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Title: Discuss - Ep #0425
Post by: Watching Project on November 09, 2007, 06:25:20 PM
Quote from: ROBINV on April 02, 2002, 09:17:05 PM
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Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0425
Post by: Lydia on November 09, 2007, 06:39:29 PM
I love the way Ben puts his hand on his open mouth when he's trying to think.

Now Natalie says that the details of the events leading to Josette's death were in the book - but really, they couldn't have been.

I'm never as shocked or unhappy over Josette's death as I feel I ought to be.  To a large extent it's because it's so quick, and because we don't see her hitting the rocks.  This is very wrong of me.  The fact that I don't see something doesn't make it any the less tragic.  But my imagination does not fill in the gaps, probably because I don't want it to.  Still, when I watched this episode today, there was a further reason for not grieving so much over Josette's death: I had thought more than usual about who Josette was and what she was to become, and I didn't like it.  Years later we will meet a female vampire who is elegant, not the monster that was shown to Josette.  But even if she were an elegant vampire, Josette would still no longer be Josette.
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0425
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 10, 2007, 08:50:37 PM
Given how it's an understatement to say that DS often lapsed when it came to continuity, I've always thought that it's quite amazing how, when the scene between Natalie and Josette just prior to Josette being lured to Widows' Hill is restaged after Kitty fades into the past in Ep #885, they basically reuse the exact same dialogue. Though they don't get the same clothes:

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1968: Ep #425

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1969: Ep #885 - Josette realizes she has lost Barnabas' ring -
and so the prophecy starts...

However, they often change clothes when they restage a scene that appears in consecutive episodes, never mind when nearly two years has elapsed.  [hall2_undecided]  So, I suppose we should be grateful that they got the dialogue right because, after all, that's what was really important.  [hall2_wink]
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0425
Post by: Sunny_Collins on November 12, 2007, 06:09:03 PM
The storm, Barnabas's voice, and the melody from Josette's music box, all combine to make a very erie atmosphere.

After Josette has fallen over Widow's Hill, Barnabas crying Josette's name and Angelique's delighted laughter create a very tragic scene.

A very sad episode.
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0425
Post by: EmeraldRose on November 13, 2007, 10:02:13 AM
Yes, indeed, this was a very sad episode. [bawl] It's kind of scary in a way, though. [shkdg] It seemed like things were going along OK, but then the lost ring and breaking glass began the events that lead to the end for Josette. Try as she might, Natalie could not change what was to happen. I don't think I would like to know when and how I will die - although I hope it's not for many years to come.

I think Josette broke away from Barnabas, but she didn't jump. I think she just lost her footing at the edge.  [ideag] That scene when she fell, and then Barnabas called out to Josette with Angelique's insane laughter in the air was very dramatic - it's so exciting it had me on the edge of my seat and sent chills up my spine. [hall_shocked] One of my favorite scenes in the entire show. The acting was spectacular. [clap2]

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Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0425
Post by: Roland on February 19, 2008, 02:45:51 AM
Why would the legend say that the sound of shattering glass was heard rather than just saying a lantern was knocked over and broke into pieces?  Why be so enigmatic when the facts are so straightforward and simple?
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0425
Post by: MsCriseyde on February 19, 2008, 03:56:47 AM
Quote from: Roland on February 19, 2008, 02:45:51 AM
Why would the legend say that the sound of shattering glass was heard rather than just saying a lantern was knocked over and broke into pieces?  Why be so enigmatic when the facts are so straightforward and simple?
Short English major answer: Because legends lose their mystique if they are straightforward.  [snow_wink]
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0425
Post by: Roland on February 20, 2008, 04:13:56 AM
Quote from: MsCriseyde on February 19, 2008, 03:56:47 AM
Short English major answer: Because legends lose their mystique if they are straightforward.  [snow_wink]

Good point.