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General Discussions => Testing. 1, 2, 3... => Topic started by: Connie on December 04, 2002, 12:36:14 AM

Title: Slowness
Post by: Connie on December 04, 2002, 12:36:14 AM
Is the forum crawling along for anybody else?  I can't get anywhere on here without waiting forever for the pages to load.  Nothing else is moving slowly, just the board.
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Bernie on December 04, 2002, 01:05:45 AM
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Is the forum crawling along for anybody else?  I can't get anywhere on here without waiting forever for the pages to load.  Nothing else is moving slowly, just the board.

I'm on Broadband, and it's very slow here too, Connie.  But at least it's up!!

Bernie

Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Mark Rainey on December 04, 2002, 01:13:43 AM
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Is the forum crawling along for anybody else?

Yes. :/

--Mark
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Connie on December 04, 2002, 02:02:45 AM
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Yes. :/


Ah....okay then.  I'll stop jumping through hoops.
(Huh?)

;D
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 04, 2002, 04:17:20 AM
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Is the forum crawling along for anybody else?  I can't get anywhere on here without waiting forever for the pages to load.  Nothing else is moving slowly, just the board.

See "Slow board last night?", currently the 10th topic down on this page. :)


I'm using a dial-up connection, and as you can see, things are just breezing along for me at the moment...

(http://www.dsboards.com/images/plot2.jpg)


...which is nice, considering all the trouble I was having just trying to get through at all the other day (see "Forum unavailable - just curious").  I'm even doing a backup of the forum while I post this. ;)
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Midnite on December 04, 2002, 06:44:47 AM
I don't know if Connie, Mark, and Bernie were still experiencing the slowness at the time MB did the traceroute, but I was doing a backup at the same time they were posting about it (~ 5 hours ago) and I swear the files were zipping by at their usual pace.  (I have DSL, but shhh, don't let MB hear that. [sssh])  Anyway, whatever caused the forum to slow to a crawl for you guys wasn't the fault of the server... this time. ;)
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Mark Rainey on December 04, 2002, 07:36:37 AM
It's very intermittent here. When I just tried to enter the forum, it took a couple of minutes to get beyond the main page. But then once I started accessing new topics, it picked up to normal speed.

--M
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Connie on December 04, 2002, 01:01:53 PM
OKAY!!   That's IT!!
One more of these wacko charts from MB that I don't understand, and I'm bricking him up in the Old House basement.

Here's MB's chart refurbished: (yeah...I got your chart right HERE!!)

MB writes:

(http://members.aol.com/clchalifoux/images/chart.jpg)
I hope he makes it to the Fest 'cause I've already ordered the bricks and mortar from the Brooklyn Marriott and they have it standing by for me.

;)  -CLC

(I'm dead)
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Mark Rainey on December 04, 2002, 03:33:28 PM
And we thought Connie wasn't tech-savvy. HA! ;)

--Mark
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Midnite on December 04, 2002, 06:49:51 PM
Girl, you're a riot!  The pffffft is my favorite, hee hee.

Yep, you're dead.
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 06, 2002, 08:30:21 AM
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(I have DSL, but shhh, don't let MB hear that. [sssh])

But I'm not bitter that I tried to sign up for DSL 11 months ago only to find out that there were no open ports in Verizon's local hub - or that I've been waiting for all those months for a port to become open or for Verizon to get their act together and install more ports. No, not at all. And as proof of that, the letter bomb I'd laced with Anthrax is still sitting on my table, unmailed...
(Just kidding, of course. ;))

But tell me this, Ms. Smartypants - what good has your DSL connection been during the last 8 hours that I've spent restoring the forum from the backup I'd (thankfully) made about 30 minutes before the server went haywire yesterday, hmmm? [wink2]
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Bernie on December 06, 2002, 08:51:06 AM
I've never had DSL, I'm just a few miles too far out, but I'm very happy with the speed that AT@T Broadband provides.  I can download up to 1.5 MBs a second, which is way more than enough for me.  Not to say that their tech support is wonderful, and their usenet server is far from perfect, but the speed is good.  

From what I hear, Verizon does have it's share of problems too!!

Bernie
Title: Re: Slownessn
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 06, 2002, 09:07:50 AM
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From what I hear, Verizon does have it's share of problems too!!

Verizon DSL is supposedly really bad. They ranked next to last in PC Magazine's reader's poll. (Beaten by AOL, who came in worst. No surprise there. [wink2])

I actually want to sign up with another DSL service, but I still have to connect to them through Verizon's local hub because Verizon is my phone company. If I'd wanted Verizon DSL, they'd probably already have the ports installed, but I suppose they could care less about installing ones for the competition. [lghy]
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Bernie on December 06, 2002, 09:17:56 AM
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I actually want to sign up with another DSL service, but I still have to connect to them through Verizon's local hub because Verizon is my phone company. If I'd wanted Verizon DSL, they'd probably already have the ports installed, but I suppose they could care less about installing ones for the competition. [lghy]

Yeah, people like Verizon aren't too thrilled when there not the only kid on the block! Here in Massachusetts, AT&T Broadband has recently opened their network to other companies to provide internet broadband.  We now have the option of having Earthlink as our provider.  So maybe there's still hope for freedom of access??

Bernie
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Midnite on December 06, 2002, 09:31:09 AM
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But I'm not bitter that I tried to sign up for DSL 11 months ago only to find out that there were no open ports in Verizon's local hub - or that I've been waiting for all those months for a port to become open or for Verizon to get their act together and install more ports. No, not at all. And as proof of that, the letter bomb I'd laced with Anthrax is still sitting on my table, unmailed...

See my comment on Current Talk.

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But tell me this, Ms. Smartypants - what good has your DSL connection been during the last 8 hours that I've spent restoring the forum from the backup I'd (thankfully) made about 30 minutes before the server went haywire yesterday, hmmm? [wink2]

I backed up on Wednesday, but how was I supposed to know the server would go bonkers the following morning?  I said I had DSL, not ESP.

[lghy]
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 06, 2002, 09:36:48 AM
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I said I had DSL, not ESP.

[lghy]

No, I suppose that's my department. [winkb]
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Midnite on December 06, 2002, 10:01:06 AM
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No, I suppose that's my department. [winkb]

LOL!

I really just wanted to make my 1000th post tonite.  Yes, I'm fluffing.  The forum administrators have gone to hell in a hand basket. ::)
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: ProfStokes on December 06, 2002, 10:58:15 AM
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I really just wanted to make my 1000th post tonite.  Yes, I'm fluffing.  The forum administrators have gone to hell in a hand basket. ::)


After all the hell you folks have been through working to fix the forums for us, I'd say you've earned the right.

It's so good to be back! :)

ProfStokes
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Raineypark on December 06, 2002, 07:36:22 PM
None of you people has a freaking clue what Forum Hell really is.  I don't want to hear any more bitchin' from anyone who actually CAN get on the forum....this is my first successful log on in a week.   I thought it was a disaster when the pages froze and the posts disappeared, and certain threads refused to open no matter how I tried to get at them.  But nothing compares to not being able to get on here at all....and no, it wasn't because the server had a nervous breakdown!  Unfortunately, no one seems to have a clue WHAT the problem is.

So quit 'cher bellyachin'!!  >:(

rainey
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: dom on December 06, 2002, 08:32:07 PM
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...this is my first successful log on in a week.   I thought it was a disaster when the pages froze and the posts disappeared, and certain threads refused to open no matter how I tried to get at them.  But nothing compares to not being able to get on here at all....and no, it wasn't because the server had a nervous breakdown!  Unfortunately, no one seems to have a clue WHAT the problem is.

So quit 'cher bellyachin'!!  >:(

rainey


I've sent you a bottle of virtual pepto bismol. Drink half of it and log in, in the morning...

Dr. MomDom ;) :)
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Cassandra on December 06, 2002, 11:17:41 PM
MB Wrote:
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I'm using a dial-up connection, and as you can see, things are just breezing along for me at the moment...


MB,  how do you get to those graph's?  Is there a link that you have to go to to get that?  

Cassandra[/font]
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Mark Rainey on December 07, 2002, 12:47:16 AM
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MB,  how do you get to those graph's?  Is there a link that you have to go to to get that?

Cassandra, that's from a program called Ping Plotter. It provides a traceroute to IP of your choice and illustrates the hops using the graph. It's a $15 program, I believe, available from http://www.pingplotter.com. There's a freeware version, but I've never used it so I don't know what features it has (or doesn't have).

It's a nice little tool to have if you're interested in figuring out where your logjams are; if you don't do traceroutes from time to time now, though, it's probably not a real great investment for you.

--Mark
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 07, 2002, 01:30:00 AM
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Cassandra asked:
>MB,  how do you get to those graph's?  Is there a link
>that you have to go to to get that?

Cassandra, that's from a program called Ping Plotter.

Thank you, MR. ;)
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Mark Rainey on December 07, 2002, 01:51:46 AM
NP, MB.

MR

"I am not the Mysterious Benefactor. I am the Great Went."
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Cassandra on December 07, 2002, 01:24:28 PM
Mark Wrote:
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Cassandra, that's from a program called Ping Plotter. It provides a traceroute to IP of your choice and illustrates the hops using the graph. It's a $15 program, I believe, available from www.pingplotter.com. There's a freeware version, but I've never used it so I don't know what features it has (or doesn't have).

It's a nice little tool to have if you're interested in figuring out where your logjams are; if you don't do traceroutes from time to time now, though, it's probably not a real great investment for you.


Thanks Mark. I checked out the site and will probably try out the free software for now just to see how it goes.  Maybe then I'll get some answers to some of my computer problems, especially the ones that Im constantly blaming AOL for!
 
Cassandra[/font]

Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Connie on December 07, 2002, 03:07:26 PM
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It's a nice little tool to have if you're interested in figuring out where your logjams are...

[wavey]
Logjams?  (I got yer logjams right here)

(http://members.aol.com/clchalifoux/images/sit.jpg)

Ya know, with the board crawling most of the time for me, I thought...well, why don't I try Netscape Navigator, 'cause MB has said it's much better than IE.  Well I downloaded it and used it a little, then tried to get on here and I got a message saying it wouldn't work with this board.

-CLC
(ready for the funny farm)  [roll3]

Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 07, 2002, 11:40:40 PM
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Ya know, with the board crawling most of the time for me, I thought...well, why don't I try Netscape Navigator, 'cause MB has said it's much better than IE.  Well I downloaded it and used it a little, then tried to get on here and I got a message saying it wouldn't work with this board.

Connie, you must have inadvertently downloaded the older version of Netscape, Netscape Communicator 4.x. But any version of Netscape 6.x will work fine. In fact, I'm using 6.2.3 to post this. ;)
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Connie on December 08, 2002, 12:21:13 AM
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Connie, you must have inadvertently downloaded the older version of Netscape, Netscape Communicator 4.x. But any version of Netscape 6.x will work fine. In fact, I'm using 6.2.3 to post this. ;)


MB...[wavey]
I downloaded Netscape 7.0
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 08, 2002, 04:31:15 AM
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MB...[wavey]
I downloaded Netscape 7.0

Ooooh - sorry about that. Midnite and I have posted that Netscape 7.0 doesn't work with the forum yet, but perhaps you missed them or simply forgot. (If you're anything like me, you've probably been doing a lot of forgetting lately. For instance, I forgot all about Netscape 7.0 when I answered your post. [lghy])

There are a few security issues with Netscape 7.x that have to be worked out before we'll let people use it. Unfortunately, with everything that's been going on with the forum during the past few months, I haven't been able to hunt around the 'Net to see if anyone has come up with a fix for them - and I certainly haven't had the time to experiment on my own. But hopefully the ban on 7.x will be lifted soon ;)
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Connie on December 08, 2002, 04:44:17 AM
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...but perhaps you missed them or simply forgot. (If you're anything like me, you've probably been doing a lot of forgetting lately.)


Yes -- sadly the case.  I can't remember ANYTHING at all.
(old age creeping in, mental instability, etc.)

Well, would it be worth it to go download a different version?  Does the board really work a lot better with it?  I was also interested in it 'cause I wanted to mess around with the Communicator program and see what I could do with it.  I'll go to any lengths to avoid learning HTML.  Too complicated and time consuming.

-CLC  [silly]
Mentally challenged



Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: Nancy on December 08, 2002, 07:48:51 AM
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I'll go to any lengths to avoid learning HTML.  Too complicated and time consuming.

-CLC  [silly]
Mentally challenged



Believe me, Connie, if I can learn HTML anybody can. No joke!

Nancy
Title: Re: Slowness
Post by: jennifer on December 10, 2002, 09:49:15 AM
This whole thread has given me a massive headache
and I HATE AT&T Broadband(at least the cable)

jennifer
Title: Re: Slownessn
Post by: kuanyin on December 13, 2002, 07:41:24 AM
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Verizon DSL is supposedly really bad. They ranked next to last in PC Magazine's reader's poll. (Beaten by AOL, who came in worst. No surprise there. [wink2])


I'm so glad I came into this discussion as I am going to be signing up for DSL quite soon. Right now, DirectTV sounds like the likely one, how did they rate?

If I have a new address, will I be able to keep my wondrous posting glory? I wouldn't be locked at as a newbie (GASP!), would I?

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I actually want to sign up with another DSL service, but I still have to connect to them through Verizon's local hub because Verizon is my phone company.


Eww, do you think that will be a problem for me?
Title: Re: Slownessn
Post by: Bernie on December 13, 2002, 07:47:06 AM
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Right now, DirectTV sounds like the likely one, how did they rate?
Eww, do you think that will be a problem for me?

I didn't even know that DirectTV was in the DSL business.  They're the satellite TV service people, aren't they??

Bernie

Title: Re: Slownessn
Post by: kuanyin on December 13, 2002, 08:10:47 AM
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I didn't even know that DirectTV was in the DSL business.  They're the satellite TV service people, aren't they??


Yes, they are, but you don't have to have one to get the other. Unfortunately, it turns out I am 4,400 feet past what they deem acceptable. It looks like Covad, who I have never even heard of.

Right now, my phone lines are so bad that with a 56k modem I only connect at 26,400. I'm assuming that won't affect the DSL. Even if I'm not the fastest DSL connection in town, it would have to be a lot better than what I have now. I think.
Title: Re: Slownessn
Post by: Bernie on December 13, 2002, 09:12:07 AM
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Unfortunately, it turns out I am 4,400 feet past what they deem acceptable.

Yeah, the same thing happened to me with Verizon.  Just a few miles too far out. Fortunately, AT&T Broadband came in soon after that with internet high speed service. Good luck, I hope you get a service provider soon.

Bernie
Title: Re: Slownessn
Post by: Midnite on December 13, 2002, 07:05:15 PM
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If I have a new address, will I be able to keep my wondrous posting glory? I wouldn't be locked at as a newbie (GASP!), would I?

Getting a new address or server won't bump you from your account.  Just visit www.dsboards.com with your new setup, click Login, then enter your regular username and password to get access to post as kuanyin.

We do ask that you update your email addy on the forums when you have the chance.  Click Profile, then enter the new address and save the change.  Anytime you change your registered email address a new p/w is sent out, so I'd recommend you change it after you've finished reading and posting for that particular session in case there's a delay in receiving it because you'll find yourself locked out of your account without it.  If the new p/w doesn't arrive in your mailbox within a reasonable amount of time, please just let MB or myself know (MysteriousB@dsboards.com or Midnite@dsboards.com).
Title: Re: SlownessI
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 16, 2002, 04:04:10 AM
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I'm so glad I came into this discussion as I am going to be signing up for DSL quite soon. Right now, DirectTV sounds like the likely one, how did they rate?

Very well. But unfortunately...

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I didn't even know that DirectTV was in the DSL business.

...not many people did, which is probably why they announced this past Friday (the 13th) that they're going out of business. :( Over the next 30 days they'll be transitioning their subscribers to other DSL services.