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Title: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Watching Project 2 on October 04, 2008, 02:00:06 AM

For those who may have missed it the first time around, here's the montage for Eps #2 and #3 that we created in the forum's VantageNet days to celebrate the '91 series' 10th Anniversary:

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And here are the commercial bumpers for Ep #3 that give a peek at what's to come in the next act:

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(More to come...)

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Nelson Collins on October 04, 2008, 04:10:57 AM

If I haven't mentioned this before, I LOVE the model of Collinwood.  I just wish it better fit with the actual location.

Also, while on the opening credits, I don’t like the theme all that much.  There is something … tinny and insubstantial to it and the florish at the end is rather cheesy IMO.

Technical nitpick:  I’ve had blood drawn before.  The position of the needle in relation to the arm and even the vein were totally wrong.

Barnabas certainly has a romantic way with words the way he describes his every physical sensation throughout the stages of the experiment.  Then we discover, that he wrote poetry to Josette.  How sweet.

Willie cleans up pretty good.  If only something could done about those billy bob teeth…  I liked how he described himself to his Aunt as Barnabas’ amanuensis.  Willie seems to feel very close to Barnabas.  I would guess with his power’s fading as his blood turns more normal, that his supernatural hold over Willie would fade, but Willie has seemingly become quite fond of Barnabas, with all his talk of going fishing and water rafting and teaching him to drive…

And at last a hint.  Mrs. Johnson’s comment to Willie about his father “God rest his soul” Mrs. Johnson's brother? Brother-in-law?

David’s nightmare was cool.  And I have to comment again.  He’s gone from hellion to angel in 2-3 eps.  I accept that Victoria is a phenomenal teacher, but it still jars that David has affected such a change and formed such a rapport with Vicky without the viewers having seen so much as a single scene between them to communicate this change.  It all happens off screen and we are told about it.  The writer in me keeps screaming that his is wrong.   [hall2_grin]

Carolyn is much more tolerable when she doesn’t act as if she is going eat every other character alive.  It was nice seeing her show some genuine tenderness toward Joe and finally, a hint of some back story that isn’t just told us as a fait accompli.

Ten weeks?  Wow, and Julia is still around and Joe too apparently (since that is the excuse she is using to Michael to still be hanging around).  If this story was being told today, the HMO's would be screaming bloody murder that Dr. Hoffman is still treating a simple case of blood loss after ten weeks!  [hall2_tongue]

The blood exploding into dust reminds me of a certain other supernatural show that would have quite a cult following in a few years  [hall2_wink]  though after the first sample exploding like that, why could Julia not have contained subsequent samples so she doesn’t have to clean up broken glass and powdered blood every time?

Julia is quite beautiful, in her own way more so than Vicki or Carolyn.

Ah, our first glimpse of the new Josette painting.  Much better, IMO and much easier to see the resemblance between Josette and Vicki.

As far as the locals knowing and believing there is a genuine vampire around, at least they are smart enough to make the logical connection between the murders and the only new face in town….the confrontation at the old house with Sheriff Patterson and Woodard was tense. Even I was on the edge of my seat…

I’m curious. The Sheriff and Julia remark that all either Barn or Willie need to do if they need anything is to call makes no sense.  Call using what?  There is no phone and no electricity.

Dang, but Woodard is a sloppy snoop.  And despite actually believing there is a vampire loose and learning that his trusted friend and colleague is shielding this creature of the night, he seems to go from cool as a cucumber to dotty scary old man.  Did he not think that the first thing Julia would do when she saw the mess he’d left behind was warn Barnabas?  Why did he not go immediately to the sheriff’s office and wait?  I certainly wouldn’t want to be alone after having learned what I had and not have stakes and crosses and holy water nearby, if not on my person at all times….tsk.tsk. 

The vampire love story moves on a pace and is okay as far as it goes.  The show continues to grow on me, with some real suspense in the several Barnabas scenes during his treatment.  Some of the peripheral characters get some more fleshing out but there is still frustrating lack of character development for most of the cast that aren’t directly part of the vampire story.  Barnabas, Julia and Willie are still the center of the story and are written best.  Victoria, only insofar as she is suspected to be the reincarnated soul of Josette,  is still on the periphery.  So far there is no evidence pointing toward that other than her resemblance.  Apart from that, she had no character and is just a cipher ingénue. 

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Miss_Winthrop on October 04, 2008, 01:47:33 PM

I too like the Carolyn and Joe background hint.  When she reached out to him and he pulled away from her and stared off into the distance was good.  Perhaps small town residents are more suspicious than most but I'm surprised that the scene with Barnabas and prof Woodard at the Old House didn't do more to lessen the tensions between them. So far I'm not defnitely not sympathetic towards Barnabas.  Perhaps thats a good thing.  It seems that at one time there was something going on between Woodard and Julia and maybe his feelings for her are overspilling into what he sees is a potential relationship between her and Barnabas and he's not liking that at all.

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Taeylor Collins on October 04, 2008, 08:49:18 PM

Quote from: Nelson Collins on October 04, 2008, 04:10:57 AM

Julia is quite beautiful, in her own way more so than Vicki or Carolyn.

I concur.  While I believe in the Deep movie Julia needs be a bit dowdy and really into her profession. I don't understand why people think Julia can't be beautiful?  Can we mention the Deep movie?  I hope.  I personally beleive she can be striking, gorgeous, and attractive the traits I thought that Barbara Steele possesd perfectly!   Julia just isn't a SYT!   [hall2_rolleyes] GOGGLE some of the pictures from her yonger years! STRIKING is not the word! I am off to capture and review the last 30 minutes!!

And Joanna is one SCARY vamp IMO!!  Sexy too!

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Lydia on October 05, 2008, 12:33:31 PM

I agree with Nelson Collins on too many points to repeat them.  One possible disagreement, however:

Quote from: Nelson Collins on October 04, 2008, 04:10:57 AM

Barnabas certainly has a romantic way with words the way he describes his every physical sensation throughout the stages of the experiment.

I disliked that part a lot.  If he was really feeling the sensations so intensely, how could he think clearly enough to put them into such fancy words while they were happening?  Anyway, the more I hear Ben Cross's voice, the less I like it.  It's so harsh!

Its amazing how flat those wide old Collinwood floors are.

I like Joseph Gordon-Levitt.  His David such a down-to-earth kid.

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Taeylor Collins on October 07, 2008, 11:39:38 PM

I just want everyone to know (and out mods) I hadn't  give up on posting my reviews.  It's been a crazy last two weeks with me physically.  I hope everyone hasn't given up either.  I miss everyone's posts on DS '91! I am gonna edit tonight and hopefully have it posted in the next two days!

Where is everyone??

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on October 08, 2008, 12:03:35 AM

I haven't had the chance to watch Ep #3 yet.  [hall2_embarrassed]

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Taeylor Collins on October 08, 2008, 12:08:23 AM

I understand people have lives and they are busy.  NO problem MB!  Watch when you can.  I do look forward to your review though!  [128]

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Gothick on October 08, 2008, 12:49:43 AM

I read what Nelson Collins wrote and thought he gave a very fair review of the episode.  I absolutely agree about the sloppy writing.  The whole thing with Woodard was handled so shoddily, and in the next episode, it all slithers into gratuitous, embarrassing schlock.  I really wonder whether the influence of the network suits to have more typical Eighties style horror elements inserted into the production was already making itself felt at this point. 

I loved Barbara Steele's scenes, as mentioned previously, but Nelson has a really good point about our beloved Dr Hoffman's  dodgy lab methods.

I can't get over Julia's manicure.  Every time I see those nails, I wish there had been a sequel to the Natassja Kinski Cat People with Steele as an older Cat Matron, perhaps similar to Elizabeth Russell's character in the original Cat People from the 1940s.  Meeee-OWWW!

Watching it again last year, I confess I was intrigued by Ely Pouget's performance as Maggie.  I thought that character needed to be more fleshed out and Pouget's energy made me want to see more.  Why on Earth was she banging Roger?  Was this ever explained?  Forgive me if I'm not sticking close enough to the actual action of this specific segment here.

Now where's that shot of Joe Haskell's bared butt cheeks? 

Mournfully, Gothique

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Nelson Collins on October 08, 2008, 12:52:08 PM

Quote from: Gothick on October 08, 2008, 12:49:43 AM

Now where's that shot of Joe Haskell's bared butt cheeks? 

WHAT?!?!?
 [female_skull]
Is there an outtake somewhere I am not aware of?  [hall2_tongue]

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Taeylor Collins on October 08, 2008, 02:19:57 PM

I dont' recall any ass cheeks hanging out Gothick. I am sure my 14 year old hormoned body would have forged that into my head! HHHHUUUUM....Lord knows all of his other hot scenes were seared into my noggin! ;)

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Miss_Winthrop on October 08, 2008, 02:52:03 PM

I'm a little more sympathetic towards the Roger and Maggie relationship now that I've thought it over.  He's lonely, he's a man and not quite ready for celibacy despite what is going on with his wife Laura.  Maggie is very attractive, not of his class and he doesn't have anything to lose or so he thinks, so why not, eh?  [skull_winks]

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Nelson Collins on October 08, 2008, 03:26:07 PM

Quote from: Taeylor Collins on October 08, 2008, 02:19:57 PM

Lord knows all of his other hot scenes were seared into my noggin! ;)

Ahem, I require details man!  Details and weblinks!

YOS,
Nelson Collins nee Douglas Campbell

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Taeylor Collins on October 08, 2008, 04:35:37 PM

Well Nelson I was just saying that at 14 being gay and in a small town raised in a religious family MTW shirtless scenes were like porn I could get away with.  I also point you to JEFFERY if you have never seen that one.  MTW kisses another man and it is HAWT!  WHEW!  Plus~~Great MOVIE!

Sorry mods for getting off topic!  ON TOPIC:  I never really understood the big deal about the Maggie/Roger thing.   I actually liked them together as it gave Ely Pouget and Maggie more to do and linked her to the overall plot! 

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Watching Project 2 on October 10, 2008, 04:06:12 AM

Previews:

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Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Taeylor Collins on October 10, 2008, 08:36:02 AM

LOVE. THAT. TRAILER.  I don't understand how that couldnt have excited anyone! THANKS MB   [wavey]   I love that ghost!   [BOO]

Finally got my review typed up.   Tomorrow an new episdoe! YAY! While I was typing up this review I turned on one of the DS soundtracks and it was quite effective at keeping me focused!  Hope you all enjoy and hopefully it will set off some questions or responses to liven this thread back up!

Barnabas is still very HATEFUL!  I don’t like what he says to Julia when she comes in.  Like it’s her fault?  She is experimenting Barney!  Do you know what that word means?  She is breaking new ground!  :P I love that line “My base line sample” and I ALWAYS laugh!  Me and a friend always laugh at that line so that is probably why! ;) However,  I think also  it’s the way BS pronounces sample!  I love her accent as it is slightly different than Jean Simmons and/or Ben Crosses and gives her a different edge.  Great stuff between BS and BC, they do have a great chemistry.  On the contrary to other people’s views I do love Barnabas' speech.  I have been in terrible pain and tried to describe it.  Of course I didn’t describe it so poetically but hey I am not a 200 year old vampire either! I think it is classic DS ’91 dialogue and I ALWAYS remember a lot of the lines from this opening scene and episode in general
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I love the red lights effect in Julia’s lab.  I absolutely always laugh when Julia jumps when the blood pops. It reminds me of another actress ;)

“All all that’s best of dark and light meet in her aspect and her eyes!”  Thank you Dark Shadows.  I had never heard that at the age of 14 and you introduced me to it.  I love when art leads you to other art!   I absolutely enjoyed Barnabas recounting of the WIDOWS WAIL story.  However, this scene (on DVD) is very distracting because in my opinion you can obviously see that it’s the middle of a sunny California day.  Could you compare them MB with screencaps?

I am glad that David is warming up to Victoria.  I know it’s been a short time however, I do think Victoria has been there longer than really portrayed on screen. How do we know what time has elapsed between episodes!? I also think that David and Victoria bonded over Daphne’s death and that he finally found a replacement perhaps for his mother?  There could be lots we are not seeing on screen.  And that is sad but it’s really not Dan’s fault.  If they would have picked up DS the first go around (Which I think  was pretty much a certainity by the Suits and DC), I believe it would have lasted.  How long I don’t know but I feel like we would have had gotten the back order for more episodes if it had launched in the fall.  Back on point:  I also really love the Sarah and David scenes!  They were both good little actors!

Ten weeks have passed.  For those who do not know what the awesome DS ’91 Comics consisted of then let me tell you.  They were constructed to be in that 10 week time frame we didn’t see and they gave you so much more background to the DS story. A lot more character development as well. They even revealed that Victoria [spoiler]was Elizabeth’s daughter[/spoiler].  She was talking to Roger about it. Unfortunately Innovation went out of business and once again we were left on a cliffhanger! GOOD LORD!  I have seen them on EBay and they are usually not expensive at all.  I thought I would be sitting on a gold mine alas I am not!  It’s just as well because I wouldn’t part with them anyway. [8_1_1]

I really like the scenes with Barnabas, Willie and Julia.  They were a good combo too!  I like the exposition about getting old and the fact that Julia notices a gray hair!  I think the scene with the mirror is very touching and I also think that if Barnabas had said, to me, the things he did to Julia I probably would have thought he was attracted to me!  We also have to remember that 10 weeks have passed so they have probably spent much time together and forged a bond. BS looks gorgeous in these scenes and it looks like she has a miniskirt on too.  It’s above her knee.  How appropriate! For someone who is linked with B movies she is a fantabulous actress! 

Again the music is extraordinarily marvelous! ROBERT COBERT out did himself with this one.  Just a great score that keeps one entranced!!  The low base just booms over my surround sound.  It’s beautiful! It has been three years since I watched this and I didn’t have surround sound then.

I hadn’t noticed the changed Josette portrait as a teen or adult.  Thanks for pointing that out!  I like the second one better!  I didn’t notice it in my repetevie watching of the show over the years.  I didn’t ever get the MPI I just watched my old VHS because I knew it would be on DVD.  I thought MPI would do that though and include all the extra stuff. Hindsight is 20/20 I would prefer to have the vids! 

Love MTW he is so sexy and a great actor.  Love the wifebetear and his good ‘ole boy plaid shirt looking self! I guess Joe has been staying at Collinwood!   [10]

I love the pull down shot of Michael Woodards cottage by the sea  and great lighting in these scenes with Julia and him.  Another department I cannot praise enough is the lighting dept. BS presence is amazing.  It’s palpable.  She commands such a strong demeanor! Love it!

Beautiful scene with Joanna and Ben and their first love scene is HOT!!  It’s so not hot though watching it on DS RESURRECTED because Dan is telling them what to do.  [director]  That must be weird!  That is what actors are good at though. This scene, I think, also shows how the whole vampire and sex theme go together. I mean obviously as a male I know how just kissing can get me revved up.   I feel for Barnabas.  I feel that this scene also is quite spooky, haunting and heartbreaking with him standing right there with the woman he cares for, back turned, an animal trying to fight his true nature!   BC and JG were great in this scene!! I feel sorry for B because he seems to PHYSCIALLY hurt. When I was young and KNEW I was gay I identified with B so much.

WOW! Barbara’s nails! Who can say that Julia isn’t glamorous! Hmmph!  I think B really put J in a bad situation. The stock footage sun looked grainy!!  There is a great shot of J in front of the window as the sun illuminates her like the GODDESS she is.  I will post it! 

Again BS is stunning in her black pants, silver belt, black blouse and perfectly painted face with FIERCE red lips. The Old House foyer is gorgeous.  I think B does have super sonic vampire hearing.  He apparently heard what Julia and everyone was conversing about in the foyer!  I remember being so TENSE during this scene as a teen.  [hall_grin]  LOL I also love BS dark eye makeup and they way she is painted.  It adds so much to the character!

More BC chest please, I think I get my request soon!  [hall_wink] It was really sweet when Willie was tending to Barnabas and talked about teaching him to drive. 

Great to see Elizabeth and I think this scene shows the authority she commands as a character and Jean as an actress!  Woodard is sloppy!  Cool that there is a lily pond at Collinwood!  Gothick, this is the episode where Julia says, “I’m afraid the professor is been acting a bit dotty lately” and I love that line! The professor is very stupid and “a fool” indeed.

I think the model is effective when it is bombarded by the elements! I didn’t pick up on the fact that it was a model as a teen .I love how Barnabas is putting out the candles with his fingers and a great shot when he turns to Julia.  I love the floors of The Old House and have noticed the mansion in lots of stuff because of this foyer alone.

I think the final scene is SOMEWHAT misleading and scary and creepy to an extent.  I love how the music stops when Woodard is about to be attacked! Good effect!  He screwed up! BIG TIME!
A-

I am apparently one of the few people who love this episode.  I enjoyed every minute (almost) of it! I cannot wait till the next installment! YAY! YAY! YAY!

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Taeylor Collins on October 10, 2008, 09:58:04 AM

Correction:   “I’m afraid the professor has been acting a bit dotty lately”   Again great line.   [candle_in_skull_2]

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Watching Project 2 on October 10, 2008, 11:56:52 PM

(I didn't realize until I was just working on the promos for Ep #4 that there was also a voiceover over the closing credits.  [hall2_embarrassed])

Voiceover:

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Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Taeylor Collins on October 11, 2008, 12:23:25 AM

LOL!  That is priceless!  That announcer was OVER THE TOP and didn't that fit DS perfectly!

Didn't Don LaFontaine do the voice overs for the DS '91 trailers?  He passed away recently and I just hated that. His voice is so familiar he is like an old friend and the voice is truly unmistakable!  He will be surely missed!

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Miss_Winthrop on October 11, 2008, 12:48:41 AM

I believe I'm probably ahead of most people and have just seen Epi 5.  I'm not sure what Epi is being discussed at this time.  I do have to say that I really liked this episode alot!

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Midnite on October 11, 2008, 02:25:14 AM

Quote from: Miss_Winthrop on October 11, 2008, 12:48:41 AM

I believe I'm probably ahead of most people and have just seen Epi 5.

Yes, the watching project isn't that far yet.

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I'm not sure what Epi is being discussed at this time.

All of the '91 series discussion topics that you see in this board's listing.

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I do have to say that I really liked this episode alot!

Please hold that thought for at least another week!! [hall2_smiley]

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Philippe Cordier on October 11, 2008, 06:46:45 AM

This may be too late to post so I'll just dash off a couple of thoughts.  So far, I've found the DS Revival series to be compelling viewing, but I don't know if I would were I not interested in vampires.  There is generally good interaction between the characters.  Ben Cross and Joanna Going seem to have a real connection in their roles; nearly all of their scenes together work very well.  I like how Barnabas recites poetry ... haven't been able to jot down the words from the poem written by his "namesake" for Josette; would like to google it and see if anything comes up.

The sunlight scene on the landing was very tense and very good.  Ben Cross looked a little too dreadful, though, with his hair all amiss.  Also, his "I cannot help myself" was powerfully done.

The visual look of the interior scenes is outstanding.  I really like the color schemes and the lighting.  And the music is incredibly unique, much if not most lifted from the previous series.

Something I find interesting in this viewing is how some of the characters completely change in their relationships.  For example, Willie goes from terrified to devoted ... Julia goes from good personal friend of Prof. Woodard to near enmity.  The alliances are being drawn.

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on October 11, 2008, 04:11:47 PM

Quote from: Philippe Cordier on October 11, 2008, 06:46:45 AM

This may be too late to post

It's never too late to post. I haven't even had the chance to watch this ep yet, so who knows when my comments will be coming...

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Midnite on October 14, 2008, 07:55:51 PM

I'm also fashionably late to the party...

Quote from: Nelson Collins on October 04, 2008, 04:10:57 AM

Technical nitpick:  I’ve had blood drawn before.  The position of the needle in relation to the arm and even the vein were totally wrong.

As he becomes more human, will she need a tourniquet to find his veins?  (Or a cotton ball to stop the bleeding?)  [hall2_tongue]  I love that she just harpoons the vein and she's in, ha ha!

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I certainly wouldn’t want to be alone after having learned what I had and not have stakes and crosses and holy water nearby, if not on my person at all times….tsk.tsk.

Who invited Barnabas to enter Woodard's cottage?  The cat?  [hall2_huh]

Quote from: Miss_Winthrop on October 04, 2008, 01:47:33 PM

It seems that at one time there was something going on between Woodard and Julia and maybe his feelings for her are overspilling into what he sees is a potential relationship between her and Barnabas and he's not liking that at all.

I honestly can't recall any hint that their relationship went beyond friendship.  Even a future voiceover refers to them as friends, albeit [spoiler]ones that turn against each other.[/spoiler]

A couple of posts mentioned that some backstory was revealed in the scene between Carolyn and Joe.  We already know she wanted him bad despite his relationship with Daphne.  And I used to think that his pulling away from her was new until I noticed him doing the same thing at Daphne's bedside.  So now I'm thinking that this scene pretty much just serves to tell us that Joe was still around (as if most of us could forget him!) but wouldn't be much longer.  [Cue Carolyn to dial up the desperation]

Quote from: Taeylor Collins on October 10, 2008, 08:36:02 AM

“All all that’s best of dark and light meet in her aspect and her eyes!”

All that's best of dark and bright  [hall2_wink]

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Cool that there is a lily pond at Collinwood!

And there's a really cool one near the front of Greystone.  (A place I know you will visit someday!)

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Taeylor Collins on October 15, 2008, 03:50:38 AM

Thanks Midnite for correcting that.  Such a beautiful piece!

That is so cool about the lily pond.  I can't wait to see it one day! And thanks for the gentle reminder that things will get better!  [candle_in_skull]

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Philippe Cordier on October 15, 2008, 10:39:23 PM

The poetry Barnabas reads to Josette in the candlelit chamber in the Old House has been on my mind ... not to mention the Byron poem at Widow's Hill - how appropriate! I've also been reading Edgar Allan Poe lately, and happened on this poem, which I think is very fitting for Barnabas as an address to his lost Josette. As I read it, I can hear Ben Cross's voice as Barnabas.

To One Departed

Seraph! thy memory is to me
Like some enchanted far-off isle
In some tumultuous sea —
Some ocean vexed as it may be
With storms; but where, meanwhile,
Serenest skies continually
Just o'er that one bright island smile.

For 'mid the earnest cares and woes
That crowd around my earthly path,
(Sad path, alas, where grows
Not even one lonely rose!)
My soul at least a solace hath
In dreams of thee; and therein knows
An Eden of bland repose.

- Edgar Allan Poe

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Taeylor Collins on October 16, 2008, 06:46:19 AM

Absolutely Beautiful, I too imagine Ben reciting it and I found it fit perfectly!  Thanks I hadn't heard that one.  I have to admit I have not read much EAP.  I want to.  It's on my list of the other ZILLION things I wanna do before I die!  To me that would be the best thing about eternal life, you wouldn't miss anything. LOL  But all your friends and family would die and that would be horrid...and I am rambling!!   [skelleton_runs]

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Philippe Cordier on October 16, 2008, 10:52:28 PM

Taeylor Collins,

You may want to read the complete poem "She Walks in Beauty" and a very helpful explanation of it here:

http://ezinearticles.com/?She-Walks-In-Beauty,-A-Discussion-of-the-Poem-by-Lord-Byron&id=80761

I found my understanding and appreciation of the poem greatly increased just from reading this.

Title: Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
Post by: Philippe Cordier on October 18, 2008, 01:15:10 AM

I've watched several of these early episodes several times now, but it's hard to keep straight or remember exactly what happened in which episode.  Although I thought this one was fairly good, there were a couple of things I didn't like, which I'm reminded of in some of the preceeding comments.  I didn't like the three gals as vampires in David's nightmare, but I did think the boy actor did a good job when they showed him terrified when Vicki was shaking him awake.

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Title: An Easy Way To Identify The Eps
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on October 18, 2008, 04:59:51 AM

Quote from: Philippe Cordier on October 18, 2008, 01:15:10 AM

I've watched several of these early episodes several times now, but it's hard to keep straight or remember exactly what happened in which episode.

Beginning with Ep #4, the first post in each topic displays a montage for that episode. The montage for Ep #2 is in the discussion topic for Ep #3 because they were shown together as the second night of the miniseries. And the montage for the pilot is in Part 2 of the discussion for it. All of these montages can be referred to to easily identify each ep and refresh one's memory as to what happens in each.  [hall2_wink]  (And the case of the pilot, Ep #2 and Ep #3 the commercial bumper videos can also help.  [hall2_smiley])

Also, I've edited out the comments that referred to Ep #3 that were posted in the discussion topic for Ep #4, and they are now posted in this topic.