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Welcome Alondra!

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: 1968
« on: January 18, 2007, 05:23:22 AM »
From my notes again:

I wanted early Adam who can't speak to be next in line for the Dream.   He appears at someone's door, then tries to grunt his way through the poem...

Nice human point of view starting with 1968, not just with Adam's more sympathetic portrayal (than I remember from the Universal "monster movie" that didn't emphasize this quite as much did it?  I haven't seen it since I was a kid), that I must have identified with as a child mutant in suburbia, but also with the backstory of Ben Stokes becoming literate and his descendant becoming a professor, running circles around everyobody logically.    Very validating and empowering message built into the foundations of the program.  The outsiders really get it more than the powers that be.

Stokes in Ang's Dream... that's my kind of hero, right there!     Smiting with his wits and smartassedness!

E Stokes has Petofi's pinky thing.  I thought that was an acting choice, to make the Hand creepier.

I wrote this:  "I think Thayer David just walked into the credits!"   He should have stayed in character and just not given a damn.

The major life lesson of DS... you CAN tell a lie and get away with it forever!   (Stokes never finds out about BC.)

What's that huge bony fan coming out of Trask's elbow?

Elliot Stokes=Doctor Who?

Trask: "You are the witch I've been seeking!"   Cass should have said "Took you long enough bonehead!"  I did.

Interesting, if BC were to start a heartfelt conversation with ECS as Naomi.

Tower Room smaller inside than out.  Dr Who really is around.

Nicholas Blair!

I had to creep through NBs big entrance to find the Caption This! capture where Roger vomits into Nick's hat, or so I made it out to be.

"I don't have little vices, Mr. Collins!"

NB looking for sign of Ang's existence... then sudden Angelique theme music, loud... Blair or Astredo looks up in response... and it stops when NB names the wrong place to find her.    Only instance I know of, where the character can actually hear the background music!

In death, no one came along to disillusion Trask about his being a man of God... like, maybe.... God?!    Where does Trask hang out?   If not Heaven, has he stopped to think about why he's not there?

I'm missing a tape around this point, where NB interacts with Ang as Cassandra.    Adam's well spoken suddenly.   Tom Jennings pops into the story and gets bitten.    More later.


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No, no, no. Indigestion is more up here. What you're about the experience is a chest burster.

Mrs. J: "Well, whatever comes out, I'll boil it up, and serve it for dinner!  That saves me a trip to the market!"

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: 1968
« on: January 17, 2007, 12:04:04 AM »
Well, the visuals ought to convey what the characters are experiencing to some extent.

As Julia's trying to phone the police--
BC: "Remember... someone."
Lang: "Dave Woodard."   If Mr. Frid comes here and comes across this post, sorry to remind him of that.   Maybe it's like the dream curse.... when i see moments like that, i just have to mention them to release some tension, or something.   Also... BC says "Professor Strokes."   Sorry, sorry.

They knew enough to let Lacy stop doing Peterson as Bogart.

I thought, I can't believe Barnabas is doing a bodyswap!

How is the Dream going to scare Barnabas, of all people?

Why doesn't Willie want harm to come to Barnabas?

Nameless thug cop: "You give a lot of orders."
ECS: "Yes, I do."   When he appears the second time, I thought, he's getting his soon.    He did.

No one has suspected Adam of Barnabas's old crimes, yet.   They're fairly recent, still, for those who weren't whisked away to 1795 for a few months.

Adam is growing on me--- maybe they emphasized the innocence more than the Frankenstein movie did.    Another monster whose creator is the real villain.    He's learning violence from us.   I like him.   Widow's Hill: babies don't know falling hurts... maybe he just thought he was escaping.

Adam's intro to the story is silly, but now that he can speak a little and his presence is a fait accompli, he's growing on me.

I'm tired of transcribing these huge-lettered notes about episodes i saw days ago now... more later.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '07 I / Re: Fried Frid Feast
« on: January 16, 2007, 06:40:39 AM »
There is no cannibalism in Dark Shadows fandom.  None whatsoever.  And when we say none, we mean that there is a certain amount...

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Mrs. J: "Why yes, it's a... real apron, if that's what you mean...."

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Caption This! - Leviathans / Re: Episode #0904
« on: January 15, 2007, 11:49:24 AM »
"This is the darkest discoteque I've ever been in!  Why can't this dream start with my being spanked at one of Caligula's orgies, as usual?"

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Vickie, shouting:  It's you isn't it! PLEASE! let it be you! I want to come from a RICH family not from that rat hole of an orphanage! Tell me I'm a Collins!! PLEASE!!

In Vickie's defemce, she held that in a long time, didn't she?!

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: 1968
« on: January 15, 2007, 11:33:36 AM »
Actually, I just overloaded on Adam and the Dream Curse and I'll have to knock off for awhile.    In the patch I'm in now, the writing and logic have gone into a tailspin.    I'm now where Adam is trying to tell everyone about the taped message but can't yet (and... camp??  I don't see it).     I see no addition to the Frankenstein story yet.  When I was a kid, I was absorbing the old movies and new TV equivalents of those stories simultaneously.    I could get involved in all, equally, I guess.    It was all relatively new.

I never anticipated the Dream Curse being as bad as it is.    These people must scream their lungs out and their hair must turn white each year when the little tykes come around for Trick-or-Treat.   Good thing that doesn't happen, apparently.    The Collinsport kids must have found out the hard way.   Is this how Maggie found out they were "kooks"?

[spoiler]The first dream I could almost get behind, with a little help from my imagination.   At the end, I imagined more scale, with a tiny silhouette of Maggie at the bottom of the screen from the back, with the green skull towering above her.  They could have done that.[/spoiler]

Up until this point, for a long time, they had been telling a story they were anxious to tell-- Barnabas's.   What he's like now, then how he got that way.   It's a very compelling story.    Then after 1795, this very long arc is over, and then it's no longer a matter of exploring this fascinating character's story, but... what do we do now?    They didn't need something to "fill time" before.   No story that you come up with out of thin air to keep a show going is going to be as compelling as one you're burning to tell.

Even from what little I know or have heard, I saw DCs fingerprints on the Adam story.   Either this is the start of the twirling Rolodex, or it just was handled so well up until that point that one couldn't tell.

Later, they tried to reproduce the Barnabas arc with the Quentin arc, and that certainly worked, but they always seemed to be repeating on DS and trying to cover their tracks so people wouldn't notice, sometimes very well.    John Lennon said they'd write songs at first by thinking of one they liked by someone else, then changing bits.

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JFrid:  Johnny, how many times do I have to tell you?  When we're dancing on tables, we DON'T DIP!
JKarlen:  But Johnny, BuzzH loved it when you fell into her lap!  And Midnite said it was OK about the broken chair!

I'm missing out on some good convention stories.

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W: "Lotsa husbands like a nice, wood-panelled den to go off and think and smoke in...it doesn't mean he wants ta get away from ya!"

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Willie:  What's everybody looking at me for?  A guy likes a little privacy when he's robbing a grave!

LOL literally.

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I'm getting all caught up in this, so I'm going to wish you happy birthday again!!!   Happy Birthday!!!!!

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I'm really stupid!!!!!!
But I mean well!!!!

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: 1968
« on: January 14, 2007, 08:11:51 AM »
When I said the dialogue was smarter, I meant smarter than 1967, pre-1795.   Strangely enough, that sentence probably will not confuse a single person here who reads it.   We're tempoally sophisticated people.

"I think that thinking about failure is a contemptible weakness."-- Lang.

Barnabas consults Julia as a "friend" about Lang... are they suddenly friends just because the script says so?

[spoiler]I was thinking... is Barnabas going through his moral conversion right there before my eyes, standing in the shadows listening to Victoria talking to Lang abouyt Jeff Clark?    Yes!    That was nice.    He cried "enough"... great.   A cheering moment.    Too bad he's weaselling out a bit at the point where I've left off... with Julia trying to phone the police about Lang (in Lang's own house!   Get out of the front door first, at least!    And what a squeamish doctor... this was no mother or grandmother of Scully's, that's for certain!)![/spoiler]

Why are doctors like Lang and Julia, or Frankenstein, so driven to do experiments that trhey can never tell anyone about, that therefore they (and society) can never benefit from?

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Current Talk '07 I / 1968
« on: January 14, 2007, 07:54:44 AM »
I've been watching this period for the first time since original airing.   Comments:

Interesting how they made a point of making everything the same as 1967 when Victoria returned from 1795, for continuity, yet they sped ahead from that point on with updating the show, and improving 1968 to match the level of 1795.    New characters, more clever dialogue (such as from Elliot Stokes... I didn't get any clue as to what a great character he is from 1970), bigger jolts, faster plot, and suddenly Julia is out of the frumpy ugly hair/clothing and becomes "herself" as I know and love her.    It's as if they caught up abruptly with the time lost during the flashback, time that didn't pass for the characters but did for the real world.  I got the impression of DS suddenly becoming "modern".

The Frankenstein plotline has yet to win me over.   Doctor Who did it brilliantly, so it can be done.   A lot of the dialogue has gone back to being too simple and awkward, such as between Lang and Barnabas, which goes against what I said earlier, but everything is mixed and confusing so far.   I noticed JF is back to having more trouble with lines as before 1795... did he do it for continuity??

Maybe awkwardly said lines come from awkward or uncertain writing... maybe Frid was forced to keep stopping to think how he was going to deliver a line, because these new lines could be coming from a reforming character, or someone neutral, or someone who's still a villain... and the lines don't indicate any of this either way.   I've noticed JF using a villainous tone when the line is pretty benign.   One must blow lines if one has to stoip and think how to read them.

Lang... good pain acting.

All the photos from Caption This are coming to life before my eyes!

One episode break... Duelling Portraits!  (Barnabas's and Angelique's)



[spoiler]With Barnabas's sudden cure, 'my' DS starts.   I felt this especially when Roger was being drawn to Ang's portrait, to hurt Lang, with that music.  I don't know why.   Everything is smarter, really moves, is more vital.

As the Frankenstein monster's shroud is pulled away to show Barnabas, I instantly thought, Dracula Meets Frankenstein!

That "life force" idea worked back then, but it's now been used so often that it's become a lazy meaningless science-fiction premise.   How handy, a vague something that can be yanked out of one body and into another, like pouring liquid from one bottle to another...

Couldn't Lang have just stuck Barnabas's "essence" into Clark's intact body, without the fleshy crazy-quilt Lang just had to build?    How dare he claim to have created life, when he just took intact limbs and parts and organs and sewed them together?    Sure, reanimating is hard, but that intricate biological "machinery" was already built, and Lang or Frankenstein wouldn't have known how to even begin to build any of it from scratch.   Leave it to a doctor to steal God's (or who/whatever's) thunder.

Back later.
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