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Title: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: IluvBarnabas on October 27, 2006, 04:25:41 AM
My choice would be [spoiler]Vicki's. We learned in the Leviathan story she got killed by Jeb[/spoiler] but to me that was just a stupid and unnecessary plot twist to throw in there. I still refuse to believe it.

I also would have [spoiler]let Beth live, with or without Quentin. She seemed doomed to die even with history changed, which I think is sad because I really liked her and believed she really did love Quentin with all her heart and soul.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Brandon Collins on October 27, 2006, 04:54:02 AM
I totally agree with your first choice IluvBarnabas. That was COMPLETLEY unnecessary, especially since they didn't even have the decency to take us back in time to witness it. How rude!

I think I would've also changed the fate of Rachel Drummond. Screw you Dirk! Rachel was great! She had hutzpah!  [female_skull]
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: DSFan008 on October 27, 2006, 06:04:05 AM
i;d change Vicki's fate and the fate of Amanda Harris/olivia Corey.

Also i'd fix Joe and Maggie's fates
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Janet the Wicked on October 27, 2006, 01:14:07 PM
Carl Collins. Definately Carl Collins.
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: BuzzH on October 27, 2006, 02:41:45 PM
I'd change Morgan's fate.  [spoiler]I'd kill him MUCH sooner![/spoiler]   >:D
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: rainingwolf on October 27, 2006, 02:41:58 PM
Vicki would still be alive-vicki would still be alive--Vicki would still be alive-Vicki would still.....(worst descision DS made was killing her off!) [hall2_sad] [hall_sad]
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: CastleBee on October 27, 2006, 04:55:04 PM
The Trasks
(either or both of them)

Before bricking him up, I'd make sure he had on a really tight pair of undies
with about 50 fire ants in residence. 

[firedevil]

Burn baby burn, disco inferno!
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Angelique Wins on October 27, 2006, 05:03:23 PM
Yes, Victoria!

And just remember...in true soap fashion, they never found her body and there is no grave...  [supergrin]

Judy
[angl]
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Nelson Collins on October 27, 2006, 05:27:03 PM
Yes, Victoria!

And just remember...in true soap fashion, they never found her body and there is no grave...  [supergrin]
I do love the way Charles Delaware Troll dealt with that particular storyline.  [hall2_grin]
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Jackie on October 27, 2006, 06:00:32 PM
Carl Collins. Definately Carl Collins.
Yes, change Carl Collins fate!  Most definitely.

And Harry Johnson.... "Who?"  That's a throw away character if I ever saw one.

I'd change Morgan's fate.  [spoiler]I'd kill him MUCH sooner![/spoiler]   >:D

I think your answer is hilarious!!

Vicki would still be alive-vicki would still be alive--Vicki would still be alive-Vicki would still.....(worst descision DS made was killing her off!) [hall2_sad] [hall_sad]

Agreed and I'd finish the plot of who she was... she worked so hard to find out only to be [/color][spoiler]pushed of Widow's Hill by ... Jeb?  No way!![/spoiler][/font][/size]
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Raineypark on October 27, 2006, 06:26:19 PM
I'd show up at the Crypt in the bright light of day and drive a railroad spike through the eldest member of the Collins Family...... [vryevl]
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: BuzzH on October 27, 2006, 08:28:33 PM
I'd change Morgan's fate.  [spoiler]I'd kill him MUCH sooner![/spoiler]  

I think your answer is hilarious!!

Why, thanks.  But I was completely serious!   >:D

Vicki would still be alive-vicki would still be alive--Vicki would still be alive-Vicki would still.....(worst descision DS made was killing her off!)

Agreed and I'd finish the plot of who she was... she worked so hard to find out only to be [spoiler]pushed of Widow's Hill by ... Jeb?  No way!![/spoiler]

Agree, agree, agree!!  That really pissed me off that they just ENDED that plotline unceremoniously!  Finish the first plot please!   [8311]

I'd show up at the Crypt in the bright light of day and drive a railroad spike through the eldest member of the Collins Family......

RP, you just CRACK ME UP!   [stfl]
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Cousin Barnabas on October 27, 2006, 09:35:39 PM
I would have changed Angelique's fate.......
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Jackie on October 27, 2006, 10:56:52 PM
Why, thanks.  But I was completely serious!   >:D

Sure you are and that's why I LOL.  I know many who share you feelings!
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Gerard on October 28, 2006, 01:50:36 AM
Maggie being hauled off to Wyndcliff, only because I didn't want to see her go.

Gerard
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Kristin on October 28, 2006, 06:23:08 AM
Definately Julia...in the end I would have liked to see her get  her man!!
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: IluvBarnabas on October 28, 2006, 03:08:53 PM
Definately Julia...in the end I would have liked to see her get  her man!!

Well there is quite a bit fanfiction where Julia DOES get her man.......and Sam Hall also wrote a story getting her and Barnabas together. It would have been great though if we could have actually have seen it on the show.
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: AndreDuPres on October 28, 2006, 06:40:09 PM
Lady Hampshire!  She's not only my favourite KLS character, but one of my favourites in the entire series.  It's such a pity that she [spoiler]gets sucked into that painting to 1795/1797/whatever only to commit suicide as Josette.[/spoiler]  Even though she had some...hrm...supernatural problems, she was a fairly realistic character.
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: BuzzH on October 29, 2006, 03:46:48 AM
Well there is quite a bit fanfiction where Julia DOES get her man

I wrote two stories where she got her man.  But another, painful, one where she didn't!   [hall2_cry]
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: stefan on October 29, 2006, 02:42:22 PM
I feel like a broken record here, but definately Josette's fate and Barnabas' fate as well. Awful what happened to the both of them ... and, now that I'm on the subject - the whole fate of the 1795 Collins crown including poor good-hearted Jeremiah. He certainly never deserved what he got, neither did Sarah.
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Zahir on October 29, 2006, 07:45:20 PM
Chris Jennings and his sister Amy.
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Bob_the_Bartender on October 29, 2006, 10:34:23 PM
I would have preferred if the likable and avuncular Sam Evans had not been killed.  (Of course, Barnabas commissioning Sam to "age" that portrait of Angelique, resulting in Sam's blindness, was an absolute stroke of "genius" by Mr. B., imho.) [hall2_angry]
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Lydia on October 29, 2006, 10:54:52 PM
I would have preferred if the likable and avuncular Sam Evans had not been killed.[hall2_angry]

YES!!!  David Ford could have held onto his script and read from it while they were taping and I wouldn't have cared, so long as he was still around.
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: IluvBarnabas on October 30, 2006, 01:43:13 AM
I would have preferred if the likable and avuncular Sam Evans had not been killed.  (Of course, Barnabas commissioning Sam to "age" that portrait of Angelique, resulting in Sam's blindness, was an absolute stroke of "genius" by Mr. B., imho.) [hall2_angry]

I don't believe Barnabas meant any harm to come to Sam and he did realize it had been a mistake to involve him, but unfortunately it was too little too late by then.  [hall_embarrassed]
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Sunny_Collins on November 01, 2006, 04:33:17 PM
I would definitely change Jeremiah's fate. He tried so very hard to fight Angelique's curse, he didn't want to be with Josette in any way and he resisted as long as he could. Then he was killed because of a tragic unnecessary duel! He didn't deserve to die!  [hall2_cry]

I would also keep Joe and Maggie together, let Joe explain what had happened to him, IMHO, they were one of the greatest couples on the show, and that relationship was too good to end so sadly.

Beth would have lived and married Quentin. I think they truly loved one another.

I'll probably think of more...  [hall_grin]
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Bob_the_Bartender on November 02, 2006, 08:21:02 PM
I would have preferred if the likable and avuncular Sam Evans had not been killed.  (Of course, Barnabas commissioning Sam to "age" that portrait of Angelique, resulting in Sam's blindness, was an absolute stroke of "genius" by Mr. B., imho.) [hall2_angry]

I don't believe Barnabas meant any harm to come to Sam and he did realize it had been a mistake to involve him, but unfortunately it was too little too late by then.  [hall_embarrassed]

Yes, I agree with you that Barnabas did not intend to get Sam harmed with that "portrait-altering" gig.  Nevertheless, I suspect that both Sam and Maggie would have been a heck of a lot happier IF  they had never met Mr. Barnabas Collins in the first place. [hall2_grin]
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Sunny_Collins on November 04, 2006, 07:41:33 PM
Dave Woodard would never have been killed!  :'(

Granted, a different actor was playing him by that time, but I still have a picture of the original Woodard in my mind, and his death is just so terrible. I'm not sure how his fate might have been altered, perhaps  he might have somehow been brought in to the secret and helped Julia find a cure for Barnabas. I really like him and he was intelligent and kind, providing a somewhat calming influence on the show.

I was also very sad to see Sandor die. He and Magda had a great relationship that was so much fun to watch. I loved that character, couldn't they have found some way to keep him around?  [hall2_sad]

I would have kept Chris and Amy at Collinwood. They just disappeared one day, with only a comment from one of the characters to tell us of their departure. Not to mention they never solved Chris's problem, and after focusing on it for so long, they should have. Rather annoying really!  [hall2_angry]

They were such excellent characters,, I missed them when they left.
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: IluvBarnabas on November 04, 2006, 07:51:44 PM
Yeah, I too hated the abrupt, unseen and unexplained departures of Chris and Amy too.  I really cared about what happened these two and to have the writers just drop their whole story without any kind of closure was an insult. >:(

I kept hoping they would go into more detail about what happened with Chris and Amy but they never did.  :-
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: BuzzH on November 04, 2006, 07:57:08 PM
Yeah, I too hated the abrupt, unseen and unexplained departures of Chris and Amy too.  I really cared about what happened these two and to have the writers just drop their whole story without any kind of closure was an insult.

Hey, this was nothing new to DC or his writers!  They just DROPPED the whole 'Vickie searching for her mother' plotline once Barnabas showed up.  That really pissed me off!   >:(
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: IluvBarnabas on November 05, 2006, 04:03:35 PM
Hey, this was nothing new to DC or his writers!  They just DROPPED the whole 'Vickie searching for her mother' plotline once Barnabas showed up.  That really pissed me off!   >:(

You're right, they're dropping Vicki's whole parentage storyline was equally as bad. Poor Vicki never did find out who she was or where she came from.

I always like to think Elizabeth was her mother but for some reason Elizabeth had been forced to give her up. It's too bad the writers couldn't have followed through on this.  :(
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Zahir on November 05, 2006, 06:03:04 PM
I rather liked the idea that Vicki and Jeff had children back in the 18th century, and that Victoria was their descendant.

Of course, that still doesn't explain much about the mailings of money from Bangor or the Collins family specifically hiring her...
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Angelique Wins on November 05, 2006, 06:23:44 PM
You're right, they're dropping Vicki's whole parentage storyline was equally as bad. Poor Vicki never did find out who she was or where she came from.

I always like to think Elizabeth was her mother but for some reason Elizabeth had been forced to give her up. It's too bad the writers couldn't have followed through on this.  :(

I agree, and there's a .wav file out there somewhere in cyberspace of Joan Bennett saying something like [spoiler]'Speaking as Elizabeth, yes, I am Vicki's mother.'  There's also the often-told story of one of the reasons AM might have gotten the part was that she had a similar look to Joan Bennett[/spoiler]  Maybe that's not really a spoiler, but it's not like it takes rocket science to unveil it, lol!

I too was intriqued by Vicki's long search and never-answered questions [spoiler]not to mention her untimely and totally pointless death[/spoiler] and a bud of an idea began to grow as I was writing my first DS fan fiction.  Now the second one [book2]  "Hearts Restored" is well under way and through a different kind of flashback, the existence of a packet of old letters, a "new" old family friend, and a few more suprises, I am gradually revealing what I think is a plausible storyline for Elizabeth before she met Paul.

I shared my idea with Betsy Durkin when I met her at this year's fest in NY and she was very encouraging.  She had obviously thought long and hard about the character and was very interested to hear my theories.  (If anyone has an opportunity to meet Ms. Durkin at a future Fest or book signing, please do so.  She's a VERY warm and sincere person.  Everybody I encountered at the Fest and after who met her says,"Did you meet Betsy Durkin?  She so sweet! I LOVE her!!!)

But yes, to get back on track of the this particular thread, I would definitely have made (and am making lol!)  made some changes in Vicki's life.

Judy
[angl]
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: BuzzH on November 05, 2006, 07:05:47 PM
I rather liked the idea that Vicki and Jeff had children back in the 18th century, and that Victoria was their descendant.

We did another RR that dealt w/this idea.  ;)
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: BuzzH on November 06, 2006, 12:20:08 AM
I agree, and there's a .wav file out there somewhere in cyberspace of Joan Bennett saying something like [spoiler]'Speaking as Elizabeth, yes, I am Vicki's mother.'  There's also the often-told story of one of the reasons AM might have gotten the part was that she had a similar look to Joan Bennett[/spoiler]  Maybe that's not really a spoiler, but it's not like it takes rocket science to unveil it, lol!

Indeed, that interview/revelation was filmed by none other than our very own Selby D. Pearson!  But I still don't buy that she was really Vickie's mother.  If you've seen the pre-Barn eps, just look at [spoiler]the portrait of Betty Hanscomb who Vickie could be a clone of!  I think Liz was her sister, that her father slept w/Betty, daughter of the butler Hanscombe and voila![/spoiler]

I shared my idea with Betsy Durkin when I met her at this year's fest in NY and she was very encouraging.  She had obviously thought long and hard about the character and was very interested to hear my theories.  (If anyone has an opportunity to meet Ms. Durkin at a future Fest or book signing, please do so.  She's a VERY warm and sincere person.  Everybody I encountered at the Fest and after who met her says,"Did you meet Betsy Durkin?  She so sweet! I LOVE her!!!)

She IS sweet isn't she?  Let's hope her appearance at the Fest and the ill-fated Halloween bash last week will mean she'll come back to another Fest.  She seemed to really enjoy herself and have fun.  And of course, if she made oodles of money...;)
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Angelique Wins on November 06, 2006, 03:12:58 AM
...I still don't buy that she was really Vickie's mother.  If you've seen the pre-Barn eps, just look at [spoiler]the portrait of Betty Hanscomb who Vickie could be a clone of!  I think Liz was her sister, that her father slept w/Betty, daughter of the butler Hanscombe and voila![/spoiler]
Yes, I knew about that (lovely girl, terrible what happened) but my LIPS are SEALED until I finish the Vicki part of my saga.  [read3]
Judy
[angl]
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Para L. Time on November 06, 2006, 03:38:05 AM
In my story, Altered Shadows, in which Barnabas did not exist between 1840 and 1971, Victoria never went back to the past, and she discovered who her real parents were, even discovering she has a sibling right in Collinsport! I do believe that Joan Bennett wanted very much for Victoria to be her daughter, but I agree that she couldn't have been. Elizabeth knew who Victoria's parents were, and I'm sure that she sent her money all those years, and then gave her a job, because of her conscience, not because she was her mother!
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: BuzzH on November 06, 2006, 03:58:15 PM
You know, I just reallized that I didn't seriously ring in here!  The character whose fate I would have changed would of course be BUZZ!  He was a true hepcat and very much w/the times of the late 60's, besides he was a hoot and a half who didn't take s*%# from anyone.  Can you imagine if he'd been around to interact w/Barnabas?!   ;)  I would have loved for him to become a regular character and to have a counterpart in 1795.   ;D
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 06, 2006, 09:03:00 PM
I would have loved for him to become a regular character and to have a counterpart in 1795.

But what would his 1970PT counterpart been like? ... Hmmm - perhaps he could have been the Collinses dreadfully dull accountant.  [hall2_shocked]  But one who had secretly dreamed of a more exciting and freeing lifestyle, and with Angelique's help...  [hall2_wink]  After all, I'm sure Ang could have juggled at least one more man in her life.
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: BuzzH on November 06, 2006, 09:34:05 PM
But what would his 1970PT counterpart been like? ... Hmmm - perhaps he could have been the Collinses dreadfully dull accountant. 

But, we already had the dullard of 1970 PT in Cyrus Longworth!   >:D  (I actually liked Cyrus the best of this plotline, but he WAS dull).  It indeed would have been interesting to make Buzz the complete OPPOSITE of his RT character (again, assuming Michael Hadge had been signed to a long-term contract and hung around).  Maybe the shipyard foreman?  BTW, Bobubas and I were discussing this last night on the phone, just what did the family DO in PT (1970 AND 1841?)  Anyone have a guess?  For that matter, what did they do in RT 1840 & 1897?  The only clear info we have on the family business is 1795 (shipbuilding) and present day RT (cannery/fishing fleet).  But, I digress...Maybe in PT he could have been carrying on an affair w/Carolyn Loomis!  ;)  I always thought Michael & Nancy had pretty good chemistry (not as good as she had w/Johnny Karlen, but not bad).   ;D
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 06, 2006, 09:53:19 PM
But, we already had the dullard of 1970 PT in Cyrus Longworth!

Well, Cyrus was more repressed than dull. And no one with that much interest/knowledge about the Occult could ever be truly dull.  ;)

No, compared to PTBuzz the Accountant, Cyrus, even in his own persona, would have been the life of the party.  :o  PTBuzz would have been the classic view of accountants taken to the extreme - well, if accountant and extremely dull aren't already completely synonymous for each other.  :D

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Maybe in PT he could have been carrying on an affair w/Carolyn Loomis!

I like that!

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I always thought Michael & Nancy had pretty good chemistry

Definitely.
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: BuzzH on November 07, 2006, 03:17:22 PM
PTBuzz would have been the classic view of accountants taken to the extreme

Okay, now I have a mental image of Robert Carradine in 'Revenge of the Nerds'!  <haw-haw-haw-haw-haw-Nerd Laugh!>   >:D
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Nelson Collins on November 09, 2006, 09:24:41 PM
One character whose fate I would have changed would be Burke's.  First, I would have revealed that Barn had had a hand in Burke's plane going down, then in the tumult of vicki's return from the past and Jeff/Peter, a mysterious stranger would have come back to Collinsport, and Vicki would meet him and see Burke in this man's eyey, before finally revealing himself to BE Burke (recast), the only survivor of the crash, and how he looks different because the plastic surgeon that repaired his face didn't know what he really looked like.....

Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: michael c on November 10, 2006, 01:37:08 AM
one of the biggest misconceptions about the show is that barnabas was somehow invloved in burke's plane crash.

he wasn't.

sarah warned david and carolyn that someone was going to die.they heard it in the music.no one would cause it and nothing could stop it.then vicki heard the wailing of the widows.

goosebumps!

Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Nelson Collins on November 10, 2006, 05:52:02 AM
one of the biggest misconceptions about the show is that barnabas was somehow invloved in burke's plane crash.

he wasn't.
Oh, I know he wasn't involved with Burke's death. I just thought it was so oddly random that Barnabas wants Burke out of the way and then voila!
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: BuzzH on November 10, 2006, 03:49:58 PM
Oh, I know he wasn't involved with Burke's death. I just thought it was so oddly random that Barnabas wants Burke out of the way and then voila!

I'm w/you Nelson.  I know Barnabas really had nothing to do w/the plane crash either, but, as the Church Lady would say, "How CONVEEEEEENIANT!"   >:D
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Joeytrom on November 11, 2006, 01:55:18 AM
I thought that originally Burke was temporarily removed and intended to return later on.  When Anthony George left DS, they just left Burke to be gone.  They should have brought him back played by Timothy Gordon.

The best time would have been right before Vicky and Jeff were to get married.
 
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: MaineGirl on November 15, 2006, 12:25:17 AM
This is a toughie. I would like to have had Willie NOT go into Windcliffe. For you see, he is such an interesting character...when he came back from Windcliffe he was far more soft. Before he had a street toughness about him. After, not so much. He was still sweet, but he was so messed up and fragile, I feared for him more than I had before. And Barn, while less physically abusive (it seemed to me) was far more psychologically abusive. Oh wait...this answer is about Willie not Barn!

Of course, I would like to have Willie not open that dratted coffin! But then we wouldn't even really have a story, would we.   [hall2_tongue]

MaineGirl
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 15, 2006, 02:39:47 AM
And Barn ... was far more psychologically abusive.

Barnabas? Psychologically abusive? Have you ever got that right! And in particular during '68 when it came to Willie, Barn brought psychological abuse to an art form, especially during the second experiment!  [hall2_rolleyes]
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: BuzzH on November 15, 2006, 03:30:54 AM
And Barn ... was far more psychologically abusive.

Barnabas? Psychologically abusive? Have you ever got that right! And in particular during '68 when it came to Willie, Barn brought psychological abuse to an art form, especially during the second experiment! 

Barnabas was a bastard, period.  (but, I still love him, guess both Julia and I are saps, LOL!  ;))
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: IluvBarnabas on November 15, 2006, 05:41:37 AM
Barnabas was a bastard, period.  (but, I still love him, guess both Julia and I are saps, LOL!  ;))

And don't forget about me! I REALLY love Barnabas (as one can tell by my username) so I guess that makes me the biggest sap of all! [hall2_grin]
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: MagnusTrask on November 18, 2006, 10:13:17 PM
I rather liked the idea that Vicki and Jeff had children back in the 18th century, and that Victoria was their descendant.

I've noticed here and there in recent years plot ideas where someone becomes his own ancestor.   How would a union between two people result, generations later, in all the genes rearranging themselves back into the exact same person, though?    Genes mingle and produce different combinations and different traits and different people.   The more generations go by, the more changes.   This kind of thing crops up in science fiction, so I've had a little time to think about it.    It's SF parodies though, from what I can tell so far, Red Dwarf and Futurama.    Hard SF wouldn't do this, I think.

Not trying to give you a hard time, Zahir; I've just had this on my mind occasionally.

********

MB, midnite....

By the way, the Spoiler box doesn't seem to be working for me.  By the time I see it, and my red alert goes off in my head and says to stop reading, I'm already partway through.   I wonder if anyone else has that problem.   It's like reaction time when you're driving, I guess.   The only thing I can think of is allowing a few blank lines before the spoiler, but then what's a spoiler for me is dofferent than for someone else, and most of mine won't even get boxed.   It's 1968 for me.   So i'll just have to make do as best I can.

(Discussion of the spoiler box situation has been moved to the Testing board and to the topic "Re: Spoiler Box Contents Always On Display".  --MB  :))
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Miranda on November 23, 2006, 05:50:54 PM
I agree with the person who said they would have changed Angelique's fate in 1840--never made any sense to me to kill her off since Barnabas was going back to 1971--she could have returned there too and they might have had a happy if challenging ever after...well, the door was left open, so who knows, she may have returned in some way to `1971...
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Joeytrom on November 23, 2006, 06:00:11 PM
in the 1840 Concordance, the late Authur Warren Oddson had some great ideas regarding the 1840 inconsistencies.
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Miranda on November 23, 2006, 06:05:57 PM
Yes, Joeytrom, that essay in the 1840 concordance is great!!
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on November 24, 2006, 06:51:04 AM
well, the door was left open, so who knows, she may have returned in some way to `1971...

According to Sam Hall, there were plans for Ang to reappear in 1971. Not that that should surprise anyone since no one is ever truly dead for long on DS - especially someone like Ang.  [wink2]
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: Alondra on January 31, 2007, 04:00:36 AM
This is a toughie. I would like to have had Willie NOT go into Windcliffe. For you see, he is such an interesting character...when he came back from Windcliffe he was far more soft. Before he had a street toughness about him. After, not so much. He was still sweet, but he was so messed up and fragile, I feared for him more than I had before. And Barn, while less physically abusive (it seemed to me) was far more psychologically abusive. Oh wait...this answer is about Willie not Barn!

Of course, I would like to have Willie not open that dratted coffin! But then we wouldn't even really have a story, would we.   [hall2_tongue]

Wow I could have written this. And I have in several posts in the yahoo groups. Willie was not the same after Wyndcliff. I would like to know about his experiences there. Why would he want to come back to work for Barnabas again knowing what kind of treatment he would get? Was the treatment so much worse at Wyndcliff?

Willie after Wyndcliff was like a little child. [spoiler]When Barnabas and Julia brought Adam to the Old House for Willie to help care for, Willie became like the jealous older brother, jealous of Daddy Barnabas' attention to Adam. That's why he tormented him with the chicken leg and made fun of him.

I hated when Barnabas lied to him concerning the experiment, that Adam had threatened to kill Maggie if Willie didn't help with the experiment. I don't blame Willie one bit for not wanting to go dig up cadavers. Yet he would do it for Maggie and Barnabas knew it. I hated when Barnabas called Willie's love for Maggie infatuation. Oh his love for Josette was the real thing but Willie's was only infatuation. Sure Barnabas, keep belittling Willie as though he's a little kid with a crush.[/spoiler]

Willie needed someone to take him by the hand and gently help him to grow up again after Wyndcliff. He had become a snivelling whiner somewhat during that time. But because I love him I don't mind too much, his whining is a heck of a lot more endearing than the same whining from Harry Johnson.

Ditto what everyone else said about Vicki and here's one more.

[spoiler]There would have been no Amanda Harris. Quentin would have fallen for Beth like he should have and that's it! Amanda Harris wouldn't have been on the show. If there's one character who is a complete waste, it's her.[/spoiler]

Alondra
Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: adamsgirl on January 31, 2007, 04:21:47 AM
No one's said this yet, but I will: I would have definitely did something different with the Adam storyline. I've said so here on this forum in other threads, but here it goes: [spoiler]Adam and Barnabas had a special connection because Barnabas gave Adam his life force. What happened to one happened to the other. So, what happened after Adam just left, thanks to Prof. Stokes?[/spoiler] That's never, ever resolved!

Too, I wouldn't have done the 1840 storyline the way it ended. [spoiler]I'd have had Barnabas and Angelique FINALLY getting together. I surely wouldn't have had her die for him to realize he had always loved her![/spoiler]

Title: Re: Character's fate you would have liked to have changed...
Post by: loril54 on January 31, 2007, 08:13:40 AM
Of course I would have Julia and Barn get together and have Adam come back.  I Got really tired of the Angelique line after all she did to Barns family how could he forgive her.  His upset would still be there.

I would have Elizabeth find someone along with Carolyn.

Quentin and Tom solver ther werewolf problem.