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Caption This! - Vicki's Arrival-Burke's Revenge-Matthew Morgan-Introducing Josette / Re: Episode #0058
« on: November 30, 2023, 09:32:35 PM »
Carolyn surely has some strange tastes!!
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I got somewhat distracted by Angelique's big hair
One really has to wonder how Angelique's somewhat flattened hair (due to Charles running his hands through it) -
- suddenly becomes as big as it is, especially at the end of Scene 85 -
- but perhaps that's even more evidence that Scene 85 was shot over the course of a few days... (Or is it evidence that Angelique really was a witch and had cast a spell so that her hair would go back to being perfectly coiffed no matter what Charles did to it during their, uh, amorous interludes? )
One final comment that just occurred to me regarding the heart pendant continuity goofs:
It's hard to imagine that DC and editor Charles Goldsmith didn't notice those goofs when they were assembling the footage for Scene 85, so could it have really been the case that, as with the daytime show, DC thought the DS audience was too stupid/unobservant to ever notice? After all, on the daytime show we were never suppose to be smart/observant enough to notice things like when actors wore different clothes during the end of one ep and the restaging of the same scene for the teaser of the next. Though at least in that case, we would be seeing things on different days (and the thinking was that supposedly we were only going to watch the eps once and never again). But in the film the pendant goofs take place in the same scene - and as is the case with most of us, we've watched the original DS films MANY times. Though in my defense, as I've said before, more often than not I tend to strongly focus on faces and not other things (which is why I've rarely been one to notice the occasional stagehand at the outer fringes of the frames of some of the daytime eps unless someone else has pointed them out). But again, even I'm shocked that after all these decades no one else seems to have mentioned the goofs in Scene 85 with the pendant. It pains me to say it, but maybe there really was some point, even if it was only a small one, to DC's belief. But at least it's not like the pendant goofs never went noticed...
YES!! You've hit on it!! Or at least a big part of it...
In the opening of Scene 85, Angelique isn't wearing anything around her neck:
Hence why I shared as clues stills taken in the tower in which she was also missing any sort of necklace:And the last of the stills to preview Scene 85, two more Angelique publicity stills that were taken in the tower room:
...
Though...
...mysteriously the heart pendant shows up halfway through the scene:
Hence why I referred back to this:And to further provide clues, I'm reposting this -And fair warning to pay close attention to the publicity stills because they may come in handy because there may be a quiz down the line...
But the more odd thing is that the pendant appears only to...
...then disappear at the end of the scene to be replaced by a simple chain necklace:
Hence why I shared as a clue the following still taken in the tower in which she was also simply wearing the chain necklace:- and this particularly -And another behind the scenes still featuring David Selby and Lara Parker to preview Scene 85:
(Click here for a 700X476 version)
- because it provides one of the biggest clues among the publicity stills...
It's all enough to make one wonder if parts of Scene 85 were shot on different days? If not, why all the continuity goofs regarding the pendant? (And I can't believe it took me so many decades to finally even notice. But as I've often said, no matter how many times one watches something, there can still be things to notice for the first time, even continuity goofs. And I guessing not many others have noticed it either because, not only has no one ever posted about it here, but no one has ever added it to the film's goofs on IMDb.)
And like I said, it would all be bad enough on its own, but it's a really big problem when it comes to Scene 124 when, in a hugely important plot point, Angelique gives the pendant to Sarah to "remember" her by...
Later, Evan returns to Quentin's room and draws a huge pentagram in chalk in the middle of the floor. He calls it a haven and sanctuary against many evils--though I'm still not sure what we're dealing with, this pentagram may help. He tells Quentin to place two black candles at the bottom points of the pentagram at sunset, then get inside the pentagram and stay put. Quentin asks what will happen then, but Evan can't answer that. Skeptical and afraid, Quentin doesn't appreciate how little Evan learned about his curse, and rubs out part of the pentagram with his foot to show his disdain Evan, pissed over the desecration of his art work, stops being delicate and relays to Quentin the cold hard facts: it's possible you may die inside the pentagram. I won't be getting in the pentagram in the first place, Quentin assures him--I'll just kill Magda instead. Evan says that would make matters even worse, and Beth warns that, if he does that, there might be no hope at all. Quentin, fed up, orders Evan out. The lawyer gives Beth a stern caveat--get out and stay away from Quentin tonight, go far, far away. Evan leaves.
... I've decided to provide the answer to this:And I still haven't forgotten about this -I haven't forgotten about this:... I'm somewhat ashamed to admit that there are continuity errors in Scene 85 that I never noticed until I watched it this time around. ...
So, has anyone else noticed the continuity errors? The screw up is a really big problem when it comes to a subsequent scene...Once you learn what the problem is, you're going to feel foolish that you didn't notice what's wrong with Scene 85. I certainly do. And it would be one thing if it was simply something in Scene 85 and had no bearing on anything else, but as I said, it's a really big problem when it comes to a subsequent scene...
I'm sharing screen captures from both the Blu-Ray and the VHS. See if you can discern the answer without me having to provide an explanation because the answer is going to be staring you in the face:
And from upcoming Scene 124:
(ADMIN: Edited to replace VHS captures with Laser captures)
See if you can discern the answer
A word of advise for those viewing the screen caps on a phone: you may want to enlarge the caps to see things more closely. When I checked the post this morning I noticed that details may not be as visible on a phone as they are for those of us viewing them on a PC monitor. On a phone, if you know what to look for, you'll definitely see it (or not see it, as the case may be) - but if you don't know what to look for, you may not...
I got somewhat distracted by Angelique's big hair but she seems to be missing her pendant in the first few captures. Oops!
And another behind the scenes still featuring David Selby and Lara Parker to preview Scene 85:
(Click here for a 700X476 version)
This one is fairly rare - and it is something to keep in mind along with the still shared in Reply #216 because they will relate to something coming up in a couple days...
Now, this next rare still is definitely behind the scenes - and it could very easily be behind the scenes preparing for Scene 85. But it could also be behind the scenes preparing for Scenes 102 or 124 because Charles and Gabriel are wearing the same clothes.
(Click here for a 1400X1557 version)
And, although Charles is also wearing a black vest in Scene 102, Selby could have easily put that on after getting his sideburns attended to. But I chose to go with Scene 85 because it's the longest. And who knows, all those scenes might have been shot on the same day...
Also, it's amusing that in the still there's a copy of Bram Stoker's Dracula on the table near Selby -
- though, of course, that doesn't necessarily mean it was his or he was reading it. It could have been left on the table by anyone...