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Title: New Show Midnight and Mention of Dark Shadows.
Post by: loril54 on September 26, 2007, 02:20:26 PM
http://www.film.com/tv/story/thisbitesalookatcbsmoonlight/13982602/16591096

Mention of show Midnight. Mentions Dark Shadows. I know a mention was made of the show by MB I believe but couldn't find it.  First show Friday.

Title: Re: New Show Midnight and Mention of Dark Shadows.
Post by: Midnite on September 26, 2007, 04:44:56 PM
The older topic:

OT: New Vampire Series Coming This Fall on CBS

You'd not only have to include the older Calendar board to find it (though a topic on this board does link to the archived thread), you'd need to search for "Moonlight" and not "Midnight."  But thanks for the plug.  ;)

The article confirms my fears about the show.   :-   Thank you for the link.
Title: Re: New Show Midnight and Mention of Dark Shadows.
Post by: Gothick on September 26, 2007, 05:09:13 PM
Several people on the IMDB boards for this series are describing it as an out-and-out remake of Forever Knight.

It's actually on a channel that I receive so I may have a look to see just how awful it proves to be (Blood Ties certainly set an unusually low benchmark for awfulness in vampire series).

G.
Title: Re: New Show Midnight and Mention of Dark Shadows.
Post by: Nancy on September 26, 2007, 05:12:25 PM
I must have missed the funeral for "imagination" but surely one was held some time back.  They should take a lesson from Showtime's brilliant DEXTER if nothing else.

nancy
Title: Re: New Show Midnight and Mention of Dark Shadows.
Post by: BuzzH on September 26, 2007, 09:58:37 PM
I must have missed the funeral for "imagination" but surely one was held some time back.

Sadly, this could be said for our own Mr. Curtis, who repeatedly repeated himself when it came to DS!   ::)
Title: Re: New Show Midnight and Mention of Dark Shadows.
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 27, 2007, 04:51:04 PM
Sadly, DC repeated himself not just when it came to DS, not just in the horror genre, but when it came to too many things he did. There are quite a few topics on the forum that detail how DC lifted, often shot for shot, sequences out of previous projects and incorporated them into new ones.  [sad3]
Title: Re: New Show Midnight and Mention of Dark Shadows.
Post by: Nancy on September 27, 2007, 05:15:04 PM
I agree with you and Buzz on this.  At least DC and company (mostly his writers not so much DC) sought to create a new twist on the lifted material.  There are 36 basic dramatic plots as defined by George Polti in his landmark book on the subject.  There's almost always bound to be one of these plots used in any story but it's the original take on the basic plot that makes the material fresh.  I realize this isn't news to anyone here.   :o  Curtis did inject some freshness into his various takes on the horror genre (he didn't create Barnabas) throughout his career though his post-DS leading men were invariably dark and craggy-faced like Jonathan Frid.

Here are the 36 basic plots to a dramatic story:

This is condensed from Georges Polti's _The 36 Dramatic Plots_.

       Each short plot description starts with the title of the plot
       pattern. After a hyphen the main characters to be found in the
       plot are given, separated by commas.

       Supplication - Persecutor, Suppliant, a Power in Authority
       Deliverance - Unfortunates, Threatener, Rescuer
       Revenge - Avenger, Criminal
       Vengeance by Family upon Family - Avenging Kinsman, Guilty
          Kinsman, Relative
       Pursuit - Fugitive from Punishment, Pursuer
       Victim of Cruelty or Misfortune - Unfortunates, Master or Unlucky
          Person
       Disaster - Vanquished Power, Victorious Power or Messenger
       Revolt - Tyrant, Conspirator(s)
       Daring Enterprise - Bold Leader, Goal, Adversary
       Abduction - Abductor, Abducted, Guardian
       Enigma  - Interrogator, Seeker, Problem
       Obtaining - Two or more Opposing Parties, Object, maybe an
          Arbitrator
       Familial Hatred - Two Family Members who hate each other
       Familial Rivalry - Preferred Kinsman, Rejected Kinsman, Object
       Murderous Adultery - Two Adulterers, the Betrayed
       Madness - Madman, Victim
       Fatal Imprudence - Imprudent person, Victim o lost ect
       Involuntary Crimes of Love - Lover,eloveRevea
       Kinsman Kills Unrecognized Kinsman - Killer, Unrecognized Victim,
          Revealer
       Self Sacrifice for an Ideal - Hero, Ideal, Person or Thing
          Sacrificed
       Self Sacrifice for Kindred - Hero, Kinsman, Person or Thing
          Sacrificed
       All Sacrificed for Passion - Lover, Object of Passion, Person or
          Thing Sacrificed
       Sacrifice of Loved Ones - Hero, Beloved Victim, Need for
          Sacrifice
       Rivalry Between Superior and Inferior - Superior, Inferior,
          Object
       Adultery - Deceived Spouse, Two Adulterers
       Crimes of Love - Lover, Beloved, theme of Dissolution
       Discovery of Dishonor of a Loved One - Discoverer, Guilty One
       Obstacles to Love - Two Lovers, Obstacle
       An Enemy Loved - Beloved Enemy, Lover, Hater
       Ambition - An Ambitious Person, Coveted Thing, Adversary
       Conflict with a God - Mortal, Immortal
       Mistaken Jealousy - Jealous One, Object of Jealousy, Supposed
          Accomplice, Author of Mistake
       Faulty Judgement - Mistaken One, Victim of Mistake, Author of
          Mistake, Guilty Person
       Remorse - Culprit, Victim, Interrogator
       Recovery of a Lost One - Seeker, One Found
       Loss of Loved Ones - Kinsman Slain, Kinsman Witness, Executioner

You can see all of the above in evidence in all of the DS storylines.  Remember, confusion is not a dramatic plot against viewers. >:D

nancy

Sadly, this could be said for our own Mr. Curtis, who repeatedly repeated himself when it came to DS!   ::)
Title: Re: New Show Midnight and Mention of Dark Shadows.
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 28, 2007, 04:14:42 PM
Here's an interview on TVGuide.com with Moonlight star Alex O'Loughlin in which, among other things, he explains how he thinks his show differs from the shows it's being compared to: Interview with a Vampire: Inside CBS' Bloody-fun Moonlight (http://www.tvguide.com/news/070928-02). Also, it should be interesting to learn what the "rules" are that the show will be playing by - particularly because every new vampire venture seems to create its own.
Title: Re: New Show Midnight and Mention of Dark Shadows.
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on October 07, 2007, 04:17:38 PM
I just read on TVGuide.com that in its second week, and in spite of being opposite the season premiere of critics' darling Friday Night Lights, Moonlight easily won its time period. I've also read that CBS is pleased with the show's performance thus far. So, despite what some naysayers have said, it's looking like Moonlight might just be sticking around. And that can't be a bad thing so far as the vampire genre goes...
Title: Re: New Show Midnight and Mention of Dark Shadows.
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on October 23, 2007, 09:26:09 PM
It was bound to happen sooner or later - that is the linking of Moonlight to DS - but in, of all places, a review of Moonlight's compititon, Woman's Murder Club (http://www.buffalonews.com/entertainment/story/189229.html):

Quote
It’s up against “Moonlight,” the latest not-too-bad contribution to TV’s traditional passion for sexing up vampire stories a la “Dark Shadows,”
Title: Re: New Show Midnight and Mention of Dark Shadows.
Post by: Charles_Ellis on October 26, 2007, 01:52:55 AM
I just read today in the papers that Fox has canceled the yet-to-air New Amsterdam, which has already shot seven episodes.  Personally, I'm a bit glad as the show stole from Pete Hamill's novel Forever.  So, as one new show with an immortal character gains new life, one gets snuffed out!
Title: Re: New Show Midnight and Mention of Dark Shadows.
Post by: Nancy on October 26, 2007, 01:53:50 PM
Charles, I'll bet you could write one hell of a book on pop culture.  I'd buy it.  Your encylopedic knowledge never fails to impress me.    nancy

I just read today in the papers that Fox has canceled the yet-to-air New Amsterdam, which has already shot seven episodes.  Personally, I'm a bit glad as the show stole from Pete Hamill's novel Forever.  So, as one new show with an immortal character gains new life, one gets snuffed out!