweet and demure, she displays a strength and courage later in the storyline that surprises. She is far more than she appears to be, and I can understand why Barnabas fell in love with her.
Natalie delighted me with her forthright nature and retorts to Joshua; Millicent's silliness masked a deepening insanity and inability to deal with life; Nathan went from good friend to Barnabas and protector of Vicki to something completely opposite. As well as Forbes filled out his Navy uniform, he was also a character of depth and complexity.
Even Andre had his moments in this storyline, enough that I've never forgotten him.
Love, Robin
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I guess I would have to say Barnabas because I do look forward to the episodes he is in. What a hard poll! This is a fantastic story line with wonderful charactors. Everyone else who has posted has brought up great points. Even though I watched in the 60's I didn't start until the pre-Quentin story line. I am loving 1795! I think I might have said this before. :). Looking forward to tomorrow episode. My fingers are crossed that the VCR is working properly. A big sign will be on the T.V. not to touch as I will be leaving for work before everyone else leaves for work/school.
Birdie
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Hi Ringo - thanks for the welcome and loved your 'sarcasm'! Of course my 'crush' on those lovely ladies ended when I realized I was gay and then I started looking at David Selby in a different way. And Don Briscoe and so on and so on. Did any daytime show(other than maybe Y & R or Love Is A Many Splendored Thing) have so many goodlooking people? Hmmm...
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I am assuming that by "favorite" we aren't talking the best critical performance.
If that is the case, than I'm going to go with Millicent. Nancy Barrett was hysterical playing the epitome of the empty-headed "ideal" female.
I agree with Luciaphil - Nancy's Millicent is one of the most amusing :D characters in this storyline. This is the point where she really started to come into her own on DS - when she had a chance to depart from the more ordinary (if anything on DS ever was 'ordinary') young female soap character and start doing her great character stuff.
CastleBee
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My favorite character in the 1795 Flashback is Noah Gifford. I like the scenes he did with Nathan Forbes, and Daniel Collins.
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A little Spoiler warning!
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I do like Stokes, and my wife's favorite is Angelique. We watch it everyday, and she was so excited when Angelique showed up.
For some reason, I am looking foward to Trask, perhaps because I do know what happens to him. His long exorcism's and pompous attitudes crack me up. My kids always remember the scene with Barnabas, Trask, and of course the bricks.
Dark Shadows made many social statements with their storylines and characters, and Trask is no exception.
deron :)
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Dear VAM,
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My favorite upcoming 1795 character is, of course, Mr. Mooney, proprietor and head bartender of the Eagle Inn.
Sincerely,
Bob the Bartender
PS Is Mr. Mooney of the Eagle Inn related to Mr. Rooney of the Blue Whale?
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Hey Deron....I too am looking forward to the arrival of Trask! Jerry Lacy has soooo much fun playing that part that it spills over and makes it all the more fun for the viewer to watch!
Spoilage
I also am looking forward to the arrival of Suki who will add yet another fun plot twist to the storyline!
Always, Minja[vryevl]
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My favorite upcoming 1795 character is, of course, Mr. Mooney, proprietor and head bartender of the Eagle Inn.
Why, Bob, I would have thought that you were most fond of Bathia Mapes. ;)
ProfStokes
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I am assuming that by "favorite" we aren't talking the best critical performance.
If that is the case, than I'm going to go with Millicent. Nancy Barrett was hysterical playing the epitome of the empty-headed "ideal" female.
Luciaphil
Gad, wasn't she a hoot? :D She was the first one I thought of, too, although I also really liked the character of Ben Stokes.
Cheers,
Linda
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Would like to thank all, who took the time to contribute-
VAM
P.S. If you haven't, there is still time to place a vote!
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Dear ProfStokes,
Bathia Mapes, my unrequited love! Excuse me if I leave to fix myself a nice hot toddy.
Sincerely,
Bob the Bartender, who's going to listen to Frank Sinatra's classic torch song, "In the Wee Small Hours of the Morning" while he nurses his hot toddy.
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Oh, I just have to say Angelique. She just burst onto the show and made it her own from the start. She is such an unusual character, really in all of her evolutions and especially in the Dan Curtis world of boring fems. That combined with the extraordinary looks of Lara Parker, makes her someone you could never forget! :o
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1795 does have some of the best developed, multifaceted characters of the series, and perhaps the most complex characterizations.
Before this question was posed, I had been thinking about Ben Stokes and how his character grows throughout the storyline. In many ways he eventually embodies many of the attributes of a true gentleman (despite his background and station), and his character will prove to be more admirable than some of those of higher social status who were considered "gentlemen."
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Barnabas is another of my choices because he not only proves to be a true gentleman at many crucial points, but he will also prove to be a tragic hero.
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I'd say Barnabas and the conflict between Josette and Angelique, and her wanting revenge on Barnabas and turning him into a vampire...
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Millicent was my fav char! She was such a riot going insane, although it was kind of sad. Her scenes with Nathan were the best, because she was so bashful, she wouldn't let him hold her hand or anything....of course, this is why Carolyn is so evil 2 Joe later on.....it's Millicent's revenge on Nathan *EVIL LAUGH* ;D I loved how naive she was, the "perfect" [at that time] lady aristocrat, who was swept off her feet by the EVIL, but handsome Nathan Forbes........*le sigh* Once she went insane she was so much fun to watch. Her eyes scared me almost as much as Angelique's. SCARY!! She could be looking at you, and see right through you, and talk to herself like you weren't even there......
But I also adore Suki! OMG She was so wonderful! She was the only person who could put Nathan in his place....like when she first walked into the Eagle, or whatever it was called, she MADE him pull out her chair for her, and she wouldn't sit until he did, and then she barged in2 Collinwood and told him what an idiot he was and how he's always spoiled by his own deceit and how she "is growing rather fond of [money] herself," as she drools on the rugs and smiles oh-so-smugly at Millicent. They should have had Jane Draper back as another part! I was going crazy when she came out of the wall a couple days ago for Barn's trial. " :o ;D ;D ;D SUUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D" I was so happy she was back, but now she's gone forever...*le sigh* But I have tapes ;D
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My favorite character by far had to be Countess Natalie DuPres.Grayson Hall did a marvelous job in the role.
-Adra ;D
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Oh, this is a toughie. I remember when I was watching this last run and first saw the episode where Angie swept through the door much to Barney's dismay. She ruled the show from the first moment!
Like? Ben Stokes. Enjoy? Nathan Forbes. He is wonderfully sexy in a way that Joe would never be.
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Hmm this is a toughie. I would say that Millicent is my favorite 1795 character. She was always so lady like but slipped at time and then started going 'i'm ruined, i'm ruined'. After she went crazy, I felt sorry for her, but she was a joy to watch. I loved her laugh. Nancy Barrett was great playing her. I wish we had gotten to see more of her during the early days of 1795, to me it seems she didn't appear regularly until Barnabas and Angelique got marrid. I also loved Angelique. Her character was great. I loved Lara Parker's portrayl..her eyes looked like that of a evil, bitter woman at times. Suki Forbes was great..too bad Jane Draper didn't get any other role! One of the best short term portrayals on DS that I've seen. I also liked Jonathan Frid, Louis Edmonds, and KLS' acting in the storyline. Too bad Barnbas and Josette lost each other :(
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For me it Angelique. The scene from DS that stuck
with me the longest was where Barnabas shot her
and she cursed him.
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Angelique was my favorite during the 1795 storyline. With her around, there was always something happening. Things were never boring when she was on and you could always count on her to make something exiting happen. I loved the scenes between her and Barnabas and really felt that they had great onscreen chemistry together. I'll never forget that scene between the two of them in Barnabas' bedroom when she replied to him that " he is her master and she is his servant!"
It's too bad he didn't remind her of that though when she was cursing his whole family. :)
I also liked Naomi and felt that she was given a bad rap during that time period on account of her drinking habits. Out of everyone she had the most kindest, caring nature and was always good to everyone. She was so sensitive and you couldn't help but feel sorry for her. It was sad to see her life end the way it did. >:(
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Just about everybody did a great job during this storyline, so it's hard to pick just one. My personal favorites:
Joshua (pompous, proud, stern and stubborn, funny at times, but despite himself did have a underlining love for his family)
Angelique (she did a lot of rotten things, nearly choked Barnabas to death, turned Joshua into a cat, made Josette and Jeremiah fall in love, made poor little Sarah ill, framed Vicki for her witchcraft, cursed Barnabas, made Josette jump to her death from Widows' Hill....but her evil deeds were so fascinating to watch. Glad Curtis had sense to keep her on the show).
Ben Stokes (though he was resentful at having to be an "endangered servant" (as his descentant the good Professor put it) to the Collins family (particularly Joshua) he proved to be a most loyal servant despite being enslaved by Angelique and a loyal and devoted friend to Barnabas, before and after Angelique cursed him.
Naomi Collins (poor woman suffered so much heartache, it's no wonder she turned to the bottle! But she did have an inner-strength that kept her going....it was just the shock of seeing her son turned into a monster that finally pushed her over the edge :'()
And of course Barnabas.....you saw how much he suffered after Angelique turned him into a vampire, how he was filled with so much lonliness and self-loathing....he really made me feel for him.
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Ben Stokes (though he was resentful at having to be an "endangered servant" (as his descentant the good Professor put it) to the Collins family (particularly Joshua)
Ben was an indentured servant-- an admitted thief (he stole food to satisfy his hunger) bound over for services.
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Ben Stokes (though he was resentful at having to be an "endangered servant" (as his descentant the good Professor put it) to the Collins family (particularly Joshua)
Ben was an indentured servant-- an admitted thief (he stole food to satisfy his hunger) bound over for services.
Oh, indentured! It had sounded to me like he pronounced it endangered.... ^-^
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My favorite character from 1795 would have to be Angelique :) I also liked Naomi and Millicent cracked me off. She was so wispy!!
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My favorite in 1795 is Ben Stokes. I like the storyline though for me there is no one to drool over, no JK character. But I love Ben, he is so loyal and a very good person.
I like Naomi and felt she was a tragic figure, due to her loveless marriage and the tragedy of [spoiler]losing both of her children during the storyline, then learning what her son had become and committing suicide because it was too much for her to bear.[/spoiler]
I also love Suki and wish she'd had more episodes and that Jane Draper had been in more storylines.
Alondra
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My favorites:
1. Barnabas Collins: learning about him as a person before, during and after the curse. Love his character in all the storylines.
2. Ben Stokes: most caring best friend and loyal to the end!
3. Nathan Forbes: his pants!! ;D [I also enjoyed his character as the evil adversary ... great acting by Joel Crothers]
4. Sarah: she was very cute but we didn't learn that much about her. I loved her relationship with Barnabas and the saddest scene was when she [spoiler]died in his arms.[/spoiler][/color]