DARK SHADOWS FORUMS
Members' Mausoleum => Calendar Events / Announcements Archive => Calendar Events / Announcements '26 I => Calendar Events / Announcements '08 II => Topic started by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 29, 2008, 06:29:45 PM
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This blog entry about the Twilight books references DS and briefly muses on the undeniable amount of popularity vampires have had in our culture: Bella and Edward craze leaves this reader cold (http://www.standard.net/live/tx/144480/)
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A reference to Marilyn Ross' DS books Re: Twilight
http://io9.com/5080617/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-twilight
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Quoted from the Mason Snow blog:
"Another noteworthy fault in the book was Edward. The aspect of a perfect guy has created unsatisfying feelings in many teenage girls.... (snip)... Unfortunately, Meyer's fantasy character has engendered fantasy expectations.
I hate to break it to you girls, but not all guys can save you from trucks flying at you."
So I suppose that means, they shouldn't even TRY? [hall2_grin]
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One of the comments in the following article likens Twilight to "DARK SHADOWS at DEGRASSI JR HIGH." (It'll be fascinating to see who said that once the actual review appears.)
Check out: Early 'Twilight' Twitter Reactions! (http://www.cinematical.com/2008/11/19/early-twilight-twitter-reactions/)
And this next article likens the film to '“Gossip Girl” meets “Dark Shadows.”'
Check out: PEACH BUZZ: Fans frenzied at premiere of ‘Twilight’ (http://www.ajc.com/services/content/printedition/2008/11/19/buzz.html)
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Well. It's not DS related, but the male lead's hair reminds me of Baron Meinster's little pouf (actually three hairpieces sewn together, apparently) in the 1960 classic Brides of Dracula, one of my personal all time favorite vampire movies.
I really, really hope we don't see Vicki pacing the halls of Collinwood with those annoying little white earbuds and her nano-eyepod while some cheesy emo-rock sludge-a-thon plods on the soundtrack in Depp Shadows.
G.
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DS references were coming out of the woodwork today! Not that any of us are about to complain. [hall2_wink]
The following review of Twilight refers not only to DS but to Depp's upcoming film.
Check out: Anemic ‘Twilight’ takes bite out of book’s phenomenon (http://www.dcexaminer.com/entertainment/Anemic_Twilight_takes_bite_out_of_books_phenomenon_11_21.html)
And here's a review that says Twilight is "like an updated 'Dark Shadows'."
Check out: 'Twilight' Film Review (http://www.blackvoices.com/blogs/2008/11/21/twilight-film-review/)
Well. It's not DS related, but the male lead's hair reminds me of Baron Meinster's little pouf (actually three hairpieces sewn together, apparently) in the 1960 classic Brides of Dracula, one of my personal all time favorite vampire movies.
Robert Pattinson was in the Boston area for a public appearance last week. Too bad you didn't get to ask him if he's patterned his hair after Baron Meinster. [hall2_grin]
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the halls of Collinwood with those annoying little white earbuds and her nano-eyepod while some cheesy emo-rock sludge-a-thon plods on the soundtrack in Depp Shadows.
[stfl]
Sweetheart....that made my day!!!
Patti
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Glad you appreciated the zinger, Patti. Every still I see of that performer shows him adorned with an ever-higher pompadour. Fascinating *raises left eyebrow a la Spock*
And MB, I imagine that the gent in question had some formidable security arrangements. Everywhere I go in town these days I hear gaggles of 13 to 15 year old girls shrieking and twittering about that movie. Honestly, it's enough to make one feel like Tippi Hedren. *wink*
I just keep telling myself that more pub for Depp Shadows means we're that much closer to a restored release of Night of DS. I want those missing Grayson scenes and I want the seance with full color and soundtrack, dammit!
cheers, G.
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Oh, and Diana Millay's best scene in the film (NoDS) is coming up in that restoration, too! Mustn't forget the immortal Phoenix!
Maybe an alternate ending for NoDS could have been a reverse on the ending of hoDS--instead of [spoiler]a bat rising from nowhere and winging out into the night air,[/spoiler] a golden bejewelled sacred Bird with the head of a leering, cackling Diana Millay could have come winging down from out of nowhere into the Great Hall with claws extended towards Kate Jackson as she screams and screams and screams ...
Something to help you sleep better, dear *wink*
G.
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And MB, I imagine that the gent in question had some formidable security arrangements.
Actually, from what I've heard, he was pretty accessible to fans prior to the opening of Twilight - though now that Twilightmania appears to be in full swing, that has possibly changed.
And here's yet another article that references DS:
That Nice Vampire Next Door
Is Edward Cullen for real? (http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YWMzMDg5NzRiMDRjNDdlMmNiZTVlMmY3YTY1NTY5MTA=)
Though the author unabashedly admits that she watched DS because she "thought Quentin the werewolf was cute." I suspect quite of few members here would agree. [hall2_grin]
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A Twilight review that, in part, explains how an aunt's love of DS inspired her niece to see the film.
Check out: It's easy to fall for 'Twilight' (http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/nov/29/its-easy-to-fall-for-twilight/)
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Twilight-mania notwithstanding, nothing--I mean nothing--will ever beat out the original. Just finished watching DVD #9 in DS-[spoiler]Willie digging the grave to find a body for Adam's mate--Angelique biting Joe H. --Julia and Barnabas beginning work on the "experiment"[/spoiler]--how can anything compare?! I read Twilight--can't say it was enthralling, but on par with a lot of teen novels. But Dark Shadows will always make my heart beat faster in spite of now viewing it for the 5th time through. [santa_thumb]
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I quite enjoyed the film, which reminded me in some ways of True Blood 90210, not least in the (implied) triangle of mortal girl/vampire hunk/werewolf not-so-secret admirer. Really, one wonders if a reborn Dark Shadows might go with the same thing. Hmmmm... [santa_wink]
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Writer encourages parents to research Twilight and opens with Dark Shadows.
http://www.mcherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081213/FAITH/812130306/1006
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From the above article about researching Twilight:
Parents ... should debrief their teen. Take time to discuss how healthy relationships operate and how God is at work in the real world. Parents should let their teen know that even in the Twilight of the real world very Dark Shadows can fall over a misguided relationship.
I've heard fans talk about their parents' disapproval of the devil worship or vampirism in DS (mine said nothing to discourage or encourage me), but did anyone's parents take exception to the relationships seen on DS, such as Barnabas and his women? Seriously?
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The big issue used against Twilight seems to be Bella as a role model for teen girls, so the more appropriate DS comparison would be these (IMO):
01) Julia's decision to turn her back on her career and her oath as a doctor to help a vampire and her longing for him when he didn't love her.
02) Angelique's obsession with Barnabas that led her to destroy others lives and threaten the life of a little girl all because he didn't want her.
03) Josette decision to kill herself for the second time just because Barnabas didn't come for her.
The main complaint against Twilight is Bella giving up everything for Edward, but many of the women on DS weren't much different. [santa_tongue]
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No. My mom never cautioned me about Barnabas and his women as I am sure she would have wanted to be one of them. She is 74 and still thinks JF is hot. In actuality, my dauhters are reading Twilight and they know what healthy and unhealthy relationships are because we have been communicating about these situations for years now. My girls are in high school and pretty headstrong about things dealing with the opposite sex. And no disrespect to Twilight but it stands no where near the brilliance of DS. Think about it..this show ended 37 years ago and heck it still is going strong with the fans both young and old. That is amazing.
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I did think the writer was a bit over the top with Twilight and Dark Shadows and the potential for misguided relationships in life. My mom never discouraged me for sure-if she did she never let me know. The fact that I was fascinated with something was good enough for her. She certainly never raised an objection when she was watching it with me.
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Methinks we are doing each other something of a disservice when insisting that young people will copy their favorite fictional stories in terms of just one simplistic interpretation of the plot. Reminds me of those who insist that because Harry Potter sometimes breaks school rules--and sometimes gets away with it--that means children reading the books will become habitual liars.
Both Twilight and DS are in some ways about overpowering love, the kind of love that leads one to a total commitment. The latter has such "love" cross over into actual obsession--a la "You are Josette" and Angelique's whole history with Barnabas, etc. Frankly, the former is a lot less disturbing. And the writer with the crack about boys stopping out-of-control trucks with their hands evidently feels young people are not only stupid but genuinely moronic. Edward is clearly a fantasy, and his rescue of Bella is something out of fantasy. The point is that there are plenty of boys (and girls) out there who would do such a thing if they could. For that matter, something similar happens every single day--someone risking their own life and limb to hopefully save another.
It is rather classic to tell a love story by tossing as many obstacles between the perspective couple's union as feasible. Such becomes a test of commitment. Seems to me some of these critics are opposed to love stories where love does indeed triumph...
Which of course never really happened on DS anyway.
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That's cool about your mom, fridfreak. And I think your communication with your daughters is admirable.
What wonderful comparisons, Barnabas'Bride! Did DS even have a satisfactory female role model for its time? While watching the series originally as the feminist-in-training that was pre-teen Midnite, I rooted for Julia to get a life, hated Angelique for her handling of rejection, and kept hoping that 1796 would be re-re-rewritten to give Josette a happier ending. Yet, knowing that Quentin was the quintessential bad boy and a heartbreaker, I wanted him SO bad. Go figure.
DS ... has such "love" cross over into actual obsession--a la "You are Josette" and Angelique's whole history with Barnabas, etc. Frankly, the former is a lot less disturbing.
I'm curious why you feel that Angelique's obsession is a lot more disturbing than his. If judging by results alone, then that might be the case since Barnabas got over his obsession sooner and suffered greater losses (though one could make a case that the latter was often due to the curse rather than to Angelique's machinations). And his opportunities to murder the objects of his obsessive thinking were lost to circumstances beyond his control. Both B & A became obsessed as defense mechanisms, each blamed the other for their emotional pain, and both affected the suffering of others through their special powers as a result-- Angelique targeted his loved ones, and consider what he did to Maggie before setting his sights on Vicki, while who knows what might have happened to Burke had he remained Barn's competition. I find their actual obsessions equally disturbing, just as, in the real world, a man's obsession in which denial plays a major part is just as scary, perhaps even moreso, than a woman's. And to get back to the comparison with today's parents, many are choosing to teach their sons and daughters that a case of obsession by either sex can turn dangerous.
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Ahem. By "former" I meant Twilight. Edward and Bella are a much less disturbing example of obsessive love than either Barnabas or Angelique. [santa_smiley]
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LOL, got it now. [santa_smiley]