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Title: Diana Walker
Post by: VictoriaWintersRox on July 26, 2002, 06:35:44 PM: What did everyone think of Diana Walker's performance as a temporary stand in for Carolyn during today's 10:00 AM Sci Fi episode?
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: The Ghost of Sarah Collins on July 26, 2002, 06:49:09 PM: Quote
What did everyone think of Diana Walker's performance as a temporary stand in for Carolyn during today's 10:00 AM Sci Fi episode?

As a stand in "Miss Walker" did her best, although I felt Carolyn's absence all the more, no one is quite able to replace "Nancy"

I also heard Roger (Louis) refer to her as Caroline I suppose he also noticed the difference.
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: Donna on July 26, 2002, 08:35:07 PM: IMHO I don't think Diane Walker replaced Carolyn. I noticed the difference in actresses the moment I set eyes on Ms. Walker. I Missed Carolyn today.

Especially the scene between Carolyn, Tony, Roger and Adam. Just wasn't the same. Didnt have the same spark as with Nancy Barrett/Carolyn.

I noticed Roger at the beginning too saying Caroline instead of Carolyn. ?!?
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: VictoriaWintersRox on July 26, 2002, 08:57:59 PM: I agree, Nancy Barrett is irreplaceable as Carolyn. Miss Walker did a good job in a temporary role, but I can't see anyone other then Nancy as 'Carolyn Stoddard'. It was weird to see her in so many key scenes, I had expected her to only be in a few unimportant ones. I also noticed Louis Edmonds/Roger calling Diana Walker/Carolyn 'Caroline'.
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: tripwire on July 26, 2002, 09:16:27 PM: this carolyn was way to nice to harry johnson, even agreed to 100 bucks for keeping an eye on adam, the original may have given him 5 and a boot in the rump to get him up the stairs.
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: Cassandra on July 26, 2002, 09:24:18 PM: Im glad that she only replaced her for today's episode, as I could never get use to her playing Carolyn. Carolyn may have the loudest scream, [scrm] but she defenetely doesen't have a rough, deep sounding voice like D.W does!
Remember the dream that Naomi Collins had (during 1795) of Jeremiah kissing a "mysterious woman" in the drawing room of the old house? (It was suppose to be Josette) Well, I swear that it was Miss Walkers voice they used as we all know it defenetely wasn't Josette's voice that we heard. I remember thinking that voice sounds like an old woman! I thought the same thing when I heard D.W.'s voice as well. [bawl]

Why is it that everytime they have a replacement on the show, the actress/actor has no resemblence to the original actor at all? Im sure that they had alot of petite actresses with long straight blonde hair that they could have used. [hdscrt]
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: scout75 on July 26, 2002, 09:42:42 PM: Ms. Walker was a competent actress, but it just was so terribly distracting; the suspension of disbelief needed at times to enjoy drama--especially in the case of Dark Shadows--was hard to get around without Nancy Barrett's face in her bright, shiny place.

This is the only episode Ms. Barrett missed, right?

Right?! :'(
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: Nicole on July 26, 2002, 09:58:59 PM: Diana Walker did as well as could be expected. She wasn't glaringly bad although it wasn't the same watching her and having to associate her with Carolyn.

Which leads to this...

Cassandra said
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Why is it that everytime they have a replacement on the show, the actress/actor has no resemblence to the original actor at all? Im sure that they had alot of petite actresses with long straight blonde hair that they could have used.

Why is that? After watching one actor play a character for period of time, the audience becomes used to seeing that character look, act, etc a certain way. Maybe certain replacements didn't go over so well with the audience because they were absolutely nothing like the actor before them.
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: VictoriaWintersRox on July 26, 2002, 10:00:03 PM: Quote
This is the only episode Ms. Barrett missed, right?

Right?! :'(

Yes that is the only episode Nancy Barrett missed during the run of the show.

~Victoria Winters Rox, Who has learned never to mess with his email address ;)
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: Dr. Eric Lang on July 26, 2002, 10:55:03 PM: Quote

Remember the dream that Naomi Collins had (during 1795) of Jeremiah kissing a "mysterious woman" in the drawing room of the old house? (It was suppose to be Josette) Well, I swear that it was Miss Walkers voice they used as we all know it defenetely wasn't Josette's voice that we heard. I remember thinking that voice sounds like an old woman! I thought the same thing when I heard D.W.'s voice as well. [bawl]

In the 1795 scene you are referring to it was Dorie Cavanaugh playing Josette in the dream, who had earlier appeared as Phyllis Wick at the seance. I don't know why she was used instead of KLS - she might not have been available that day, or else maybe DC didn't want to pay her for a whole episode when she was only featured in that one dream sequence so he hired the day player again. Cavanaugh evidently wasn't around anymore by the time the 1795 segment was over, since yet another day player was hired to play Phyllis Wick at the end.
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: RingoCollins on July 27, 2002, 12:48:53 AM: She did 'OK' but I am glad it was only one show - she didn't have the bite NB has ~ no way the real Carolyn woulda coughed up $100 for Harry that quick [that woulda been like 2 or 3 months worth of 'entertainment' for Buzz about that time!] - and her speech pattern reminded me of the irritating news girl on SNL. She didn't have Nancy's legs, either! ;)
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: Craig_Slocum on July 27, 2002, 12:58:29 AM: Quote
Diana Walker did as well as could be expected.

I think so too. She also looked good with Craig Slocum, she should've been Harry Johnson's girlfriend, she was a lot nicer!
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: Angelique_s_Sis on July 27, 2002, 02:19:34 AM: ?!? Ms. Walker tried to be "Carolyn" but she didn't succeed. Yes, Ms. Barrett would've argued more with Harry over his asking price for babysitting Adam. Probably, would've given him "one of those looks" instead of agreeing so quickly.

At least, it was for only one episode. Nobody plays Carolyn Stoddard like Nancy Barrett. ;D
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: ms._hoffman on July 27, 2002, 03:27:04 AM: I assume they had a stand-in for all the actors in the series. But don't know for sure.
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: Professor1985 on July 27, 2002, 04:40:40 AM: Diana Walker filled in for Nancy Barrett as a temopraelly replacement on episode #578 that aired on 9/11/1968 on ABC-TV at 4:00pmEDT/3:00pmCDT and also Diana Walker also appeared in "As The World Turns".

The subsitute was good and I like Nancy Barrett as the better Carolyn Stoddard. My suggestion is to watch "The Brady Bunch Hour" and it has a different actress playing Jan Brady.

Best Wishes.
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: Cassandra on July 27, 2002, 07:47:45 AM: Quote
In the 1795 scene you are referring to it was Dorie Cavanaugh playing Josette in the dream, who had earlier appeared as Phyllis Wick at the seance. I don't know why she was used instead of KLS - she might not have been available that day, or else maybe DC didn't want to pay her for a whole episode when she was only featured in that one dream sequence so he hired the day player again. Cavanaugh evidently wasn't around anymore by the time the 1795 segment was over, since yet another day player was hired to play Phyllis Wick at the end.

Thanks Chris! Wow, you must have great eyes though, how on earth did you see that? I've tried in vain to see who that woman was and never had any luck finding out. Thanks for pointing it out to me. :)
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: Bob_the_Bartender on July 27, 2002, 03:49:34 PM: Hey Ringo,

I think that your comments about Diana Walker's one-day replacement of Nancy Barrett as Carolyn Stoddard were right on the mark.

However, your candid and subjective comment concerning your preference for Nancy Barrett's gams over Diana Walker's gams left me somewhat perplexed. Please, let's not give all of these wonderful ladies on the the Dark Shadows Forum web site the impression that we're all rapidly turning into dirty, old men (even if we all really are!).

Sincerely,

Bob the Bartender, who remembers the late, great Jean Shepherd's admonition to always, "think clean thoughts!"
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: VAM on July 27, 2002, 04:28:33 PM: Quote
However, your candid and subjective comment concerning your preference for Nancy Barrett's gams over Diana Walker's gams left me somewhat perplexed. Please, let's not give all of these wonderful ladies on the the Dark Shadows Forum web site the impression that we're all rapidly turning into dirty, old men (even if we all really are!).

Sincerely,

Bob the Bartender, who remembers the late, great Jean Shepherd's admonition to always, "think clean thoughts!"

Bob,

Are you coming back to Sunday School? ;)
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: Mark Rainey on July 27, 2002, 06:03:56 PM: Quote
Please, let's not give all of these wonderful ladies on the the Dark Shadows Forum web site the impression that we're all rapidly turning into dirty, old men (even if we all really are!).

"Turning" into dirty old men? Apparently we have a late bloomer. ;D

[shadow=black,left,300]--Mark[/shadow]
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: RingoCollins on July 27, 2002, 06:56:59 PM: Quote
we're all rapidly turning into dirty, old men (even if we all really are!).

"think clean thoughts!"

Who the hell is OLD? ;D
[experienced, insightful, wisened, well braced, maybe, but old?????]

and I thought the quote was from Carol Channing!! :-X ?!?

Hey! Mark said 'Bloomer' :o

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if there were any that were actually offended,,,,,, sorry, a little....... but I haven't made ONE comment about the Catholic Youth Conference happening this weekend, now have I????
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: ROBINV on July 28, 2002, 01:22:28 AM: Nancy Barrett WAS Carolyn Stoddard. Ms. Walker was competent, but there were just too many key scenes that were intepreted very differently from what NB would have done with them. Nancy Barrett was apparently ill and this was a necessary change. I just wish she wasn't in every single scene of this show!

Love, Robin
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: Luciaphile on July 28, 2002, 05:48:16 AM: Wasn't overly wild about Walker, but given the situation, I don't know what else we could have expected of her. We all have a preconceived conception of Carolyn. Walker was on for one episode (so like 20 minutes), presumably at short notice.

It usually takes time for a replacement to shine/be accepted by the audience, unless the one they're replacing is so bad (James Hall comes to mind) that anything is a relief.

Plus she had to wear that horrid, awful, evil, scary, bad dress ;)

Luciaphil
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: Connie on July 28, 2002, 06:09:32 AM: Quote
Please, let's not give all of these wonderful ladies on the the Dark Shadows Forum web site the impression that we're all rapidly turning into dirty, old men (even if we all really are!).

Sincerely,

Bob the Bartender, who remembers the late, great Jean Shepherd's admonition to always, "think clean thoughts!"

Well, I think it's interesting hearing a male perspective concerning the women on the show and their characters - what's appealing, what isn't, etc.

-CLC
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: Barnabas on July 29, 2002, 04:59:20 AM: Quote
Diana Walker filled in for Nancy Barrett as a temopraelly replacement on episode #578 that aired on 9/11/1968 on ABC-TV at 4:00pmEDT/3:00pmCDT and also Diana Walker also appeared in "As The World Turns".

The subsitute was good and I like Nancy Barrett as the better Carolyn Stoddard. My suggestion is to watch "The Brady Bunch Hour" and it has a different actress playing Jan Brady.

Yes, there was an episode of The Simpsons where they kind of lampooned the Brady Bunch Hour when they did a Simpsons "TV Special" and had someone else as Lisa and Homer says, "No one will notice". I wasn't crazy about Diana Walker as Carolyn, but it was common back in the '60's to have someone completely different fill in for an actress when they were out. Think of Joan Crawford's filling in for Christina.
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: Cassandra on July 29, 2002, 07:43:24 AM: Quote

Think of Joan Crawford's filling in for Christina.

Now that is something I sure wished I had seen!! ::)
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: Midnite on July 29, 2002, 11:31:58 PM: Quote
Barnabas wrote:
>> Think of Joan Crawford's filling in for Christina. <<

Now that is something I sure wished I had seen!! ::)

I don't know if any film clips of her standin role in Secret Storm exist, but you might want to check out the Joan Crawford documentary about her life that debuts on TCM this Thursday.
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: Dr. Eric Lang on July 30, 2002, 02:00:12 AM: Quote

Thanks Chris! Wow, you must have great eyes though, how on earth did you see that? I've tried in vain to see who that woman was and never had any luck finding out. Thanks for pointing it out to me. :)

Not eyes - ears. I had watched the seance episode on tape just prior to seeing that dream episode early in the 1795 story line and the voice is unmistakably the same woman who played Phyllis Wick.
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: mfmdpt on July 30, 2002, 05:15:56 AM: Whatever we might think of Ms. Walker's performance as Carolyn (and I don't think much of it :() I always like to point out that after DS, she played one of the lead ingenues on a short lived soap called Where the Heart Is. While appearing on that soap, she even appeared on the cover of AfterNoon TV, which is something only three DS actors ever did while they were on DS. (Jonathan Frid and Alexandra Moltke were on the cover of the premiere issue, and Jonathan Frid and Lara Parker were on the cover of the December 1968 issue. Surprisingly, they never featured David Selby).

For anyone who's interested, I just posted Diana Walker's cover in the archive on the Miscellaneous board. :)
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: Cassandra on July 30, 2002, 07:29:19 AM: Quote

I don't know if any film clips of her standin role in Secret Storm exist, but you might want to check out the Joan Crawford documentary about her life that debuts on TCM this Thursday.

Thanks Midnite! I'll have to check it out. :)
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: Bob_the_Bartender on July 30, 2002, 09:48:05 PM: Dear VAM,

Lord knows, I really should go back to Sunday School!

You know, while some kids were big fans of "Hammering" Hank Aaron of the Atlanta Braves, and other kids were fans of Neil Armstrong's exploits as an Apollo astronaut, I was the kind of kid whose personal hero was Arte Johnson's character, "The Dirty Old Man," on "Laugh In."

Who could forget the "Dirty Old Man's" polished park bench pick-up lines to Ruth Buzzi's frumpy, "Plain Jane" (with that awful fishnet stocking over her head): "You look particularly ravishing today, my dear." To which Ms. Buzzi "responded" with a well-placed shot to the "Dirty Old Man's" head/homburg with her half dollar-laden pocket book. Bang!!!

Sincerely,

Bob the Bartender, who wishes that Bathia Mapes would "sock it to me!"

PS Hey Ringo, how about the alternative expression, "Seasoned Veteran"?
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: Paul on August 15, 2002, 06:08:32 AM: ?!?Did Diana Walker wear a wig? :P
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: Paul on August 15, 2002, 06:17:35 AM: ?!?Color me confused. Let me try to get this straight Dorrie Kavanaugh played Jossette for one episode during the 1795 story. Was it annouced at the beginning of the show? Did they show Dorrie's face? In what other episodes was Dorrie Kavanaugh's voice used? In what other episodes was Diana Walker's voice used? :-/
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on August 15, 2002, 06:40:06 AM: Quote
?!?Did Diana Walker wear a wig? :P

Yes. There weren't many actresses on DS who didn't wear a wig at one time or another during the present day storylines.
Title: Re: Diana Walker
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on August 15, 2002, 06:47:37 AM: Quote
?!?Color me confused. Let me try to get this straight Dorrie Kavanaugh played Jossette for one episode during the 1795 story. Was it annouced at the beginning of the show?

No.

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Did they show Dorrie's face?

No. She was basically a Josette stand-in in Naomi's dream about Josette and Jeremiah. Apparently DC didn't want to pay KLS to come in for just a few lines. ;)

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In what other episodes was Dorrie Kavanaugh's voice used?

I don't think there were any others. The only other time Dorrie Kavanaugh appeared on DS was as the original Phyllis Wick.

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In what other episodes was Diana Walker's voice used? :-/

Except for that one time as Carolyn, I don't think she was ever used.