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Title: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: TNickey2003 on January 10, 2006, 09:51:20 PM
New poll for DS forums.
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: BuzzH on January 10, 2006, 09:59:14 PM
Collinwood would be choice #1, Blair House #2.
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: arashi on January 10, 2006, 11:36:42 PM
The abandoned mill used by Petofi in 1897, pretty nice digs, I've always been interested in living in a house that wasn't traditionally a house. Love the era, and the coolest people were always just dropping by.
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: coterie-mc on January 10, 2006, 11:54:15 PM
1795 Old House...just as long as Abrigale isn't living there LOL
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: Barnabas'sBride on January 11, 2006, 02:59:01 AM
I love both Collinwood and the Old House. Collinwood is the place I would love to explore, but the Old House is the one I would love to own and live in - restored or original in 1795.

I wouldn't mind having the tower room for a bedroom. Nice view. :)
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: Philippe Cordier on January 11, 2006, 09:19:41 AM
Besides the ones I voted for (Collinwood and the Old House, present day, to which I belatedly add the house by the sea and the old mill), the one I thought of right away that isn't on the list:  Rose Cottage.

Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: Janet the Wicked on January 11, 2006, 11:05:59 AM
The Evans cottage. Lotsa light to paint by.
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: nedstuart on January 11, 2006, 05:18:54 PM
The groovy place to live in Collinsport I think would be Roxanne & Sebatian's place. They have the cool lights and I think a table that had a hand on it as well. All the comforts of home that you can get. LOL.

But to seriously answer I would like to live in Collinwood in 1840 so that I could just open a door and see what was going on in parallel time periods.
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: Gothick on January 11, 2006, 08:42:26 PM
Adam's hiding place for Carolyn was actually a root cellar.  I found the ruin of one of these while exploring an island in the Boston harbor last Spring with some friends.

There was a fishing shack that wound up going up in flames in 1967; it was meant to be on or adjacent to the estate grounds, I believe.  There was also an abandoned hut near the beach where Angelique kept Barnabas a prisoner for a couple of days in 1968.

G.
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: Philippe Cordier on January 12, 2006, 06:08:05 AM
OK, no longer talking about places where I'd personally like to live, but here are a couple of pretty spacious - but spooky - homes:

- Dr. Lang's house, where Adam was created

- the bizarre home of painter Charles Delaware Tate

I mentioned Rose Cottage from 1849 ... but what I really loved was Flora Collins' home.  My memory is hazy after only a few years I'm afraid, as in another thread where I mistakenly thought that Daphne Harridge and the children were calling back Quentin, when it was Gerard.  So I'm not sure if Flora's home was Rose Cottage, but I think these were two different places.  I remember something about "the old Magruder place," whence I developed the theory that Flora Collins was born Flora Magruder.  I loved the interiors of that home (didn't Desmond live there, too) but can't remember if we ever saw the exterior.  Does anyone remember seeing the exterior?
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: MagnusTrask on January 12, 2006, 06:49:30 AM
The abandoned mill used by Petofi in 1897, pretty nice digs, I've always been interested in living in a house that wasn't traditionally a house. Love the era, and the coolest people were always just dropping by.

i like old disused fire houses. 
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: BuzzH on January 12, 2006, 03:39:51 PM
So I'm not sure if Flora's home was Rose Cottage, but I think these were two different places.  I remember something about "the old Magruder place," whence I developed the theory that Flora Collins was born Flora Magruder.  I loved the interiors of that home (didn't Desmond live there, too) but can't remember if we ever saw the exterior.  Does anyone remember seeing the exterior?

It was Rose Cottage and yes, Desmond lived there as well.  ;)  They would show the exterior quite often.
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: BuzzH on January 12, 2006, 03:42:15 PM
i like old disused fire houses. 

Oh me too!  I LOVED the house they used for The Real World/Boston as it was a restored firehouse.  ;)
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: AndreDuPres on January 12, 2006, 05:59:35 PM
What about Angelique's house on Little Windward Island?  I always liked the place--exterior and interior.  Rose Cottage is another good choice, but I had to pick Prof. Stokes' house.  It's so tiny and comfortable looking.
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: arashi on January 12, 2006, 10:46:41 PM
i like old disused fire houses.

Now that would be a cool place to live in!
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: Philippe Cordier on January 13, 2006, 09:44:33 AM
When I mentioned the "bizarre home of Charles Delaware Tate," I meant, of course, his home in 1970 (or whenever the present day story line was taking place).

Although my memory of a lot of specifics about storylines is fading alarmingly, my reference to "1849" was a typo for "1840."


So I'm not sure if Flora's home was Rose Cottage, but I think these were two different places.  I remember something about "the old Magruder place," whence I developed the theory that Flora Collins was born Flora Magruder.  I loved the interiors of that home (didn't Desmond live there, too) but can't remember if we ever saw the exterior.  Does anyone remember seeing the exterior?

It was Rose Cottage and yes, Desmond lived there as well.  ;)  They would show the exterior quite often.

Thanks for helping refresh my memory.  I wish I could see these episodes again, but my tapes are in storage.  I have about 3 tapes with me in my apartment, and I popped one in late last night.  In an amazing coincidence, considering what I had posted above about Rose Cottage and "the old Magruder place", the second episode on my tape (which I haven't viewed in at least a couple of years!) was the one were Barnabas discovers where/what Rose Cottage is - he tells Julia, quote, "it's the old Magruder house".

And yes, I clearly remember the exterior of the house, with its white pillars.  But I didn't remember that it was Flora and Desmond's home.  Wish I could put it all together in my mind, but I'd just have to see this entire sequence again.  Something to look forward to at a future date!  (This factored into my conclusion that Flora was a Magruder who married a Collins.  But another explanation for  them living in a house Barnabas refers to in the present day as the "old Magruder house" could be that it was sold to another family (named Magruder) sometime after the events of 1840.  Nevertheless, I do find it curious that Flora Collins is regarded by DS fandom to have been a blood Collins.  Not too likely, since Desmond's last name is Collins.  Unless she bore him out of wedlock.

I was going to come back here today and mention the house on Little Windward Island, though Andre DuPres has done so.

I imagined that house so vividly in my mind because I worked on a story that I never finished that's set there.  I could not accept the exterior shots of the house as truly being Angelique and Sky's home, which the exterior shots showed as a shabby wood shack.  No way!  Somehow, someone goofed and got the wrong shots!
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: Connie on January 13, 2006, 10:00:14 AM
Wyncliff
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: jeffreywj777 on January 13, 2006, 02:41:58 PM
Had anyone mentioned the old caretaker's cottage? Quite popular with psychopaths and pheonix's.
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: BuzzH on January 13, 2006, 03:54:45 PM
Nevertheless, I do find it curious that Flora Collins is regarded by DS fandom to have been a blood Collins.  Not too likely, since Desmond's last name is Collins.  Unless she bore him out of wedlock.

I can't speak for all Shadowphiles, but I've always considered Flora to be an in-law by the mere fact she had a son.  And he was a cousin of Quentins...wonder who her husband was....we never hear about another brother for Quentin and Gabrial.  And the fact that Daniel only had a sister (Millicent) means her husband couldn't have been a cousin to them/nephew to Daniel.  Interesting...

One thing I wonder about her name though is, was she named after Jonathan's mother Flora Frid as a sort of 'tongue-in-cheek' thing by DCP?!  ;)
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 13, 2006, 08:00:19 PM
I could not accept the exterior shots of the house as truly being Angelique and Sky's home, which the exterior shots showed as a shabby wood shack.

If this is an example of a shabby wood shack:

(http://www.dsboards.com/images/ds_923-886.jpg)

then sign me up to move into one NOW!  [b003]
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: Raineypark on January 13, 2006, 08:17:59 PM
Well, if this was in the Hamptons, the owners would refer to it as " our little place out east....."

[vryevl].....snort!!
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: Philippe Cordier on January 14, 2006, 03:32:25 AM
I can't speak for all Shadowphiles, but I've always considered Flora to be an in-law by the mere fact she had a son.  And he was a cousin of Quentins...wonder who her husband was....we never hear about another brother for Quentin and Gabrial.  And the fact that Daniel only had a sister (Millicent) means her husband couldn't have been a cousin to them/nephew to Daniel.  Interesting...

You're the only other person I know of who made that observation.  I remember posting about it in the past but I don't recall anyone commenting on what I said.  I checked my copy of the DS FAQ recently, and they have a family tree showing Flora Collins AS a Collins (i.e. by birth, not marriage).

I'm enjoying your further speculations but I don't remember the other family connections that well.

 ;D

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One thing I wonder about her name though is, was she named after Jonathan's mother Flora Frid as a sort of 'tongue-in-cheek' thing by DCP?!  ;)

I was wondering the same thing after reading the article about the Frid family posted elsewhere.   :)


Regarding my comment about Sky and Angelique's home on Little Windward Island, MB remarked:

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If this is an example of a shabby wood shack

That is NOT what I remember.   [confused5]  Are you trying to drive my mind to distraction?   >:(  Remember those scenes when Jeb Hawkes is stalking the house when Carolyn is inside, and leaves a track of Leviathan footprints?  They showed the exterior of the house then, and it was what I would describe as a "shabby wood shack" (well, I may have taken some poetic license ...).

What you show, though is MUCH closer to how I envisioned the house.  But I don't remember seeing it that way on the show.
 [confused_ani]
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: Amy Jennings Fan on January 14, 2006, 08:48:50 PM
I'd  like to live in Matthew Morgan's cottage in the woods.
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: petofi on January 14, 2006, 11:13:23 PM
The abandoned mill used by Petofi in 1897, pretty nice digs, I've always been interested in living in a house that wasn't traditionally a house. Love the era, and the coolest people were always just dropping by.

So true, Arashi - and with a interior decorator like Aristede, the place always looked fashionably gothic!  8)


Petofi
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: Philippe Cordier on January 14, 2006, 11:42:34 PM
Ooo, thanks for posting that picture, petofi - and for making it downloadable!  :D

Not to drive this into the ground, but that picture MB posted looks very similar to Rose Cottage.

I've been watching my tape with some of the episodes featureing Rose Cottage.  Was interested to hear Barnabas say "it's on Cumberland Road, just outside Collinsport."

 ;D



Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 15, 2006, 01:48:40 AM
Not to drive this into the ground, but that picture MB posted looks very similar to Rose Cottage.

Doesn't it though. Someone at DS definitely had a love of Greek Revival because the Old House, Rose Cottage and Rumson House are all in that style. However, the establishing shots used for the Old House and Rumson House were actual houses - the establishing shots for Rose Cottage were supposedly just the dollhouse disguised to look as if it was an actual house out in the woods.  :D
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: arashi on January 15, 2006, 07:19:52 AM
So true, Arashi - and with a interior decorator like Aristede, the place always looked fashionably gothic!

It'd be real fun around Halloween!  >:D
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: BuzzH on January 15, 2006, 11:36:22 PM
Someone at DS definitely had a love of Greek Revival because the Old House, Rose Cottage and Rumson House are all in that style.

This really doesn't apply to the Old House because that house was discovered by Dan Curtis when they were up at Lyndhurst shooting SOMETHING, can't remember what, and he got bored and took a walk through the woods.  When he found Spratt House (the Old House) he ran back to get the photographer and had several pics taken w/the thought that *somehow* they'd find a use for them on the show.   :)  Too bad the thing burned down in 1970 as I'd LOVE to see it!   :'(
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: petofi on January 16, 2006, 01:21:26 AM
Not to drive this into the ground, but that picture MB posted looks very similar to Rose Cottage.

Doesn't it though. Someone at DS definitely had a love of Greek Revival because the Old House, Rose Cottage and Rumson House are all in that style. However, the establishing shots used for the Old House and Rumson House were actual houses - the establishing shots for Rose Cottage were supposedly just the dollhouse disguised to look as if it was an actual house out in the woods.  :D

Is this Rose Cottage?  Sure looks like a doll house to me.

Petofi
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 16, 2006, 01:54:58 AM
This really doesn't apply to the Old House because that house was discovered by Dan Curtis when they were up at Lyndhurst

Why would you say it really doesn't apply? DC loved the style of Spratt House (so much so that he was determined to find a use for it on the show) - and he was definitely someone at DS.  [wink2]

Is this Rose Cottage? Sure looks like a doll house to me.

Yup - that's Rose Cottage.  :)
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: Gothick on January 16, 2006, 02:00:05 AM
Petofi, that's a fabulous picture of the Petofi Mill set!  Thanks for sharing it!

Best wishes,

Gothick
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: petofi on January 16, 2006, 11:13:49 PM
Petofi, that's a fabulous picture of the Petofi Mill set!  Thanks for sharing it!

Thanks, I have a snapshot feature on my computer dvd player, so I just pulled one of the dvds of the Petofi storyline, around the time that Barnabas is being held hostage in the mill.  I have always had a fascination for the sets of DS and the irreplaceable ambiance that they always provided to the show.  Kudos to Sy Tomashoff and the fantastic set decorators and lighting folk that made it all possible.

Petofi
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: Philippe Cordier on January 17, 2006, 09:17:50 AM
I have always had a fascination for the sets of DS and the irreplaceable ambiance that they always provided to the show.  Kudos to Sy Tomashoff and the fantastic set decorators and lighting folk that made it all possible.


There were some beautiful sets.  One I really loved, which could be added to this thread, I haven't mentioned yet because I can't think of what it's called.  It's the place where Barnabas hides out when he travels to 1897 - I don't have an episode guide to consult (I tried an online summary, but it wasn't mentioned), but I thought it was connected to a church, something like a parsonage or manse.  Anyway, the colors, lighting, and set all worked together beautifully.  It was such a neat idea to have Barnabas living there.

Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: MagnusTrask on January 17, 2006, 09:50:11 AM
Where he hides out after being found out as a vampire in 1897 is a different story.   The cave is clearly big pieces of dark crumpled-up paper stuck onto the walls.   Yet, even this cheapest of all sets works if you don't stop to think about it.
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: BuzzH on January 17, 2006, 05:53:41 PM
This really doesn't apply to the Old House because that house was discovered by Dan Curtis when they were up at Lyndhurst

Why would you say it really doesn't apply? DC loved the style of Spratt House (so much so that he was determined to find a use for it on the show) - and he was definitely someone at DS.  [wink2]

Well, okay, I guess what I meant was, it wasn't JUST because the house was the style it was, Greek Revival or whatever it was.  The impression I got when I heard this tale was that the main thing that appealed to DC about Spratt House was that it was abandoned and creepy looking.  It could have been a Victorian or Gothic Revival and he still would have had it photographed.  ;)  I'm sure DC, or someone at DS, liked the style of these houses, since there are at least 3 of them on here, but as for the Old House, I think that was a coincidence that it was the same style as Rumson House and Rose Cottage.    8)
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: petofi on January 18, 2006, 04:35:47 AM
Where he hides out after being found out as a vampire in 1897 is a different story.   The cave is clearly big pieces of dark crumpled-up paper stuck onto the walls.   Yet, even this cheapest of all sets works if you don't stop to think about it.

Yes, its true, the crumpled construction paper cave really calls upon the imagination, and I'm sure it looked pretty tacky without lights to provide the shadowing we see during episodes.  That said, I remember thinking how cool that set was when I was a kid.  I guess with everything spooky going on at the time, I just thought (and still do) that that cave set a great mood in some ways.  I remember being thrilled with the echo effect that the technicians used for voice pickup in the cave scenes, as well. [thumbleft]

Petofi
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: Philippe Cordier on January 18, 2006, 05:52:02 AM
Where he hides out after being found out as a vampire in 1897 is a different story.   The cave is clearly big pieces of dark crumpled-up paper stuck onto the walls.   Yet, even this cheapest of all sets works if you don't stop to think about it.

I never figured out that those cave walls were paper. That must have been the same as the walls in the abandoned mill, too.  Another nagging question solved!

I believe that where Barnabas hid out earlier in the storyline was referred to as a rectory, which is the same as a parsonage, vicarage, or manse - I guess it depends on the denomination, but a rectory seems to usually refer to the Anglican Church in England, so possibly this was an Episcopal Church (the equivalent of the Anglican Church in North America) in Collinsport.  I wonder if that was the denomination of the Collins family back in 1795?
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: BuzzH on January 19, 2006, 04:31:34 PM
I never figured out that those cave walls were paper. That must have been the same as the walls in the abandoned mill, too.  Another nagging question solved!

I never knew they used crumpled paper, although this doesn't surprise me given the 'shoe-string' budget!  I'll have to pay close attention to this when I get to these scenes in 1897!  ;)

I believe that where Barnabas hid out earlier in the storyline was referred to as a rectory, which is the same as a parsonage, vicarage, or manse - I guess it depends on the denomination, but a rectory seems to usually refer to the Anglican Church in England, so possibly this was an Episcopal Church (the equivalent of the Anglican Church in North America) in Collinsport.  I wonder if that was the denomination of the Collins family back in 1795?

The residences of Catholic priests are also called rectorys, although I don't think the Collins' were Catholic.  My guess is, since I believe they were of English ancestory, that they were members of the Episcopal Church, aka Anglican or 'Church of England' as Vlad states above.  For sure they were a Protestant family as they're always married by ministers.  ;)
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: MagnusTrask on January 19, 2006, 07:45:32 PM
Part of me tried to disbelieve that it was construction paper until petofi confirmed it just now.   But as vlad just said, it certainly works, doesn't it?   They'd have been crazy to pass on such a cheap, ideal solution.   The lair, it never did occur to me.   That was better lit, so maybe not.

The fact that they were hiding in the cave was very cool.   This more than made up for cheapness.   Then, mention number one of petofi's hand, just what i'd been waiting for patiently since childhood, until i got my tapes in 2002.   What a fantastic/dismal roller-coaster of a situation!
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: Maria_Merriweather on January 22, 2006, 01:16:43 AM
Seaview (which might have been Vicky and Burke's if things had turned out different). Why did Caleb Collins stipulate in his will that no one could live there for 100 years after his death? A house of mystery and secrets would fascinate me as a place to live. [spidr]
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: petofi on January 22, 2006, 01:47:38 AM
Part of me tried to disbelieve that it was construction paper until petofi confirmed it just now.   But as vlad just said, it certainly works, doesn't it?   They'd have been crazy to pass on such a cheap, ideal solution.   The lair, it never did occur to me.   That was better lit, so maybe not.

Here's our famous Paper-Mache cave!   8)  In this shot from episode #783, in which

[spoiler]Barnabas and Magda use the hand to cure charity and remove Barnabas' bite marks. By this time, of course, Barnabas is on the run and exposed as a vampire.[/spoiler]
This was also the episode when the people from Golden Magazine interviewed several DS stars for their Feb 1970 article on Dark Shadows.  The photos in that article depict a rehearsal in the cave w/ Frid and Hall, as well as back stage shots that show Charity's bedroom.

Petofi
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: Raineypark on January 22, 2006, 04:19:10 AM
Someone refresh my memory please: was there ever a mention of a light house on DS?
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: Midnite on January 22, 2006, 05:46:57 AM
Someone refresh my memory please: was there ever a mention of a light house on DS?

Sure.  [spoiler]Julia was brought to an abandoned lighthouse in 1840 by vampire Roxanne at the direction of Angelique.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: Willie on January 22, 2006, 02:34:06 PM
I always liked Nicolas Blair's house by the sea.  Beautiful place, and you've got Satan's right-hand man, a vampire, and Frankenstein and his wife living there.  And even an extra vampire burried in the cellar.  Never a dull moment!
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: MagnusTrask on January 25, 2006, 12:00:57 PM
The lair is cool most certainly, but I'm going to fantasize about being Master of Collinwood, thank you very much.  Just look at my avatar.    No, forget it, my inferiority thing won't permit it.    Just put me in the fishing shack.
Title: Re: Places to live on Dark Shadows
Post by: petofi on January 25, 2006, 06:15:02 PM
The lair is cool most certainly, but I'm going to fantasize about being Master of Collinwood, thank you very much.  Just look at my avatar.    No, forget it, my inferiority thing won't permit it.    Just put me in the fishing shack.

As I recall, most of the stuff from Collinwood was crammed into the fishing shack at Findley's Cove in PT, so you could salve your inferiority thing AND be master of Collinwood . . . sort of.  Beats the Trask tradition of being bricked up every hundred years.

Petofi