DARK SHADOWS FORUMS

General Discussions => Testing. 1, 2, 3... => Topic started by: Midnite on July 01, 2003, 06:47:03 PM

Title: Glow, Shadow
Post by: Midnite on July 01, 2003, 06:47:03 PM
I'm playing around with the codes for shadow and glow, but will let the codes display to hopefully help someone else learn to use these features...


SHADOW

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[shadow=lime green,2,4]TEST[/shadow][shadow=lime green,2,4]TEST[/shadow]
this is how the Help file says to do it [shadow=color,glow width,#characters wide], but I think it looks darn ugly and not at all like the demonstration shown there


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[shadow=purple,left]TEST[/shadow]TEST


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[shadow=red,right]TEST[/shadow]TEST


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[shadow=yellow, left]TEST[/shadow][shadow=yellow, left]TEST[/shadow]
to space or not to space after the commas?-- apparently it doesn't matter


GLOW

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[glow=color,glow width,#characters wide]text goes here[/glow]also in Help file under Posting, YABBC


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[glow=red,2,4]TEST[/glow]TEST


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[size=5][glow=red,2,4]TEST[/glow][/size]TEST
size tags don't work on the outside of glow tags (which proves that size matters only if you know where to put it, heh)


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[glow=red,2,4][size=5]TEST[/size][/glow]TEST


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[glow=red,5,4][size=5]TEST[/size][/glow]TEST


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[glow=green, 2, 4]TEST[/glow][glow=green, 2, 4]TEST[/glow]

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[glow=green,2,300]TEST[/glow]TEST


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[move][glow=yellow,5,300][color=red][b][size=5]TEST[/size][/b][/color][/glow][/move]
TEST
PLEASE note that to insure your multiple codes will work in SE, place your codes as mirror images of each other on the different sides of the text.


Feel free to reply to practice or ask questions.  BTW, "glow" and "shadow" do not work in Netscape, and "move" doesn't work in the Netscape versions that are compatible with the forum.
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Raineypark on July 01, 2003, 07:18:00 PM
TEST

TEST

[shadow=indianred][color=yellow,left]TEST[/color][/shadow]

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[color=indianred][shadow=yellow,left]TEST[/color][/shadow]  This code does not appear to work...I'm not seeing the color indianred on the last test....only the yellow shadow.  Is it written wrong?
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Midnite on July 01, 2003, 07:26:01 PM
Woo hoo!

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[color=indianred][shadow=yellow,left]TEST[/color][/shadow]  This code does not appear to work...I'm not seeing the color indianred on the last test....only the yellow shadow.  Is it written wrong?

Shadow and Glow tags apparently need to be on the outside of color and size tags (and a few others) to work.  So you'll get the indian red text if you put the color tags for it inside of the shadow tags.  And don't forget to make your codes mirror images (they not only work better, but it looks more professional this way)-- with the shadow tags surrounding those other codes. ;)
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Raineypark on July 01, 2003, 07:40:02 PM
TEXT
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[glow=cyan,2,4]TEXT[[/glow]

TEXT
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[glow=cyan,2,4][size=5]TEXT[/size][/glow]

TEXT
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[glow=cyan,5,4][size=6]TEXT[/size][/glow]
Hmmmmm....can't get rid of the three lines of "code" at the bottom of the post  ???
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Raineypark on July 01, 2003, 07:53:40 PM
[shadow=red]TEXT[shadow]

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[shadow=red][color=yellow]TEXT[/color][/shadow]
I think this is written correctly....so what's wrong  ???
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Midnite on July 01, 2003, 08:07:19 PM
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[shadow=red][color=yellow]TEXT[/color][/shadow]I think this is written correctly....so what's wrong  ???

All it needs is a comma and a direction (left or right) in the 1st shadow tag.  Here's the basic code--
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[shadow=color, direction][/shadow]or
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[shadow=color,direction][/shadow]
so to shadow colored text, here's the basic code--
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[shadow=color,direction][color=xxx]TEXT[/color][/shadow]
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Raineypark on July 01, 2003, 08:11:20 PM
I always WAS wretched at 'directions'....snort

(rainey ducks and runs for cover!)
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Raineypark on July 01, 2003, 08:14:37 PM
TEXT

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[shadow=cyan,left][color=yellow]TEXT[/color][/shadow]
Oh, Excellent!!
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Midnite on July 01, 2003, 08:16:01 PM
Hmmmmm....can't get rid of the three lines of "code" at the bottom of the post  ???

Looks like some extra code tags were added to the message.  Consider them gone.  :D
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Midnite on July 01, 2003, 08:19:38 PM
TEXT

[clap]

And it didn't occur to me to demonstrate shadowing colored text, so thank you for bringing it up! [bigok]
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Raineypark on July 01, 2003, 08:21:25 PM
Thanks.....but I really need to know WHY they were there.  I tried to delete all but one "close" code, but that didn't work either.  Each line had an "open" and "close" code...so why multiple "close" codes and not multiple "open" codes?

My head hurts!  [90d1]
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Midnite on July 01, 2003, 08:35:24 PM
You poor thing.  What I removed are 3 complete pairs of code tags from that post and 1 pair from another post further up the topic.  You may have inadvertently added them to your messages. [idontknow]

BTW, I don't know how you stand Explorer.  I'm using it now to see the shadow and glow results and all manner of weird things have been occurring, particularly when I use its back or reload buttons. ::)
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: dom on July 01, 2003, 08:39:47 PM
I'm not seeing any glow or shadow in these test posts (just color). Am I missing the point or is this an IE vs NS thang?

d.
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Raineypark on July 01, 2003, 08:42:46 PM
Grrrr!!!  Don't you start in on me about IE, too......Pepe tortures me about it all the time.  Like I have ANY control over this stuff in my house!!  :P

Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Midnite on July 01, 2003, 08:50:28 PM
is this an IE vs NS thang?

That be it.

Do you have Explorer on your Mac, dom?
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on July 01, 2003, 08:57:22 PM
Am I missing the point or is this an IE vs NS thang?

Yes, glow and shadow only work in IE because those two effects use Microsoft filters.


As for why the color and size tags don't work on the outside of the glow or shadow tags, one needs to know some HTML and how the system creates the glow and shadow effects to understand why that is. Glow and shadow are acheived using the style element of the td tag for table definitions. Nothing outside of a table ever affects what's inside the table. That has to be coded explicitly within the table itself.

If anyone is interested in an introductory explanation of table styles, check out:

  Tutorials -  HTML > Table Styles (http://www.comteche.com/data/tutorials/HTML/HTML_tutorials/HTML=013.asp)
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: dom on July 01, 2003, 09:04:15 PM
is this an IE vs NS thang?

That be it.

Do you have Explorer on your Mac, dom?

Internet Exploder? Yes. But as well as being a Mac [noseinair], I am also a Netscape [noseinair]. [lol2]

Geez, I hope it doesn't rain. [wink2]

Turkey dom

PS - Seriously, I've been subconciously warned not to use IE - space hog, "exploder", etc. So I avoid it like the plague. I am also under the impression that IE has something to do with Microsoft which I try to boycott in any way shape or form. Are my fears unfounded?
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Raineypark on July 01, 2003, 09:06:18 PM
 [6184] Have you NEVER heard  the expression "More Information Than I Needed"?  All we wanted here was pretty colours and cool effects..... [rleyeb]
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Minja on July 01, 2003, 09:14:47 PM
TEST  :) [/shadow]

TEST  :) [/glow]



 :P  As you can see I'm getting the shadow and glow features but can't use size with them.  I have IE.  I had NS when I had prodigy and it crashed all the damn time so I won't go back to that.  Maybe someday this Yabb thingy can get tweeked so all of us can enjoy the full range of features.  Until then I'll be patient.  I'm really not that hard to please!  :)
[/size]

Always, Minja [coolbrows][/color]
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on July 01, 2003, 09:16:02 PM
[6184] Have you NEVER heard  the expression "More Information Than I Needed"?

When it comes to surfing the Web, understanding what one is seeing, and why something isn't coming out the way one might expect it should, there's actually no such thing as too much info.

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All we wanted here was pretty colours and cool effects..... [rleyeb]

Excuse me, just doing my job - but consider me clued in. In the future I'll know to never trouble your pretty little head with explanations (i.e don't even bother to ask for them).
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on July 01, 2003, 09:20:24 PM
TEST  :) [/shadow]

TEST  :) [/glow]



 :P  As you can see I'm getting the shadow and glow features but can't use size with them.

Minja, that's because you have your size tags on the outside of your shadow and glow tags. As Midnite was demonstating in the first post in this topic, both size tags need to be inside. ;) So, this:

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[shadow=red,left][size=5]TEST  :) [/size][/shadow]

[glow=red,2,4,][size]=5]TEST  :) [/size][/glow]

will work like this:

TEST  :)

TEST  :)
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Patti Feinberg on July 02, 2003, 01:29:52 AM
[glow]test[/glow]

Okay...Midnite...what were the numbers for?

2,4??

Patti

Okay...not right...will post, go back & try to fix....


Okay...why does it show the code tags?
Are the numbers to signify which color is to "glow"?

Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Midnite on July 02, 2003, 02:03:14 AM
[glow]test[/glow]

Okay...Midnite...what were the numbers for?

2,4??
<snip>
Okay...why does it show the code tags?
Are the numbers to signify which color is to "glow"?

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[glow=color,glow width,#characters wide]your name[/glow]You're seeing the tags in your post because your code isn't complete.  Add the = sign after glow and choose a color name.  The 2 is the glow width, and the 4 is the number of characters, so to make your name glow it should be at least a 5.
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Cassandra on July 02, 2003, 08:41:27 AM
TEST[/size][/color]

TEST[/size][/color]

TEST[/size][/color]


Okay,  I think I finally got it!!

Im glad this was bought up because I could never get the "shadow & color" to go with size and thought it was something to do with IE.


Cassandra[/size][/color]
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Patti Feinberg on July 02, 2003, 01:10:03 PM
Patti
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[glow=color,glow width,#characters wide]your name[/glow]You're seeing the tags in your post because your code isn't complete.  Add the = sign after glow and choose a color name.  The 2 is the glow width, and the 4 is the number of characters, so to make your name glow it should be at least a 5.

[glow=green 2,3]Ola[/glow]

now what's wrong??? :'(
hmm

Patti

It is eluding me.....
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Minja on July 02, 2003, 01:44:50 PM
TEST  :-*

Thank You, Thank You MB! (she chortled in her joy!)[/color]

Always, Minja  :-*
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Midnite on July 02, 2003, 04:46:35 PM
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[glow=green][size=4]2,3 Ola[/glow][/size]

Patti, keep all the code inside the brackets.  That 1st tag should be

Then get that 2nd size tag inside the glow (or shadow, if you were attempting that) tags.  The code tags on either side of the text should be mirror images of each other, or in opposite order:  glow, size, text, size, glow.

Is this helping?
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Cassandra on July 03, 2003, 08:08:28 AM
Also, Patti, don't forget to put the comma in after the color as well as the number.
  Ola[/size]


(I can't tell you how many mistakes I made with this just by forgetting to add that one comma!!)  It would drive me nuts trying to figure out what I did wrong.


Hope this helps. :)

Cassandra

Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Patti Feinberg on July 03, 2003, 01:22:47 PM
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[glow=green][size=4]2,3 Ola[/glow][/size]

Patti, keep all the code inside the brackets.  That 1st tag should be
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[glow=green,2,3]

Thank
God its
FRIDAY

(For most of us)

Okay...NOW what??? The Friday should be red, not white, oops.
But why not Thank...what's wrong with coding?

Patti


Patti
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Midnite on July 03, 2003, 03:56:35 PM
Thank
God its
FRIDAY

(For most of us)

Okay...NOW what??? The Friday should be red, not white, oops.
But why not Thank...what's wrong with coding?

That opening glow tag in my post that you quoted (which didn't have a closing tag) was reacting with your closing tag around Thank, so I enclosed that one (mine) in code tags, and now you're all set.  Congrats!
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: onyx_treasure on July 03, 2003, 08:08:25 PM
[shadow=blue, left]onyx_treasure[/shadow]
   Just thought I would try this
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Patti Feinberg on July 03, 2003, 09:28:51 PM
Go Girlfriend

Why Can't I Do This??????

 :-X ::) ??? ??? ???

Patti
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Midnite on July 03, 2003, 10:55:34 PM
[glow=green 2,3]Ola[/glow]

now what's wrong??? :'(
hmm

Patti

It is eluding me.....

Oh, you've edited it-- great!  Now just go back to the post (you can use the link in this message) as Cassandra suggested and add a comma after the color name, and then it'll be perfect. :D
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Patti Feinberg on July 04, 2003, 12:22:10 AM
Also, when I did (gonna try again)
Go Girlfriend

the WORDS go & girlfriend = 12 characters; wasn't sure about spacing in between.

Patti
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Midnite on July 04, 2003, 12:34:16 AM
Go Girlfriend

the WORDS go & girlfriend = 12 characters; wasn't sure about spacing in between.

[bigok]

Just count characters.  Or you can enter 300-- that always works me for me-- so this
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[glow=red,3,300]TEXT[/glow] comes out TEXT
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Patti Feinberg on July 04, 2003, 02:07:18 AM
Is 300 one of those 'magical' all encompassing numbers (such as 127)?

Thanks for your patience ;)

Patti
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on July 04, 2003, 03:03:11 AM
Is 300 one of those 'magical' all encompassing numbers (such as 127)?

Nope. That 300 is the value of the width (in pixels - dots of light on your monitor screen) of the text you want to glow. :)

All the magic numbers are multiples of 8 ( or 16, which is itself a multiple of 8 ) or their computer representations. Remember in computers everything starts at 0 instead of 1, so 127 is often considered #128 because there are 128 numbers in the sequence 0, 1, 2, ... 127.
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Josette on July 04, 2003, 03:42:33 AM
What is the first number?  The second is the number of characters, but how do you decide what to do for the first?  So far I haven't noticed any differences in any of them.
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Midnite on July 04, 2003, 04:28:18 AM
What is the first number?

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[glow=color,glow width,#characters wide]text[/glow]
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The second is the number of characters, but how do you decide what to do for the first?  So far I haven't noticed any differences in any of them.

Maybe if they're next to each other?--

Glow width of 1:
TEST
Glow width of 2:
TEST
Glow width of 3:
TEST
Glow width of 4:
TEST
Glow width of 5:
TEST

Glow width of 5, text size=5:
TEST
Title: Re:Glow, Shadow
Post by: Josette on July 04, 2003, 10:01:23 PM
That helps!  It seems that most of the examples were 2 or 3 and there didn't seem to be a difference.