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Title: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: jimbo on April 03, 2009, 12:31:51 PM
I just woke up and will need my coffee to get through this article especially after reading it quickly and not liking it. Enough of Twilight.

‘Twilight’ saga television series? (http://www.examiner.com/x-2174-Arizona-Family-Examiner~y2009m4d3-Twilight-saga-television-series)

Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 03, 2009, 05:40:58 PM
Obviously this woman has no idea that Depp doing the DS film is not merely rumor, it's fact. But then, it would seem that she'd rather speculate than actually check facts because, after all, that's so much easier - and her whole article is nothing but speculation.  [easter_rolleyes]  Still, it's never a bad thing to see DS being discussed.  [easter_wink]

As for "enough of Twilight," now you know how the people who thought there was too much publicity about DS back in its heyday felt.  [easter_cheesy]
Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: jimbo on April 03, 2009, 06:10:14 PM
MB that was a very poorly written article-like a severely misinformed blogger. I guess she is not too concerned about her professional credibility. Maybe it was too much of an effort on her part to Google Depp and Dark Shadows. It is true there were some positives about DS or that it was discussed. And the part about the Barnabas character being less popular than Twilight's vamp is not a fair comparison. We are talking about totally different time periods and numbers. Were there some people who were tired to hear about DS on it's original run? Outrageous. lol. It must have been those people who could not watch their favorite program because some kid was using the set to watch Dark Shadows. No DVRs back then.
Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 03, 2009, 06:45:24 PM
Were there some people who were tired to hear about DS on it's original run? Outrageous. lol.

There were plenty of letters published in both the daytime and teen mags complaining that DS got too much coverage. Personally I never saw what the problem was. But then, no DS fan would have.  [easter_grin]  And I suspect no Twilight fan sees a problem now.  [easter_wink]
Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: katrinavantassel on April 03, 2009, 07:42:41 PM
While reading this article I got the impression the reporter thought DS was from a novel, like Twilight. I can't really see what all the mania regarding Twilight is all about. I stopped reading the book halfway through because it didn't hold my interest enough. That being said, I did enjoy the movie  [easter_grin]

But this would not be the first 'new' vampire series if it was produced. What about Moon Light and Blood Ties? They were pretty decent vampire shows and both got the heave-ho. Is prime time ready for another vampire? Excluding the HBO series True Blood as not everyone gets that station, I'm not sure. What do you think?
Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: Nancy on April 03, 2009, 08:11:06 PM
The article certainly lacked perspective.  DS was wildly popular back in the day and paved the way for other TV vampires.  The special effects, though not always perfectly executed, were ambitious and groundbreaking for daytime television.  That I give DC credit for.
Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: jimbo on April 03, 2009, 08:20:48 PM
Nancy I agree.

katrinavantassel I think a Twilight TV series would probably work due to its large fan base but would its producers allow a TV series at this time? Some one wants to get permission to film a Star Trek television series even with the new Star Trek movie that will be released next month and a sequel has already been ordered. Bryan Fuller Wants To Mount A New STAR TREK TV Series!! (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/40515) I wonder what would have happened if the 2004 DS pilot went to series and was still on the air would the rights to film a DS movie have been sold to Johnny Depp? I think if Depp passes on the DS sequels Dark Shadows could find itself back as a television series in my opinion. I think prime time is ready for a new vampire series.

Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 03, 2009, 08:31:42 PM
But this would not be the first 'new' vampire series if it was produced. What about Moon Light and Blood Ties? They were pretty decent vampire shows and both got the heave-ho. Is prime time ready for another vampire?

The CW is certainly hoping so - and not just one but at least two - two brothers. They've greenlit a pilot based on the Vampire Diaries book series: Pilot News: Which Vampire Brother Gets Your Blood Pumping? (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Pilot-Wesley-Vampire-1004462.aspx)
Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: Taeylor Collins on April 03, 2009, 10:18:45 PM
I did like the Madonna mention.  I love that such creative, influential people were fans of DS.  It's awesome.  But the blog was misinformed.
Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: jimbo on April 04, 2009, 03:00:41 PM
FYI I couldn't resist leaving a comment at said site to at least bring the writer up to speed and she responded in kind:

Sue says:
James,
Thanks for sharing this information. Depp will make a great Barnabas Collins. Under the right circumstances, there's definitely room for a good vampire series on television. The subject matter seems to always be in vogue.
Sue
AFE
Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: Taeylor Collins on April 04, 2009, 09:13:23 PM
She still thinks it's for Tv. LOL  I watched TWILLIGHT and I liked it.  It was good.  A nice different take on the vampire lore.  However, I prefer my a bit older.... I remember High School well enough, but I am not goo goo ga ga over this movie.  I do think the sequels will be better though....
Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: katrinavantassel on April 04, 2009, 10:46:42 PM
Thanks for posting the vampire article. So, looks like we'll get a vampire series and not DS nor Twilight.

Personally, I wish the leads were a bit older but I understand they are probably trying to appeal to the much, much younger crowd (Twilight age) and that is a good thing which may get the those same people into the theater to see DS. Also, Johnny Depp must have quite a following so lets just hope the movie actually has a good storyline and doesn't rely on special effects to carry it.
Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: jennifer on June 05, 2009, 04:36:29 AM
hey she put a hot picture of quentin there didn't read too much else after i saw that!

i liked twilight it is young but i love vampire love stories and its cute
Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: petofi on June 05, 2009, 07:48:42 PM
I agree that "Twilight" is geared toward the younger demographic, but hey, WE were that demo during the original run, and kept DS in the pink for a time.  The books are all written on about a sixth-grade level (not a knock), but I know many adults who read and enjoy them. The reluctant vampire/young girl romance angle certainly has a familiar ring to it, and I'm all for it, if it generates more interest in the genre.  Alan Ball's "True Blood" is a favorite of mine right now, and some of it's story line has a DS-esque flavor as well.

Petofi
Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: MaggieEvans on June 05, 2009, 09:07:42 PM
Okay, first... vampires don't "sparkle". Period.

Second, never before in the history of television has a vampire caused such a fanatical uprising as Barnabas Collins! No one will ever be able to do that again. Teenage girls would rush home to swoon over a middle-aged actor. Why? Two words... Jonathan Frid. I simply don't think any other actor could have pulled that off like Frid did.

So, let them try to put Twilight on television. It will be about as popular as Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Charmed, or any of those other shows that I never watched. Which is totally fine, I mean, Personally I want Twilight to hit the airwaves (okay, after June 12, we won't have "airwaves") and maybe more people will want to discover or re-discover Dark Shadows!

I can not wait to see Johnny Depp as Barnabas! He's an amazing actor, and I don't see him having a hard time with this at all.
Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: Pansity on June 06, 2009, 03:36:44 AM
hey she put a hot picture of quentin there didn't read too much else after i saw that!

LMAO the picture of Quentin was much more entertaining than the article.  Trust me.  [naughty]  Funny thing is, this is the first time i noticed that this shot has him wearing a ruffled poet shirt more suited to the Georgian Period -- or the court of Charles II.

As to Twilight:  Haven't read the books or seen the movie.  However, friends of mine whose reading tastes tend to dovetail with mine tried to read the books -- and gave up out of boredom due to the pace and predictable characters.  Given the size of my to be read stacks already, I decided to give them a pass.

LOL MaggieEvans, I agree completely: Vampires DON'T Sparkle!  That sound you heard was probably Bram Stoker rolling over in his grave.

Jeannie
Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: Taeylor Collins on June 06, 2009, 05:07:38 PM
I like Twilight! It's a different take and a lot of fun. The first book I had a hard time getting into.  The second, I read in two days and I am working on the third!

I would  akin the vampires  in Twillight to godlike!  That is how I perceive them!  That is why the sparkly thing is fine with me.  However, I do have fun with it.  I have a shirt that says, "BUFFY STAKES EDWARD!  THE END!"  All the Twiheads almost die when I walk around in it.  LOL It's great to see them gasp.  And several people are like RIGHT ON! 

All this aside I enjoy the latest take on the vampire lore in the Twillight verse and True Blood verse as well!!
Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: Pansity on June 06, 2009, 07:28:04 PM
I like Twilight! It's a different take and a lot of fun. The first book I had a hard time getting into.  The second, I read in two days and I am working on the third!

I have a shirt that says, "BUFFY STAKES EDWARD!  THE END!"  All the Twiheads almost die when I walk around in it.  LOL It's great to see them gasp.  And several people are like RIGHT ON! 

That's the same book that made my friends give up on the series, so apparently its a common problem.   [ghost_wink]  Maybe I'll give it a try -- once I find the planet with 96 hour days and whittle down the gravity defying to be read stacks.

LOL on the Tshirt.  As we've discussed before in various eps on Watching Project, if you can't have a sense of humor about a show or movie and it's characters, why bother?

Jeannie
Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: katrinavantassel on June 06, 2009, 11:56:50 PM
You are too funny with your t-shirt!  [ghost_cheesy]

I am currently listening to Dracula and have to say that if I read/listened to this before Dark Shadows, I don't think I would have been that enthusiastic about watching the show. The vampire in this story is downright creepy with NO redeeming qualities whatsoever.  I am so glad Jonathan Frid portrayed Barnabas as he did!
Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: Taeylor Collins on June 07, 2009, 02:43:08 AM
I enjoy vampires in all their incarnations mostly.  They are just fascinating! And I have said a million times Barnabas had a lot to do with the whole reluctant vampire craze that has filled our pop culture lexicon ever since the days of DS!

The shirt is quite cut! :) LOL
Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: rainingwolf on June 08, 2009, 06:10:41 PM
I tried reading "Twilight" and couldn't get into it, though the movie was OK. LOVE the True Blood series though, and have read all 10 books the show is based on and completely enjoyed them. Still think Frid did it best though-a compassionate vampire! You gotta love him!
Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: katrinavantassel on June 09, 2009, 02:36:20 PM
Agree with you rainingwolf. Just recently finished watching season 1 of True Blood and those vampires were nasty business.  So much so I can't imagine why people romanticize vampires at all.
Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: jennifer on June 10, 2009, 04:48:41 AM
i like the different take on the vampires in twilight

[spoiler]it was funny in the last book that a vampire that a vampire could have a child never mind doing the dirty haha[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: Josette on June 10, 2009, 05:48:01 AM
Monday morning CNN had a feature about ads relating to the new season of True Blood.  They also commented on the new phenomenon of more sexy vampires and mentioned Twilight.  It seems they are advertising the True Blood as though it were a real drink one could purchase, and apparently some bloggers were disappointed when they found out it wasn't real.  There are also some real products cooperating with them and incorporating “vampires” into ads.  They showed some examples.

When you sleep in a coffin,
It’s easy to think outside the box.

(in smaller letters)
Jobs available for motivated vampires.

It shows “True Blood” on the bottom left
and “Monster.com at bottom right.
-------------------------------
The money you could save
if you were immortal.

Even vampires save 15%.  (This was Geico)
---------------------------------
Dead Sexy
Vampires Prefer the Fusion Shave
(Gillette)
-----------------------------
Feel the Wind
In Your Fangs
(Mini Cooper)

Then the supposed True Blood ads:

Real Blood
Is For
Suckers
----------------------
Friends
Don’t Let
Friends
Drink
Friends
---------------------
All Flavor,
No Bite
------------------

They discussed it a bit afterward, how vampires used to be scary and would kill you and now they are sexy, but then John Roberts added that they still kill you!

The transcript is at the end of http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0906/08/ltm.03.html
and on the CNN home page I noticed a link which I assume is a video, called "Vampire blood for sale, ads say," which presumably is this whole segment.
Title: Re: Twilight vs. DS article
Post by: Midnite on June 10, 2009, 04:19:17 PM
but then John Roberts added that they still kill you!

Thank goodness somebody said it.

Quote
on the CNN home page I noticed a link which I assume is a video, called "Vampire blood for sale, ads say," which presumably is this whole segment.

It's not on the home page anymore, but is still listed under vids from the past 24 hours.  Thanks for the summary, Josette!