466
Caption This! - Vicki's Arrival-Burke's Revenge-Matthew Morgan-Introducing Josette / Re: Episode #0062
« on: March 31, 2024, 11:51:33 PM »
Love it!!
This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.
Next up is something that appeared in Flip Magazine's Curse of Dark Shadows article (and you can see that versionherein that post), but in this post I'm sharing the version that appeared in the Daytime TV article:
(Click here for a 702X924 version)
The Flip caption for it reads: "Angelique is executed in the 19th
century for her adultery with
Charles Collins."
And the Daytime TV caption reads: "Flashback segment of film shows Angelique was
hung as adulteress and witch in 19th century."
And you'll note that the henchmen who share the platform with Angelique in the photo are the same two who share it with her in the film, as today's first scrren capture shows:
However, they are not the same two who share the platform with her in this still:
(Click here for a 467X700 version)
And what's most fascinating about the two sets of men is that footage of both sets exists. As I've shown, the first set appears in the film in several three shots atop the platform, but if you're observant, you'll notice that the second set also appears in the film as well as in footage that appear in some of the NoDS trailers -
- here's the footage from the trailers -
- but note that there's a jump cut in the film -
- more than likely so as not to show the henchman on the left's face, which no doubt would have had people in the audience saying, "Hey, how did he get up there when it was a different guy earlier?"
It's never quite clear to me precisely what the relationship between Angelique and Sarah is all about. Sarah seems to adore Angelique and she seems to be the only one in the house other than Quentin that Angelique demonstrates any kind of tolerance let alone affection for. Is this another DS example of a young child being bewitched? Or is there more to it than that? Is Angelique doing the prep work for the 1970's?
Honestly, I've never suspected anything underhanded on the part of Angelique when it comes to her relationship with Sarah. It just seems that for one reason of another they hit it off. Even though we would presume children had to exist in the Collins family (or else Mrs. Stoddard would have never come to exist a couple generations later), we don't see or hear about them. Perhaps they were off at boarding school (like Gabriel's children on the daytime show)? Who knows? But quite possibly Sarah was the lone child in the house and lonely. Angelique may have noticed that, felt sympathy for her, and befriended Sarah for that reason and they grew close. It's one theory...
My thing has always been to wonder what happened to Angelique after Sarah died and before Carlotta realized she was Sarah's reincarnation? Plus, there had to be some period between Sarah's death and Carlotta's birth when there was presumably no one around to keep Angelique's spirit around. Or was there some other reincarnation around that we're completely unaware of? And another thing, just how did Angelique's locket go from being in Sarah's possession to Carlotta's?
So many questions? So many subjects for fan fiction...
And many people might say, "Well, duh!" and roll their eyes but I have to confess that it wasn't until this time around that it hit me that the hair seen behind Angelique's head in the photo I shared in Reply #452...
...belongs to either Stack's henchman or Charles. Though, to be truthful, I don't even know if I paid much attention that that was a glimpse of a head of hair behind Angelique's head - and the question of who it might be is due to the fact that the one standing behind Angelique in the early part of the scene is Strack's henchmen -
- before Charles joins him -
- as can be seen in today's screen capture. If the still was in color, perhaps the ID would be clearer if there was a glimpse of the henchman's green jacket...
...
This screen capture that I'd posted in the "And Now The Return of Another New Slideshow (Sort of) [**Now featuring alternate versions..." topic might complicate matters because -
- for one, it makes it seem as if the photographer took the still from an angle somewhat more to his left and/or David Selby had been slightly higher or the photographer stood higher, the one behind Angelique in the still would have been Charles - but it introduces a third possibility of the person who is partially seen behind Angelique. What's interesting about that person, though, is presumably it's another of Strack's henchmen, but when we saw Scene 85 only two henchmen entered the Tower Room with Strack, so where was the third at that time, just standing outside the room while all the commotion was going on inside?
...
(Click here for a 700X730 version)
- a rare still that for years I thought I owned in its entirety, that is until the complete version was shared in the 2004 NY Fest Program:
(Click here for a 941X730 version)
A friend whose involvement in DS fandom precedes mine by several years told me that in the Shadowcon days, this still was pretty common. It gradually disappeared until it was unearthed around the time that you found it.
Barnabas paces the drawing room. Edward comes in and asks if Laura has come downstairs, then assures him that the children are safely hidden from her. I should have known she was plotting something, he says--why else to come back to Collinwood?--doing something to the children would hurt me the most--Laura can look for them, but she won't find them. She has unusual powers at her command, warns Barnabas. I can't buy that, says Edward--she's disturbed and dangerous, but supernatural powers?--absurd! Take me word for it, says Barn, and be prepared--her powers are weakening, but she's desperate and has little time and will use what powers she has to communicate with the children. How, if she doesn't know where they are? asks Edward. Take precautions, cautions Barn--no fire or flames anywhere this evening--extinguish everything, but use electricity wherever possible. Absurd, insists Edward, but allows Barnabas to do what he suggested.
Moving along with Scene 126 and beyond (this time using DC's script):
Angelique looks down at Charles.
THE GROUP - ANGELIQUE'S P.OV.
ZOOM IN TO CLOSE-UP OF CHARLES as he looks up at her.
WIDE ANGLE
With the house in the B.G., ZOOM IN TO THE UPSTAIRS
WINDOW OF SARAH'S ROOM, her face is pressed against
the glass, her eyes wide with fear.
127 INT - SARAH'S ROOM - DAY 127
THROUGH THE WINDOW - SARAH'S P.O.V.
SLOW ZOOM IN ON ANGELIQUE. Although her lips are not
moving, we hear her voice.
And that's when today's first quote -Page 64/Scene 127 - Angelique's Voice: 'I have lost him, but I will have him again...you will help me, Sarah...'
- is scripted to come up, followed in the script by:
128 SARAH - EXTREME CLOSE-UP 128
And that's when today's second quote -Page 64/Scene 128 - Angelique's Voice: 'You will know when the time comes...for it is your love that will keep me alive...'
- is scripted to come up.
And when it comes to differences in the dialogue, there aren't any because the quotes are delivered in the film exactly as scripted. But when it comes to where those quoted lines are actually delivered, as well as the differences in the directions and the descriptions, so, so much is different in the film than it is in the script. To begin with, as can be seen in the following capture -
- the only time we see Charles look up at Angelique during what's been covered recently is after the camera pans Gabriel, Strack and reaches Charles in Scene 126 as Strack wraps up saying "until your spirit returns to the pits of darkness forevermore" - and considering that Angelique's quote for the 24th was dropped and Strack's reworked quote for the 25th was moved to Scene 129, right after we see Charles look up at Angelique in Scene 126, as can be seen in today's first capture -
- things cut immediately to Angelique looking down at Charles - however, after that, we don't see the group from her P.O.V. (and yes, in the script it's written as "P.OV."), we don't see a zoom in to a close-up of Charles as he looks up at her, and we don't see all that DC has crossed out in his script - and the reason behind all that is that, while DC has a note in his script that says there's a long lens shot of Angelique as she looks down, and that can definitely be seen in today's first capture above, the note then goes on to say that Angelique "looks up to heaven", but that doesn't happen because, as can be seen in the following capture -
- immediately after looking down, Angelique actually looks over toward Sarah's window - and while DC also has a note that the wide angle shot and zoom in on Collinwood that he crossed out in his script would be replaced buy an Angelique's P.O.V. shot of the house without any zoom, that note is also crossed out in his script and the shot doesn't take place because what we actually see immediately after Angelique looks over is simply a shot of Sarah in her room, holding her doll -
- and looking out the window. However, what's interesting about all that is that Angelique's quote from Scene 127 actually plays over what we see of Charles looking up at Angelique and her looking down at him ("I have lost him"), looking over toward Sarah's window ("but I will have him again..."), and Sarah looking out the window ("you will help me, Sarah..."). Then, when things move to Scene 127, we do indeed see the slow zoom in on Angelique through the window and from Sarah's P.O.V. -
- but the beginning of the quote from Scene 128 plays over that part of Scene 127 ("You will know when the time comes...for it is your love"), while only the last part ("that will keep me alive") plays over the close-up of Sarah -
- from Scene 128 as she nods her understanding of what Angelique is somehow telling her.