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Title: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: kuanyin on June 13, 2002, 04:13:31 AM
What is your favorite? I'm asking, and drawing a blank about my own answer. I'm sure that I'll get reminded in your answers though.  I can tell you what I HAVEN'T liked though. Have seen the Dracula movie with Bela Lugosi (was it the first one?) and found it pretty darn bad. Sorry, I know some here like it very much, but I was quite disappointed. And I HATED "Shadow of the Vampire" with Willem Dafoe. I want a traditional vampire, not what one might be like if there really were such a disgusting thing.

I really liked "The Lost Boys" a lot at the time. Recently saw most of it on tv and it held up quite well, was as good as I remembered. Haven't seen "An American Werewolf in London" in ages, but it was very good to me then. I'm looking forward to seeing "Rosemary's Baby" again, it's on my Netflix dvd list. It may not belong in this list, but it IS a great movie.

I've heard mixed things about "Blade" and "Blade II". What did those who have seen them think?
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: ProfStokes on June 13, 2002, 09:30:38 AM
Apart from the Universal classics, I haven't seen too many movies of either category, so I'll have to stick to those.  I did like Dracula's Daughter and Son of Dracula, but shapeshifter movies impress me more than the others.  I think I enjoy them so much because it's easy to feel sorry for the main characters; they're not 'real' monsters because they aren't to blame for their conditions.  

The Wolfman was a wonderful piece of work, original in that it wasn't based on any literary work as far as I know.  It also set the standard for werewolf mythology to follow (silver as repellant/killing means, the sign of the pentagram, and the rhyme about the full moon.)  Lon Chaney, Jr. was excellent as the tortured Larry Talbot, and I wish that he'd been given more dramatic roles to play rather than being stuck as the (often-mindless) monster.  To me, Talbot is not a 'monster' but more of a tragic figure.  IMHO, The Wolfmanis a drama, not a 'scary movie' (but maybe I'm just taking it too seriously.)

Werewolf of London (the first werewolf movie, as I understand it) is another good one.  I didn't like it when I first saw it, but over several years of annual Halloween viewing, I came to appreciate it more.  I enjoy the flavor offered by the setting, and the film really has some nice creative aspects too (the curse's origins in Tibet--Alexandra David-Neel's land of magic and mystery--and the botanical cure.)  Again, it involves human drama in addition to 'horror' as the title character struggles to salvage his relationship with his wife.  The onset of lycanthropy coincides neatly with this predicament, perhaps purposely; jealousy is said to bring out the beast in one.  On a campier note, I always chuckle to see Wilfred Glendon, the 'civilized' werewolf; whereas Talbot, Chris Jennings, or Quentin often rip off their shirts or shoes before or during their transformations, he actually stops to put on his scarf and hat before departing on his moonlit rampage.  ;D

Finally, I really enjoyed the original Cat People, which put a variation on shapeshifters by using a panther instead of a wolf.  It dealt with psychological aspects in addition to horrific ones (and once more plays the jealousy card), and doesn't ever really show the monster, unlike the above-mentioned titles.  Irena's progression from an ingenue frightened by her background to a desperate woman who embraces it for her own ends is well-captured and believable.

ProfStokes

Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: Daphne on June 14, 2002, 12:36:28 AM
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And I HATED "Shadow of the Vampire" with Willem Dafoe. I want a traditional vampire, not what one might be like if there really were such a disgusting thing.


Oooooooo I wanted to see that sooo bad!! I rented "Nosferatu" because of it, which was kinda creepy...I was too scared to watch the original one, because I thought it would frighten the living daylights out of me....I think I only watched a couple minutes of it, though, because it was overdue  :P Willem Dafoe is one of my faavorite favorite actors. His eyes hypnotize me. They're so icy and cold sometimes...like in Spiderman. WOW he really freaked me out, when he saw the drop of blood on the dude's floor, and he was like "......*LOOKS UP SUDDENLY*" and i was like "AAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!" He's so creepy it's kewl! Brrrrrrrr....it's cold in here suddenly!

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"Rosemary's Baby" again, it's on my Netflix dvd list. It may not belong in this list, but it IS a great movie.


That movie still creeps me out! I just see the cover in Blockbuster and I scamper away. OOOOOO CREEEPPPYYYY!!

My favorite horror movie is NODS  ;D ....such a dedicated fan I am! *wink wink* I didn't like HODS, though.  >:( It makes noooo sense if you haven't seen 1968 first [which I hadn't when I first watched it]. I keep meaning to go rewatch it and see if I get it this time around.

My fav vampire movie would be.....ummmmmmm.... I don't think I have one. I couldn't get through Interview with a Vampire because it was 3 a.m., I was exhausted, and seeing the two of them biting open rats and then wringing them out like wet clothes and seeing the blood trickling out of the rat's body was just TOO much for me, and I'm a fan of the bloody scenes of Halloween! *shivers* BLEH!  :P

~Daphne, who's off to rewatch HODS....or NODS.....or maybe just watch Carolyn and Buzz .... again ;D
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: deron on June 14, 2002, 12:49:20 AM
I guess the one movie that I remember liking the most was Salem's Lot.  It scared the crap out of me when I was younger.

I know that it was a TV movie and the production values weren't that of a major motion picture, but just the thought of that kid floating outside his brothers bedroom window asking him to let him in gives me the chills.

deron
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: Philippe Cordier on June 14, 2002, 03:32:11 AM
Considering my lifelong interest in vampires, I can't think of a truly good vampire movie.

Contemporary vampire movies:  "Embrace of the Vampire" began with some promise but degenerated about halfway through.  Ditto for "The Hunger" with Catherine Deneuve and Susan Sarandon.  "Count Yorga, Vampire" from the '70s (shown recently on AMC) isn't too bad, just be prepared that it sometimes looks like a home movie  ;).

"Dracula" has never been filmed very faithfully, but the closest versions are Dan Curtis' version with Jack Palance and a BBC version with Louis Jourdan, which I have never seen but have read everything about it that I could find.

Christopher Lee did an almost unknown, low-budget version of "Dracula" that was filmed in Spain, which also begins very promisingly.  This is the only version where Dracula appears exactly as he's described in the book:  powerfully built, white hair, long moustache, etc.  And his speech in the castle (filmed realistically in a dark castle in Spain) about fighting the Tartars, etc., is the best representation of Bram Stoker's character -- superb job on Christopher Lee's part.  Apparently funding for the film ran out halfway through filming, and it shows ... palm trees in the background are not a realistic setting for the scenes in England.  The ending is well done, though.

The most faithful representation of "Frankenstein," as I wrote in one of the "Adam" threads a few days ago, is the Calvin Floyd version, "Terror of Frankenstein" a.k.a. "Victor Frankenstein." It is somewhat disconcerting when the creature speaks with a Swedish accent, though.  :)

Deron mentions "Salem's Lot."  I saw that for the first time recently when it aired on Lifetime.  (Too bad they couldn't have filmed on location in New England rather than California or wherever -- DS's sets looked better!)  I liked that quite well, too, enough so that I've bought the book, never having read a thing by Stephen King.  The only other Stephen King movie (TV or major motion picture) that I thought was any good was "The Shining" (the Jack Nicholson movie, not the awful TV miniseries).
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: jennifer on June 14, 2002, 05:30:53 AM
i loved Salem's Lot but i also kinda liked the one with George Hamilton for no other reason than i get a kick out of old George!
oh i REALLY NEED SLEEP think i'm having a senior moment! :o
good nite
jennifer
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: Mark Rainey on June 14, 2002, 05:41:14 AM
The COUNT YORGA movies are a scream; they actually unnerved me a bit when I was a kid. Robert Quarry is perfect for the part; he's got a wonderful presence and an old-world charm about him. Plus, he sports the best vampire fangs--including sharpened incisors--that ever appeared on screen to that point.

The 1978 BBC production of DRACULA, starring Louis Jourdan, is easily the most faithful to the novel, but even it falls short in places. Why every producer of every Drac film has to change all the character names and relationships around mystifies me. Regardless, it's a fine adaptation, with very dark atmosphere and an effective, eerie muscial score. Jourdan is not the actor one would immediately think of as Dracula, but if you disregard the fact that he does not resemble the description in the novel, he's excellent in the role. Frank Finlay is the consummate Van Helsing; better, even, than Peter Cushing, who is otherwise my favorite (although my appreciation of the Hammer Drac films is minimal). The most glaring shortcoming is the actor who plays Quincy; he's a Brit playing a Texan and the accent is to send one into convulsions of laughter.

FRIGHT NIGHT is a heap of fun; it's got the right balance of comedy and thrills. Roddy McDowell is fabulous, and I really like Chris Sarandon as the vampire. I enjoy the sequel a lot, too, though not as much as the original.

For a really heavy-duty, killer vampire flick, try NEAR DARK, starring Lance Hendrickson and Bill Paxton. The resolution is a bit too pat and far-fetched (even for a vampire movie), but the characters are way cool, especially Hendrickson. He's one of my favorite actors and this part was tailor-made for him.

DRACULA 2000 was pretty cool. Not a top-notch film by any stretch, but it gave a thoroughly interesting origin for the character and had some genuinely creepy moments. Plus some good laughs. Didn't particularly care for the noisy soundtrack.

And then there's... BLACULA! What a hoot! This is a campy romp, about in the same league as COUNT YORGA. It's another one that swipes the DS theme of the vampire having a lost love reincarnated in the present. Kinda fun, though.

Overall, I like the Dan Curtis DRACULA with Jack Palance, although some of the elements of the novel that were excised (no doubt due to time and budget constraints) were all but unforgivable. Palance does a superb job, especially in recounting his role as a Transylvanian warrior prince. Castle Dracula, however, looks like an old Tudor home--not quite what one would expect to find in the middle of the Carpathians.

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Christopher Lee did an almost unknown, low-budget version of "Dracula" that was filmed in Spain, which also begins very promisingly.

Yeah, it did open on a nice, creepy note, and Christopher Lee starts out well. But by the end of it, there's not much to differentiate it from the Hammer Dracs, where he's reduced to walking around looking menacing and hissing a lot. Both Dracula and Lee always deserved a lot better.

Sometimes I almost like Coppola's DRACULA, and sometimes I want to throttle everyone involved in it. Gary Oldman is fabulous, especially when he's over the top as the old crone Drac. However, Anthony Hopkins as Van Helsing is a sad bit; Hopkins is one of my favorite actors, but he just didn't work in this part. Why he occasionally refers to Dracula as "Dracul"--in essence referring to Vlad's pappy--is inexplicable and distracting. And while I don't particularly dislike Keanu Reeves, as so many people I know do, he does go a long way in this movie toward justifying all the terrible things people say about him. The production has a neat theatrical quality about it, and I like a lot of the various styles of cinematography, but it ultimately looks like it was filmed on a big sound stage. The settings don't convey any sense of reality.

Hey... there's always THE NIGHT STALKER! One of my faves....

[shadow=green,left,300]--Mark[/shadow]

Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: ClaudeNorth on June 14, 2002, 05:48:18 AM
Hi!

A vampire movie that I recommend most highly is "Let's Scare Jessica To Death."  It isn't a conventional horror film, but a mysterious, haunting, and strangely lovely little film.  It's available on VHS from Paramount, so you should be able to find it at a well-stocked video store.  As far as I know, it's not on DVD (but should be).

Another enjoyable vampire film is "Blacula."  People tend to dismiss it without seeing it because of the title, but it's actually a good, solid horror film.

"Daughters of Darkness" is another film worth checking out.  Delphine Seyrig is totally captivating as the Countess Bathory, and it features DS' own John Karlen as the male lead.  (For those who care about this sort of thing, the DVD contains the uncut version which offers a glimpse of Willie's willie...)

Hope this helps...

John
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: Mark Rainey on June 14, 2002, 05:53:02 AM
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vampire movie that I recommend most highly is "Let's Scare Jessica To Death."  It isn't a conventional horror film, but a mysterious, haunting, and strangely lovely little film.  It's available on VHS from Paramount, so you should be able to find it at a well-stocked video store.  As far as I know, it's not on DVD (but should be).

John -- Did that one star Zsa Zsa Gabor and have a portrait of her that was dripping blood? And was there a little girl that sang about "The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out... in your stomach and out your mouth?" If that's the one I'm thinking about, it creeped me out big time when I was a kid. Haven't seen it since, but will keep an eye out for it.

[shadow=purple,left,300]--Mark[/shadow]
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: ClaudeNorth on June 15, 2002, 03:24:49 AM
Mark,

The film you're remembering is "Picture Mommy Dead" costarring Don Ameche and Martha Hyer.  I've only seen it once, but I recall it being a hoot.

Regards,

John
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: Philippe Cordier on June 15, 2002, 10:41:24 PM
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Sometimes I almost like Coppola's DRACULA, and sometimes I want to throttle everyone involved in it. Gary Oldman is fabulous, especially when he's over the top as the old crone Drac. However, Anthony Hopkins as Van Helsing is a sad bit; Hopkins is one of my favorite actors, but he just didn't work in this part. Why he occasionally refers to Dracula as "Dracul"--in essence referring to Vlad's pappy--is inexplicable and distracting. And while I don't particularly dislike Keanu Reeves, as so many people I know do, he does go a long way in this movie toward justifying all the terrible things people say about him. The production has a neat theatrical quality about it, and I like a lot of the various styles of cinematography, but it ultimately looks like it was filmed on a big sound stage. The settings don't convey any sense of reality.


Not to mention that the movie is a complete perversion of Stoker's novel when it comes to characters and themes.  "Coppola's Dracula," yes.  "Bram Stoker's," no.

Thanks for your description of the Louis Jourdan/BBC version of  "Count Dracula." It's one of about half a dozen things I've tried to track down for years (checking TV schedules, video searches), with no luck.
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: Gerard on June 15, 2002, 11:42:48 PM
I would have to say my favorite (because it was so faithful to the book) was the BBC 1978 Louis Jordan miniseries "Dracula".  I always thought it was way too difficult to make a film version of Stoker's novel because it is too long and complex to be shoved into two-to-three hours.

Since we've brought up Stephen King, I would have to say that my favorite theatrical version of his works is "Carrie" (Sissy Spacek and Piper Laurie did marvelous jobs and earned their Oscar nominations), and my favorite TV miniseries adaptation would have to be "The Stand".

Gerard
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: jennifer on June 16, 2002, 05:27:41 AM
would have to say if Mark's book became a movie(which i know probaly can''t) it be be my favorite!

jennifer
all right forgive me Mark i'm shamless Did want to see more of your latest story!)
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: The Cryptkeeper on June 16, 2002, 06:02:57 AM

HORROR OF DRACULA produced by Hammer Films, with three titans of classic horror. Peter Cushing, Christopher Lee and director Terence Fisher. A film that is gothic, eerie and has some hypnotic music and great visuals in splended color and sets. This is one of my favorite vampire/hammer films.

BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA  from director Francis Coppola comes this faithful adaptation of Stoker's famous novel. Gary Oldman was excellent as the Count, truly one of the best Drac perfomances, along the lines of Schrek, Lugosi, Lee, Langella and Kinski. Hopkins was great as Van Helsing and the remaining cast was good. Great sets and costumes, make-up and visuals. A gothic extravagannza. One of my all-ime favs.

THE FEARLESS VAMPIRE KILLERS from Roman Polanski, who co-stars and directs this one with his fiance Sharon Tate and Ferdy Mane and an excellent British cast. This film makes a humoruos spoof towards the vampire legend. Boasting excellent visuals, gothic sets and some really funny moments. Another fav...

SUBSPECIES produced by Full Moon Pictures and written/directed by Ted Niceloua with one of the creepiest vampires ever, Radu. Looking very much like Kinski's Nosferatu. This fim was completely shot on location in Romania with some great sets, visuals and vampire gore. A good low-budget horror film.

NOSFERATU THE VAMPYRE written and directed by Werner Herzog, with Klaus Kinski as a haunting and creepy Count Dracula. This film is the remake of the original Nosferatu. This film boasts some eerie sets and some good visuals. I highly recommend this one.

VAMPIRE HUNTER D: BLOODLUST this is the remake/sequel of the original VHD. In fact this film out does the original in every aspect. With some of the meanest and baddest monsters ever. In which D must go up against. Boasting some incredible visuals and  breathtaking anime...highly recommended!!!

;D 8)
There are more!
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: Teresa on June 17, 2002, 02:32:32 AM
As a child I was terrified by vampire/monster movies. I remember hiding under blankets knowing I was going to be the next one to go.
Frightnight is a great one and seems to be on rotation right now where I live. I remember my mom taking my sister and I to the drive in to see a movie and the opening one was Blacula. My poor mom freaked out that she took her two sweet little girls to see a movie like that.
One of the most frightening things that happened to me was when I was in my basement (alone with the lights out) flipping through the channels and came across the Exorcist. When I realized what it was I went to turn it quickly and the remote broke right there and then. I swear I thought my heart was going to burst when I ran up the stairs. It totally freaked me out.
Teresa
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: Josette on June 17, 2002, 07:19:12 AM
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Not to mention that the movie is a complete perversion of Stoker's novel when it comes to characters and themes.  "Coppola's Dracula," yes.  "Bram Stoker's," no.

I don't remember too much of the movie, but I remember being anxious to see it because all of the publicity beforehand indicated that this was "Bram Stoker's" Dracula - presumably really faithful to the book for a change.

The only thing I specifically recall is the scene when Dracula has Mina drink from his vein.  In the book I would compare that to a rape.  He forced her to do this horrid thing.  In the movie they made it like a love scene and she was quite willing.  I don't remember whether the rest was fairly close to the book or not, that one drastic change infuriated me!
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: Philippe Cordier on June 19, 2002, 02:20:07 AM
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I don't remember too much of the movie, but I remember being anxious to see it because all of the publicity beforehand indicated that this was "Bram Stoker's" Dracula - presumably really faithful to the book for a change.

The only thing I specifically recall is the scene when Dracula has Mina drink from his vein.  In the book I would compare that to a rape.  He forced her to do this horrid thing.  In the movie they made it like a love scene and she was quite willing.  I don't remember whether the rest was fairly close to the book or not, that one drastic change infuriated me!


Oh-oh, Josette!  You've pushed one of my hot buttons!  But since you pose the question, I feel obligated to elaborate.

WARNING: I have strong views on the subject of Francis Ford Coppola's Dracula.  I don't wish to antagonize anyone, so if you're a fan of this movie, please realize that this is my honest opinion and hopefully we can agree to disagree on this one matter.  That caveat aside ...

I, too, heard all the studio (and, alas, critical) hype when this movie came out.  I was immediately skeptical, though, upon hearing/reading the breathless descriptions of the movie by various critics.  What they said indicated to me that the movie diverged sharply from Bram Stoker's novel.  Because of my high regard for the novel, I refused to see the movie for years.  Finally, when it aired on cable a few years ago, my curiosity got the better of me.  I tuned in, but I couldn't make it past the first half hour or so.  I tried a second time some months later with the same results.  Finally, perhaps a year or so later, I forced myself to sit through the entire thing.

To see a favorite book trivialized, mocked, and destroyed was sickening.  The movie generally followed the plot of the novel and the characters had the same names.  :) All similarities end there.  The characters bore no relation to the characters Stoker created.  The entire focus/intent of the book was turned upside-down.  In Stoker's vision, Dracula is a force of horrifying evil who must be destroyed.  Instead of the powerful but aged warrior Stoker describes at the beginning of the novel (and depicted quite well in the Dan Curtis version and to a "T" in the Spanish-made Christopher Lee version), Coppola presents a bizarre-looking freak.  In place of the powerful figure of unmitigated evil who cuts a swath of destruction in England, Coppolla depicts a dandified, lovestruck romantic.  Lucy Westenra is portrayed as a silly, shallow fool in place of Stoker's tragic, estimable woman.  Mina fares no better, nor do any of the other characters.

IMO, the film was a mockery of the greatest vampire novel ever written.

The film's writer appeared on the "Dracula" segment of TLC's great books series a couple of years ago.  From what he said, he must truly have hated Stoker's views to have degraded them so.  Instead of the heroic figures of Arthur, Jonathan Harker and Van Helsing, who valianty fight against the darkness, the Coppolla-movie writer saw them as simplistic Christians (perhaps this was his key problem with the book) who hypocritcally are "gang-banging" Lucy when they stake her.

All I can say is I found this disgusting in the extreme, and as I said earlier, a complete perversion of what Stoker wrote.

I think a major problem was the writer's (and presumably Coppola's) lack of respect or understanding for the whole Victorian era.  They preferred to mock it, while showing the "superiority" of their own "enlightened" 20th century attitudes (this was clear in the interview).

It's not that I'm a narrow-minded purist when it comes to translating literature for the screen.  Of course I hope for a faithful adaptation, but I also think creative use of the source is possible.  I had similar reservations about seeing the Ethan Hawke-Gwenyth Paltrow version of "Great Expectations" a couple of years ago.  I finally saw it on video last year and was pleasantly surprised.  That movie shows how a Victorian-era novel can be updated to incorporate today's sensibilities without destroying all semblance of the author's intent and meaning.  It isn't exactly "Charles Dickens' " Great Expectations, but then it didn't claim to be the most faithful adaptation of Dickens' work, either.  Rather, it was a smart updating and variation on the original.  No one was confused or mislead into thinking that they were viewing Dickens' "original" work just as he wrote it.

Another movie that does an excellent job looking at the Victorian era, with all of its drawbacks and hypocrasies, but while maintaining integrity, through a 20th century lens is "The French Lieutenant's Woman."  (Which, incidentally, very creatively re-imagines the novel in cinematic terms.)  And the upcoming "Possession" (again, with Paltrow) based on the novel by A.S. Byatt should be another interesting look at the Victorian period through the eyes of two 20th-century characters.
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: Craig_Slocum on June 19, 2002, 03:01:04 AM

My favorite vampire movie is a really old, silent film made in 1915, saw it a couple of times on tv, but can't remember the name. It was shown on one of the channels that shows old movies. My favorite creature movie is John Carpenter's The Thing (1982), I saw that movie several times at the theater, bought the video, soundtrack album, and got to meet my favorite actor from the film, David Clennon. He reserved tickets for me to go to a play of his too, and I couldn't go, bummer!
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: Carol on June 19, 2002, 03:08:53 AM
Did you mean "Noserferatu" as the old vampire movie? If so, yes, it is very creepy.
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: CastleBee on June 19, 2002, 07:05:41 PM
Interesting topic and great responses.  As for me, creature-wise, I've always been drawn to the vampires - OH, well who here hasn't been! LOL! And since the main reason for many of us has less to do with horror than sex appeal I will simply say that my vote for the Hottest Vampire of stage and screen award goes to ¢â‚¬¦

[shadow=red,left,300]Frank Langella [/shadow] in the 1979 version of Dracula .  

There was something so mysterious and gorgeous about him in that film and his performance was the inspiration for one of the most vivid and ethereal dreams I ever had.  [nuts]
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: DSFAN4EVER on June 19, 2002, 07:21:39 PM
Hello all...
Ever since I was a little kid I always enjoyed anything to do with vampires, and still do now as an adult.
I enjoy reading "The Vampire chronicles" by Anne Rice.
I also enjoy watching Forever Knight, which comes on right after DS.
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: Raineypark on June 19, 2002, 08:41:33 PM
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.... my vote for the Hottest Vampire of stage and screen award goes to ¢â‚¬¦

[shadow=red,left,300]Frank Langella [/shadow] in the 1979 version of Dracula .  [nuts]



Oh MY, yes!!!!.....Saw him in the Broadway production.....women were swooning all over the place...the boyfriend (now the hubby) was not amused  [lghy] !!

Rainey
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: Dr. Eric Lang on June 19, 2002, 11:52:11 PM
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Oh MY, yes!!!!.....Saw him in the Broadway production.....women were swooning all over the place...the boyfriend (now the hubby) was not amused  [lghy] !!

Rainey


I was lucky enough to see Frank Langella as Dracula in the Broadway production as well. It was different from the movie version he did later; the play took place in the roaring 20's and all the women were dressed as flappers. Also, there was a strong element of comedy in the play as well. I was terribly disappointed in the film version which had nothing to do with the play but instead merely re-told the original story for the umpteenth time. :(
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: Philippe Cordier on June 20, 2002, 03:53:58 AM
I've corrected the spelling of "Coppola" in my post above.  I knew in the back of my mind that I was misspelling it as I was typing, but I was in too much of a rush to check for sure.  Since I was and am very critical of Coppola with respect to this movie, I feel I should at least spell his name right.  :)
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: kuanyin on June 20, 2002, 05:29:52 AM
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 And the upcoming "Possession" (again, with Paltrow) based on the novel by A.S. Byatt should be another interesting look at the Victorian period through the eyes of two 20th-century characters.


Oh, you've mentioned one of my top ten favorite books!I do SO hope they do a good job with it. Paltrow doesn't generally associate herself with poor productions, so that is hopeful. I never did see her "Great Expectations", guess I will have to rent it. There have been several updates on classics that I have really enjoyed, such as "Clueless" and "Ten Things I Hate About You". Thought "O" was alright too.
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: Craig_Slocum on June 20, 2002, 07:54:24 AM
If Noserferatu is the film where the vampire has creepy looking fingers, pointy ears, and comes out of the basement ,then yes Carol, that's the one. I don't think any other vampire films were made in 1915, were they?  ?!?
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: ROBINV on June 20, 2002, 12:10:44 PM
Great question!

My favorite vampire movie is probably SALEM's LOT.  I read the book, which terrified me (I was afraid to look out my windows just in case a vampire was hovering there, calling to me to be let in), so when they made a movie, I was very excited about it.  While SALEM'S LOT wasn't a theatrical flick, I still enjoyed it and found it creepy.  And they brought the child floating outside his brother's window so effectively, I had nightmares!  

I also like the original version of DRACULA.  

Love, Robin
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: Dr. Eric Lang on June 20, 2002, 10:36:07 PM
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If Noserferatu is the film where the vampire has creepy looking fingers, pointy ears, and comes out of the basement ,then yes Carol, that's the one. I don't think any other vampire films were made in 1915, were they?  ?!?


Yes, that sounds like the original Nosferatu. It was made in Germany and the widow of Bram Stoker sued the producers for copyright infringement, and won a court order to have the film destroyed. Prints survived, however, and made the rounds. Some time in the 70's I bought an 8mm version of this print. The film was also re-made in color in the 1980's.
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: Philippe Cordier on June 21, 2002, 04:12:08 AM
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My favorite vampire movie is probably SALEM's LOT.  I read the book, which terrified me (I was afraid to look out my windows just in case a vampire was hovering there, calling to me to be let in), so when they made a movie, I was very excited about it.  While SALEM'S LOT wasn't a theatrical flick, I still enjoyed it and found it creepy.  And they brought the child floating outside his brother's window so effectively, I had nightmares!


I just bought the DVD of "Salem's Lot" about an hour ago since I had a discount coupon at a bookstore that expired today, and it was only $12 to start with.  The only problem is, I don't have a DVD player!  I agree, that scene with the little brother floating outside the window was great!

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Oh, you've mentioned one of my top ten favorite books!I do SO hope they do a good job with it. Paltrow doesn't generally associate herself with poor productions, so that is hopeful. I never did see her "Great Expectations", guess I will have to rent it. There have been several updates on classics that I have really enjoyed, such as "Clueless" and "Ten Things I Hate About You". Thought "O" was alright too.


"O"?  I think I've heard of "The Story of O" ...

Just so as not to mislead anyone,  "Possession" is not about demonic possession  :o or anything Exorcist-like.

Kuanyin: The book was highly recommended to me, and I've had a copy for several years but haven't read it yet.  A guy used to come into work shaking from excitement from reading it.  Jeremy Northam is costarring with Gwenyth; he replaced Ralph Fiennes.  The release date has changed several times and is now scheduled for limited release on August 30.
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Post by: Carol on June 21, 2002, 04:36:30 AM
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I just bought the DVD of "Salem's Lot" about an hour ago since I had a discount coupon at a bookstore that expired today, and it was only $12 to start with.  The only problem is, I don't have a DVD player!
 

Don't feel bad, Robin. I ordered the DS DVD and I don't have a DVD player either! DVD's are the thing of the future so I might as well start.
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Post by: Raineypark on June 21, 2002, 04:42:34 AM
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And the upcoming "Possession" (again, with Paltrow) based on the novel by A.S. Byatt should be another interesting look at the Victorian period through the eyes of two 20th-century characters.


You must be a more hopeful person than I, Vlad, if you think there's a chance in hell that a film version of "Possession" will do the book justice.  Have you ever seen the appalling travesty they made out of "Angels and Insects"?   What a shame that even a writer of Byatt's genius isn't immune to the siren call of movie-money.  Her novels are so complicated in structure,  it simply isn't possible to do them justice within the constraints of film.....I can never understand what drives people to even TRY!!  

I frequently wish there was a law prohibiting the remaking of literary works into motion pictures.  If you want to make films, you should be required to think up your own damned stories!!!

Rainey....obviously in curmudgeon mode tonight.  :P
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Post by: Luciaphile on June 21, 2002, 10:28:02 PM
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You must be a more hopeful person than I, Vlad, if you think there's a chance in hell that a film version of "Possession" will do the book justice.  Have you ever seen the appalling travesty they made out of "Angels and Insects"?   What a shame that even a writer of Byatt's genius isn't immune to the siren call of movie-money.  Her novels are so complicated in structure,  it simply isn't possible to do them justice within the constraints of film.....I can never understand what drives people to even TRY!!  


I fear I'm not hopeful either.  And this is considering that Jennifer Ehle is in the film.  It's just one of those books that's too complicated and has so many layers that a film adaptation is almost guaranteed to blow chunks . . .

It's one of my all time favorite novels too  :'(

Luciaphil
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Post by: Raineypark on June 21, 2002, 11:31:18 PM
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It's one of my all time favorite novels too  :'(


You and I seem to have very similar tastes in literature, Luciaphil.  I don't know another person who has actually READ "Possession"....which doesn't say much for MY circle, as it took the 'Booker' prize.  ::)

But I fear we're drifting dangerously off topic!!

Rainey
Title: Re: Vampire/creature movies?
Post by: Bj on June 22, 2002, 09:05:39 AM
One movie that has always stuck with me is "Vampire" from '79 starring Richard Lynch as Prince Anton Voytek.  That scene where he digs his way out of his grave with an unholy shriek!  :o   He has a natural mug to play the undead, ranks right up there with Frid.
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Post by: Daphne on June 22, 2002, 08:06:52 PM
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I frequently wish there was a law prohibiting the remaking of literary works into motion pictures.  If you want to make films, you should be required to think up your own damned stories!!!


LMAO! [hello] I agree!!! Hollywood has run out of original ideas....they re-make books, tv shows, and do 2nd and 3rd and 4th versions of movies. Oyy *holds head* No one is creative enough to come up with an original idea, and yet there are soooo many books published each year.....hmmm? Think that tells us something? Maybe Hollywood is like Collinwood......if you go there, nothing makes sense anymore and it somehow makes you forget how to think....LOL ;)
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Post by: Philippe Cordier on June 25, 2002, 02:51:05 AM
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You must be a more hopeful person than I, Vlad, if you think there's a chance in hell that a film version of "Possession" will do the book justice.


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I'm usually disappointed in movie adaptations of books, too, whether literary or not.  Some you just have to enjoy on their own terms ... I read an essay by John Fowles and he was pleased with the film "interpretation" of his novel "The French Lieutenant's Woman," also a layered and complex novel, despite the fact that the movie completely invented the modern storyline of a 20th century film crew making a movie of The French Lieutenant's Woman.  Sometimes the right mixture of talent and creativity comes together and produces something wonderful, but I'm right behind you in lamenting how seldom this happens.  Just don't get me started on the subject of remakes ...

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obviously in curmudgeon mode tonight.  :P


I'll say!  Whew!
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