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Title: Grandmama
Post by: Maria_Merriweather on October 23, 2002, 09:38:14 PM
Grandmama Edith is one female who can't be swayed by Quentin's charm.  He couldn't weasel the secret out of her.  I guess it was a blooper when she called him Edward instead of Quentin but many older people are forgetful--they will go through several names before they get it right.   (http://www.dsboards.com/YaBBImages/witch.gif)
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: jennifer on October 23, 2002, 10:31:51 PM
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Grandmama Edith is one female who can't be swayed by Quentin's charm.  He couldn't weasel the secret out of her.  I guess it was a blooper when she called him Edward instead of Quentin but many older people are forgetful--they will go through several names before they get it right.   (http://www.dsboards.com/YaBBImages/witch.gif)


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isn't just a trait of old people Maria! do it all the time!heehee
but you have to be old to resist Quentin!

jennifer
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: Gothick on October 23, 2002, 10:55:29 PM
My favorite blooper from this period is when Quentin refers to her as Grandma-mamma!

Gothick
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: onyx_treasure on October 23, 2002, 11:07:32 PM
    Can anyone tell me when the famous "Grandmamamama" blooper is? I don't want to miss that one.
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: VAM on October 24, 2002, 01:03:59 AM
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...you have to be old to resist Quentin!

jennifer

WHO (besides Granny) have you surveyed?
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: Annie on October 24, 2002, 03:03:52 AM
:P :P   Hi, gang i know if i was Grandmama
I WOULD NEVER BE TOO OLD TO FALL FOR THE Q-MAN
YUMMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Love Anne
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: kuanyin on October 24, 2002, 03:14:43 AM
I thought it a little odd, that "Grandmamamma" would tell her grandson that he makes her feel young! That very much implies a flirtatious aspect to their relationship, for me. (Most of us feel quite OLD at the thought of a grandchild, and he wasn't her first either.) Leave it to Quentin!

GREAT chemistry in the scene with Terry Crawford BTW! They are so gorgeous together.
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: Connie on October 24, 2002, 06:08:17 AM
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:P :P   Hi, gang i know if i was Grandmama
I WOULD NEVER BE TOO OLD TO FALL FOR THE Q-MAN
YUMMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Me neither.

Ah...what a glorious day.  Finally...The Q-Man Speaketh.

How come no one's mentioned that great line from today?  It's one of my all-time favorites:

"You're quite right, Grandmama!  Seeing Edward IS reason enough to die."
ROFL -- love it.

Love Grandmama too -- she's great.

(http://members.aol.com/clchalifoux/images/q-grandmama.jpg)

HI ANNIE !!!!!!!!  [wavey]

YUMMY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-CLC
In a silly mood
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: Luciaphile on October 24, 2002, 03:57:54 PM
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I thought it a little odd, that "Grandmamamma" would tell her grandson that he makes her feel young! That very much implies a flirtatious aspect to their relationship, for me. (Most of us feel quite OLD at the thought of a grandchild, and he wasn't her first either.) Leave it to Quentin!


I admit I'm biased, but I've always thought that Grandmama (both now and in 1840 before she's a grandmama) and her relationship with all of her grandchildren is more than a little odd :)

Luciaphil
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: VAM on October 24, 2002, 07:41:04 PM
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How come no one's mentioned that great line from today?  It's one of my all-time favorites:

"You're quite right, Grandmama!  Seeing Edward IS reason enough to die."
ROFL -- love it.

What are the others? I am willing to bet they are also from the lips of Quentin!;)
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: Eleanor_Rigby on October 24, 2002, 08:38:31 PM
Today he said, "Grandmama-mama."

I hadn't noticed it before but read the posts about the blooper.  It didn't sound so obviously a slip.
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: jennifer on October 24, 2002, 08:55:19 PM
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WHO (besides Granny) have you surveyed?


good question Vam sounds like a new poll!

jennifer
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: jennifer on October 24, 2002, 09:00:27 PM
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I thought it a little odd, that "Grandmamamma" would tell her grandson that he makes her feel young! That very much implies a flirtatious aspect to their relationship, for me. (Most of us feel quite OLD at the thought of a grandchild, and he wasn't her first either.) Leave it to Quentin!

GREAT chemistry in the scene with Terry Crawford BTW! They are so gorgeous together.

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I love Beth she was so great with Quentin
and seeing Quentin the first time speaking was as
Anne would say
YUMMY
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have to say though that Grandma Edith was a bit more than odd!meanand nasty kinda like my old gym teacher in Jr high!

jennifer
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: Nancy on October 25, 2002, 12:27:00 AM
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I thought it a little odd, that "Grandmamamma" would tell her grandson that he makes her feel young!


My experience has been the contrary.  My grandparents told me on many occasions one of the reasons they enjoyed having me visit them and stay for prolonged periods of time was because I "made them feel younger."  One of the joys, in their mind, of having grandchildren was having the perfect excuse to being a "kid" again in some respects and doing some things people their age didn't normally do.

It was a good reminder of how much age tends to be in our heads rather than our hearts.

nancy
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: Gerard on October 25, 2002, 01:53:59 AM
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I guess it was a blooper when she called him Edward instead of Quentin but many older people are forgetful--they will go through several names before they get it right.   (http://www.dsboards.com/YaBBImages/witch.gif)


Even though it was an obvious blooper, it couldn't've been better timed, with Grandmamamamamama saying how easily she now confused all of them in her old age, thinking Edward was Carl and Carl was Quentin and Quentin was Judith.  Well, maybe not that.

Gerard
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: Afan on October 25, 2002, 03:20:43 AM
SPOILER...

?!?I am confused (ala Vicki) I thought that Gabriel, her husband, strangled Edith in 1840.  Terry played Edith in that time period.  Am I wrong? Is this a different Edith? Or did the writers goof again?
Afan
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: VictoriaWintersRox on October 25, 2002, 03:51:00 AM
SPOILERS.....

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?!?I am confused (ala Vicki) I thought that Gabriel, her husband, strangled Edith in 1840.  Terry played Edith in that time period.  Am I wrong? Is this a different Edith? Or did the writers goof again?
Afan

Yep, it's the same Edith. It's very messed up. Someone in 1970 must've been thinking "Oh, remember that old lady in 1897? Let's bring her back!". By the end of the storyline they must've forgotten about that and just proceded to get rid of her. Another continuity mix up.
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: Birdie on October 25, 2002, 04:47:09 AM
Great dialogue today.  Thourghly enjoyed catching up wtih the last couple of days shows.  I thought the Grandmother was wonderful, yes odd, not so nice but intriqueing charactor.  Too tired to say or try to spell much more tonight.

I think I will have pleasant dreams after watching a certian tall, dark, and handsome man.  Be still my heart.

Birdie
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: Luciaphile on October 25, 2002, 05:28:26 AM

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?!?I am confused (ala Vicki) I thought that Gabriel, her husband, strangled Edith in 1840.  Terry played Edith in that time period.  Am I wrong? Is this a different Edith? Or did the writers goof again?
Afan


It's the same Edith.  Big, big continuity error.  My favorite explanation stems from an essay in one of the corcordances.  Namely, that Edith, who had been initiated into Gerard's coven, struck some sort of a deal after being strangled and "came back to life," presumably wrested control of the finances and family from Quentin I and Tad and ruled the Collins clan until senility set in.

Luciaphil
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: jennifer on October 25, 2002, 07:48:41 AM
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It's the same Edith.  Big, big continuity error.  My favorite explanation stems from an essay in one of the corcordances.  Namely, that Edith, who had been initiated into Gerard's coven, struck some sort of a deal after being strangled and "came back to life," presumably wrested control of the finances and family from Quentin I and Tad and ruled the Collins clan until senility set in.

Luciaphil


works for me!

jennifer
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: Connie on October 25, 2002, 11:35:50 AM
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What are the others? I am willing to bet they are also from the lips of Quentin!;)


Hmm...my mind's a blank at the moment.  But ya know a line I liked from one of yesterday's shows?  When Magda comes to give Grandmamamamamama the message about the mysterious visitor, and Judith goes:
"I'll leave YOU to listen to the warning, Quentin.  I think it's only fair that it should pass from one charlatan to another."

ROFL!  That was great.

-CLC  ;)

Oh!  This has nothing to do with Grandmamamamama, but ya know what I appreciated about the second show yesterday?  In that great scene with Beth and Quentin when she slaps him.  For once we got a real slap in the face -- not a phony one with a sound effect.

[thumb]  
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: CastleBee on October 25, 2002, 03:37:51 PM
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I guess it was a blooper when she called him Edward instead of Quentin but many older people are forgetful--they will go through several names before they get it right.


Gotta agree there MM...there were 10 children in my mom's family and by the time my grandmother hit her mid-60's there were about 40 plus grandchildren too.  Some days you never knew who was going to get called by what name.  So, that scene seemed perfectly normal to my ears (then and now) [roll3].  

As to Quentin's (Selby's) appeal, as far as I can tell, it seems to span a huge age range.  My mom is 77 and she thinks he's pretty hot [nuts] too - loves his eyes (she also thought he was the only person on Falcon Crest who could act).  When we were at the 2001 Fest in NYC, my sister and I got her a signed 8X10 glossy of him.
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: Connie on October 25, 2002, 04:05:54 PM
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My mom is 77 and she thinks he's pretty hot [nuts] too - loves his eyes (she also thought he was the only person on Falcon Crest who could act).


Well, your mom is absolutely right.
[beer]
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: Carol on October 25, 2002, 04:18:14 PM
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Gotta agree there MM...there were 10 children in my mom's family and by the time my grandmother hit her mid-60's there were about 40 plus grandchildren too.  Some days you never knew who was going to get called by what name.  So, that scene seemed perfectly normal to my ears (then and now) [roll3]


Hey, I'm 53 and I do that now. Even my husband sometimes gets called by the cats name and vice versa!
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: Eleanor_Rigby on October 25, 2002, 05:44:11 PM
Grandmama looks and acts like an old dear but there is something very odd about the way she interacts with the family.

Today her grandson chokes and threatens her but when Judith comes in and interrupts, Grandmama does not tell on Quentin.

That's odd, isn't it?  Maybe she is trying to protect Quentin but why?

She treats Judith like a servant.  She treats Edward like some kind of king.

No wonder they squabble with and hold grudges against each other.
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: Julianka7 on October 25, 2002, 05:54:27 PM
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It's the same Edith.  Big, big continuity error.  My favorite explanation stems from an essay in one of the corcordances.  Namely, that Edith, who had been initiated into Gerard's coven, struck some sort of a deal after being strangled and "came back to life," presumably wrested control of the finances and family from Quentin I and Tad and ruled the Collins clan until senility set in.

Luciaphil

That's the best explaination I hear Luciaphil ;)
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: Julia99 on October 25, 2002, 06:37:07 PM
uhh do they ever say where the Terrible Trios parents are?  Why is JUST Grandmama around?
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: Cassandra Blair on October 25, 2002, 11:33:53 PM
I'm with Luciaphil.  Grandmama(ma) was NOT some sweet old lady.  My guess is she'd dabbled in the dark arts before we first see her.  She might very well have 'taken care' of the prior generation of Collinses so that she could rule the roost with no interference.
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: dom on October 26, 2002, 10:04:34 AM
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Today her grandson chokes and threatens her but when Judith comes in and interrupts, Grandmama does not tell on Quentin.

That's odd, isn't it?  Maybe she is trying to protect Quentin but why?




The only plausible explanation I can come up with is that she knew Quentin was just trying to scare the secret out of her, and that he wouldn't actually kill her.

Dom
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: Connie on October 26, 2002, 11:37:13 AM
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The only plausible explanation I can come up with is that she knew Quentin was just trying to scare the secret out of her, and that he wouldn't actually kill her.


I agree.  She knows him only too well.  When she was talking to Judith afterwards, she merely referred to him as a "bully".

(Yes...he's very naughty).  ;)
Title: Re: Grandmama
Post by: Carol on October 26, 2002, 04:19:52 PM
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I agree.  She knows him only too well.  When she was talking to Judith afterwards, she merely referred to him as a "bully". (Yes...he's very naughty).  ;)


This reminds me of that Seinfeld storyline with Babu...
"Quentin is a very bad man...very bad," as he's shaking his finger back and forth.  LOL.