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Title: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: CD_Tate on August 22, 2002, 07:41:56 AM
I've watched Star Trek Next Generation so many times I've lost count, but it wasn't until tonight I realized (while browsing the imdb) that Kathryn Leigh Scott played a lead role in one of my all-time favorite episodes: Who Watches the Watchers?  

Of course, right away I had to watch the episode again; luckily I just bought the DVD set...  There she is, playing a character I've always loved, and I never put two & two together!  She plays Nuria, the leader of a primitive Vulcan-ish race.  Picard has to beam her up to the ship in order to convince her that he isn't a God, and they share several wonderful scenes together.  It's a truly extraordinary performance.

I'm sure there's plenty of great roles and guest spots I haven't come across, but it's always great to see one of the regulars pop up somewhere else.  

Another favorite of mine is Thayer David as the evil Count Sagnussen in the adventure film Journey to the Center of the Earth starring James Mason...

What's your favorite non-DS performance by one of the Dark Shadows gang?
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Selby_D._Pearson on August 22, 2002, 11:54:58 AM
My fave non-DS performance by our dear Grayson was as Miss Judith Fellowes in "Night of the Iguana". Miss Fellowes was such a dedicated chaperone to young Charlotte Goodall and that evil "Rev" T. Lawrence Shannon was so cruel to her. Miss Fellowes was so dedicated to Charlotte she was willing to sleep at the foot of her bed if Charlotte so desired! ;D

BTW, at one of the late 1980s Festivals, KLS submitted her alien makeup (ears, nose and protruding brow) from "Who Watches the Watchers?" to the Festival charity auction.

SDP
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Luciaphile on August 22, 2002, 04:53:30 PM
Joan, of course, in any number of films.  Which I would pick as my favorite?  "The Reckless Moment"

Luciaphil
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: CD_Tate on August 22, 2002, 05:25:40 PM
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Joan, of course, in any number of films.  Which I would pick as my favorite?  "The Reckless Moment"

Luciaphil
I've just got to see that one!  

I just looked it up, since you mentioned it, and it turns out that The Deep End--one of my favorite independant films from last year--was a remake of that movie...  I can't wait to see the original, with our dear Ms. Bennett...  But it doesn't look like it's out on video or DVD...   Oh well, I guess I set up a TiVo wishlist for it, and keep my eyes open for latenight TV...

Anyone else?  
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: jennifer on August 22, 2002, 06:32:03 PM
Daivd Selby in Falcon C.! :)

jennifer
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: MrsJ on August 22, 2002, 06:37:13 PM
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My fave non-DS performance by our dear Grayson was as Miss Judith Fellowes in "Night of the Iguana". Miss Fellowes was such a dedicated chaperone to young Charlotte Goodall and that evil "Rev" T. Lawrence Shannon was so cruel to her. Miss Fellowes was so dedicated to Charlotte she was willing to sleep at the foot of her bed if Charlotte so desired! ;D

A powerful performance as Judith Fellowes for certain.  I'm always torn between her role in "Iguana" and that of Pepe in "Satan in High Heels".  I understand it is a film she would have rather forgotten, but her portrayal of Pepe is a delight to watch.

MrsJ.
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: CD_Tate on August 22, 2002, 06:53:18 PM
Satan in High Heels sounds like a hoot!  I love the descriptions at Amazon and imdb...  Looks readily available; it's going to the top of my online DVD shopping list...   I love that kind of stuff...
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Gothick on August 22, 2002, 07:43:48 PM
Grayson Hall in Satan in High Heels definitely tops my list.  She was like buttah in that film!  And rather sexy, too, which is something else that makes it stand out from the rest of her oeuvre.

Thayer David in the original Nero Wolfe pilot film of the Seventies is another treat.  Thayer David is always fabulous to watch, but this gave him some wonderful lines and situations to play, plus he was at the center of the action, where I always felt he belonged. It's a shame that this movie has never been released on video.

I'd love to see Joan Bennett in the Reckless Moment, but have yet to track it down.  

Haven't seen very much of Lara Parker's other work, but of what I have seen, her guest role on Kolchak: the Night Stalker is a lot of fun.  Apparently it was less than fun for her to do because of some tension between herself and the show's star, Darren McGavin.  Lara played a young, powerful witch moonlighting as a fashion model.  Nina Foch was in the episode, too, in a role somewhat reminiscent of Susan Hayward in Valley of the Dolls.

Even though it was a non speaking role for him, I love watching Jonathan Frid in the early 70s TV film with Shelley Winters, The Devil's Daughter.  He projected a great deal of emotion without speaking a word, plus the movie had a great cast.

At a Dark Shadows Festival many years ago I saw a wonderful clip of Clarice Blackburn appearing in a courtroom drama of the 1950s.  I looked up the movie on IMDB.  The name eludes me and I've never been able to track down a print, but it was a wonderful moment.  I wish MPI would release stuff like this as part of their DS collection.

Two of my "holy grails" are Grayson Hall's first movie appearance, in a very low budget film shot on location in Greenwich Village in 1957, Run across the river.  Interestingly it was also Jerry Stiller's movie debut.  And the other one is a 1965 one hour featurette she did with Jack Hawkins and Shelley Winters, Back to Back, shown in the Bob Hope Chrysler Theatre series.  It's proven frustratingly elusive.

Gothick
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Happybat on August 22, 2002, 08:20:19 PM
Unfortunately I've seen very few performances by DS actors in other movies or shows, but two stand out and both are found in favorite shows of mine:

Thayer David is the owner of a magic shop in one of the best Columbo episodes of all time, "Now You See Him" starring Jack Cassidy as the killer.  In it, TD scares Columbo with a miniature guillotine.  He also clues the detective in on how the murderer might have staged a very clever alibi.  

Lara Parker plays an exotic dancer named Angie (Angelique reincarnated?) and the mistress of a shady, murdered guy in a Quincy M.E. episode, but because A&E foolishly doesn't air the show anymore, I don't recall much else.  :'(

Which brings me to something decidedly OT:

I don't suppose anyone here gets Quincy, M.E.?  If so, please let me know.  I really miss that irascible, crusading coroner!

Can't hurt to ask.
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: CD_Tate on August 22, 2002, 08:38:23 PM
In another SciFi guest appearance, KLS plays an alien victim of mind control in "Dorzak," the final-ever episode of Space: 1999, also in my permanent DVD collection...

She doesn't have a lot to do other than wake from bed in sick bay and start screaming, but it was good to see her.  Looks like it was filmed not long after DS ended, she's still very young, but with shorter hair...
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Raineypark on August 22, 2002, 08:43:30 PM
John Karlen, as Harvey Lacey,  of course.  He more than held his own with that Richter Scale-registering persona otherwise known as Tyne Daly.  

Rainey...who's going back to bed now.
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Craig_Slocum on August 22, 2002, 08:47:54 PM
Craig Slocum in "Is This Love?" (1957), an educational film shown in schools. To wed or not to wed - that is the question. Should Peggy and her boyfriend marry at the end of the semester? Or should they be old fashioned and wait like Andy (Craig Slocum) and Liz? Craig was 17 years old in the film, I love his scenes, especially the love scene! Sure looked like he was a good kisser. The woman who played his girlfriend looked old enough to be his Mom! Craig sure looked good 45 years ago, makes a young woman wish for older days!  :-*
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Luciaphile on August 22, 2002, 09:05:06 PM
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I've just got to see that one!

I just looked it up, since you mentioned it, and it turns out that The Deep End--one of my favorite independant films from last year--was a remake of that movie...  I can't wait to see the original, with our dear Ms. Bennett...  But it doesn't look like it's out on video or DVD...   Oh well, I guess I set up a TiVo wishlist for it, and keep my eyes open for latenight TV...

The Reckless Moment is an elusive film.  Max Ophuls directed it; James Mason and Joan Bennett starred.  It's got a reputation as a noir of a slightly different kind.  

Unfortunately, it was never released on video.  There's a poor quality bootleg that surfaces on eBay now and then.  I would kill for a decent copy as mine is pretty bad, but I wouldn't get rid of the one I've got for the world.    Happy hunting.

Luciaphil
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: CD_Tate on August 22, 2002, 09:05:11 PM
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John Karlen, as Harvey Lacey,  of course.  He more than held his own with that Richter Scale-measuring persona otherwise known as Tyne Daly.
I'd totally forgotten about that...  He was great on that show...   I'd love to see those reruns again.
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Maria_Merriweather on August 22, 2002, 10:05:07 PM
John Karlen was good in a movie called "Babycakes".
He played the father of Ricki Lake (a plump girl who falls in love with a hunk).  Also, he was pretty good in
"Daughters of Darkness".  :)
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Dr. Eric Lang on August 22, 2002, 10:47:40 PM
So many good ones mentioned here. I'd love to see some old Joan Bennett films. I'll always remember Thayer David in Journey to the Center of the Earth. I remember seeing that movie on TV when I was little and it made an indelible impression on me.

I really enjoyed Kate Jackson in "Scarecrow and Mrs. King." It wasn't the most important, nor the most impressive show ever made; but it was cute and fun and I really liked it.
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Afan on August 22, 2002, 10:55:40 PM
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Amen to David Selby in Falcon Crest and Night of Dark Shadows.
Also liked Louis Edmonds for years  as Langley Wallenford on All My Children.[/shadow] I used to tape the show when I was teaching, and I watched it when I got home.
I just received a Blooper tape, and it raised my admiration for Louis.  He made some bloopers, but covered them up so well, it was a pleasure to watch him
Afan
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: kuanyin on August 22, 2002, 10:56:31 PM
I guess I will have to go with Daughters of Darkness, as I don't think I have seen anything else with DS alumni in it. I think I will get Satan in High Heels for my birthday present to me along with DS Vol. 2.

Does anyone think I could get Night of the Iguana in DVD anytime soon? I could buy the video, but hate to if it will come out on DVD.
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: CD_Tate on August 22, 2002, 11:21:09 PM
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Does anyone think I could get Night of the Iguana in DVD anytime soon? I could buy the video, but hate to if it will come out on DVD.
It's not on anyone's release schedule, nor are than any specific rumors about it.  Like many great films of mostly "literary" interest, I suspect the VHS is still the best bet for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: VAM on August 23, 2002, 01:28:07 AM
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Thayer David in the original Nero Wolfe pilot film of the Seventies is another treat.  Thayer David is always fabulous to watch, but this gave him some wonderful lines and situations to play, plus he was at the center of the action, where I always felt he belonged. It's a shame that this movie has never been released on video.

Haven't seen very much of Lara Parker's other work, but of what I have seen, her guest role on Kolchak: the Night Stalker is a lot of fun.  Apparently it was less than fun for her to do because of some tension between herself and the show's star, Darren McGavin.  Lara played a young, powerful witch moonlighting as a fashion model.

Both Lara Parker and Thayer David gave good performances in the film SAVE THE TIGER .
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Julia99 on August 23, 2002, 02:50:27 AM
Hmmm m.. I did like David on Falcon Crest. . .he had many good scenes and in Rich and Famous with Candice Bergen and Jacquelin Bissett. . .Lara Parker.  .i remember her mostly from two other works --that vacationing with Loretta Swit thing where they saw Devil worship in the woods. . that was a riot and of course. .. as David Banner's first wife on the Incredible Hulk. .every time he got sad . .he remembered her playing with that kitten and trying to lift the car to save her ..

And to Grayson. . well. . .Iguana is great and I feel a great deal of sympathy for Judith. . look, if i'd saved all year for a vacation, got stuck with a bunch of whiney geriatric gals with dysentary, a horney tourguide and a frisky 16 year old. . .I wouldn't have been in a good mood either. ..I think the scene where Maxine is about to lay it all out for poor "in the closet" Judith. . is stunning. . Judith goes from the nemesis of the work to an innocent who needs protection. . .a seemless transition. . And of course the look on her face when Maxine offers her some pot ..well .. that's worth the price alone! ;D
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Craig_Slocum on August 23, 2002, 03:00:48 AM

I have an episode of Night Gallery called, "Certain Shadows On The Wall", with Grayson Hall. Her performance was excellent, spooky story!
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Bob_the_Bartender on August 23, 2002, 03:18:09 AM
Wow, there are so many to choose from:

Thayer David - "Rocky 1," "Hawaii 5-0"

Dennis Patrick - "Joe," "All In the Family"

Jerry Lacy - "Play It Again, Sam," "The Rocky Blier Story"

Nancy Barrett - "Bellizare The Cajun"

Anita Bolster - "The Portrait Of Dorian Gray," "Sabotuer"

Isabella Hoopes - "The Taking Of Pelham, One, Two Three"

Kenneth McMillan - "The Pope Of Greenwich Village," "Ragtime," "Blood Brothers," "Moonchildren" (off-Broadway), "Salem's Lot"

Bob O'Connell - "Bananas," "Love Story"

Addison Powell - "Three Days Of The Condor"

Roger Davis - "Nashville Girl,"  "The New Hardy
Boys," "The Gallant Men"

KLS - "The Last Days Of Patton," "Legacy," "Come Die With Me," "The Great Gatsby," "Hawii 5-0," "Magnum, PI"
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: VAM on August 23, 2002, 03:51:50 AM
KLS was quite good in the adaptation of the Barbara Taylor Bradford novel "Voice of the Heart," which was a TV mini-series starring Lindsey Wagner and James Brolin.
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: jennifer on August 23, 2002, 06:30:43 AM
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John Karlen, as Harvey Lacey,  of course.  He more than held his own with that Richter Scale-measuring persona otherwise known as Tyne Daly.

I forgot that role HE was the show!!Har...vey

jennifer
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Selby_D._Pearson on August 23, 2002, 08:04:44 AM
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Lara Parker.  .i remember her mostly from two other works --that vacationing with Loretta Swit thing where they saw Devil worship in the woods. . that was a riot and of course. ..


That is a fave of mine too. Its title is "Race With the Devil". I found it humorously ironic that Lara was the victim of "witchcraft" in this film. I think she said once at a Festival that she and Loretta Swit didn't get along very well.

Kenneth McMillan was creepy in "Dune".

SDP
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Carol on August 23, 2002, 08:58:01 AM
I've been slowly taping John Karlen's guest star roles from Murder, She Wrote, Perry Mason, The Walton's and my latest was an ebay auction of the Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries from 1977 where he played a boxer named "Rocky".  He acts just like "Willie"--if he had finally escaped Barnabas and had his own life. He's so damn cute in it.  :-*

I also have his Daughters of Darkness, MacShayne: Winner Takes All, The Dark Wind, BabyCakes, Daddy, and several others.
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Cassandra on August 23, 2002, 09:49:45 AM
I liked Thayer David in the movie "Journey To The Center Of The Earth."  Just saw that one not too long ago.

Also I used to watch the soap " One Life To Live" years ago and remembered Grayson Hall playing a part in that story. Thought she did a good job. Anthony George, the second Burke Devlin also was on the show during that time. He played Dr.Will Vernon.  Nancy Barrett also had a small part at the same time. It was almost like a DS reunion! ;)
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Midnite on August 23, 2002, 06:53:41 PM
Carol, I should've realized you were taping JK's various appearances.  Duh!  (Right about now I could use a smiley that slaps itself upside the head.)...

His Hill Street Blues episode aired yesterday, but it should again in the near future and with Kosmo's help I can let alert you to it a few days in advance.  Johnny is only in one scene but he's great, as always.

My absolute favorite Thayer David appearances are in The Wild Wild West series.  After one character was involved in the theft of a samurai sword, TD was brought back a year later to play a thief that preyed on Mexican villagers (in the guise of Cortez!).  His villains were awesome; it's almost hard to believe this is the same guy that played Ben.

I enjoyed the replies so far and hope they keep coming.  Great question, CD Tate!
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: CandleLighter on August 23, 2002, 06:59:51 PM
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 Duh!  (Right about now I could use a smiley that slaps itself upside the head.)...

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Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Midnite on August 23, 2002, 07:03:52 PM
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Here ya go...(http://216.40.241.68/otn/other/11doh.gif)

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LOL, thank you!!!
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: murph on August 23, 2002, 08:30:53 PM
Kate Jackson in Charlie's Angels.  I was sixteen when that show premiered.  I enjoyed all the actresses in that show but especially Kate because I remembered her from Dark Shadows.  I remember thinking she was so-ooooo beautiful on Dark Shadows, I was probably 10-11 years old at the time.

Murph
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: CD_Tate on August 23, 2002, 09:26:13 PM
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My absolute favorite Thayer David appearances are in The Wild Wild West series.  After one character was involved in the theft of a samurai sword, TD was brought back a year later to play a thief that preyed on Mexican villagers (in the guise of Cortez!).  His villains were awesome; it's almost hard to believe this is the same guy that played Ben.

I loved Wild, Wild West, but I don't remember ever seeing the Thayer David episodes. Something else to look forward to--thanks for the head's up!
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Dr. Eric Lang on August 23, 2002, 09:56:11 PM
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Dennis Patrick - "Joe," "All In the Family"

Oh! Oh! Oh! (raising hands furiously) Mr. Kotter! Mr. Kotter!

I just remembered a classic episode of Lost in Space starring Dennis Patrick as the Golden Man, Mr. Keemo. That was a stand-out episode of that series.

BTW Midnite: I love your new sig file!!! Anya is my favorite character. I can't wait to see what happens now that she has her powers back. Bunnies beware!
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Carol on August 23, 2002, 11:03:31 PM
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Carol, I should've realized you were taping JK's various appearances.  Duh!  (Right about now I could use a smiley that slaps itself upside the head.)...

His Hill Street Blues episode aired yesterday, but it should again in the near future and with Kosmo's help I can let alert you to it a few days in advance.  Johnny is only in one scene but he's great, as always.

  I've never been able to catch the Hill Street Blues episode so if you could give the heads up when it comes on again, I'd most appreciate it.
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Cassandra on August 25, 2002, 08:13:29 AM
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Dennis Patrick - "Joe," "All In the Family"

I would have loved to see that one! ;D

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Kenneth McMillan - "The Pope Of Greenwich Village," "Ragtime," "Blood Brothers," "Moonchildren" (off-Broadway), "Salem's Lot"

Which character did he play on DS?
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Julia99 on August 25, 2002, 08:26:22 AM
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I just remembered a classic episode of Lost in Space starring Dennis Patrick as the Golden Man, Mr. Keemo. That was a stand-out episode of that series.

I of course remember Mr. Patrick as one of J.R.'s bad bad friends on Dallas.  .
http://www.ultimatedallas.com/
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by casto
Post by: Midnite on August 30, 2002, 12:18:16 AM
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I've been slowly taping John Karlen's guest star roles from Murder, She Wrote, Perry Mason, The Walton's and my latest was an ebay auction of the Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries from 1977 where he played a boxer named "Rocky".  He acts just like "Willie"--if he had finally escaped Barnabas and had his own life. He's so damn cute in it.  :-*

I also have his Daughters of Darkness, MacShayne: Winner Takes All, The Dark Wind, BabyCakes, Daddy, and several others.

Carol,

I told DS fan/pop culture expert Kosmo about your project, and he let me know that Karlen's Rockford Files appearance will air on TVLand on Sunday nite/Monday morning at 1 a.m. ET.

I admire your efforts (have a pretty good David Selby video collection myself ;)), but wonder if you're taping all of his Cagney & Lacey and Mad About You eps too? :o  If so, my hat is definitely off to you!
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by casto
Post by: Carol on August 30, 2002, 12:52:54 AM
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Carol,

I told DS fan/pop culture expert Kosmo about your project, and he let me know that Karlen's Rockford Files appearance will air on TVLand on Sunday nite/Monday morning at 1 a.m. ET.

  Thanx for the heads up! I'll set the VCR.

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I admire your efforts (have a pretty good David Selby video collection myself ;)), but wonder if you're taping all of his Cagney & Lacey and Mad About You eps too? :o  If so, my hat is definitely off to you!

  I don't haveANYMad About You episodes with JK but I do have quite a few Cagney & Lacey ones. Not all but enough to keep me happy. ;D
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by casto
Post by: Connie on August 30, 2002, 01:17:15 AM
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I don't haveANYMad About You episodes with JK but I do have quite a few Cagney & Lacey ones. Not all but enough to keep me happy. ;D

Yep...just give Carol a bottle of wine and some Karlen tapes, and she's happy.

;)
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Raineypark on August 30, 2002, 01:30:10 AM
I stand in awe, Carol.....I don't have any of the Cagney and Lacey episodes, though I watched every one of them.....don't think we even owned a VCR when they were on.  

Worst of all, I've never seen ANY of his Mad About You performances.  I find Helen what's-her-face so unbearable to watch I simply never saw a single episode of that show.  He played somebody's father, didn't he?

Raineypark, who would like to come spend a week in your TV room!
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by casto
Post by: Carol on August 30, 2002, 02:03:31 AM
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Yep...just give Carol a bottle of wine and some Karlen tapes, and she's happy.

;)

 Connie knows me so well!
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Carol on August 30, 2002, 02:15:36 AM
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I stand in awe, Carol.....I don't have any of the Cagney and Lacey episodes, though I watched every one of them.....don't think we even owned a VCR when they were on.

 I vaguely remember watching Cagney & Lacey but for the life of me, do not remember JK! Isn't that awful?! It wasn't until I got involved in DS again and Lifetime Channel started running Cagney & Lacey episodes that I watched and saw him.

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Worst of all, I've never seen ANY of his Mad About You performances.  I find Helen what's-her-face so unbearable to watch I simply never saw a single episode of that show.  He played somebody's father, didn't he?

  I've never seen him in any of the reruns.

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Raineypark, who would like to come spend a week in your TV room!

  You know, even tho I have all these tapes, I don't have time to watch them!
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: jennifer on August 30, 2002, 03:50:58 AM
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Worst of all, I've never seen ANY of his Mad About You performances.  I find Helen what's-her-face so unbearable to watch I simply never saw a single episode of that show.  He played somebody's father, didn't he?

Raineypark, who would like to come spend a week in your TV room!

Very funny I can't bear her either Was JK on it?
Loved Harv....ey on C&L only reason watched that show!

jennifer
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: kuanyin on August 30, 2002, 04:25:34 AM
 :o WHAT?! John Karlen was on Mad About You? I used to watch that show regularly until they had the baby and then dumped the actors who played Helen's parents in order to bring Carroll O'Connor and Carol Burnett on.

I wasn't watching DS at the time, and wouldn't have recognized Karlen anyway. I don't think he was her dad though, was he? What part did he play?
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Bob_the_Bartender on August 30, 2002, 05:02:04 AM
Dear Cassandra,

Many years ago, (after DS had been off the air for a number of years) I was sitting in an off Broadway theatre, reading the playbill for a show called "Moonchildren."  The play dealt with a group of college students who lived in an apartment building.  Mr. McMillan played the likable (and exceedingly foul-mouthed) superintendent of the apartment building.

Anyway, the playbill listed Dark Shadows as one of Mr. McMillan's past credits.  I sat there, trying to remember just who he played on the show.  It wasn't until the local PBS station started airing Dark Shadows that I saw that the late, great Mr. McMillan portrayed:

SPOILER!!!





Sailor Jack Long who tries unsuccessfully to help the doomed Paul Stoddard escape the Leviathans and also the apparently unnamed Paralled Time 1970 bartender (and Bob Rooney's putative PT counterpart) who runs/owns the Eagle Tavern.  (The place of employment for the immortal Buffie Harrington.)  
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: Carol on August 30, 2002, 05:10:27 AM
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 :o WHAT?! John Karlen was on Mad About You? I used to watch that show regularly until they had the baby and then dumped the actors who played Helen's parents in order to bring Carroll O'Connor and Carol Burnett on.

I wasn't watching DS at the time, and wouldn't have recognized Karlen anyway. I don't think he was her dad though, was he? What part did he play?

I just checked IMDB. Paul Dooley was Gus Stemple #l from 92-93; John Karlen was Gus Stemple #2 from 93-96 while Carroll O'Connor was Gus Stemple #3 from 96 till end of series.
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: scout75 on August 30, 2002, 05:22:53 AM
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Dennis Patrick - "Joe," "All In the Family"

Dennis Patrick was also in an episode of The Rockford Files; Lara Parker and Thayer David made appearances on the series as well.
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: jennifer on August 30, 2002, 07:20:17 AM
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I just checked IMDB. Paul Dooley was Gus Stemple #l from 92-93; John Karlen was Gus Stemple #2 from 93-96 while Carroll O'Connor was Gus Stemple #3 from 96 till end of series.

Drat Carol now i'm going to have to suffer through those reruns waiting for him to appear! just checked the IMDB
and there was a cute picture of Harv...ey and Mary Beth
thanks

jennifer
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Post by: Midnite on August 30, 2002, 09:11:38 AM
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Dennis Patrick was also in an episode of The Rockford Files; Lara Parker and Thayer David made appearances on the series as well.

Also Jim Storm, Roger Davis, Mitch Ryan, Dana Elcar, Abe Vigoda, Joel Fabiani and George DiCenzo.
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Post by: scout75 on August 30, 2002, 05:11:08 PM
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Also Jim Storm, Roger Davis, Mitch Ryan, Dana Elcar, Abe Vigoda, Joel Fabiani and George DiCenzo.

Smarty-pants!  ;)
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Post by: Midnite on August 30, 2002, 07:23:43 PM
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Smarty-pants!  ;)

LOL!

And a ;) back atcha.
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Post by: Carol on August 30, 2002, 07:56:44 PM
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Very funny I can't bear her either Was JK on it?
Loved Harv....ey on C&L only reason watched that show!

This isn't Harvey, Jen, but it's another pix from my collection. It's a promo for a guest appearance on Mike Hammer.

(http://www.dsboards.com/images/MHammer.jpg)
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Post by: Cassandra on August 30, 2002, 11:07:46 PM
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Dear Cassandra,

Many years ago, (after DS had been off the air for a number of years) I was sitting in an off Broadway theatre, reading the playbill for a show called "Moonchildren."  The play dealt with a group of college students who lived in an apartment building.  Mr. McMillan played the likable (and exceedingly foul-mouthed) superintendent of the apartment building.

Anyway, the playbill listed Dark Shadows as one of Mr. McMillan's past credits.  I sat there, trying to remember just who he played on the show.  It wasn't until the local PBS station started airing Dark Shadows that I saw that the late, great Mr. McMillan portrayed:

SPOILER!!!





Sailor Jack Long who tries unsuccessfully to help the doomed Paul Stoddard escape the Leviathans and also the apparently unnamed Paralled Time 1970 bartender (and Bob Rooney's putative PT counterpart) who runs/owns the Eagle Tavern.  (The place of employment for the immortal Buffie Harrington.)  

Well thanks Bob for clearing that up for me. :)
Thank goodness you're here to help us remember all the little people who ever were on DS, because for the life of me, I still can't recall this character. But it might have been because I really didn't care for the Leviathan scene, so I probably skipped through alot of it. ;)
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Post by: kuanyin on August 30, 2002, 11:42:25 PM
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I just checked IMDB. Paul Dooley was Gus Stemple #l from 92-93; John Karlen was Gus Stemple #2 from 93-96 while Carroll O'Connor was Gus Stemple #3 from 96 till end of series.

Ohh, that is too funny in more ways than one! I didn't watch much the first year, then watched faithfully for quite a while. I didn't realize that the actor I considered her dad, was a. a replacement for ANOTHER actor and b. John Karlen/Willie Loomis. I just remembered this nice, believable looking couple who weren't big Hollywood names playing her parents for years. When they dumped them because they COULD get big Hollywood names, I thought they had just gotten too  full of themselves and it soured me on the show which was slipping anyway at that point. Now that I realize that I got on my high horse for John Karlen, I feel quite justified!
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Post by: Luciaphile on August 31, 2002, 04:06:33 PM
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I just remembered a classic episode of Lost in Space starring Dennis Patrick as the Golden Man, Mr. Keemo. That was a stand-out episode of that series.

He was in an episode of Bonanza too.  It was called "The Hopefuls" and he played a gambler down on his luck.  He and the good-looking Cartwright brother (the one who grew the beard and was in Trapper John, M.D.) teamed up with a group of Quakers or something.  Larry Gates who went on to be HB on Guiding Light played one of the Quakers.  IIRC (I was in the laundromat when I saw this), the Quakers were carrying all this money and while the Cartwright brother was off playing tonsil hockey with Larry Gates' pious daughter, Patrick and some generic bad guys schemed to steal the money.

He looked good.  8)

Luciaphil
(who misses Rawhide and wishes they would air it again)
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Post by: VictoriaWintersRox on September 01, 2002, 05:26:51 AM
Lifetime will be airing an episode of "Mad ABout You" with John Karlen entitled "Flashback" Part 1 tomorrow at noon. It repeats at 1:00am that night. On Tuesday at 11:00am, another episode entitled "Giblets for Murray" will have him in it.

In October, TV Land will be adding the show "Shazam!" to it's line up on Friday and Saturday nights at 1:30am. The John Karlen one will probably air either the first or second week of October.
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Post by: VictoriaWintersRox on September 01, 2002, 04:19:43 PM
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Lifetime will be airing an episode of "Mad ABout You" with John Karlen entitled "Flashback" Part 1 tomorrow at noon. It repeats at 1:00am that night. On Tuesday at 11:00am, another episode entitled "Giblets for Murray" will have him in it.

In October, TV Land will be adding the show "Shazam!" to it's line up on Friday and Saturday nights at 1:30am. The John Karlen one will probably air either the first or second week of October.


Correction, the "Flashback" episode does not air today but it airs on Monday.
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Post by: Carol on September 01, 2002, 04:34:17 PM
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Lifetime will be airing an episode of "Mad ABout You" with John Karlen entitled "Flashback" Part 1 tomorrow at noon. It repeats at 1:00am that night. On Tuesday at 11:00am, another episode entitled "Giblets for Murray" will have him in it.

In October, TV Land will be adding the show "Shazam!" to it's line up on Friday and Saturday nights at 1:30am. The John Karlen one will probably air either the first or second week of October.

Thank you, VWR, so much for this tip! Your a sweetie!
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Post by: Minja on September 01, 2002, 04:53:32 PM
[color=87CEEB]Can't believe Mitch Ryan's name hasn't come up yet...unless I Evelyn Wood sped read over it.  He's shown up a lot over the years on TV and film.  Episodes of Hotel and Love Boat.  And movies like The Judgement and Lethal Weapon!  He's developed quite a range since his DS days, whether he's a wiley southern lawyer or an evil special ops general.

And another conspicuous MIA here is Christopher Bernau, who after his stint as our beloved Phillip Todd in the Leviathan storyline, and a few other things, was the crafty Alan Spaulding on Guiding Light!  His hijinx when teamed with Michael Zazlo's Roger Thorpe were Daytime TV Gold!

I'm sure I speak for a number of the Selby Sisterhood when I say that David's performance in Girl In Blue is quite....revealing!  Mmmmm, Mmmmm, Mmmmm!  Gotta love the afterglow that follows that!
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[shadow=purple,left,300]Always, Minja[/shadow][/size]
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: VictoriaWintersRox on September 01, 2002, 05:29:54 PM
Oh yes, Mitch Ryan lol. I remember watching "Dharma & Greg" during season one, never got into that show. That show got cancelled this season, it's also going into reruns in a few weeks on local stations.

Kate Jackson is who drew me to the show originally. I remember reading something on a TV News Site saying 'Dark Shadows fans - The Barnabas episodes start soon!' around October of 2001. In Febuary of this year, I was looking at Conrad Bain's IMDb entrie and saw Dark Shadows listed as one of his credits. I skipped over it though. Then I went to look at Kate Jackson's IMDb entrie and saw it listed on her's too. So I saw that it aired and decided to watch it and now I'm hooked. I thought Kate was great in "Charlie's Angels", she was my favorite on there. I've only watched one episode of "The Rookies", and it featured her as the main character of the story - which was very rare, since Kate was usually not in a large portion of the hour. She was being stalked by this crazi person who kept reciting the line 'Mary had a little lamb' over the phone. I've never liked her last succesful drama, "The Scarecrow and Mrs. King".

I'm surprised Anthony George's drama, "Check mate" (1960-1962) didn't last that long. I've never seen it, but last I read was that TV Land had acquired the rights through a deal that got them 30 dramas. The deal probably has expired by now, but it also included a Mitch Ryan drama in it, lol. Anyway, I'm surprised it didn't last that long. During it's first season, it made it into the top 20. I wonder what caused it's ratings to go, er, kaput.

I haven't seen that much with DS actors in different roles. I do have the episode of "Charlie's Angels" where Thayer David appears, but his character I believe has no lines in it and hel ooks nothing like Thayer - I wonder if it's even the right person, lol. I've seen John Karlen on "Shazam!" but that's pretty much it.
Title: Re: Favorite non-DS performance by cast?
Post by: scout75 on September 01, 2002, 05:34:26 PM
My favorite Mitch Ryan performance is as an obnoxious Arizona detective in the long-forgotten 1973 film Electra Glide In Blue, starring the ever-charming Robert Blake...
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Post by: Craig_Slocum on September 02, 2002, 02:40:16 AM
I have been taping the episodes of Father Knows Best, and Gunsmoke, trying to catch the ones Craig Slocum was in. Has anyone here ever seen those episodes? I'm sure I have, but just don't remember, it's been so many years.