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Title: DS GHOST GUIDE
Post by: VAM on September 09, 2002, 11:46:59 AM
Both Quentin Collins and Gerard Stiles first arrive on the present day scene as ghosts. Which one proves more sinister/frightening and why?
Title: Re:  DS GHOST GUIDE
Post by: onyx_treasure on September 09, 2002, 04:07:57 PM
    I found Quentin's haunting of Collinwood the most frightening.  The atmosphere was very creepy.  Mrs Johnson conveys a feeling of forboding.  Spoiler                                                                                The telephone aspect was especially spooky.      
Title: Re:  DS GHOST GUIDE
Post by: Maria_Merriweather on September 09, 2002, 04:14:56 PM
Hi onyx_treasure! I haven't seen the Quentin storyline yet--will be watching it for the first time. I like a good ghost story.  :o
Title: Re:  DS GHOST GUIDE
Post by: Craig_Slocum on September 09, 2002, 05:20:07 PM
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Which one proves more sinister/frightening and why?

SPOILER

In 1968 I was 4 years old. As a child, I thought Quentin was more scary because of what he did to David Collins. I also recall something like, Quentin being in a picture, and he came out of it. That was scary.
Title: Re:  DS GHOST GUIDE
Post by: The Ghost of Sarah Collins on September 09, 2002, 07:23:14 PM
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Both Quentin Collins and Gerard Stiles first arrive on the present day scene as ghosts. Which one proves more sinister/frightening and why?

I feel Gerard Stiles was the most sinister as well as frightening,  his scowling features always meant he was in a rather nasty mood... also when he smiled it seemed as though he was angry still...

Quentin's friendly smile was one that would put anyone at ease until he stopped smiling.

Thus this is my answer.... Gerard was the most evil, although this may have been because he was not actually Gerard.
(I shall not spoil this by mentioning who)
Title: Re:  DS GHOST GUIDE
Post by: kuanyin on September 09, 2002, 08:07:10 PM
They are both pretty gosh darn creepy. I'm going to go with Gerard though, because he never got any better.

Quentin may have been scarier to start with, but, fortunately for us he loses the vote because he went on to become a real character.
Title: Re:  DS GHOST GUIDE
Post by: Afan on September 09, 2002, 09:36:40 PM
I agree with above.  Quentin was the best, but Gerard was the most evil and he was unredeemable as long as he was alive.
Afan
Title: Re:  DS GHOST GUIDE
Post by: jennifer on September 10, 2002, 03:51:13 AM
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I agree with above.  Quentin was the best, but Gerard was the most evil and he was unredeemable as long as he was alive.

agree with above too, Gerard looked more evil and was!

jennifer
Title: Re:  DS GHOST GUIDE
Post by: ProfStokes on September 10, 2002, 04:00:06 AM
Gerard looked creepier, but I think that Quentin was more menacing.  As Craig_Slocum mentioned, he was violent toward David and Amy, and he encouraged them to be violent in turn.  I don't recall Gerard persuading the children to kill their family members.  

ProfStokes
Title: Re:  DS GHOST GUIDE
Post by: Midnite on September 10, 2002, 07:00:20 AM
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Gerard looked creepier, but I think that Quentin was more menacing.

I agree!

Which ghost killed more often during their reigns of terror-- Gerard or Quentin?
Title: Re:  DS GHOST GUIDE
Post by: ProfStokes on September 10, 2002, 07:22:56 AM
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Which ghost killed more often during their reigns of terror-- Gerard or Quentin?

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Before B&J changed history, Gerard was responsible for the deaths of Daphne, David, Hallie, Elizabeth, Jeanne Flagler, Mrs. Johnson, and Carolyn.

Quentin killed Janet Findley and Ezra Braithwaite and tried to kill Chris Jennings and Roger.

ProfStokes
Title: Re:  DS GHOST GUIDE
Post by: Cassandra on September 10, 2002, 08:42:01 AM
Im going with Gerard. He just seemed so much more evil to me. Quentin was scary at first too, but I think the presence of Beth's ghost seemed to soften him a bit.
Gerard always had that evil grin and for the longest time we seemed to know nothing about him. While at least with Quentin, we knew alittle something about him and of course, that he was a Collins. Gerard's ghost was such a mystery for so long and I think that added to the scary aspect of it.[ghost]
Title: Re:  DS GHOST GUIDE
Post by: Connie on September 10, 2002, 09:13:34 AM
I vote for...

Quentin ![/color]  (The ghost-est with the most-est)[/color][/b]

Gee...that was insightful, wasn't it?

;D
Title: Re:  DS GHOST GUIDE
Post by: ROBINV on September 10, 2002, 11:17:45 AM
SPOILER!






Gerard had that Elvis-like sneer that always creeped me ut.  He just looked so damned mean!  He did what he did for hate.  He was possessed by the spirit of Judah Zachary, a really bad dude, who possessed Gerard and made him to evil things.

Quentin actually was doing what he did because of someone he loved--Jamison.   He had the wrong way of showing it, and went about it cruelly, but he was twisted in a human way.  The way David and Amy communicated with him, via a disconnected telephone, was pretty damned frightening!

Love, Robin
Title: Re:  DS GHOST GUIDE
Post by: sheenasma on September 10, 2002, 03:03:28 PM
Oh Quentin was THE ghost on DS.  You could tell the whole time he was haunting Collinwood that he himself was a very haunted soul.  Gerard was absolutely the more evil of the two, but Quentin the most effective.  Even his companion ghost added to the flavor....Beth was sad and poignant, Daphne, well, she was pretty insipid.

The whole set up to 1840 was a pale comparison.  The Quentin/Beth haunting was unparalleled.  And 1897 rules.

Nancy
Title: Re:  DS GHOST GUIDE
Post by: Karen_#2 on September 10, 2002, 04:41:32 PM
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I vote for...

Quentin ![/color]  (The ghost-est with the most-est)[/color][/b]

Gee...that was insightful, wasn't it?

;D

Hey Connie!
We all know Quentin ROCKS[/color] in the MOST-EST department!! [hello][hello][hello]
Hoisting a welcome one for the long, tall one! [beer]
Karen #2
Title: Re:  DS GHOST GUIDE
Post by: Patti Feinberg on September 11, 2002, 03:04:31 AM
Um...don't see everyone's posts below for me to quote..(I guess this is a bandwith saving measure).

Anywho....ibid....
I hate [puke] Gerard Stiles...he's just mean.

Quentin rocks!! 8)

Cheryl.....I was 4 in '68!!!!! (But, I never saw Quentin before 1 1/2 yrs ago!!)

telephone

For those of you newer to this board....

the telephone is my pentultimate scene in DS!!!!

oh MB....I haven't watched in about a week....you're peaking my interest!
[size=42]QUENTIN[/size]
In case anyone's hard of hearing, I said:
[size=64]QUENTIN[/size]
Love,
Patti
Title: Re:  DS GHOST GUIDE
Post by: VictoriaWintersRox on September 11, 2002, 03:25:23 AM
I would say Gerard was the evilest ghost.

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He was responsible for so many bad things - the death of Liz, David, Hallie (though some would say that isn't a bad thing), Daphne and caused Carolyn and Quentin to lose their minds. He destroyed Collinwood. He was pure evil, at least Quentin had some reasoning for his haunting.
Title: Re:  DS GHOST GUIDE
Post by: Birdie on September 11, 2002, 03:42:23 AM
I am very excited to see this story line.  I have not seen it since the original run.  Actually, I remember in 1968 this is about when I started watching DS.  I have to say today's episode with Amy and the phone still is creepy, and I am saying that as an adult.  

Do agree Gerard was evil and that sneer was something else.

Birdie

small note I saw a suit in the new Chadwicks catalogue that looks like a updated green tweed that Julia wears.  A longer skirt but that horrid tweed.  Every time I looked at it my head keep saying "Julia suit, Julia suit."
Title: Re:  DS GHOST GUIDE
Post by: Misty on September 11, 2002, 04:14:42 AM
Quentin's ghost was indeed creepy. For those seeing this segment for the first time; he (Quentin) was not a nice person!!! But he had a mission and his character, as in any good story, develops over time. Gerard's character was pure unadulterated evil. His had to be the scariest face I'd seen during the series---excluding werewolves, etc.

                                            Misty