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Title: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: kuanyin on September 05, 2002, 03:43:05 AM
and going to say that I tried to keep an open mind today. I honestly think Betsy Durkin did a good job! Not great, but not bad enough to warrant the comments. (SORRY, Minja!)  Just have to call it as I see it. Don't get me wrong, I ain't plannin' to start a fan club. It's just that any actor coming into an established role has a totally thankless job. I thought the gal who played CaroLINE was OK too. It isn't their fault they are not the original actor! I tried to feel the same way about Anthony George, didn't work just can't stand him in the role of Burke. (He was fine as Jeremiah.) Mainly cos' he played Burke as such a wuss. I think Betsey did her best to act Vicky-like and succeeded better than we give her credit for.

I like her hair better than AM's. I don't know why, all that heavy, thick hair just looks painful to me. Somewhere in between that and Grayson's wisps would be where I want to be! (I am a wispy hair person myself and can sympathize).

I WILL acknowledge that BD can be a little shrill, but I would take her over Amanda Harris ANYDAY.....
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: Miles on September 05, 2002, 03:51:47 AM
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I like her hair better than AM's. I don't know why, all that heavy, thick hair just looks painful to me. Somewhere in between that and Grayson's wisps would be where I want to be! (I am a wispy hair person myself and can sympathize).

I guess that I didn't despise her as much as I thought I would, but thats just over the line.
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: VAM on September 05, 2002, 04:28:18 AM
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and going to say that I tried to keep an open mind today. I honestly think Betsy Durkin did a good job! Not great, but not bad enough to warrant the comments. (SORRY, Minja!)  Just have to call it as I see it..

Hmmm...Another one hypnotized by Julia Hoffman.;)
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: Craig_Slocum on September 05, 2002, 04:50:25 AM
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I think Betsey did her best to act Vicky-like and succeeded better than we give her credit for.


And she kept a straight face when Tom Jennings was in her room. I thought he was more funny than scary!
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: Dr. Eric Lang on September 06, 2002, 12:18:08 AM
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I WILL acknowledge that BD can be a little shrill, but I would take her over Amanda Harris ANYDAY.....


Not to mention Hallie Stokes.
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: doombuggy69 on September 06, 2002, 01:36:38 AM
>>>>Not to mention Hallie Stokes.

My dad had a cute pet name for Hallie Stokes when we watched the show in it's original run. He used to call her Hallie Tosis!  (get it?)  :)
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: scout75 on September 06, 2002, 01:48:39 AM
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And she kept a straight face when Tom Jennings was in her room. I thought he was more funny than scary!

The way his vampy tongue was a-flailin', I thought the undead handyman was going to give the New Vicki what Anya on Buffy calls "the pleasure moment".

[lick]
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: kuanyin on September 06, 2002, 02:24:29 AM
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The way his vampy tongue was a-flailin', I thought the undead handyman was going to give the New Vicki what Anya on Buffy calls "the pleasure moment".

[lick]

Oh, is THAT where he wanted to bite her?! NOW, it makes sense! Thanks for the hearty laugh.
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: Julia99 on September 06, 2002, 03:00:00 AM
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Oh, is THAT where he wanted to bite her?! NOW, it makes sense! Thanks for the hearty laugh.

Oh gosh. . why do you think Julia ran out of a room anytime he called. . ???
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: Craig_Slocum on September 06, 2002, 07:01:53 AM
Sounds like muff diving. Really out on a limb here!!
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: jennifer on September 06, 2002, 08:18:12 AM
SPOILERS

Oh my my now i'm really going to have to rewatch
that tape. maybe they killed off the wrong vampire
when Tom and Barnabas duel ;D

jennifer
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: Julia99 on September 07, 2002, 06:06:50 PM
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Sounds like muff diving. Really out on a limb here!!

naughty naughty Craig. . [evilg]
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: Craig_Slocum on September 08, 2002, 03:23:12 AM
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naughty naughty Craig. . [evilg]


I grew up in the middle of the sexual revolution. What can I say?
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: Misty on September 08, 2002, 08:05:03 PM
I've seen the DS series at least three times including the original, and really didn't remember BD being THAT terrible. True, she hadn't reached the acting level of AM, but as was stated, she came into a difficult situation. Kind of like a back-up quarterback; there to do a job and expected to excel. After having seen her again, I concentrated on her performances to see if I missed something. Not so. She did what was expected, if not up to AM standards.

                             For the defense.  Misty
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: doombuggy69 on September 08, 2002, 08:13:49 PM
In case anyone here does not know or remember this, Roger Davis' then girlfriend and future wife, Jacklyn Smith auditioned for the role of VIctoria Winters after Moltke left. She lost the role to Betsy Durkin.  

Does anyone here think that Jacklyn Smith might have done a better job?
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: Carol on September 08, 2002, 08:35:52 PM
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In case anyone here does not know or remember this, Roger Davis' then girlfriend and future wife, Jacklyn Smith auditioned for the role of VIctoria Winters after Moltke left. She lost the role to Betsy Durkin.  

Does anyone here think that Jacklyn Smith might have done a better job?

I can't believe that she lost out to Betsy Durkin. Be as that may, I think Jaclyn Smith would've brought a more innocent and softer appeal to the role of VW IMHO.
Betsy Durkin comes on too strong as if she's trying to claim the part of VW all to herself and doing a poor job at that.
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: Julia99 on September 10, 2002, 06:42:11 AM
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I can't believe that she lost out to Betsy Durkin. Be as that may, I think Jaclyn Smith would've brought a more innocent and softer appeal to the role of VW IMHO.

It took a few years for JS to loose her lovely Texas accent. . i'm sure that had something to do with not getting the role. . she didn't sound like she was from Maine. . .
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: Luciaphile on September 11, 2002, 07:53:36 AM
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It took a few years for JS to loose her lovely Texas accent. . i'm sure that had something to do with not getting the role. . she didn't sound like she was from Maine. . .

Vicki wasn't from Maine (at least wasn't supposed to be raised there).

Luciaphil
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: Julia99 on September 11, 2002, 08:15:08 AM
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Vicki wasn't from Maine (at least wasn't supposed to be raised there).

But did she take that train ride all the way from Texas???  [hdscrt]
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: VictoriaWintersRox on September 12, 2002, 12:33:07 AM
Maybe Vicki was the lovechild of one of Elizabeth Collins Stoddard and a Texas oilman. And then Vicki goes to Professor Stokes and has some of her memory restored to find out about her past and has her accent restored.
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: jennifer on September 13, 2002, 07:19:38 AM
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I've seen the DS series at least three times including the original, and really didn't remember BD being THAT terrible. True, she hadn't reached the acting level of AM, but as was stated, she came into a difficult situation. Kind of like a back-up quarterback; there to do a job and expected to excel. After having seen her again, I concentrated on her performances to see if I missed something. Not so. She did what was expected, if not up to AM standards.

                             For the defense.  Misty

heehee just saw this and wanted to add our backup quarterback came in and won The Super Bowl!

jennifer
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: dom on September 13, 2002, 10:06:58 AM
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and going to say that I tried to keep an open mind today. I honestly think Betsy Durkin did a good job! Not great, but not bad enough to warrant the comments.

Glad you brought this up, kuanyin! I've been wanting to start a thread on this but I've barely had the time to watch the show, (never mind getting to my computer).

I've only seen the Betsy eps once before now. I hated the performance. This go-around I promised myself to watch objectively and closely. I agree with you. I think BD is doing a good job.

My turn to climb out on that limb - She is certainly a far better performer than several of the actors that have been (and are currently) on the show.

Dom
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: scout75 on September 13, 2002, 07:11:05 PM
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(Betsy Durkin) is certainly a far better performer than several of the actors...(currently) on the show.

Like Don Briscoe, who's not so much an actor as an image carved out of wood.
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: jennifer on September 15, 2002, 06:50:40 AM
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Like Don Briscoe, who's not so much an actor as an image carved out of wood.

Yeah but what a piece of wood!

jennifer
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: Craig_Slocum on September 15, 2002, 07:35:56 AM
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Yeah but what a piece of wood!

No, he's hamburger. Why settle for hamburger when you can have filet mignon, Craig Slocum!
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: Connie on September 15, 2002, 11:52:50 AM
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Like Don Briscoe, who's not so much an actor as an image carved out of wood.

What?  An image carved out of wood???  LOL
HUH?  Am I missing something here?  I've never noticed anything wrong with his acting.

What the......HUH?  [hdscrt]
Guess I haven't watched him closely enough.
For the life of me.....
"not so much an actor as an image carved out of WOOD"?   ROFL

My dear scout75,
What in God's name is wrong with Briscoe's acting?  I mean, he's no Thayer David, but...jeez...he always seemed quite serviceable to me.
What in the....HUH?  Wood?

-CLC  ?!?
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: VAM on September 15, 2002, 12:13:14 PM
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No, he's hamburger. Why settle for hamburger when you can have filet mignon, Craig Slocum!

Sorry, I happen to enjoy burgers more...
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: kuanyin on September 15, 2002, 11:30:39 PM
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What?  An image carved out of wood???  LOL
HUH?  Am I missing something here?  I've never noticed anything wrong with his acting.

Well, as Tom Jennings, the criticism is somewhat warranted. I think he does a good job as Chris. Last time I watched these shows, I thought him the actor that improved the most on the show. But, this time I noticed that he was always OK as Chris and wooden as Tom, even in the SAME episode! (Surely, you remember his infamous line"JOOOOOOLIIAAAHHHH!"?)

I guess some don't even care for him as Chris. I don't understand it myself. I think he is hunky as all get out and as for acting, somewhere in the middle. Sure, he is no Thayer David, but he isn't a screechy ol'hair puller either!
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: scout75 on September 16, 2002, 05:18:54 AM
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My dear scout75,
What in God's name is wrong with Briscoe's acting?

He's no damn good at it.

I have no personal ax to grind with Briscoe, and obviously, there are several like you, my dear Connie, who think he's hunkalicious, it's just...

Well, let me put it this way: I remember reading one of the KLS books and feeling relieved to see that Briscoe retired from acting and moved back to Tennessee.

[evilb]
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: jennifer on September 16, 2002, 05:41:28 AM
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He's no damn good at it.

I have no personal ax to grind with Briscoe, and obviously, there are several like you, my dear Connie, who think he's hunkalicious, it's just...

Well, let me put it this way: I remember reading one of the KLS books and feeling relieved to see that Briscoe retired from acting and moved back to Tennessee.

[evilb]

as i've said before it's not his acting i'm watching on the screen and think he is the filet Cheryl  heeheehee
but it would be a pretty boring place if we all agreed

jennifer
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: Craig_Slocum on September 16, 2002, 05:46:53 AM
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Sorry, I happen to enjoy burgers more...

Well, now that we are really on the subject of food, we had a barbecue here at my house yesterday, barbecued filet mignon. It was good! Better than any burger.
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: Connie on September 16, 2002, 06:15:31 AM
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He's no damn good at it.

I have no personal ax to grind with Briscoe, and obviously, there are several like you, my dear Connie, who think he's hunkalicious, it's just...

:) DEAREST :) scout75,

I don't think he's "hunkalicious".  LOL  (Is that word in the dictionary?).  Don't find myself attracted to him in the least.   I just never noticed his acting to be lousy and couldn't figure out what was bad about it.
I mean, I've noticed a fair number of bad performances (IMHO) on DS (not mentioning any names Lee Beery) but Briscoe's performances weren't among the
bunch.  Go figure!

I know you have no personal ax to grind!  ;D
Was just curious.

-CLC
Who will be watching Don Briscoe's scenes more closely in the future.  ROFL
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: scout75 on September 16, 2002, 06:31:16 AM
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I don't think he's "hunkalicious".

Then I stand corrected. I know he's no Quentin, but I thought you were into him as well.

All I know is that if they ever run out of stakes in Collinsport, all they have to do to make some more is chop up Don Briscoe!
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: scout75 on September 16, 2002, 06:31:48 AM
I went out to Home Depot this afternoon and bought a load of Don Briscoe Brand Lumber.

Tee-hee...[vryevl]
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: Connie on September 16, 2002, 07:53:51 AM
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I went out to Home Depot this afternoon and bought a load of Don Briscoe Brand Lumber.
Tee-hee...[vryevl]

Is it pressure-treated??

-CLC
Who's REALLY into images carved in wood
Title: Re: I'm going out on a limb here,
Post by: scout75 on September 16, 2002, 07:58:07 AM
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Is it pressure-treated?

Are we still talkin' 'bout lumber? [pimp]