DARK SHADOWS FORUMS
General Discussions => Current Talk Archive => Current Talk '24 I => Current Talk '12 I => Topic started by: Watching Project on May 17, 2012, 04:40:30 PM
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Robservations - #213
And if you'd care to look back, the first WP discussion topic for this ep:Re: Discuss - Ep #0213
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Hey, Holy Water, check out the 2007 post I wrote. I asked: What kind of beer logo is on the taps at the bar? Or is that electrical tape covering up the logos?
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So Jason thinks that Carolyn should be the least of Elizabeth's worries. Then he tells Carolyn to stop snooping or she may get her mother into trouble, not in as-a-concerned-friend-of-her-mother's-tone either, but rather in a I-just-may-be-the-one-who-will-get-her-there tone. I was really thinking of that song Cold-Hearted Snake and thinking how perfectly it fits Jason, especially watching him mercilessly manipulate the Stoddard women in here.
But as much as I hate Jason, Dennis Patrick does a great job in his portrayal with him. In here he concentrates more on Jason's true colors, rather than the charming irish rogue facade he portrays in front of others.
I do like the scene between Carolyn and Burke though. I think Burke did regret the way he treated Carolyn, though it might have been when he finally joined the right team in the Laura storyline when he finally realized how shabbily he was in the way he used her. And to think it was Joe of all people who got them together.
Can understand why Carolyn would be reluctant at first to accept Burke's apology, not only very hurt about how he used her but also embarrassed over the fact she ignored all warnings from her mother and uncle about how Burke would break her heart into pieces.
When this aired again a few years earlier, others said it felt more soapy, and while there is some truth to that, I still found it a good episode.
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Lest we forget that Dark Shadows started out more or less as a regular soap opera, just somewhat Gothic, most of this episode is devoted to tying up a few loose ends from the Burke Devlin Saga. Carolyn is confronted by the spectacle of not just one but both of the men who recently dumped her. She goes back to Collinwood and unlike her Uncle Roger, she takes out her anger on an appropriate object--Jason McGuire.
We hear a new song on the Blue Whale jukebox--a cover of "I'll Be There," which was a hit for Gerry and the Pacemakers the year before, 1967.
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Hey, Holy Water, check out the 2007 post I wrote. I asked: What kind of beer logo is on the taps at the bar? Or is that electrical tape covering up the logos?
To your credit. I'm drinking Sam Adams Alpine Spring right now, by the way.
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That sounds pretty good. Pour me one.
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DarkLady, I enjoy your comments about the music.
Watching the scene between Burke and Carolyn, I remembered my comment on it five years ago, and enjoyed seeing how my opinion might have changed now that I've seen the pre-Barnabas episodes. I still couldn't work up much interest in it, but I noticed that Mitchell Ryan did an unusually good job on it. No line flubs that I could tell, and very nicely acted.
Once again, Joe's the solid and steady good guy. Joel Crothers plays him very sincerely. I've complained many times about how boring Joe is, and I know Joel Crothers had roughly the same complaint, so now I'm wondering: what could have been done to make him interesting? Supposing Grayson Hall had played Joe: what secret might she have added to his life, in her own mind, to keep him interesting? Supposing Jonathan Frid had played Joe: what bit of smarminess might he have added for a third dimension?
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Thanks, Lydia! *blush*
I like your comments about Joe. It would have been fun to see him, say, be in a motorcycle gang on the sly or engage in corporate espionage for Burke. Or what if he had fallen for Vicki?
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Elizabeth gets down to the essence and asks Jason how much cash will it take to get him to leave. I like how they just haven't dropped the Carolyn being in love with Burke story. I wonder if she knows that he is seeing Vickie again? And will she still be jealous?
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I wish I could identify the muzak, but it reminded me of the grocery store music, and also the knock off 45's that you could buy cheap in the dime store.
Carolyn is smart to know that something is going on with Jason and Liz. I wonder how miserable Liz must have been to have to turn to people like Paul Stoddard and who's friend was Jason.
As for Joe, didn't they need some guy in the story to be true blue. Not all the men in Collinsport needed to be bad? Wasn't he the Knight in shinning armor. JF, tired to play bad, but his niceness just came though.
[spoiler] Joel did get to play a bad guy later. Those yellow pants. [/spoiler]