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Title: Julia's Sedative's In 1995 etc.
Post by: Taeylor Collins on March 22, 2007, 09:51:58 PM
Does anyone have any idea where Julia got her sedatives in 1995?

Also I just love 1995, it's probably my favorite storyline of them all.  Very innovative, the sets looked great, and the acting superb.  Plus it was Jon and Grayson the whole two weeks...and I loved that.  Some funny things I have noticed though, didn't anyone think they were dressed strange?  LOL or for that matter..they wore the same outfit day in day out, did they even shower?   I noticed in the ep when they return to 1970 they didn't even bother to change clothes and just started there research.  Talk about dedication!! :)

For those who saw 1995 back in 1970, what did you think about it?  It had to seem like such a foreign time that was worlds away.....
Title: Re: Julia's Sedative's In 1995 etc.
Post by: Gerard on March 23, 2007, 01:18:25 AM
She probably had a constant supply in her purse (without which she would never travel, just like Queen Elizabeth II).  They shared her pocketbook along with a plastic rain bonnet, two half-sticks of Wrigley's Spearmint gum. some Fenamints (some of which escaped the container and are rolling around on the bottom of her bag), two pens (one hasn't worked in years), a small, spiral notebook, her wallet, a pair of gloves, keys, a little tin of Bayer, and bunched-up kleenex.

Gerard
Title: Re: Julia's Sedative's In 1995 etc.
Post by: Elmont on March 23, 2007, 03:36:36 AM
Gerard, you just described the inside of my mothers purse in 1970. What was I doing in my mothers purse??? I was a bad kid...
Title: Re: Julia's Sedative's In 1995 etc.
Post by: Elmont on March 23, 2007, 04:03:45 AM
For those who saw 1995 back in 1970, what did you think about it?  It had to seem like such a foreign time that was worlds away.....

It's a few years back but I don't remember thinking that 95 was much different from 1970. I mean they didn't use cell phones or computers at Collinwood in 95.
Title: Re: Julia's Sedative's In 1995 etc.
Post by: Brandon Collins on March 23, 2007, 04:09:32 AM
Just think, though, if the prop masters had though innovatively enough to create a cardboard box that looked like a desktop computer, or a small calculator that turned into a cellphone......they would've been WAAAYYY ahead of their time.

The thing that nixed the 1995 thing for me, was the clothing. I wish they had've been a little more imaginative with the futuristic garb, instead of just throwing 70s stuff on their people. I loved 95, don't get me wrong, but watching it through this past time, that's what stuck out most for me.
Title: Re: Julia's Sedative's In 1995 etc.
Post by: Midnite on March 23, 2007, 04:51:55 AM
The thing that nixed the 1995 thing for me, was the clothing. I wish they had've been a little more imaginative with the futuristic garb, instead of just throwing 70s stuff on their people. I loved 95, don't get me wrong, but watching it through this past time, that's what stuck out most for me.

How about the Professor's transistor radio style hearing aid?  If only someone had considered that, hey, maybe they'll shrink and become easier to wear in another 25 years.
Title: Re: Julia's Sedative's In 1995 etc.
Post by: MsCriseyde on March 23, 2007, 04:58:58 AM
The thing that nixed the 1995 thing for me, was the clothing. I wish they had've been a little more imaginative with the futuristic garb, instead of just throwing 70s stuff on their people. I loved 95, don't get me wrong, but watching it through this past time, that's what stuck out most for me.
Yeah, too bad they didn't go for that spandex look for future fashion that they had in the Buck Rogers television series.  ;D
Title: Re: Julia's Sedative's In 1995 etc.
Post by: Josette on March 23, 2007, 07:42:27 AM
1995?  How did she get drugs in 1897 and 1840?
Title: Re: Julia's Sedative's In 1995 etc.
Post by: Gerard on March 23, 2007, 02:31:23 PM
While it would've been neat if the writers, costumers and set designers did try to come up with some concepts about how things would've looked in 1995 from their 1970 perspective, in reality I opine it might've been a disaster.  I'm picturing everyone walking around looking like extras from The Jetsons.  Imagine them digging around in old storage boxes and pulling out clothing and props left over from Tom Corbett, Space Cadet.  Egads.

Gerard
Title: Re: Julia's Sedative's In 1995 etc.
Post by: Raineypark on March 23, 2007, 10:29:23 PM
"The Twilight Zone" had been doing futuristic costumes for years by this time......it really would not have taken much effort to dream up some concept of "1995" costumes.  It was just another of those things they couldn't be bothered trying to do on their limited budget.
Title: Re: Julia's Sedative's In 1995 etc.
Post by: MagnusTrask on March 23, 2007, 10:43:39 PM
It's a few years back but I don't remember thinking that 95 was much different from 1970. I mean they didn't use cell phones or computers at Collinwood in 95.

No, I don't remember the ghost of Gerard/Judah using a cell phone once.

We didn't get "futuristic" clothes in 1995, so we would all be laying into them now for doing that, if they had.    They went conservative, which was right.   I'd never have expected the huge changes in the culture in 1970 to slow down to a crawl and even reverse themselves in some cases, but they did.  We still have pretty traditional looking suits.

The whole town seems sort of traumatized, and having it as an isolated backwater cut off from changes in the world seems appropriate.   The new time line probably has a livelier and trendier 1995 Collinsport, for better and worse.
Title: Re: Julia's Sedative's In 1995 etc.
Post by: Gerard on March 23, 2007, 10:56:41 PM
So true about some communities being a bit behind in things.  In the backwater town I live in, we got our first Starbucks just a month ago, and until recently, out only "ethnic" restaurant was Taco Bell - kid you not.  The standing joke around here is that we're finally entering the eighties.

Gerard
Title: Re: Julia's Sedative's In 1995 etc.
Post by: MagnusTrask on March 24, 2007, 12:23:26 AM
Parachute pants in about five years, Gerard, stay tuned for that...
Title: Re: Julia's Sedative's In 1995 etc.
Post by: Gerard on March 24, 2007, 01:00:02 AM
We still have people walking around using bubble umbrellas, Magnus!

Gerard
Title: Re: Julia's Sedative's In 1995 etc.
Post by: Elmont on March 24, 2007, 02:49:43 AM
 Hey don't laugh guys but I have a suit that I bought from Robert Halls in 1976 in my closet. And it's still in style.
Title: Re: Julia's Sedative's In 1995 etc.
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on March 24, 2007, 03:34:06 AM
a suit that I bought from Robert Halls in 1976

Whoa - Robert Halls! Talk about a blast from the past. I'd forgotten that place even existed!  :D
Title: Re: Julia's Sedative's In 1995 etc.
Post by: Gerard on March 24, 2007, 04:15:55 AM
I got my high school graduation suit from Robert Halls!

Gerard
Title: Re: Julia's Sedative's In 1995 etc.
Post by: michael c on March 24, 2007, 08:20:44 PM
the opening shot of collinwood in ruins gave me goosebumps!

besides julia's sedatives barnabas makes a pretty bold assumption in that his coffin will still be ready and waiting for him at the old house(or was it the mausoleum?).in that twenty five year period no one ever stumbled across it?might the old house have not been demolished even?

in general traditional men's suiting doesn't "date" in the same way that women's clothing styles do.so i don't think barnabas would have looked all that out of the ordinary in 1995.julia much more so.little did our nattily attired time travelers know that by 1995 most people ran around in sneakers and sweat pants. ::)

i think they tried to solve the futuristic fashion bug-a-boo by making the characters look insane.they didn't have to worry about how carolyn and mrs.johnson looked if instead of trying to predict what would be "fashionable" in the future they just made them look nuts.since they both existed their own world since the disaster that supposedly struck the family in 1970 it's not inconceivable that shopping for new things was not a priority and they just wore increasingly tatty remnants of their old cloths.
Title: Re: Julia's Sedative's In 1995 etc.
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on March 24, 2007, 09:53:15 PM
little did our nattily attired time travelers know that by 1995 most people ran around in sneakers and sweat pants.

The villagers most probably would - but not the proper members of the Collins family. Perish the thought!!   :o  Even if, say, Roger had still been living in the ruins of Collinwood, he would have been wearing a suit/tie - or at the very least a sport coat/ascot. Even amongst the ruins of the ancestral home, a Collins (unless insane, then there's a bit of leeway  ;)) as well as any permanent boarders MUST be well groomed and nattily attired AT ALL TIMES. It's an irrevocable edict. There's no two ways about it!  ;D
Title: Re: Julia's Sedative's In 1995 etc.
Post by: MagnusTrask on March 25, 2007, 01:00:15 AM
I like the idea of a very proper and insane Roger, living camped out in the Drawing Room, with a broken empty brandy snifter always in his hand, always dressed for dinner, but with no pants.    Maybe a tutu.   No, that's been done to death.
Title: Re: Julia's Sedative's In 1995 etc.
Post by: Sunny_Collins on March 25, 2007, 05:52:29 PM
besides julia's sedatives barnabas makes a pretty bold assumption in that his coffin will still be ready and waiting for him at the old house(or was it the mausoleum?).in that twenty five year period no one ever stumbled across it?might the old house have not been demolished even?

My thoughts exactly. Why did he naturally assume it would be there? Just think what a dilemma it would have been if his coffin wasn't anywhere to be found.

[spoiler]Carolyn tells Julia and Barnabas the family all went away and that they would come back soon, but I don't believe it was ever mentioned where exactly the family disappeared to. Perhaps Gerard killed them somehow?[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Julia's Sedative's In 1995 etc.
Post by: Midnite on March 25, 2007, 08:03:00 PM
[spoiler]Carolyn tells Julia and Barnabas the family all went away and that they would come back soon, but I don't believe it was ever mentioned where exactly the family disappeared to. Perhaps Gerard killed them somehow?[/spoiler]

[spoiler]We can presume that he was responsible.  The family disappeared without a trace on the same night that Carolyn and Quentin went mad, and she most likely became the sole surviving witness to what occurred yet her mental status was too far gone to face up to what really happened so she chose to believe that they're away, and Mrs. Johnson must've bought into that too.  Carolyn did mention looking for her mother's grave in what was possibly a fleeting moment of clarity (what a pity that Julia didn't have her medallion), and I'm sure that fear of reprisal from Gerard also played a part.  Stokes told Barnabas and Julia that he wouldn't rule out the possibility that their bodies are still somewhere in the house (eek!).  We saw David's headstone, but based on what Stokes revealed about that night, I don't know if we can be sure that he's actually buried there.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Julia's Sedative's In 1995 etc.
Post by: loril54 on March 25, 2007, 10:37:36 PM
Couldn't have Barnabas just gone into the Mausoleum and closed the door. His suit might not have looked so nice. Julia took his suit to the dry cleaner. 24 hour martenizing, by the way, why didn't Barnabas never looked to wrinkled? ^-^ ;) ;)

They could have looked in Julia Room, why would anyone want the madalion, it wasn't pretty.
Title: Re: Julia's Sedatives In 1995 etc.
Post by: MagnusTrask on March 26, 2007, 02:57:25 AM
Some died in 1970, we know that, from the conversation in the Old House where BC and Stokes? talked about the funerals, for ECS and I forget who else.
Title: Re: Julia's Sedatives In 1995 etc.
Post by: Midnite on March 26, 2007, 04:21:24 AM
Some died in 1970, we know that, from the conversation in the Old House where BC and Stokes? talked about the funerals, for ECS and I forget who else.

Yes, you mean this conversation that took place after Barnabas and Julia saw the events play out, and just before he used the I-Ching wands:
Robservations ... -- 1113

Old House, 1970 - Barnabas sits before the fire, staring despondently into the flames.  Eliot Stokes joins him--Barnabas, are you feeling any better?  No, he replies, his hands crawling over each other before he clasps them in an almost-prayerful attitude.  I'm sorry, says Stokes, I had hoped you'd be able to attend the funeral this afternoon.  I couldn't even do that, says Barn.  ... I knew I shouldn't have gone to Europe, says Stokes, but I thought I had time to bring back the one man who could exorcise Gerard--I thought I had time--it's all I could hear this afternoon as I listened to the minister reading the psalms over those caskets--Elizabeth, David, Daphne, Carrie--all gone.  Barnabas laces his fingers together--I'll never forget that night, he says, those creatures Gerard summoned from the grave stopped me from following Julia--I'm going to find her, he vows--...