DARK SHADOWS FORUMS
General Discussions => Current Talk Archive => Current Talk '25 I => Current Talk '07 I => Topic started by: loril54 on January 26, 2007, 05:21:17 PM
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I always thought that sometimes actors where on so much (Frid, Hall, Selby) they are bound to make mistakes, but they were troopers they just kept going. Also the special effects were they sometimes to complicated. Your thoughts.
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The actors had very little rehearsal time, and had to learn their scripts over night.
There were no retakes, unlike current soaps.
Under such harsh working conditions, they actually did pretty good, I think!
Even Olivier & Brando flubbed lines on set.
In fact, at a fest 10 years ago, they ran out takes from the '91 DS.
Jean Simmons, an Oscar winner who worked with Brando & Olivier both, flubbed a line, excused herself, and started over.
If the '66~'71 cast had been allowed Simmons' luxury, we would not have a DS blooper reel to laugh at today.
Just my 2 cents........
David
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I agree, David. These actors were under tremendous time constraints and pressure to virtually learn a play a day. I agree they did very well, given those conditions. Too, as you pointed out, Dan Curtis wasn't one to do retakes -- too expensive! If something went awry, well, it was there for perpetuity, much to the delight of us fans!
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I think there's something to Nelson's statement. I mean the frequency of some actors appearances, especially those like Hall, Selby, and Frid, had to have something to do with their flubbed lines. I mean, after four days worth of scripts, the fifth day could have all sorts of problems--Monday's incestors resurface again to find that their in the same sentence as Laura's supposed death in 1785 instead of whatever it was before, and then Barnabas calls Julia by every woman's name in the book before figuring out what her name is. I mean, after all those pages, words, letter, hours, I wouldn't be in the right frame of mind to deliver my lines correctly either. That's why I write the lines, and not read them. :D
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Barnabas calls Julia by every woman's name in the book before figuring out what her name is.
Oh hell, my mom, who has six kids, has been calling all of us by our siblings names for years! ;)
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I know what you mean, Buzz. I've learned to answer to practically everything while at my grandmothers house. She usually runs through two or three names before she realizes who I actually am. But I know when she's talking to me anyway. :D
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My mother had a great system for this: Everyone was "what's-his-name!" LOL!
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Speaking of frogetting names, MY mother used to forget my Birthday. But so does my brother.
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I've been watching ONE LIFE TO LIVE since 1992....and even that show--in 2007--with all the modern editing and such, often has a line blooper, where the actor goes up or catches him/her-self and corrects a mistake. It even happens in movies...Check out THE WIZARD OF OZ, when our 4 friends are in the Witches castle and the Lion has a blooper that was included in the final cuit.
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I find those "bloopers" in the lines in the conversations more real... as everyone has already pointed out, we do it all the time in real life, in everyday speech, so having it on the show makes it feel more realistic. I know the actors don't feel that way; a flown line is a flown line and an error.
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Me too, Jackie. I mean, I see them as mess-ups today but way back when I used to think they were intentional bloopers for realism (the verbal ones anyway, well, and the fly too, lol).
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Me too, Jackie. I mean, I see them as mess-ups today but way back when I used to think they were intentional bloopers for realism (the verbal ones anyway, well, and the fly too, lol).
But the fly was a star, it had it's own movie. Can you imagine the stage hands running around with swatters. ;D
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Flubs, bloopers and inconsistencies still do appear, sometimes quite often but with more subtlety, in motion pictures today. In Steven Spielberg's version of "War of the Worlds," all electronic eqiupment within Bayonne, NJ, where the invaders first land, were suppose to be knocked out. Yet, we see a man videotaping the war tripod. Woops!
In Brian DePalma's version of "Carrie," the story was set in Maine, and yet we see palm trees (shades of '91's DS?). In the final scene, where Amy Irving is slowly walking towards the ruins of Carrie's house, in order to get the flowing effect, it was filmed with Miss Irving walking backward, and then the shot was played backward so she appeared to be moving forward. Unfortunately, someone missed a car in the distance which passed through the scene - it's driving backwards while we watch.
Gerard
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In the final scene, where Amy Irving is slowly walking towards the ruins of Carrie's house, in order to get the flowing effect, it was filmed with Miss Irving walking backward, and then the shot was played backward so she appeared to be moving forward. Unfortunately, someone missed a car in the distance which passed through the scene - it's driving backwards while we watch.
Now I gotta rent Carrie to see this! ;)
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Yes, bloopers and flubs still do exist today, but they are in large part to editing mistakes. If you watch a movie enough times and get to know it like the back of your hand, they are quite easy to spot. One I just noticed a couple months ago was from the movie "You've Got Mail". It's one of my favorite movies, and the scene where Tom Hanks and the guy who plays his father (Dabney something) are in the boat and Tom is making martinis, we cut to him and watch as he puts one olive in the glass, cut away to the dad, then go back to Tom to watch as he puts TWO olives in the glass, which has NO olives now. So, there should be THREE in total, but there isn't. Editing mistake from a scene that was reshot a number of times I'm sure.