271
Caption This! - Vicki's Arrival-Burke's Revenge-Matthew Morgan-Introducing Josette / Re: Episode #0063
« on: April 16, 2024, 11:22:05 PM »
Good Ones, dom and McTrooper!!
This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.
.... But first up, here's how things play in the 94 minute version of the film (slowed down so as to better appreciate it):
...
And something that I discovered after having slowed down the footage in the film - and something that only makes sense - but when it came to some shots with the real horse near Strack, a stunt double was used -
(Click here for a 1280X720 version)
- that might very well have been Alex Stevens...
Angelique, having swiped Barnabas' toy soldier, stands in the drawing room. She questions Jeremiah about the toy, which he, amused, identifies as "a member of the Regiment," one of his nephew, Barnabas', favorite toys as a child.
OK, now we'll get back to any differences in the film in the dialogue, the descriptions, and the directions for Scenes 140 through 147:
First off, Scene 140 does not initially take place in the Gallery, it takes place in the Library, and then a sort of Scene 140A takes place in the Gallery (originally DC had some notes about the scene but for some reason he erased them). After Tracy leaves in Scene 139(A) to go up to bed, things start off with Quentin leaving the Card Room and going into the Library. Similar to the script, he walks to the window and looks out -
- but after sitting down, rather than opening his book, he looks over at the clock -
- also similar to the script, though the time (which is hard to decipher) is definitely much earlier than one-thirty - then he simply sits staring into space as the camera -
- moves in to a close-up - but through all of this Quentin does not pour himself a brandy and obviously doesn't drink it. However, from there things do indeed move to the Gallery with an opening shot of Angelique's portrait -
- as the camera pulls away from it, panning over to where Quentin stands looking at it -
- for several moments before turning to move toward the Master Bedroom, similiar to what's scripted, but again, there's no brandy involved, nor is there any sign of the book.
Scene 141 is very close to what's scripted except for the fact that the camera doesn't truck in on a close-up of Quentin. The entire scene is shot with Tracy asleep in the foreground -
- and Quentin coming in no further than the doorway.
Scene 142 is not in the film - or at least not in the film as it currently stands because it isn't on the list of scenes that weren't recovered. And DC's script has a notation that it would be shot using a low angle taken from the stairs.
We do see the opening of Scene 143, up to and including that long moment while Quentin -
- stares up - however, everything beyond that point in Scene 143 is missing from the film, and is indeed on the list of unrecovered footage - and one thing that's interesting is how abruptly the background music ends before the film switches to the next scene that is in the film - but more on that in a later post.
Then just as with the latter part of Scene 143, Scene 144 is not in the film and is on the list of unrecovered footage.
But Scene 145 was actually used in the film, as the first part of Quentin's dream on his first night at Collinwood. However, the scene doesn't begin as scripted because there are no shots of the silhouette of a man on horseback galloping out of a heavy bank of fog - and neither do we see the horse rear on its hind legs as we recognize the rider as Charles Collins - nor does he slash his riding crop into camera as he screams Monday's quote. In fact, what we do see, as can be seen in Monday's capture -
- is Strack running down the hill from the cemetery as Charles pursues him on horseback and actually screams "You killed her! You killed Angelique, Strack!" Also, there is no struggling by Strack to avoid the slashing crop because almost immediately he trips, falls and rolls down the hill - and when Strack sees that the horse is almost on top of him, he cries out "No!" - and in the 94 minute film's version of the scene, all we see from then on is a few brief glimpses of Charles atop his horse as he appears to be having the horse trample Strack as Strack cries out and Charles orders his horse with "Kill! Kill!" until finally Charles simply looks down to the ground and Strack makes his last movement until he lays dead. But in the 97 and 129 minute versions of the film, much more is seen and heard. For example, we see much more of Strack trying to protect himself with his hands as the horse's hooves come down on him again and again, causing his hands and face to become increasingly bloody - and Charles also cries out "Die! Die!" as he has the horse trample Strack. But the nice thing, if "nice" is the right word for it, is much of the footage missing from the 94 minute version of the film is seen in the various trailers, and I've decided to share three versions varying from less explicit to most explicit:
The less explicit video, taken from a 30 second TV spot:
And each of the three video files has been deliberately put is slow motion so as to better see what's happening.
A more explicit video, taken from a 1 minute trailer:
And the most explicit and the best of the three, taken from a 2 minute trailer:
The trampling hooves are much more explicit in this one. And I have to say that I love the story about how a crew member actually knelt down by Thayer David and placed the horse hooves by hand!
And when it comes to Scene 146, in the 94 minute version of the film, it begins with Angelique already standing with outstretched arms and Charles walks up a hill to her -
- but in the 97 minute version of the film, after Strack is dead, Charles turns to look up the hill and then turns his horse around and gallops up - things then switch to Angelique standing outside the cemetery gate, similar to this -
- publicity still, whereupon Charles stops the horse as he nears her, he dismounts, and it isn't until after all that that Angelique holds her arms out to him. Apparently all of that was simply cut for time rather than sexuality or gore...
And finally, Scene 147 is also not in any version of the film because it's also on the list of unrecovered footage.
(ADMIN: Edited to add videos and remove animated GIFs)
Moving on to the next sequence (using Grayson's script because once again DC didn't change the names):
CUT TO:
140 INT - GALLERY - NIGHT 140
It is later. Quentin stands at the window, his
back to the room. Turning, he walks to the mantel.
The clock reads one-thirty. he pours himself a
brandy, crosses to his chair, picks up the book
again. Throughout all of this, the portrait of
Angelique is in the SHOT. Finally, finishing the
brandy, he puts the book down and crosses to the
Master Bedroom.
141 INT - MASTER BEDROOM - NIGHT 141
With Tracy asleep in the F.G., Quentin ENTERS THE
SHOT. TRUCK IN ON HIS CLOSE-UP as he stands in
the doorway, obviously not wanting to go to bed.
He turns, leaves the room, closes the door softly
behind him.
142 INT - SECOND FLOOR CORRIDOR - NIGHT 142
As Quentin walks TOWARD CAMERA. He approaches the
stairs leading to the tower. Stopping at the foot
of the stairs, he looks up.
143 QUENTIN - HIGH ANGLE 143
SEEN from third floor as he looks TOWARD CAMERA. HOLD
FOR A LONG MOMENT until it seems he is about to start
up the stairs. Instead, he turns and practically runs
down the stairs to the first floor and EXITS THE SHOT.
HOLD ON EMPTY CORRIDOR until the SOUND OF THE FRONT
DOOR can be heard OPENING AND CLOSING O.S.
144 EXT - COUNTRYSIDE - NIGHT 144
as Quentin walks through the night in an effort to
purge himself of the horrible temptations that are
gnawing at his soul. He comes to a fallen tree, where
he stops for a moment and sits. SLOWLY TRUCK IN ON
HIM as the SOUND OF THUNDERING HOOF BEATS can be
HEARD O.S. As we end up on a TIGHT SHOT OF HIS EYES.
CUT TO:
145 EXT - COUNTRYSIDE - 1800 - NIGHT 145
SUBCONSCIOUS MEMORY CUT
Suddenly, out of a heavy bank of fog gallops a man
on horseback. Seen in silhouette only, his cape flies
in the wind as he charges TOWARD CAMERA. The horse
rears on its hind legs and we recognize the rider as
Charles Collins. He slashes his riding crop INTO
CAMERA as he SCREAMS:
And that's when today's quote -Page 69/Scene 145 - Charles: 'You killed her, Strack! You killed her!'
- comes up, followed in the script by:
STRACK
TRASK- CHARLES' P.O.V. - HAND HELD
Strack
AsTraskstruggles to avoid the slashing crop. He
trips and falls to the ground as the horse rears again
and again, stomping to death the screamingTrask.
Strack
WIDE ANGLE
Strack
Trasklies dead as Charles sits on his horse staring
down at him. Finally, he looks up and turns TOWARD
CAMERA.
146 FOG-SHROUDED - COUNTRYSIDE - CHARLES' P.O.V. 146
HOLD ON empty countryside, then TRUCK IN as the ghost-
like figure of Angelique walks out of the fog TOWARD
CAMERA. Charles ENTERS THE SHOT and goes into her
arms.
CUT TO:
147 EXT - COUNTRYSIDE - 1971 - NIGHT - NORMAL COLOR 147
QUENTIN - EXTREME CLOSE-UP
as his eyes fill the screen, he stares blankly INTO
CAMERA. SLOWLY WIDEN as he rises and PAN WITH HIM,
revealing the massive silhouette of Collinwood in
the distance.
And next time we'll get into how differently things actually play in the film...
...
- and that's the actual end of Scene 139 (or perhaps a Scene 139A) - and it's also the last bit of happiness between Quentin and Tracy because things are about to go downhill sooner rather than later...
Which leads us to tomorrow when we'll be getting into a whole load of scripted material, much of which is actually handled very differently in the film. But more on that then...
I forgot to mention that all those subtitles and all the closed captioning come from Scene 139A, and even though there's no such scene as that in the script, it is indicated on that call sheet that I came across for April 5, 1971:...
(Click here for a 880X910 version)
...
And also, during the first time around for this slideshow I forgot to point out specifically that given their inclusion on the call sheet, obviously Scenes 137, 139 & 139A were all shot on April 5th...
...
Parlor - Flora explains to Melanie--we didn't want to lock the girl up, but if we hadn't come in at just the right minute, Justin would have killer her--he wasn't being himself--we had to lock her up, or she'd have gone to the police--don't you understand?--they would have taken Justin from us--we didn't tell you about it because we knew how much you loved Justin. You shouldn't have locked Stella up! cries Melanie. What were we to do? asks Flora--we were so frightened--try to understand. I do, says Melanie--but it's wrong. We know that, Julia assures her.But you just put the gag back in her mouth, locked her in there again! protests Melanie. Do you want the police to be here tomorrow, the day of her father's burial? asks Julia. They can do nothing to Papa now! says Melanie. They can to Flora, and to me, Julia reminds her (busy ladies--burying the dead Trask, kidnapping Stella). Yes, says Flora, we're guilty of holding her captive. Her brother will never accept our actions, says Julia. They shouldn't, says Flora, we both know that--and she begins to cry, upsetting Melanie, who puts an arm around her, assuring her, I do understand, except you knew you couldn't go on keeping Stella in the tower room. We've tried to think of what to do, says Julia. You must do something now, says Melanie--her brother was here yesterday, and I promised I would help--please do something now--let her go, ask her not to tell. We will do something, vows Flora, after the funeral. You will let her go? queries Julia. Somehow, some way, says Flora--I don't know how, but we will--all I can think of now is poor Justin--she wipes her nose with a handkerchief. I know, Mother, says Melanie, but after the funeral, you must set her free! Flora looks at Julia, who regards her solemnly.