DARK SHADOWS FORUMS
General Discussions => Current Talk Archive => Current Talk '26 I => Current Talk '02 II => Topic started by: ROBINV on December 11, 2002, 11:17:07 PM
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While being interviewed during DARK SHADOWS' heydey, Humbert Allen Astredo, when asked his opinion of the show's appeal, answered, "It's the SEX!"
Now, there are those who will insist there was NO sex on DARK SHADOWS, beyond a few kisses. Others consider the vampire bite sexy, sensual, which explains why one viewer sighed and claimed, "I could smoke a whole pack of cigarettes when that Barnabas bites somebody."
There are things we KNOW happened--Carolyn and Jeb had a pretty obvious morning-after-wedding scene in which she was draped across him (in the same bed!), wearing the tops of his pajamas. He was wearing the bottoms. For DS, that was about as risque as it got.
Angelique and Barnabas had their night or nights in Martinique, and whether we believe it was a one-nighter, as some do, or a multiple, we know it was hot enough that she pursued the guy for nearly 200 years! We saw them share one BIG kiss, when Barnabas was trying to insist they be friends, not lovers, and while he tells her they have different roles to play now, it's obvious that he's tempted by her proffered game of "servant and master."
Bramwell and Catherine had their erotic moments, some on-screen, some off (their child was conceived during the commercial, but when they returned, Catherine was on the bed, looking very satisfied, while Bramwell was getting dressed). When he caresses her face and she begs him, "Don't be gentle with me," damn, *I* could smoke a whole pack of ciggies, and I don't smoke!
There are wet smooches, forbidden kisses, longing glances, but for the most part, DARK SHADOWS was subtle with its sex. Sometimes, you have someone who is obviously trying to put something over on the censors, like the 1970PT scene in which John/Cyrus licks Maggie's hairbrush!
Here's my question--
Who participated in your favorite DS love scene? What made it so special for you? Did it inspire any, er, fantasies for you? (No need to go into detail on those, unless you want to.)
Whose love scenes were boring, unbelievable and if it were up to you, would be slashed permanently from the show?
Who never shared a passionate moment on DS that you sure wish had gotten the chance?
If you could choose any ONE DARK SHADOWS couple you'd have wanted to see have a baby together, who would it be?
Have fun, folks!
Love, Robin
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For me, the most erotic scene was the one that had every schoolboy in junior high who raced home to watch the show died over and never forgot: PT1970 Quentin Collins carrying the new Mrs. Maggie (nee Evans) Collins over the threshold in her Junior Sophisticates short, short, shorty-short dress (I guess parallel time also had a Junior Sophisticates) and you could see her unmentionables. To the smitten males whose hearts raced over their sweetheart, that was undoubtedly the most sexy moment on the entire series.
Gerard
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Great questions!!!!
1. Can't say I have a favorite romantic scene from DS. I feel that DS rarely handled romantic scenes very well, which is odd, considering the importance of romance to the various plots. However, I do feel that the Bramwell-Catherine scenes from 1841 PT were the most successfully and believably romantic.
2. Least believable romantic scene? Any scene involving Roger Davis!
3. Character most deserving of romance? Dr. Julia Hoffman. The closest she came to romance was being victimized by Tom Jennings. Granted, there are worse fates a person could suffer <lol>, but Julia deserved better (e.g. shacking up with affliction-free Jennings brothers).
4. As far as characters having children, I think it's nice to think of Maggie and Joe meeting up at Wyndcliffe, falling back in love, marrying, raising a family, and living happily ever after.
Regards,
John
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Dark Shadows is a great example of how incredibly sexy a show can be without actually showing ANY sex. We can count on one hand the number of times the act itself was even hinted at during the run of the show, and yet, I venture to say that this show has inspired more sexual fantasies than Baywatch and Temptation Island put together.
That's the beauty of the way DS was written. There are so many places where your imagination gets to play! Not just about sex, but about everything! DS doesn't spoon-feed you what to think and feel all the
time, the way most soaps do now.
Some of the most romantic movies left the love scenes to the imagination. Rhett Butler carries Scarlett up the stairs and that's all we need to see...
Who participated in your favorite DS love scene?
I'm guessing this is different than fav romantic scene, and more along the lines of favorite erotic scene?
In that case, I'll have to say Angelique's vampire scenes with Joe were very hot. (fanning myself)
I also liked the scene with Tony and the lighter!
Hmmm... I think I see a pattern here (Mistress Rhonda laughs and cracks her whip) ;)
Whose love scenes were boring, unbelievable and if it were up to you, would be slashed permanently from the show?
Well... the wedding night of Jeff Clark and Vicki had to be the worst. Her matronly nightgown and the lack of chemistry between them was a real snore.
The wedding night I'm grateful they didn't show was Judith and Trask's. (shudder) When he put his hands on Rachel, I flinched. Ewwww, Ewwww, Ewwww.
Who never shared a passionate moment on DS that you sure wish had gotten the chance?
I would have liked to have seen Angelique vamp on Quentin.
If you could choose any ONE DARK SHADOWS couple you'd have wanted to see have a baby together, who would it be?
Carl and Pansy Faye. Now that kid would have a sense of humor!
Rhonda
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To the smitten males whose hearts raced over their sweetheart, that was undoubtedly the most sexy moment on the entire series.
Here you are, my dear.
(http://members.aol.com/clchalifoux/images/q-maggie-u.jpg)
;)
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Where's Ringo? Has anybody seen Ringo? <Knock, knock, knock> Ringo! Unlock that door right now! I know what you're doing in there! RINGO!!!
MomDom [evily]
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Bless you, Connie! My heart's still smitten after all these years!
Gerard
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Great questions!!!!
3. Character most deserving of romance? Dr. Julia Hoffman. The closest she came to romance was being victimized by Tom Jennings. Granted, there are worse fates a person could suffer <lol>, but Julia deserved better (e.g. shacking up with affliction-free Jennings brothers).
I agree with John that Julia was deserving of some romance ..surprise? naw? But I would say the Tom Jennings & Julia moments were highly charged with some eroticism .. .when she'd take off that scarf, her eyes were very very naughty and his tongue. . well, it said it ALL ladies!. . .
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It's funny you should mention that now, Julia. Lying awake at 3 a.m. with a light fever last night, I found myself running an outline for a brand new article: "The Eroticism of Grayson Hall."
A lot of fans might be surprised to learn just how much material there is on that topic. From the actress every college boy dreamed of getting stuck on a desert island with in 1951, to a very urbane and sophisticated courtesan in a 1955 production of "La Ronde," to a wildcat "beatnik poetess" in an "off Broadway movie" in 1957, to Stacey Keach's playmate in those X-rated scenes of End of the Road in 1968, to Warda the Queen of the Whores in 1971's The Screens. And all of that is just the tip of the iceberg.
Then there's the semi-orgasmic moment on DS during the Parallel Time 1970 storyline when button-down prim and proper Hoffman flings open the drawing room doors, sees what she thinks is her long lost love Angelique Collins, and all but melts into an incandescent puddle. It's a really shocking scene. Must be why I always feel compelled to rewind and replay it so many times every time I watch that tape.
Gothick
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It's funny you should mention that now, Julia. Lying awake at 3 a.m. with a light fever last night, I found myself running an outline for a brand new article: "The Eroticism of Grayson Hall."
Gothick
I'll look forward to reading that. . btw--what MPI vol is that PT scene on??
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Who participated in your favorite DS love scene? What made it so special for you? Did it inspire any, er, fantasies for you? (No need to go into detail on those, unless you want to.)
Well, one of my favorite love scenes was between Angelque & Barnabas when he goes to her room (1795) to ask her if they can still be friends and they wind up passionately kissing each other. I swear I've never seen him kiss anyone other woman on the show like that before! He practically sucked her whole face in with his mouth! A pretty hot scene! I always thought that these two had the best chemistry as lovers between them. You can just imagine what their nights in Martinique were like![kaiokn][kaiokn]
I thought the whole "Master/Servant scene was pretty hot too!
Another scene I liked was when Quentin takes Daphne to bed, (finally) thought that was pretty HOT!! [/size][/b] [burn]
Whose love scenes were boring, unbelievable and if it were up to you, would be slashed permanently from the show?
Oh, that would be easy. Jeff Clark & Betsy Durkin Vicky!![sleep]
Who never shared a passionate moment on DS that you sure wish had gotten the chance?
I think Julia & Roger would have made a good couple. These two needed stability in their lives when it came to relationships and I really think they could have made something out of it.
If you could choose any ONE DARK SHADOWS couple you'd have wanted to see have a baby together, who would it be?
Barnabas & Angelique! I could just imagine what the "little devil" would be like!
Cassandra[/font]
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[wavey] Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YUMMY pic of
the Q-man carrying Maggie!!!!! By any chance
could i be the one in his arms PLEASE?????????
CONNIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOVE ANNE
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For me, I think the best love scene was between Barnabas and Angelique, when she first came to Collinwood in 1795. Even though he told her to go away, these two are just genuinely hot for each other. They didn't fuel any fantasies for me, however. Most of my 1795 fantasies involve bad boy Nathan Forbes, who sadly didn't have much of an outlet for his sexy self!
As to boring love scenes, I have to vote for Burke Devlin #2 and Vicki - no chemistry. Don't buy these two together at all!
Julia would ordinarily be my choice for who should've gotten some touch but did not. However, I'm going to choose Liz Collins Stoddard. She deserved some loving! Wonder what she would've been like matched with Nicholas Blair?
For the baby-making duo, I'm curious to know what interesting plotline might center around a baby born of the Carolyn Stoddard/Jeb Hawkes pairing.
Thanks for the fun questions, Robin!
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Hi Julia,
I believe the episode I mentioned is on MPI tape 149. If I have time I can double check over the weekend.
xo Gothick
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I think a love child between Barney and Angie would have been a very interesting charactor. The writers could have had a field day with him/her.
Birdie
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I think a love child between Barney and Angie would have been a very interesting charactor. The writers could have had a field day with him/her.
Birdie
An offspring conceived by Angelique and Barnabas certainly would've been one heck of a character. But leave it to me in my weird world of humor picturing that progeny looking and acting like Lily Munster.
Gerard
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Another scene I liked was when Quentin takes Daphne to bed, (finally) thought that was pretty HOT!! [/size][/b] [burn]
When was THIS??? Did I miss something?? I don't remember him taking anyone to bed! LOL
I think Barrett and Karlen make a nice couple - in just about any of the timelines.
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Oh yes...and as far as who deserves some action, it's definitely Julia. She deserves some love and romance in her life. AND, why not Quentin!! (She should have the best). LOL
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on Dec 13th, 2002, 9:54am, Cassandra wrote:
Another scene I liked was when Quentin takes Daphne to bed, (finally) thought that was pretty HOT!!
When was THIS??? Did I miss something?? I don't remember him taking anyone to bed! LOL
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It was GERARD/ JUDAH who was about to have his way with Daphne, both in her dream wedding sequence (they were ON the bed, she in a wedding gown), and later, when they were REALLY married--- Well, he never had a chance to do the deed, it seems (though the 1970 prelude to 1840 implied otherwise) but when he first locked her in the bedroom, there WAS the threat that it WOULD have been a "very bumpy night" !!!
There were a couple of scenes in BETH'S 1897 bedroom, in one of which she's shown closing up the last of those 100's of buttons on her uniform, so obviously she and Quentin HAD been on the bed just prior, and later, when Jenny caught them and ended up getting killed, it was because of what she REALIZED they were ABOUT to do, and HAD done in the recent past.
PT 1970 Quentin's one bedroom scene with his new bride Maggie was pretty coy--- he and she TURNED AWAY from each other while changing for the night, pretty odd considering that they were still at the honeymoon stage, and he HAD carried her--- bare-legged it appears--- in that cheerleader's skirt. But I recall seeing KLS's BRA STRAP--- or slip strap?--- in that bedroom scene--- Jeepers!
As for Catherine and Bramwell, it looked as though SHE had been loved up without removing that lavender gown--- the same one she married Morgan in, later that day--- YECCCHHH! (Well, think--- it would have taken an hour to get out of and back into that thing.) And as for Bramwell, maybe ALL he removed was his TIE?
One memorable (Implied) sex scene was JOHN Yaeger giving Buffy Harrington the belt treatment--- either he beat her and raped her, or, beat her BECAUSE, perhaps like Cyrus, he COULDN'T?
Between that, and Gregory Trask's disgusting hebe-philic and possibly incestuous innuendoes, DS actually touched on the UGLIEST aspects of sexuality, while all the other soaps were merely starting to TITILLATE their viewers.
Oh, and P.S., I never thought getting bitten by a vampire or mauled by a werwewolf was all that sexy, either. What on EARTH could be WRONG with me?
Lorraine (aka Dr. Ruth)
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Great questions!!!!
3. Character most deserving of romance? Dr. Julia Hoffman. The closest she came to romance was being victimized by Tom Jennings. Granted, there are worse fates a person could suffer <lol>, but Julia deserved better (e.g. shacking up with affliction-free Jennings brothers).
John
Lucky Julia!
jennifer
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What about the lost scene when Julia and Barnabas were both drunk at the old house...
Barnabas: Julia, let me find your neck so I can bite it.
Julia: You know just how to turn someone on!
Barnabas: Let me love ya, girl!
Julia: Barnabas, boy you is scaring me!
Barnabas: Let's be sweet between the sheets, honey cheeks.
*Julia runs and locks to door, peeking out to see if anyone is coming up the path*
Barnabas: No, let's do it downstairs on the coffin.
Julia: Damn, you are creative.
*Julia pops a sedative as they go downstairs*
Barnabas: Up on the coffin, you cheap tramp.
*Julia pops another sedative*
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When was THIS??? Did I miss something?? I don't remember him taking anyone to bed! LOL
You know I could have sworn I seen this scene somewhere on the show but I was probably thinking of the movie "Night of Dark Shadows" when Quentin & Tracy (Daphne) were in bed together. I know I saw him (Quentin) gettng hot & heavy with someone in bed, now Im wondering who it was, lol!!
LorraineAAB Wrote:
It was GERARD/ JUDAH who was about to have his way with Daphne, both in her dream wedding sequence (they were ON the bed, she in a wedding gown), and later, when they were REALLY married---
Oh I see, it was Gerard! But I really don't remember the wedding gown? Was this the scene at the old house in Josette's room? That's the scene I was thinking of. Anyway, thanks for clearing this up for me.
Cassandra[/font]
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I know I saw him (Quentin) gettng hot & heavy with someone in bed, now Im wondering who it was, lol!!
Maybe you were watching Falcon Crest and didn't realize it! LOL
(http://members.aol.com/clchalifoux/images/selby-archer.jpg)
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OH MY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Connie what a sexy
pic of the Q-man [wavey] :P :P :P My computer
just steamed up or is it really me that got all hot!!!!
YUMMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love Anne
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What about the lost scene when Julia and Barnabas were both drunk at the old house...
Barnabas: Julia, let me find your neck so I can bite it.
Julia: You know just how to turn someone on!
Barnabas: Let me love ya, girl!
Julia: Barnabas, boy you is scaring me!
Barnabas: Let's be sweet between the sheets, honey cheeks.
*Julia runs and locks to door, peeking out to see if anyone is coming up the path*
Barnabas: No, let's do it downstairs on the coffin.
Julia: Damn, you are creative.
*Julia pops a sedative as they go downstairs*
Barnabas: Up on the coffin, you cheap tramp.
*Julia pops another sedative*
I can't stop laughing.......I must maintain some composure now or my family will cart me away.
But seriously, I can think of three really sensual scenes:
1: Angelique and Barnabas in 1795 (his room-hot,hot,hot)
2. Catherine and Bramwell in 1840PT (he straightening out his tie afterwards and her dreamy, pleased look)
3. Kendrick and Millicent in 1840PT (lying on her bed together-nice camera work!)
A scene I think that deserves an 'honorable mention' is the very pleased, satisfied look on Josette's face after Barnabas left her room that night. Maybe not because of sex in the usual way but something dam close to it!).
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I also remember that dreamy satisfied look on Josette's face after she awoke from her "honeymoon" night with Jeremiah at the hotel. Now, we know that she was under a spell but it sure was one powerful aphodisiac and seem to do wonders for her! [kaiokn]
Cassandra