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Title: "WHAT WAS THAT QUESTION AGAIN??
Post by: Annie on August 07, 2002, 02:44:50 PM
Hello, all what a funny moment with Willie and
Barnabas when he came back and explained about
Maggie !!!  And it seemed like Willie didn't hear
where Adam went which was CollinWood!!
HUH????? Willie to Barnabas:  Where did he
he go???? COLLINWOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Geez, don't ya understand??? Get the lead out
boy!!! Or get the hearing checked!!!
                    Love Anne :o :o ?!? ?!? ::) ::)
Title: Re: "WHAT WAS THAT QUESTION AGAIN??
Post by: Raineypark on August 07, 2002, 03:11:23 PM
 No, he's not listening...he's hysterical.  Verbal incoherence is virtually Willie's trademark.

Besides, Adam WASN'T at Collinwood, and Willie knew it...he had just seen him sitting under a tree, right?  

Sorry, Annie....gotta stick up for Willie.  You'd do the same if it was Quentin, wouldn't you?  ;)

Rainey
Title: Re: "WHAT WAS THAT QUESTION AGAIN??
Post by: Annie on August 07, 2002, 04:02:31 PM
Hey Thanks Mark Rainey i forgot about the
Adam being under the tree ( DUH)!!!! And yes
i would stick up for The Q-man if it was him
No need to applogize   Take Care Anne ;)
Title: Re: "WHAT WAS THAT QUESTION AGAIN??
Post by: Raineypark on August 07, 2002, 04:49:27 PM
Uh....that's Raineypark, Annie...not Mark Rainey.

I don't think Mark has the hots for Willie the way I do!!

[lghy]

Raineypark
Title: Re: "WHAT WAS THAT QUESTION AGAIN??
Post by: Carol on August 07, 2002, 05:25:29 PM
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I don't think Mark has the hots for Willie the way I do!!

[lghy]

 Gee, Rainey, think we can share Willie--at least some of the time? Or, maybe he'd like both of us at the same time.
Title: Re: "WHAT WAS THAT QUESTION AGAIN??
Post by: Annie on August 07, 2002, 05:46:53 PM
Oh sorry i feel terrible now must of misread it
wrong!!  Hello, RaineyPark    (Anne will go
and hide in The West Wing and stay out of everyone's
way.      :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-/ :-/
                   Anne
Title: Re: "WHAT WAS THAT QUESTION AGAIN??
Post by: Raineypark on August 07, 2002, 07:04:08 PM
Annie,....I really don't think your mistake deserves hiding in The West Wing,....but if you're going to, say hello to Martin Sheen (President Bartlett). HE once stole a Tony Award caliber role right out of John Karlen's hands....they were the last 2 actors up for the part and Martin Sheen got it because the director thought he was "more vulnerable" looking! [shckd]

[bawl]  What an idiot!!!

I've often wondered.....John Karlen in "Apocalypse Now"?

Raineypark!
Title: Re: "WHAT WAS THAT QUESTION AGAIN??
Post by: Raineypark on August 07, 2002, 07:11:06 PM
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Gee, Rainey, think we can share Willie--at least some of the time? Or, maybe he'd like both of us at the same time.

:o  Whoa Carol!!!.....we're talking about a guy who hasn't even wrangled a kiss out of Maggie yet!....I think we'd have to take it slow and easy with him.......

[lghy]BWAAA HAA HAA!! Yeah, Right!!!....meet you at the Old House!!


Raineypark
Title: Re: "WHAT WAS THAT QUESTION AGAIN??
Post by: Connie on August 08, 2002, 12:47:19 AM
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:o  Whoa Carol!!!.....we're talking about a guy who hasn't even wrangled a kiss out of Maggie yet!....I think we'd have to take it slow and easy with him.......

[lghy]BWAAA HAA HAA!! Yeah, Right!!!....meet you at the Old House!!


Can I film this?

-CLC
Title: Re: "WHAT WAS THAT QUESTION AGAIN??
Post by: Craig_Slocum on August 08, 2002, 03:46:07 AM
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 Verbal incoherence is virtually Willie's trademark.


Another is his irrational decisions.
Title: Re: "WHAT WAS THAT QUESTION AGAIN??
Post by: Raineypark on August 08, 2002, 05:50:03 AM
I don't agree that his decisions are irrational.  Adam is irrational.....right now, Liz is irrational.  But Willie's decisions are just....simpleminded.  He can think a thing thru quite carefully from A to B....but as soon as C happens, he can't think his way around it.

Getting Maggie out of harms way required getting her out of town.  He tried to convince her to go herself.  He even thought about the expense and tried to hand her money.

(Where did he get that fifty, I wonder? Has Barnabas been direct depositing his pay in the Collinsport First Credit all these months and months?)

When she refused to go, he knew he had to get her out of that house by force.  He knew she wouldn't go quietly so he recognised the need for the chloroform.  He knew he had to hide her to keep her safe so he chose the most secret place he could think of.

The part he didn't think through was that she would refuse to believe him.  He didn't think about the fact that she doesn't really understand how much he loves her.    When you're telling someone you love the absolute truth, and desperately trying to save their life, it's hard to comprehend their refusal to believe you.

Willie's not irrational....please, next to Barnabas, Julia and Adam, he's the Voice of Reason!

He's just not quite smart enough to pull off what he knows needs to be done.

Raineypark
Title: Re: "WHAT WAS THAT QUESTION AGAIN??
Post by: Mark Rainey on August 08, 2002, 06:36:56 AM
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I don't think Mark has the hots for Willie the way I do!!

No, but I get the Willies pretty often.

[shadow=red,left,300]--Mark[/shadow]
Title: Re: "WHAT WAS THAT QUESTION AGAIN??
Post by: jennifer on August 08, 2002, 08:21:08 AM
i'm with you Rainey at least he is loyal unlike those two at times!

jennifer
Title: Re: "WHAT WAS THAT QUESTION AGAIN??
Post by: petofi on August 08, 2002, 04:58:29 PM
From a dramatic point of view, Willie may represent the frightened child in all of us(the audience)in terms of his reaction to all of the horror.  While others seem calm, or at least rational, Willie, for me, represents a more realistic, organic point of view.  His reactions of fear and helplessness seem more in line with what many people, particularly children(a vast part of the original DS audience), would really experience if faced with a horrific situation like vampirism or being forced to rob graves. :o  He makes an excellent witness to the goings on, a conduit between the audience and the dramatic machinations of the show and its characters. Little David Collins served the same function at various times in the show, at least in terms of the child-audience point of view.

Petofi
Title: Re: "WHAT WAS THAT QUESTION AGAIN??
Post by: Raineypark on August 08, 2002, 05:13:36 PM
Fascinating analysis, petofi.....I never saw it quite that way.  You're absolutely right in describing Willie's behaviour as child like, of course.  

Which makes me wonder if the producer and the writers actually thought that concept out, or simply stumbled into it like lucky blind mice?  Given the 'quality' of the current story line, I'm inclined to go with the blind mice theory!   ;)

Raineypark
Title: Re: "WHAT WAS THAT QUESTION AGAIN??
Post by: kuanyin on August 08, 2002, 09:45:45 PM
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Willie's not irrational....please, next to Barnabas, Julia and Adam, he's the Voice of Reason!

He's just not quite smart enough to pull off what he knows needs to be done.

I have to agree with you 100%. I love the "half-witted kid" term that Karlen used to describe Willie. Though that doesn't give him credit for his loyalty and loving nature. I would call him a half-witted sweet kid. When he isn't taunting Adam with a chicken leg, naturally!
Title: Re: "WHAT WAS THAT QUESTION AGAIN??
Post by: Carol on August 08, 2002, 11:01:35 PM
First of all, I have to agree with petofi, Raineypark and kuanyin on their opinions of dear Willie.

Sometimes the poor guy doesn't know enough to come in out of the rain but he has a good heart and his intentions are true--he doesn't want any more bad things to happen to the people he cares about.

Unfortunately, he doesn't think things through before going off on a toot; then has to face ridicule from Barnabas or Julia for even attempting to solve a problem.  At least he triesto remedy a situation which is more than I can say for Barnabas or Julia.