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Title: The Edge Of Night
Post by: Bouchard on July 30, 2002, 11:35:51 PM: I hear that The Edge Of Night is A LOT like Dark Shadows! Has anyone seen it? Is it good? I really wish Sci-Fi would air this too! It seems pretty good...
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: Dr. Eric Lang on July 30, 2002, 11:48:41 PM: I used to watch Edge of Night. It's not really very much like Dark Shadows. It was more of a traditional soap, although the stories tended to center around the courtroom rather than the hospital as most soaps did back in those days. They had some good murder mysteries and intrigue, and occassionally they did have a "ghost" show up, but it was usually done in a way to suggest the ghost was merely the specter of someone's imagination. Good show, but not Dark Shadows.
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: WileyS on July 31, 2002, 12:46:11 AM: Based on everything I've heard about Edge of Night I really wish it would re-run....love mysteries/thrillers so think I would enjoy the show.
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: joe integlia on July 31, 2002, 01:17:51 AM: it was promoted as the 1st MYSTERY soap opera. when it switched from cbs to abc, our local affiliate did not show it. instead a uhf station showed it the next morning, so i never watched it. at least two DS cast members were on the show. JOEL CROTHERS and ROBERT GERRINGER. USA network repeated the last 5 yrs of the show, back in the 80s. if it was owned by abc, it would probably be showing on soapnet but it was/is owned by p+g.
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: doombuggy69 on July 31, 2002, 02:01:58 AM: What memories this post brings back. I used to stay up late at night and tape all the USA Network EDGE OF NIGHT reruns. They reran the last 3 and a half years, (not 5) of EDGE. June 1981-Dec 1984, in the latter part of the 1980's.

There was an interview conducted with the programmer of Soapnet recently on their website, and EDGE was one of the shows mentioned as one they expect to pick up in a couple of years. They also want to get DS eventually too. The problem is Soapnet is so new, they don't have the funds pick up the old reruns of many soaps. And from what I hear, Proctor and Gamble, (which owns the EDGE series) charges a ridiculously high fee for syndication. Don't be surprised if it turns up on Soapnet eventually though. Only recently did they start to make a dent in the cable market, and generate some ad revenue. In case anyone is interested, P&G is only offering the 1977-1984 episodes of EDGE for syndication. Unfortunately, many of the shows before 1977 were destroyed.
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: Bouchard on July 31, 2002, 02:07:50 AM: I wish SoapNet would start airing same day episodes of Days Of Our Lives!!!!!!!! During school, I'll have to record, to be able to watch!!!!!!!!! But, if they don't have money, they won't be able to afford anything that belongs to 'posh' NBC! I hope they air reruns from 1999-present of DOOL in the future...
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: doombuggy69 on July 31, 2002, 02:22:46 AM: Soapnet has always been open to running same day repeats of the NBC and CBS shows, and has even had discussions with both networks. So far nothing has come out of the negotiations. Columbia which owns DAYS, has been trying for 5 years to launch their own Soap network but has not been able to get the project off the ground.
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: Birdie on July 31, 2002, 05:44:21 AM: I remember watching the Edge of Night. I think it came on either just before or after DS when I watched it. I don't remember much about it. Just one story line is trapped in my memory bank. It was about a person dressed up as a clown posioning a young girl. It was a fun show but not as much fun as DS.

Birdie
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: Craig_Slocum on July 31, 2002, 06:43:10 AM: Quote
I wish SoapNet would start airing same day episodes of Days Of Our Lives!!!!!!!!

I wish SoapNet would show As The World Turns, when Craig Slocum was in it. That would make my day! :)
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: Mark Rainey on July 31, 2002, 07:02:52 AM: When I was a kid, my mom watched THE EDGE OF NIGHT, along with AS THE WORLD TURNS and SECRET STORM. The opening of EDGE back then was quite memorable to me. The show held my interest on those occasions that I watched it, and I know I caught a few episodes of it in the early 80s.

Here's a link to a great Web site about the show:

http://lavender.fortunecity.com/casino/403/

[shadow=black,left,300]--Mark[/shadow]
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: doombuggy69 on July 31, 2002, 07:47:15 AM: Hi Birdie :)

A slight correction: That was not EDGE OF NIGHT that featured the killer clown you mentioned. It was actually a soap called SOMERSET. That story was in 1971, and featured Joel Crothers as Julian Cannell. The story was very bizarre indeed, as the "killer clown" haunted the dark halls of the Moore family mansion for months. The clown was finally revealed to be that of Zoe. Zoe feared her husband Julian had fallen in love Andrea Moore. First she haunted Andrea to drive her insane, and then she tried to poison Andrea's eggnog! At that time, Somerset was written by the late great mystery writer, Henry Slesar who also created the wonderful mysteries on EDGE, from 1966-1983.

If Craig Slocum appeared on AS THE WORLD TURNS in the 60's or 70's I am afraid most of those shows were destroyed a long time ago!
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: Blue_Whale_Barfly on July 31, 2002, 04:01:52 PM: TEON was a great soap because of its mystery element. There seemed to always be a murder trial taking place.

It got its roots from the Perry Mason radio show but Earle Stanley Gardner wanted to take Perry in a different direction when it went toTV so PM became a weekly court room drama with no soap elements. John Larkin, the original Mike Carr was the voice of Perry on the radio soap.

Many of the older episodes were done live so no tapes exist.
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: jennifer on July 31, 2002, 04:34:21 PM: I don't think we get SoapNet here in Boston but would to love see Grayson in OLTL :)

jennifer
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: doombuggy69 on July 31, 2002, 06:46:42 PM: Edge of Night was the last soap to be broadcast live. It's final live telecast was in 1975 when it switched from CBS to ABC.

For all you trivia fans, Michael Stroka played a character on EDGE in 1975 called Dr. Quentin Henderson! Yes, QUENTIN!! I wonder if that was intended to be an in joke reference to his DS days?
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: Cassandra on July 31, 2002, 10:15:56 PM: Quote

I wish SoapNet would show As The World Turns, when Craig Slocum was in it. That would make my day! :)

Cheryl, when was Craig on the show? I use to watch it but I can't seem to recall him on the show?
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: Angelique_s_Sis on July 31, 2002, 11:13:36 PM: :) I used to watch Edge of Night when I was a kid. I remember Joel Crothers as Miles. He had a mustache on that show. I don't remember it being so much as a mystery as a usual soap.

Whenever I saw a former DS cast member on another show - oh.....there's so-and-so! ;D
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: VAM on August 01, 2002, 02:13:14 AM: As I remember there was a character on EDGE OF NIGHT named Mrs. Whitney, who was similar to Katherine Chancellor on YOUNG AND THE RESTLESS. She was very very rich and powerful...
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: doombuggy69 on August 01, 2002, 02:29:42 AM: Are you referring to Geraldine Whitney?? She was a semi wealthy character played by Lois Kibbee from 1971-1984. Kibbee co-wrote the "Bennett Playbill" with her dear friend Joan Bennett. Sadly, Ms. Kibbee died in 1989. You might also be thinking of the character of Raven, from the late 70's early 80's. Raven married Sky Whitney for his money but found he was an imposter, who had plastic surgery to look like the real Sky. When the imposter Sky's murderous deeds caused his death, the real Sky came back from the dead, and Raven later married him!
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: Patti Feinberg on August 01, 2002, 03:23:38 AM: My Father in law was an editor of Edge of Night.
(At the time...Screen Gems UEU?)
I can get info if you want; just e-mail me.
Patti
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: VAM on August 01, 2002, 03:30:46 AM: Quote
Are you referring to Geraldine Whitney?? She was a semi wealthy character played by Lois Kibbee from 1971-1984. Kibbee co-wrote the "Bennett Playbill" with her dear friend Joan Bennett. Sadly, Ms. Kibbee died in 1989.

Yes, it was Mrs. Whitney. She was quite a character. I wasn't a regular viewer. However, I do remember her. My mother watched the show.
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: AllMyShadows on August 01, 2002, 04:03:38 AM: I read that Louis Edmunds was on "All My Children" from 1979 to 1995 playing Langley Wallingford, the husband of society dame Pheobe "Duchess" Tyler Wallingford (played by Ruth Warrick). I'd like to see some classic AMC episodes. A friend of mine told me that tapes of daytime shows were not destroyed after 1982. That's a shame because I wanna see Chuck Tyler collapse at his and Tara Martin's wedding! ;) ;D ;) ;D
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: doombuggy69 on August 01, 2002, 04:13:14 AM: Quote
I read that Louis Edmunds was on "All My Children" from 1979 to 1995 playing Langley Wallingford, the husband of society dame Pheobe "Duchess" Tyler Wallingford (played by Ruth Warrick). I'd like to see some classic AMC episodes. A friend of mine told me that tapes of daytime shows were not destroyed after 1982. That's a shame because I wanna see Chuck Tyler collapse at his and Tara Martin's wedding!

Your friend is slightly off on the year. Actually ABC has all their soaps saved going back to at least 1978 or 1979. Anything pre 1977 is mostly gone. Soapnet ran a 1981 episode of AMC with Louis Edmonds last year in a marathon of classic shows.
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: victoriawinters on August 01, 2002, 04:52:30 AM: my name is victoria winters...

this post and some others are just making me cry :'(. i miss some of these old shows so much. edge of night was great i cried when they took that off. somerset was also great i remember very clearly when it went off the air staring a very young jobeth williams (the mom in poltergeist).

i also remember mac dying on another world in the 80s (closer i know). i cried for weeks.

i guess this membership must be my age or older to remember all these great shows. i'm glad to be with my peers. :D
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: Linda on August 01, 2002, 09:19:38 AM: Quote
I hear that The Edge Of Night is A LOT like Dark Shadows! Has anyone seen it? Is it good? I really wish Sci-Fi would air this too! It seems pretty good...

I watched TEON off and on in the 70's, and I don't remember it having a supernatural element until maybe the very end...IIRC, the last episode featured someone who got tossed back in time, but my memory of it is very hazy. I do remember the show as being mystery-oriented, and I believe the last couple of years prominently featured the Raven and Sky characters as "married detectives extraordinaire..." kind of a Nick and Nora Charles knock-off, I guess.

I'm pretty sure that HAA did a brief turn on the show, although I can't remember if it was TEON or Another World in which he played a really oily interior decorator. Someone told me that he was a real hoot in the role. :D

I would love to see TEON episodes again, and I *finally* live in a place where we get SoapNet. :)

Cheers,

Linda
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: doombuggy69 on August 01, 2002, 09:34:05 AM: Linda,

Edge was definitely a mystery oriented soap for 29 years. Murders and police crime drama took center stage over romance and love stories. Edge never did anything as far out as a time travel story. In the last episode, which ended on a cliffhanger, two past villains "rose from the dead" but only one person could see them. The most they went into the fantasy/sci fi mode was in 1983. That story dealt with a mad man who hypnotized the entire town with subliminal messages piped through the cable tv. Shades of George Orwell's, 1984!

And yes, that was Humbert Allen Astredo that played the mayor, in several brief appearances on EDGE from 1979-1980. I do believe HAA was an interior decorator on Another World in the early 70's. What do want to bet he decorated everything in GRAY!!
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: Linda on August 01, 2002, 09:53:25 AM: Quote
Linda,

Edge was definitely a mystery oriented soap for 29 years. Murders and police crime drama took center stage over romance and love stories. Edge never did anything as far out as a time travel story. In the last episode, which ended on a cliffhanger, two past villains "rose from the dead" but only one person could see them. The most they went into the fantasy/sci fi mode was in 1983. That story dealt with a mad man who hypnotized the entire town with subliminal messages piped through the cable tv. Shades of George Orwell's, 1984!

Aha! That explains it...In the last episode, I seem to remember a woman standing there in the last scene, looking shocked...villains rising from the dead would certainly explain *that*. :D I also remember the camera cutting to a wide angle of the town, and it looked very picturesque, but deserted -- maybe that's where I figured she'd gone back in time. I think it was snowing, but it's been years since I've seen it so my memory could be playing tricks on me.

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And yes, that was Humbert Allen Astredo that played the mayor, in several brief appearances on EDGE from 1979-1980. I do believe HAA was an interior decorator on Another World in the early 70's. What do want to bet he decorated everything in GRAY!!

LOL! I asked him once why his DS wardrobe was so sparse...("How come they never let you change clothes?" was my bold query)...and he said that DC really liked him in gray and thusly, he pretty much had no choice but to wear what they gave him ("they put it out, I put it on") It's funny, though...in his early scenes, especially (and probably due to certain lighting arrangements) his suit appeared almost a teal-blue color. He looked almost leprechaunish with that silly hat they made him wear. :)

Cheers,

Linda
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: Craig_Slocum on August 01, 2002, 05:29:54 PM: Quote

If Craig Slocum appeared on AS THE WORLD TURNS in the 60's or 70's I am afraid most of those shows were destroyed a long time ago!

You're probably right about that. We're lucky we still have Dark Shadows. :)
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: RingoCollins on August 02, 2002, 12:24:49 AM: Quote
We're lucky we still have Dark Shadows. :)

We sure are!!!

and this looks like a good place to put in another plug for a recent addiction.... Game show network runs old black and white shows from the late 50's and early 60's from 4am to 6am every morning - and they crack me up every day [I tape and watch during the day, because I'm still in a coma at that time!] Right now they have To Tell The Truth, I've Got A Secret and [dare I say it....] Password. As a bonus, they occasionally have a DS star on as a guest [ Joan B was on IGAS a couple o'weeks ago] Check it out, if ya like that old stuff, or if you 'youngsters' wanna see what TV was like when there was only 3 channels, in the Golden Years [wah, wah, wah - Bowie ref.]

It reminds me of sunday nite at home with the parents, when everything looked like the Xmas photo.....on the 'uh oh' thread!!! ;D
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: doombuggy69 on August 02, 2002, 02:30:40 AM: Ringo,

I know what you mean about Game Show Network. Two years ago I got a 1970 mystery guest appearance of Joan Bennett on What's My Line. She talked about making HODS, and a little on the series. Unfortunately, they did not run the infamous Jonathan Frid appearance. In another episode of WML, the host read letters on the air. From one viewer was a letter demanding more DS guests on the show, especially David Henesy! Later on a 1972 WML, Virginia Vestoff turned up as a guest. Match Game '75 featured Kate Jackson. And on a Halloween 1971 episode of The Dating Game, "Quentin's theme" played during parts of the show!
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: MikeS on August 02, 2002, 02:49:47 AM: Although different from Dark Shadows, Edge of Night was an excellent show. As others have noted, its emphasis on crime drama and murder mysteries made it different from the other soaps airing at the time. Also, beloved, good characters were just as likely as the bad guys to be killed off, making its storylines suspenseful and unpredictable. Although, IMO, the show wasn't as good after the termination of long-time head writer Henry Slesar, it was still a sad day when this unique soap was cancelled.

By the way, between her stints on EON as Geraldine Whitney, Lois Kibbee appeared on the soap Somerset, where her son was portrayed by DS's Chris Pennock.
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: RingoCollins on August 02, 2002, 06:20:57 AM: Quote
Ringo,

I know what you mean about Game Show Network.

I just saw a demonstration of a THERAMIN on I've Got A Secret! [from like, 1961!!!]

I'll be on the lookout for the other eps you mentioned ~ I have taped Big Lou on Family Feud, and Joel Crothers [with moustache] on there too. When I get a hint that they are rerunning any of those, I will post an alert. :o
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: doombuggy69 on August 04, 2002, 11:02:36 AM: Quote
I just saw a demonstration of a THERAMIN on I've Got A Secret! [from like, 1961!!!]

Ringo,

I assume that is a reference to the First Theramin Era? That was the "group" that put out that positively dreadful 45 record version of the DS theme in Feb 1969! The flipside of "Sunset in Siberia was a masterpiece compared to the other one. :)
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: Birdie on August 05, 2002, 01:22:02 AM: Thanks Doomsbuggie 69,
There is way too many strange memories of the years I watched way too many soaps. Hey, I am 40 something and you know things start to get fuzzy and head south. Just got back from the Cape and we were treated to a Beach Boy concert. Most of the people there were older than us. It was fun. Take care.

Birdie
Title: Re: The Edge Of Night
Post by: RingoCollins on August 06, 2002, 01:07:36 AM: Quote

That was the "group" that put out that positively dreadful 45 record version of the DS theme in Feb 1969! :)

yep, that was them! and it came with a great picture sleeve -- and the device is used alot by Jimmy Page, too, with a little more skill than the FTE!!

wooooooo-whooooop!