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Title: Question for the Gang
Post by: Rhonda on December 17, 2002, 06:31:23 PM
"It's been sooooo long!"


Since what????

Ok, am I missing the obvious here? I was following the
whole routine between Laura and Barnabas about the
picture, and I thought she wanted Magda to burn it
because she didn't want anyone to see it and give away
the fact that it really was a portrait of her done a hundred years ago.

Am I ok so far?

Then, when she goes into the Herbal Essence routine
purring, "It's been so long, it's been so long," I had
no idea what was going on! So long since WHAT????


Since the last time she had her picture burned?

Since she saw herself in that dress?

Since a guy said he wouldn't let her get lonely?

Since Dark Shadows was on?


What was that all about?


Can I buy a clue from you guys?


Rhonda

Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: Raineypark on December 17, 2002, 07:17:54 PM
Oh Thank Gawd.....I'm not the only one who's Clueless in Collinsport!!!  

We've got too many people casting spells (VERY nice incantation today Barney!), too many "now-their-dead-whoops!-no-they're-not" characters and too damned many blonde haired bitches.  

Somebody please tell Roger Davis he can't do a British accent, (what the HELL was that voice over?) and then remind Barnabas that he's not there to stroll down memory lane ("I think I knew her when I was a child")....but to save poor David, so GET ON WITH IT!!

(....pant, pant.....I've been wrapping presents for HOURS so I'm a little cranky!)

raineypark
Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: Bernie on December 17, 2002, 08:42:24 PM
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Then, when she goes into the Herbal Essence routine purring, "It's been so long, it's been so long," I had no idea what was going on! So long since WHAT

Ok, here's my take on it.  We know Laura hasn't been "right" since Quentin extinquished the flame in the urn.  She's need assistance from Dirk, who is somehow holding the spirit of AMON RA, if that's the correct spelling.  So the portrait burning is having a kind of healing or beneficial effect on her.

We do know that Laura can sense things from afar.  Remember that she heard Sandor trying to open the entrance to her tomb, so I guess she could also feel the flame as it burned her portrait.  Anyway, that's my guess!!

Bernie
Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: Julianka7 on December 17, 2002, 08:51:48 PM
I may be wrong about this, but here's what I think.
The portraits at Collinwood usually  aren't just
portraits. Barnabas attracted Willie by having his
portrait have a heart beat. He scared Willie
and David by making it's eyes glow.
Angelique was able to influence people or should
I say put a spell on them through her portrait.
Remember Roger acting weird after staring at
Angelique portrait? Also Barnabas was able
to hurt Angelique by having Sam Evans age
her portrait using a stiff brush with sharp bristles.
Let's not forget Josette's portrait. The first one
on DS that was strange.
I won't get into Quentin's portrait, because then
I'd have to use spoilers.
Anyway the reason I think Laura acted as she did
when her portrait burned and what she meant by
what she said is this. When her portrait burned
she could feel the flames. It had "been so long"
since she'd burned.
There are people who believe that having their
picture taken steals parts of their soul. Perhaps
these portraits do have a part of the person in them?
Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: Cassandra Blair on December 17, 2002, 09:14:44 PM
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Anyway the reason I think Laura acted as she did when her portrait burned and what she meant by what she said is this. When her portrait burned she could feel the flames. It had "been so long" since she'd burned.

There are people who believe that having their picture taken steals parts of their soul. Perhaps these portraits do have a part of the person in them?


I think the latter part of this is definitely true for those who inhabit Collinwood - I wouldn't turn my back on anyone's portrait in that house! But as to the earlier part, it hadn't been very long since she'd burned.  Didn't Quentin say he'd seen her consumed by flames in Alexandria a year before?  Unless she needs to burn every month or so.  

Maybe Laura just has hot pants. ;)
Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: Raineypark on December 17, 2002, 09:32:02 PM
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Maybe Laura just has hot pants. ;)


ROFLMAO!!!

RP

Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: Rhonda on December 17, 2002, 09:56:08 PM
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Maybe Laura just has hot pants. ;)


It seemed she was having a private moment there, I'm telling ya... I wondered for a brief minute if Magda was goosing her or something.


Whatever it was, as the lady said in When Harry Met Sally,:


" I'll have whatever she's having"


Rhonda
Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: ProfStokes on December 18, 2002, 12:08:12 AM
Wow, you all have such detailed, involved rationalizations; I'd just assumed that it had been "so long" since 1785 when Laura had been alive to have her portrait painted.

ProfStokes
Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: Rhonda on December 18, 2002, 02:55:08 AM
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We've got too many people casting spells (VERY nice incantation today Barney!)


That'll do Barn, that'll do. (laughs) Ok, you won't get it if you haven't seen Babe. But I swear, when Barnabas was ramming away (so to speak) I kept thinking:

Baa-ram-ewe, baa-ram-ewe. To your breed, your fleece, your clan be true. Sheep be true. Baa-ram-ewe.


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Somebody please tell Roger Davis he can't do a British accent, (what the HELL was that voice over?)


It was his Cousin From England impression?


Rhonda
Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: Rhonda on December 18, 2002, 03:07:00 AM
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So the portrait burning is having a kind of healing or beneficial effect on her.


I think I understand what you're saying. It was warming the cockles of her heart? Kinda like the difference between warming your hands by the fire and putting them into the fire. It was warmth she felt by portrait proxy and she hadn't felt "warm" for soooo long.


Rhonda


Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: Rhonda on December 18, 2002, 03:12:52 AM
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When her portrait burned she could feel the flames. It had "been so long"since she'd burned.


This is where my confusion comes in. I thought she burned in Alexandria. Is there a difference between Laura and the Phoenix burning? Which one burned in Alexandria?

Rhonda


Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: Rhonda on December 18, 2002, 03:23:52 AM
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I'd just assumed that it had been "so long" since 1785 when Laura had been alive to have her portrait painted.


And you think she was having a good flashback to the artist who painted her?  Or just reminiscing about those good old days in the 1700's?


Rhonda[/size]
Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: Birdie on December 18, 2002, 05:01:15 AM
Been laughing ever since I heard the Roger Davis voice over.  Than we have Laura with her very private moment.  

Maybe I am just tired.  Why did I agree to go to a cookie swap and also bake cookies for work.  I think someone has my portrait and is making me do these strange things.  

Birdie
Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: The Ghost of Sarah Collins on December 18, 2002, 06:22:07 AM
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"It's been sooooo long!"


Since what????

It is my impression Laura was indicating it had been so long since she was that particular Laura Stockbridge, to once again be within her ghostly remains or inner spirit  so to speak.... she had not had those feelings in a very long time.  
Although since Barnabas said Jeremiah and Laura had no children  it is a mystery why she spoke of them.
Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: Rhonda on December 18, 2002, 07:33:21 AM
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 I think someone has my portrait and is making me do these strange things.


Hey, just burn it in the fireplace and you'll feel better in no time...  ;)

Rhonda
Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: Rhonda on December 18, 2002, 07:38:37 AM
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It is my impression Laura was indicating it had been so long since she was that particular Laura Stockbridge, to once again be within her ghostly remains or inner spirit  so to speak.... she had not had those feelings in a very long time.  


I see. So she was thinking back to 100 years ago, remembering that life. From her reaction, it was one of her better ones. Thanks for your input!


Rhonda
Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: Cassandra on December 18, 2002, 01:44:47 PM
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This is where my confusion comes in. I thought she burned in Alexandria. Is there a difference between Laura and the Phoenix burning? Which one burned in Alexandria?


The whole Laura thing has been confusing for some time now.  As a Phoenix she is suppose to "die" by fire and then resurect again back to the real world. This process is suppose to repeat itself every 100 years and out of the ashes the Phoenix is reborn again.  It gets more confusing as you go back into the years to try to trace her history.  We know that she was married to Jeremiah and according to Barnabas they had no children together.   However, somewhere along the line she must have had a child because during the early Laura episodes (1966) a seance was held and the spirit of David Murdoch Radcliff came through and said he was her son who died in a fire with his mother.  However, this was never clarified as to when or where this took place.

When Laura burned in Alexandria it was most likely her time to "die" again so she could be reborn again to claim her children.  Apparently she must have been granted a certain amount of time to do this because during this storyline and the last Laura Phoenix story she is constantly saying that she has "little time."


Cassandra[/font]
Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: Connie on December 18, 2002, 05:13:55 PM
Well, all I know is, I can't wait for Laura to be GONE.  Can't stand her and all her orgasmic moaning to Ra.  PLUS...talk about an image carved from wood...her face barely moves, and when she does show some sort of expression, it's expressionless.  Almost like her skin is too tight or something.
I cannot beLIEVE that Quentin was involved with her.  He must have been drunk most of the time or something.  LOL

-CLC  ;D
Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: Rhonda on December 18, 2002, 05:33:53 PM
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It gets more confusing as you go back into the years to try to trace her history.


It certainly does. I can't help thinking the writers hadn't really thought this through, evidenced by the conflicting child issue. Maybe they thought we wouldn't notice.

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during this storyline and the last Laura Phoenix story she is constantly saying that she has "little time."


That's confusing too. I'm not sure if she has a hundred years for each life *or* if she can die like any mortal, (so she has to be careful) but then she cannot return until the hundred year mark has came around.

I am also not sure if she needs to offer up a sacrifice to stay alive and that's what she intends to do with her children.  It's all pretty damn mysterious.


Rhonda[/font]
Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: Rhonda on December 18, 2002, 05:48:28 PM
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talk about an image carved from wood...her face barely moves, and when she does show some sort of expression, it's expressionless.  Almost like her skin is too tight or something.


As Dorothy Parker says, "She runs the gamut of emotions from A to B."

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I cannot beLIEVE that Quentin was involved with her.  He must have been drunk most of the time or something.  LOL


My theory on that is Quentin was just showing Edward he could get her if he wanted her. "You think she's yours, huh, Edward?" I'm sure he enjoyed taking Edward's wife to bed and laughing at him behind his back. Laura followed Quentin to Egypt, he didn't take her with him. Her comments to him all indicate he dumped her there. Burn, baby, burn.


Rhonda
Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: jennifer on December 18, 2002, 11:35:44 PM
i think she was getting the warmth from the burning and fire because she is starting to cool down. must be all that time spent with RD! LOL!  I detest laura and think she is far too old for Quentin(i'm in a nasty mood today!) the story of Laura never made any sense and i only hate Amanda more than her! they both make me run from the room! I'm with Connie(good company) only not believing that quentin would have anything to do with her!!
jennifer
Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: ms._hoffman on December 19, 2002, 04:37:24 AM
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Well, all I know is, I can't wait for Laura to be GONE.  Can't stand her and all her orgasmic moaning to Ra.  PLUS...talk about an image carved from wood...her face barely moves, and when she does show some sort of expression, it's expressionless.  Almost like her skin is too tight or something.
I cannot beLIEVE that Quentin was involved with her.  He must have been drunk most of the time or something.  LOL

-CLC  ;D



Orgasmic moaning - I agree and couldn't have described it better.  
Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: Cassandra on December 19, 2002, 11:51:54 AM
Connie Wrote:
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Well, all I know is, I can't wait for Laura to be GONE.  Can't stand her and all her orgasmic moaning to Ra.  PLUS...talk about an image carved from wood...her face barely moves, and when she does show some sort of expression, it's expressionless.  Almost like her skin is too tight or something.


Im with you all the way on this one!! I never cared much for her either.  What's even harder to imagine is the stuffy Edward Collins being in love with her enough to marry her!

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I cannot beLIEVE that Quentin was involved with her.  He must have been drunk most of the time or something.  LOL


And she ain't the only one!   Don't forget Amanda Harris!![smash]  Except for Beth, he never did pick a good choice of women!

Cassandra[/font]

Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: Rhonda on December 20, 2002, 03:29:58 AM
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I'm with Connie(good company) only not believing that quentin would have anything to do with her!!


I think it was nothing serious to Quentin, he was just doing it to Edward to show he could. You don't run off to Egypt and leave the person if you care about them. He may have been running from her!

Rhonda


Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: Rhonda on December 20, 2002, 03:34:28 AM
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 Except for Beth, he never did pick a good choice of women!


Angelique would have been a good match for him, don't ya think?


Rhonda[/font]


Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: Julia99 on December 21, 2002, 07:00:48 PM
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Angelique would have been a good match for him, don't ya think?



Just you wait. . ..
Title: Re: Question for the Gang
Post by: Cassandra on December 22, 2002, 10:51:03 AM
Rhonda Wrote:
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He may have been running from her!


LOL!!  You know, I never thought of it that way before but you're probably right, after all, SHE was the one who followed him there!

Cassandra[/font]