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Title: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Alondra on February 11, 2007, 08:35:37 PM
Ok here is a mystery that has been bugging me since I got very interested in the 1970 parallel time storyline. I want to know what exactly is the deal with Dameon Edwards. This is during the time Jonathan Frid and the other major actors are filming HODS and David Selby, Lara Parker, Chris Pennock and a few others are picking up the slack. They introduce this ghost Dameon Edwards. [spoiler]First he appears to Quentin and Amy, and we learn that he died about a year ago. It appears he was a friend of Quentin's. There is some kind of mystery surrounding his death. When Trask the butler learns that he's been seen, he freaks and runs to Bruno who first dismisses this as nothing, then sees evidence of Dameon's presence for himself. Later when Angelique has replaced Alexis, she puts Dameon's ghost to rest with some ceremony. He was walled up in an alcove downstairs in the basement. Are we to believe that Angelique, Trask and Bruno murdered him for some reason? I think that's what they're getting at but why? Was he one of Angelique's lovers of which there were many?[/spoiler] I think this whole Dameon thing was just a filler but nevertheless I want to know what the story is.

Alondra
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Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: MagnusTrask on February 11, 2007, 08:59:44 PM
I finally followed it all one time, but promptly forgot it all.   He's just that ghost in the leisure suit to me.   
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: dom on February 11, 2007, 09:09:17 PM
I hope someone remembers because now I am curious as hell. Not only do I not remember, I always confuse DE with Claude North & Randell Drew, in my mind. I've only seen the complete series once - in the 90s.
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Alondra on February 11, 2007, 09:24:28 PM
I hope someone remembers because now I am curious as hell. Not only do I not remember, I always confuse DE with Claude North & Randell Drew, in my mind. I've only seen the complete series once - in the 90s.

Claude North is in this same storyline (PT 1970) but comes later on. He is the [spoiler]nit who sold his girlfriend Roxanne to Stokes to be the life force for his experiment. So he is paid for having her lay underneath a blanket for months and months so Angelique can "live." Later he wants her back, oh yeah sure, like I'd go back with a man who sold me to someone to work some nit experiment? I think not.[/spoiler]

Randall Drew was [spoiler]Roxanne and Samantha's brother in the 1840 storyline. He's the one who forced Roxanne to face daylight and be destroyed. I thought he was rather a bore.[/spoiler]

Alondra
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: IluvBarnabas on February 11, 2007, 09:34:19 PM
I agree, I found Randall dull, boring and wooden as well, and Sky Rumson too. Yecch!!!
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: dom on February 11, 2007, 09:34:58 PM
Thanks.

Who's the guy/ghost that appears and can't talk and makes funny faces?
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 11, 2007, 09:39:00 PM
I think you're thinking of Tate's creation, dom. He wasn't a ghost - he was flesh and blood.  :)


There's a topic around here somewhere that discusses the whole Dameon issue. I'll try to track it down when I get a chance...
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: MsCriseyde on February 11, 2007, 09:47:33 PM
Who's the guy/ghost that appears and can't talk and makes funny faces?
That description covers Gerard, whose ghost, thanks to his facial expressions and the lighting, bears a striking resemblance to an Oompa-Loompa.  ;D But I doubt that's who you meant.
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: dom on February 11, 2007, 09:49:43 PM
Geez.  ::)  I'd better go to Amazon.com and order the DS for Dummies book, lol.
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Gerard on February 11, 2007, 10:08:41 PM
I always wondered about that Daemon Edwards thing, too.  First, all this build up, and then nothing.  I wonder if it was suppose to be some pivotal plot point, but as the writers went on, fleshing things out - well, actually stalling until the other regular cast members returned - they decided to take things in a different direction and just forgot about what they were going to do with him.

Gerard
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Alondra on February 11, 2007, 10:18:21 PM
I always wondered about that Daemon Edwards thing, too.  First, all this build up, and then nothing.  I wonder if it was suppose to be some pivotal plot point, but as the writers went on, fleshing things out - well, actually stalling until the other regular cast members returned - they decided to take things in a different direction and just forgot about what they were going to do with him.

At least they did have closure on this though, when [spoiler]Angelique did some spell to put him back in his walled up grave so he wouldn't get back out again. But what I want to know is the backstory which I think is never given, why did she, Bruno and Trask murder him in the first place?[/spoiler]

Alondra
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Brandon Collins on February 11, 2007, 10:26:07 PM
Methinks that since at the end of 1970PT Quentin reveals that he [spoiler]never loved Angelique in the first place, but was trapped in the relationship by her[/spoiler] that Dameon Edwards was an affair that Angelique had, one of her many apparently. Since Dameon was Quentin's best friend, it's my guess that he knew FOR SURE that he and Angelique were fooling around, while with all the others he probably only had a suspicion and not hard evidence, i.e. seeing them together, or being told directly from the horses mouth. So, in order to keep Quentin quiet and to keep him with her, Angelique had Bruno and Trask kill Edwards so that she would just deny the story and Quentin couldn't file for divorce because he wouldn't be able to guilt Dameon into admitting what had happened.

This is all just pure speculation on my part.
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Alondra on February 11, 2007, 10:45:40 PM
Methinks that since at the end of 1970PT Quentin reveals that he [spoiler]never loved Angelique in the first place, but was trapped in the relationship by her[/spoiler] that Dameon Edwards was an affair that Angelique had, one of her many apparently. Since Dameon was Quentin's best friend, it's my guess that he knew FOR SURE that he and Angelique were fooling around, while with all the others he probably only had a suspicion and not hard evidence, i.e. seeing them together, or being told directly from the horses mouth. So, in order to keep Quentin quiet and to keep him with her, Angelique had Bruno and Trask kill Edwards so that she would just deny the story and Quentin couldn't file for divorce because he wouldn't be able to guilt Dameon into admitting what had happened.

This is all just pure speculation on my part.

One must wonder just how many affairs that woman had. I never could understand that. She was married to Quentin and [spoiler]must've had affairs with just about every man in town. What for? In one place she said something I can't forget. She was trying to win Quentin back yet at the beginning she had him and didn't appreciate him enough to stay faithful to him. She said "Every other man was so easy." Yeah right. She only had to bat those pretty blue eyes and they fell into her bed with remarkable ease. We know she was intimate with at least Bruno and Will Loomis. I speculate that she also had Trask and Dameon, possibly Chris. I think she did not have Cyrus, but I wouldn't rule it out. I think she spurned Roger though he was definitely interested in her. My pure speculation guess as to why all the affairs is because they gave her some kind of power over the men.

At the end when Quentin FINALLY admitted to Maggie that he had hated Angelique, (which he should have done during their courtship and spared her a lot of grief) he said he begged for his freedom but she refused, saying she'd create a scandal. Oh big deal. That family always lived in fear of scandal yet the townspeople talked about them anyway. Might as well give them something to talk about and get your freedom. I think a better reason to stay with her would be that his son loved her and it would upset him if Quentin divorced her.[/spoiler]

Alondra
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 11, 2007, 10:48:49 PM
[spoiler]But what I want to know is the backstory which I think is never given, why did she, Bruno and Trask murder him in the first place?[/spoiler]
Methinks that since at the end of 1970PT Quentin reveals that he [spoiler]never loved Angelique in the first place, but was trapped in the relationship by her[/spoiler] that Dameon Edwards was an affair that Angelique had, one of her many apparently. ... This is all just pure speculation on my part.

Actually, it's more than just speculation that Dameon and Ang had had an affair. Ang admits as much in Ep #1006 and it's explained that [spoiler]she got Trask and Bruno to take care of him for her because he was becoming too persistent in his, uh, affections.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Brandon Collins on February 12, 2007, 05:34:48 AM
Well there you go. That explains it all right there. It's a good thing that someone has such complete knowledge of the series. lol. I've seen it a number of times but I still don't remember half the things that others do. :D Thanks MB for clearing it up.
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Alondra on February 12, 2007, 05:47:15 AM
Actually, it's more than just speculation that Dameon and Ang had had an affair. Ang admits as much in Ep #1006 and it's explained that [spoiler]she got Trask and Bruno to take care of him for her because he was becoming too persistent in his, uh, affections.[/spoiler]

Well I had to go plug in my DVD and watch this and sure enough! I think part of the reason this may have got by me is that this is one of the kinescope episodes and along with being a tad bit blurry it's also a bit fuzzy sounding. I listened to it more carefully. Poor Dameon. Thanks MB.

Alondra
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 12, 2007, 06:32:41 AM
Well I had to go plug in my DVD and watch this and sure enough!

Well, I don't make these things up.  [wink2]

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Thanks MB.

You're welcome.  :)
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: michael c on February 13, 2007, 02:02:25 AM
even when i was watching the dameon edwards subplot i felt that it was just mid-storyline filler while most of the "majors" were doing the movie.

it didn't interest me in the least and i forgot it as soon as it was over.as i recall it didn't really effect the parallel-time storyline as a whole.

even now i'm drawing a complete blank on the details.
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Alondra on February 13, 2007, 02:40:33 AM
even now i'm drawing a complete blank on the details.

Read my first post about this, I did remember most of it and MB supplied the detail I was missing about the motive for the murder. I agree it was a rather boring little subplot, and had nothing much to do with the overall story.

Alondra
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Gothick on February 13, 2007, 07:54:45 PM
I thought there were a couple of amusing scenes in Dameon's storyette.  The idea of someone roaming the halls of Collinwood for all eternity trapped in an Ohrbach's leisure suit is, in and of itself, pretty damn funny.  I also found it amusing that Trask and Bruno basically had a meltdown once they learned Dameon had returned.

I recall that one of those episodes, a black and white filmed kinescope, was missing its soundtrack.  Does anybody know whether MPI was able to restore the sound on the DVD release of that show?

cheers, G.
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: MsCriseyde on February 13, 2007, 08:13:59 PM
The idea of someone roaming the halls of Collinwood for all eternity trapped in an Ohrbach's leisure suit is, in and of itself, pretty damn funny.
[stfl]
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: rosebud cottage on February 13, 2007, 10:05:03 PM
Wasn't part of the outfit orange?    :P
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 13, 2007, 10:17:56 PM
It seems more of a yellow - or perhaps a yellow-orange.

(http://www.dsboards.com/eventimages/0416ds_8.jpg)
Either way, it's classic '70s!  :D
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Raineypark on February 13, 2007, 10:33:14 PM
It seems more of a yellow - or perhaps a yellow-orange.

Either way, it's classic '70s!  :D

On MY computer it's down-right SHRIEKING yellow...... :o
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Brandon Collins on February 14, 2007, 05:28:06 AM
Oh yea, it's most definitely yellow. Now, let's have his ghost pop up in a remake of DS to be the butt of all the jokes. I can just hear it now:

Townsperson: Oh, you're goin' ta Collinwood? Ain't that the place with the funny lookin' ghost strollin' around in the yella leisure suit?
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Gerard on February 14, 2007, 12:39:40 PM
Does polyester exist in the afterlife?

Gerard
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Patti Feinberg on February 17, 2007, 01:30:01 AM
I had totally forgotten all about this storyline.

Thanks for the laughs!!

Patti
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: MagnusTrask on February 17, 2007, 02:41:35 AM
It was a color and material not found in nature.    Two or three years before the leisure suit fad erupted though for what it's worth.    Not something one should be proud to be on the cusp of, however.

There was a cool, underground side to the 70s, the early 70s anyway.  This represented the buffoonish, mainstream 70s.
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: IluvBarnabas on February 17, 2007, 02:58:34 AM
All I can say is thank God the 70's are over! [gring]
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Raineypark on February 17, 2007, 03:01:09 AM
The early 70's were my college years.....and I'd go back for a visit in a heartbeat. ;)

Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 17, 2007, 03:13:55 AM
The early 70's were my college years.....and I'd go back for a visit in a heartbeat. ;)

As would I. I'd throw in the '80s as well (my wildest decade in more ways than one  [lghy]). The '90s, though, were mostly all work and not so much play - but I wouldn't mind going back to my first few years on the Internet knowing what I know now. For one, I'd make sure the eventual rise of Internet Explorer as the dominant browser would never turn out the way it did.  [Blow_Up_IE]   [b003]
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: MagnusTrask on February 17, 2007, 07:58:25 AM
Things started falling apart midway through the 70s I think, and just kept going downhill.     The late 70s were a pointless time to be in college (of course I weas at a pointless college too), but the early 70s would have been something very different.    
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Gerard on February 17, 2007, 03:32:40 PM
If there ever is another DS revival, they could do a storyline where the heroes have to go back in time to the seventies.  The plot can start in present time with Collinwood being haunted by the melody of "Precious and Few."  Now that would drive everyone out of the Great House faster than Quentin's ghost.

Gerard
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Lydia on February 17, 2007, 03:44:24 PM
I'd make sure the eventual rise of Internet Explorer as the dominant browser would never turn out the way it did.
And what method would you use?  I Ching?  Voodoo?  Black mass?
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: MagnusTrask on February 17, 2007, 06:31:21 PM
If there ever is another DS revival, they could do a storyline where the heroes have to go back in time to the seventies.  The plot can start in present time with Collinwood being haunted by the melody of "Precious and Few."  Now that would drive everyone out of the Great House faster than Quentin's ghost.

How anyone living in this decade would think time travel was needed to find terrible music is beyond me.     I think the same scenario would make far more sense in reverse.
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: JVjr on February 18, 2007, 04:33:37 AM
I think Damian Edwards was a guest at Collinwood, who [spoiler]had a love interest in Angelique as well as others, and was murdered by Angelique.[/spoiler] I guess they just threw his ghost in there to fill up time until the HODS actors came back. JVjr
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Gerard on February 18, 2007, 05:10:15 AM
How anyone living in this decade would think time travel was needed to find terrible music is beyond me.     I think the same scenario would make far more sense in reverse.

I think they would go back in time in order to answer the question on everyone's mind:  Did we really dress like that?

Gerard
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on February 18, 2007, 05:29:32 AM
Pictures exist - no one has to go back in time for proof of that.  ;D
Title: Re: Dameon Edwards
Post by: MagnusTrask on February 18, 2007, 07:49:18 AM
I think they would go back in time in order to answer the question on everyone's mind:  Did we really dress like that?

People with sense and individuality usually looked fine to great.    Mindless trend-followers back then looked bad, because the trends were more conspicuous.     In a sense, the late 60s/early 70s had the best and worst of everything, which I prefer to the universal blandness of now.