DARK SHADOWS FORUMS
General Discussions => Current Talk Archive => Current Talk '24 I => Current Talk '08 II => Topic started by: Willie Loomis on August 27, 2008, 05:54:01 PM
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well, i about almost fell off my chair, when she told barnabas how she fooled liz after they found out she was a doctor. "i meeeeereeeely substituted one lie for anotherrrrrrr....." with that backward head tilt. So proud and happy with herself that she got over, AGAIN! i just went hysterical. sometimes you catch things you never saw before.
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I like your mention of the head tilt. Yes, I don't remember that, it sounds like a good moment. It doesn't make Liz sound too bright, does it?
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It's never seemed that way to me - in fact, more like the opposite. My impression was that Julia didn't like what she had done - either for moral reasons, or because it still left her on shaky ground, or both.
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Oh, Liz was plenty bright. She was suspicious of Miss Hoffman right from the start. I suspect Liz didn't follow through because she had so many pressing issues going on at the time. Jason, Buzz & Carolyn, a strange cousin wanting to lease the Old House...
But Liz is plenty sharp. She knows the score.
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Just think how convenient it was though to have Julia around. Liz also like to have someone around her age around.
I always think that Julia was dancing as fast as she could to keep things moving along.
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The character of Julia Hoffman changed quite a bit over the course of the show. Early JH was rather manipulative and self-serving, she was on a quest and woe to anyone who got in her way. I don't think she cared much about lying in pursuit of her goal--which in her fictional mind would lead to an astounding medical discovery.
Later Julia had a serious conscious and cared about the Collins and their friends. She didn't like using or lying to them.
It happens a lot..I barely recognize the Monica of early Friends episodes with the neurotic mess of the last episodes. . [ghost_tongue2]
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I never liked Friends. But that isn't why we are here. I loved the head tilt too. Early Julia was [spoiler]much like Barbara Steele's ICY version in the 1991 version,[/spoiler] but not quit as cold. She sure did change throughout the years and I agree that she really did COME to love not only Barnabas but his family as well.
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but not quit as cold.
Oh, I don't know. Julia telling Sam that his absence could hasten the day that Maggie might recover wasn't exactly warm and fuzzy. [ghost_nowink] [spoiler]I think it's actually colder than Steele's Julia ever was.[/spoiler]
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WELL TO TELL YA THE TRUTH. I am not a good judge as I have never had the chance to see early Julia on the original. I started watching around VOLUME 20 on the original VHS tapes.
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I did'nt like the way Julia lied about David's discovering of Barnabas's coffin.
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But what was Julia's alternative?
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I did'nt like the way Julia lied about David's discovering of Barnabas's coffin.
I didn't either, but truthfully, Lydia has a point....what else could she have done at the time?
I suppose she could have hypnotized him, but it's unlikely it would have worked seeing as he didn't trust her anymore.
However, later on she does sort of make it up to him when [spoiler] she tells Elizabeth and Vicki that David is in fact telling the truth about the existance of Sarah. [/spoiler]