DARK SHADOWS FORUMS
General Discussions => Current Talk Archive => Current Talk '24 I => Current Talk '07 I => Topic started by: rosebud cottage on March 30, 2007, 03:35:27 AM
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Have any of you guys ever wondered what qualified Maggie Evans to be a governess ? Was there any indication she had teaching experience before Elizabeth - out-of- blue - offered her the job ? I suppose Maggie could have been working on a teaching degree prior to her position at Collinwood or maybe did some subsitute teaching in the Collinsport school system. Otherwise I have always been baffled by Elizabeth suddenly offered Maggie the position. I know Liz wanted someone to watch out for the children at Collinwood when Liz was expecting to die, but couldn't Carolyn or Julia do that ?
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;D
Maggie's qualifications were simple:
like Vicki, she was a helpless damsel in distress!
David
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Good question.
There was never any indication that Maggie had any experience at all to teaching or working for a teaching degree prior to her hiring as the new governess at Collinwood.
[spoiler]Elizabeth wasn't thinking too clearly at the time, she was convinced she could "die" at any moment and be buried alive. She was in such a panic about the children being alone I think she just picked the first name out of her head.[/spoiler]
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When I wrote my where-are-they-now DS novel, set in 2000, while doing quick character background descriptions, I simply explained that Maggie, back in the sixties, had been attending a somewhat local community college while working as a waitress, trying to keep her father out of trouble, and had those early issues with Barnabas. All that, and still able to do term papers. As a matter of fact, I made it the same community college Stokes taught in. Sometimes you just have to fill in the gaps yourself.
Gerard
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One of those things I didn't really question when watching the show as a kid. However, when you think of it, she was probably as qualified to teach as some of the "home school teachers" of today. Maybe more so in some cases. ::)
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For me, it was one of those Ha-Ha moments on DS. Maggie had been a waitress in a coffee shop. There was no indication she'd had any college or teacher training. Still, it was a convenient way to fill the "Vicki" gap, so there she went, off to Collinwood, to become the victim-du-jour!
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Maybe she figured that if Maggie could handle the drunks at the Blue Whale, she could probably handle the children as well? But she was wrong - the drunks at the Blue Whale were a breeze compared to the little demon spaws at Collinwood ;D
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i think that she went to Bangor with Roger one day to get a Certificate of Governing. Although, I'm surprised that Elizabeth didn't take into consideration all the times Maggie was stolen away in the middle of the night and hidden in crypts, caskets, secret passages and basements for days on end. not to mention that screechy panicky voice she used to get all the time when something was happening to her.
I must say, though, that Maggie had a backbone when it came to the kids, especially david. she took no shit from him. but then again, he took none from her too and used to always mess with her head.
but seriously folks, there was a reason, i think it was because how maggie interacted with the children, especially david that elizabeth thought it would benefit all involved. i think that mags even tried to back out of it, and liz was adament.
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Guys, you forgot she was Channeling Rachaell Drummond a previous reincarnation. We just didn't know it yet. She got her training at Trask's school. ;) ;D :-X
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Gerard, you just gotta publish those novels! Anyway, great theory. We need to remember the characters were still living their lives when they were not onscreen.
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What was on Maggie's resume?
"available immediately"
She was no more qualified to be governess, apparently, than Daphne. :-
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But to Daphne's credit, she did work at the newspaper shop that housed many back issues of the "Collinsport Star", so what else was she to do there all day but read? I'd say she was pretty knowledgeable about the history, or whatever history was written in that paper. As we all know, the history that's written in Collinsport isn't exactly bursting with truth.
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Guys, you forgot she was Channeling Rachaell Drummond a previous reincarnation. We just didn't know it yet. She got her training at Trask's school. ;) ;D :-X
Excellent deduction, Lori! I love it. And once again another mystery is solved. [wink2]
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Maybe she figured that if Maggie could handle the drunks at the Blue Whale, she could probably handle the children as well? But she was wrong - the drunks at the Blue Whale were a breeze compared to the little demon spaws at Collinwood ;D
LOL, so true, so true.
In defense of the children, though, they only did what Quentin ordered them to do. And of the two children, I think David was the worse. [spoiler]He sought to discredit Maggie in the eyes of Aunt Elizabeth by putting in the tailors' dummy, Mr. Juggins, in the storage room, thus making Elizabeth believe that was what Maggie saw and not some strange, evil-looking guy who was hanging around there. Plus he tore out a page of the ledger, and I can only assume this but it must have happened this way, and handed it to Quentin to put on the desk in the drawing room, making Barnabas look like an absolute heel accusing an "innocent" boy like David in Roger's eyes.[/spoiler]
But David, I also believe, was probably more terrified of Quentin. I know Amy was scared of him, but as Julia had once said later on, it was really David Quentin wanted to control because of [spoiler]the boy's resemblance to Quentin's beloved nephew Jamison.[/spoiler]
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I know that it's easy for one mention about the show to make us think of another, like the jump from Maggie's handling of the children to the children themselves, but let's please try to keep the topic in mind. Thanks! :)
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i don't believe maggie had the "qualifications" to be a governess so much as that the writers were in a pinch.
with vicki gone they had a vital role to fill...the-helpless-ingenue-victim-in-residence...and kathryn leigh scott as maggie fit the bill perfectly.
i think nancy barrett's carolyn was too strong willed and petulant to fill this role.that's why the type of "take-the-key-and-lock-her-up" storyline usually went to one of the other actresses
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i think nancy barrett's carolyn was too strong willed and petulant to fill this role.that's why the type of "take-the-key-and-lock-her-up" storyline usually went to one of the other actresses
You've got that right. If Barnabas had kidnapped Carolyn, and like Maggie her true persona had reasserted herself, that storyline wouldn't have even lasted another week before Carolyn would have ripped his head off. ;D And that would have been the end of Barn forever. ;)
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Maggie's qualifications: good healthy screams; looks groovy in the latest Governess Chic fashions, vintage '69.
It would have made some sense if Liz had hired Maggie to do DAYCARE for the children, on the presumption that since Maggie had been close to Vicki, Maggie's presence in the house would help ease the trauma of Vicki's disappearance for the kids. There could have been dialogue along the lines of "I'll ask Maggie if she'd like to come live at Collinwood to help watch the children while I look for a teacher to provide their lessons." Of course, this would have required hiring another actress to play the teacher, but she could have appeared even more infrequently than Mrs Johnson did...
I quite like the notion of Julia as the Governess. (*starts pondering scenarios*)
G.
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After all, hadn't Julia been a schoolteacher in NIGHT OF THE IGUANA - so there's your experience!
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MAGGIE EVANS
Resume
Collinsport Diner, 1965-1967
Reference: Susie, phone 555-6225 (evenings only)
Playboy Bunny, 1964-1965
New York, NY
Reference: H. Hefner, Chicago, Ill. (by mail only please)
Collinsport Community College
Majors: Basket weaving and Child Psychology
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What was on Maggie's resume? Probably coffee rings. ;D
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What was on Maggie's resume? Probably coffee rings. ;D
Thanks...I needed that.
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Thanks...I needed that.
Thanks to your avatar, there is now coffee all over my monitor. [a1f5]
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Hey, Dom, how does one increase the size of your Avatar so we can read the resume?
Gerard
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It's a generic resume. The coffee rings are meant to be the focal point.
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Oh, I see it, Dom! Duh!
Gerard
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I love the Corgi's in front of Collinwood!
Maggie was probably one of the few people who had the nerve to actually walk through the front door of Collinwood! Her heart was always in the right place as far as the children went if not her head.
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There was yet another vital item that qualified Maggie to be governess at Collinwood--- that long dark hair. She would NOT have gotten so far if she'd stuck with that sassy, short, blond Dynel wig.
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She could scream well and bleed even better.