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Title: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: MsCriseyde on April 05, 2007, 07:02:12 AM
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Number 167. April 4, 2007.

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Hello, Dark Shadows Fan,

ShadowGram (SG), The Official Newsletter & News Source for Dark
Shadows (DS), announces the following breaking news.

*** SHADOWGRAM PREMIERE ANNOUNCEMENT:

SG announces the 2007 DS Festival Weekend will be held Friday, August
17 and Saturday, August 18. We are returning to the Westchester
Marriott Hotel in Tarrytown, NY (site of the 2004 DS Festival).

A special guest will appear exclusively on Saturday. Also on Saturday
is a day visit to nearby Lyndhurst Estate, filming location for the 2
movies "House of Dark Shadows" (1970) and "Night of Dark Shadows"
(1971). A DS Banquet, special guest appearance, and video
presentation that evening will close the event.

SG soon will premiere-announce the guest list, planned programming,
and membership information.

The Westchester Marriott Hotel is at 670 White Plains Rd., Tarrytown,
NY 10591. 914-631-2200. It is approximately 25 miles (45 minutes)
north of Manhattan on the eastern shore of the Hudson River at the
Tappan-Zee Bridge. The hotel is accessible by air, train, and
driving. Closest major airports: JFK, LaGuardia, and Newark. Main
highways: US-87, US-95, US 287, Route 9, and Route 119.

The hotel now is accepting sleeping room reservations at the special
reduced price of $129 per room (single-quad) for Thurs.-Sat. nights
only. To receive the discounted price, you must request the "Dark
Shadows Rate" when you call the direct hotel reservation line at 1-
800-882-1042.

SG and the Fest recommend fans make their room reservations as soon
as possible.

*** PLEASE NOTE:

This is a 2-day event scheduled for Friday and Saturday only. There
is no event programming on Sunday. Fans may wish to meet for
breakfast or lunch at the hotel to share their interests.

Prices for membership, the Banquet, and the day trip are not yet
finalized. SG will announce this information as soon as it is set and
will announce further plans as they are determined. The DS Festival's
general mass mailing will be sent via postal-mail sometime after that
announcement is made. The information also will be on the official DS
Festival website: www.darkshadowsfestival.com

To receive the mass mailing in advance, please send a large
(business-size #10) Self-Addressed Stamped Envelope (SASE) with $.39
postage on it to the Fest address below. Please do NOT send any
payments until after the official announcements are made.

Please send your SASE to:

Dark Shadows Festival
P.O. Box 92
Maplewood, NJ 07040

More information will be in the upcoming SG #110 print issue
Newsletter, available soon by postal-mail subscription (rates and
other information at the end of this Update).

*** DONNA WANDREY IN NEW "BLACK COMEDY" PLAY

Donna (DS' Roxanne Drew) tells SG she's to appear in "Murderers" at
Theaterworks' Off-Broadway in Hartford, Connecticut. Publicity: "The
wickedly funny new play" has "3 intertwined tales of murder at the
usually peaceful Florida retirement village of Riddle Key."

TheaterWorks is located at 233 Pearl Street in downtown Hartford, CT
06103 (near the corner of Ann & Pearl). Box office: (860) 527-7838.
http://www.theaterworkshartford.org/content/directions.html

Performances are Tues.-Sun., April 13-May 27. Tickets are $35-$55.
Discounted parking is available in the Goodwin Square Garage, less
than a half block from the theater.

*** JOSEPH GORDON-LEVITT IN NEW THRILLER FILM

Joe (1991 DS' David/Daniel) stars in the title role of "The Lookout,"
which opened in theaters nationwide Mar. 30. His character "Chris" is
a star high school athlete critically injured in a car accident that
leaves him brain-damaged. He becomes involved in a planned bank heist
at the rural bank where he works as a night janitor. Joe is receiving
excellent reviews for his sensitive, distinctive portrayal.

*** MARLEY SHELTON IN NEW "GRINDHOUSE" HORROR MOVIE

"Grindhouse" actually is 2 separate movies within a movie and opens
nationwide this Fri., April 6.

Marley (2004 WB Pilot Victoria) plays "an adulterous doctor" who
must "battle a horde of zombies spawned from a military experiment"
in the segment called "Planet Terror." This is director Robert
Rodriguez's portion of the "double-feature" collaboration with
Quentin Tarantino, whose segment is called "Death Proof." Both parts -
and the special "trailers" seen during the intermission - pay
tribute to and re-create the "schlocky, exploitive, B-features" that
screened in "less-than-savory theaters decades ago."

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Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Janet the Wicked on April 05, 2007, 04:58:10 PM
I can't believe no one has responded to this yet.
WHERE IS EVERYBODY???
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Nancy on April 05, 2007, 05:10:39 PM
I'm here. I'm glad something has been announced even if sketchy.

Are you going to be the special guest, Wicked?

nancy
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: dom on April 05, 2007, 05:19:44 PM
I can't believe no one has responded to this yet.
WHERE IS EVERYBODY???

Probably making their reservations.  ^-^
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: joe integlia on April 05, 2007, 05:50:49 PM
or pleading with their boss for vacation time!
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Janet the Wicked on April 05, 2007, 05:52:53 PM
Are you going to be the special guest, Wicked?

I might be if I can figure out how to get from the airport to the Tarrytown hotel.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Brandon Collins on April 05, 2007, 05:54:26 PM
Let me scream out a big WOOOOOTTTTT!!!!!!!

FINALLY something was announced. I don't care who's coming--I'm there. I'd go just for the scenery. Never been up to that area before. Not to mention that I LOOOOVEEE old mansions, so that's definitely a plus. Just like I said in one of my previous posts, a date and a location would be nice. Am I to think that maybe our recent discussions have something to do with it? Nah, probably not.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Nancy on April 05, 2007, 06:02:17 PM
It's easy.  Someone might even pick you up if you nice.

I might be if I can figure out how to get from the airport to the Tarrytown hotel.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: rainingwolf on April 05, 2007, 06:05:20 PM
Well, I might have gone if it was in California, but getting to NY with a wheelchair and ventilator is just too hard. Also, the mansion tours would be great--but are they accessible?  Maybe next year if it's in CA...but I want to hear DETAILED stories from all of you who get to NY! I can live vicariously!  ;)
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 05, 2007, 06:20:59 PM
It's easy.  Someone might even pick you up if you nice.

It's easy even if you don't have someone to pick you up. You go from the airport to Grand Central Station, you take the train to Tarrytown, and then you take a taxi to the hotel. I don't remember the particulars (like if there's a shuttle from the airport to GCS or what the train number to Tarrytown is (the last Fest there was in 2004 afterall  ;)), but all that info is probably here on the forum on the Calendar Events / Announcements '04 boards. And even if it can't all be found there, all one need do is ask about it when making reservations or by checking out the airport and GCS Web sites (which is what I'd originally done).  :)
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Raineypark on April 05, 2007, 06:24:08 PM
I've got my room booked.....now if I can just get my family in the area to feed me.... >:D
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Nancy on April 05, 2007, 06:41:06 PM
Yes, you can get a taxi from the train station located in Tarrytown/Sleepy Hollow to the hotel.  It's not very far though not easily walkable especially if you have luggage. 
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: ProfStokes on April 05, 2007, 06:57:36 PM
Mixed feelings on this. I am extremely grateful that the announcement has finally been made.  It could not have been a moment too soon. However, I am discouraged that California is once again neglected (why is there never a West Coast Fest two years in a row?)  For those who can go, have fun.

ProfStokes
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: LdyAnne on April 05, 2007, 07:38:35 PM
Even though I haven't decided if I'm going, I booked my room
Now off to check out the finances
LdyAnne
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 05, 2007, 07:39:34 PM
why is there never a West Coast Fest two years in a row?

Who here remembers when there were Fests on both the West and East coasts every year? But those days are long gone.  ::sigh::
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: adamsgirl on April 05, 2007, 07:52:39 PM
I've got two rooms booked already and they're just about full. I'm so grateful it's been announced and so looking forward to it, even if it's a night short of most festivals.

As for the train, those of you flying in will want to get to Grand Central Station (ask at the airport for the shuttle bus -- probably cheaper than a taxi, unless you share with other fest-goers). Once in the main terminal, go to the MetroNorth counter, Hudson Line. This is the train that will stop at Tarrytown. Make sure, though, that if it's an express train (depending on the time of day), it actually does stop at Tarrytown. I believe so, but it's been a while since I took MetroNorth. When you get to Tarrytown, the hotel won't be too far, but a taxi is definitely what you'll need.

Here's something else. I believe if you buy your train ticket at the counter in Grand Central, it's a tad cheaper than getting on the train and buying it from the conductor, but again, I'm not sure. I do know that's definitely the case if you buy a round-trip ticket. If you actually know when you'll be going back down to Grand Central, you might want to consider buying that round-trip ticket.

This is just great news! I'm hoping to meet lots of you there, at least, those I haven't already met! What fun!
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: loril54 on April 05, 2007, 07:56:49 PM
I'm still pushing for a Fest in the Pacific Northwest, Aren't we worthy up here. Portland does have the biggest book store west of the Mississippi, and Niki.  We have Amazon and Microsoft in Washington. Maybe someday.  :( :(

Oh I forgot View Master was also out of Portland. I could go on and on. Did you ever buy the DS reals.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 05, 2007, 08:05:14 PM
We have ... Microsoft in Washington.

I'd leave Microsoft off of the list if I were you. They're more of a reason to stay away!  [Blow_Up_IE]

 ;D


Seriously, though - it might be nice if the Fests could be held in other parts of the country other than the NY/NJ area, CA, Las Vegas and Dallas. But it doesn't look like that will ever happen...
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Janet the Wicked on April 05, 2007, 08:46:44 PM
It's easy.  Someone might even pick you up if you nice.

I always nice.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Janet the Wicked on April 05, 2007, 08:52:48 PM
It's easy.  Someone might even pick you up if you nice.

It's easy even if you don't have someone to pick you up. You go from the airport to Grand Central Station, you take the train to Tarrytown, and then you take a taxi to the hotel. I don't remember the particulars (like if there's a shuttle from the airport to GCS or what the train number to Tarrytown is (the last Fest there was in 2004 afterall  ;)), but all that info is probably here on the forum on the Calendar Events / Announcements '04 boards. And even if it can't all be found there, all one need do is ask about it when making reservations or by checking out the airport and GCS Web sites (which is what I'd originally done).  :)

Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to rent a car at the airport. I'm going home to Massachusetts for a visit after the Fest. If they let me in.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Nancy on April 05, 2007, 09:01:09 PM
I always nice.

Liar liar phoenix on fire
Hanging from David's wire.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Janet the Wicked on April 05, 2007, 11:20:15 PM
Liar liar phoenix on fire
Hanging from David's wire.

Little fly upon the wall
Ain't you got no shoes a'tall?
Ain't ya got no shimmy shirt?
Ain't ya got no petty skirt?
Boo, fly! Ain't ya cold?
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Janet the Wicked on April 05, 2007, 11:24:12 PM
Mixed feelings on this. I am extremely grateful that the announcement has finally been made.  It could not have been a moment too soon. However, I am discouraged that California is once again neglected (why is there never a West Coast Fest two years in a row?)  For those who can go, have fun.

Please don't give up so easily, Stoksie. You can find a way to come out east, cancha? We'll miss you if you don't.
Besides, I'm the secret guest. Now ain't that enough to make you run to Pan Am and buy a ticket?
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Bobubas on April 06, 2007, 12:58:25 AM
Who here remembers when there were Fests on both the West and East coasts every year? But those days are long gone.  ::sigh::

I remember MB. It was 1991 to be exact.  ;D  Los Angeles in June and Thanksgiving weekend in NY.  Ah, the good ole days.  :)
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: sheenasma on April 06, 2007, 01:06:37 AM
I highly recommend that anyone going plan on the banquet. It could be the only meal you get in that hotel.

n
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Darren Gross on April 06, 2007, 01:15:11 AM
Ruth's Chris steak was terrific there, but insanely pricey.

High end restaurants like that seem out of place, when attached to a hotel.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: MsCriseyde on April 06, 2007, 01:19:53 AM
I highly recommend that anyone going plan on the banquet. It could be the only meal you get in that hotel.
The "surprise guest" reference in the SG announcement may very well refer to wait staff in the hotel restaurant. If they bother to come by your table, it'll be quite surprising.

Hopefully, they've straightened that situation out, but the last Tarrytown Fest was the first time I spent the week before in NYC eating cheesecake every night and God knows what else and came home having lost weight, and I am not joking.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Gerard on April 06, 2007, 01:27:24 AM
I wish I could go!  Now, for those of you who are going, and are wondering how to get to Tarrytown, whether to take the train, how about if some of you go together into renting a car, or even a van?  If a bunch of you arrive at, let's say, the Newark Airport, you can pick the wheels up, after chipping in, and head on up.  Or, if you want to really get into the swing of things, you can rent a convertable and as you're driving up to the mansion, one of you can pretend to be Quentin and stop the car and put up the roof when it starts to rain (you can all also fight over who gets to be Tracy).

Gerard
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: michael c on April 06, 2007, 01:29:56 AM
tarrytown again? ???

wasn't the general consensus that tarrytown '04 was sparsely attended and even somewhat "lame"?

i didn't love it but no matter.i live only about an hour away by train so i'll do the day trip thing...and eat breakfast before i leave home.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: joe integlia on April 06, 2007, 02:02:35 AM
i remember when there would be a west coast and east coast convention in the same year. those were the years jonathan frid would sometimes attend as well.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Sandor on April 06, 2007, 04:08:20 AM
Mixed feelings on this. I am extremely grateful that the announcement has finally been made.  It could not have been a moment too soon. However, I am discouraged that California is once again neglected (why is there never a West Coast Fest two years in a row?)

I'm in full agreement with Prof. Stokes on this one. Bring the DS Con back to California!
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: D_Friedlander on April 06, 2007, 06:14:49 AM
Yes, really, I think enough Easterners would have gone to a 2-day event in CA, IF the room rates were held an extra couple of days--- even if there was no more Fest, there's certainly plenty to do and see in that area that could fill an extra day or two.  And I'd miss the west coasters and anyone else I know, who may not be able to attend, like ProfStokes.

The best I can say is that Tarrytown is close enough to where I live that even if I didn't already have room-mates and couldn't get a room, I can drive back and forth for the couple of days, and if there are no other plans,  not even take it as a vacation--- Goodness, I could just call in sick on Friday.

If abbreviated conventions are the wave of the future, it might be worthwhile taking them to different locations in turn, and give some of the fans a chance to attend without always getting stuck for airfares.

Looking forward to seeing whoever can make it....
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: ProfStokes on April 06, 2007, 07:10:25 AM
I highly recommend that anyone going plan on the banquet. It could be the only meal you get in that hotel.
Yes!  Thank you for bringing that up, sheenasma. I don't know what the hotel is like now, but from my stay there in 2004, I remember there was one restaurant in the hotel and it was only open for a few hours a day.  If you were able to get in during those times, the service was incredibly slow and the food overpriced. The next nearest dining spot was only within driving distance. I ate two meals the entire time I was at that hotel, and one of those was the banquet.  By Monday, I was physically ill. Seriously, if you're planning to stay at the hotel, stop at a grocer's or a convenience store and stock up on food in advance.

Even if I had the money to travel to New York for the second time in a row, nothing could induce me to stay at the Westchester Marriott again.  [sad3]

ProfStokes
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: EmeraldRose on April 06, 2007, 12:24:13 PM
Quote from: ProfStokes
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[/color]Even if I had the money to travel to New York for the second time in a row, nothing could induce me to stay at the Westchester Marriott again.
Me, neither!  [sad3] I am also in California, and it angers me to find the DS Fest will be in New York, again!  [angryf] If I decide to go, I plan to fly into Westchester County Airport (HPN) in White Plains, rent a car, and stay at a cheaper hotel nearby. [bigok]  I hope Jonathan Frid will be the "special guest" - I never met him before, and it might be worth it to go there again if I can see him. [cheesyg]

----- Sally -----
[coolg]
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Julianka7 on April 06, 2007, 04:07:08 PM
Personally I think it's way passed time to have a fest in the mid west.
Chicago would be a good location.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Raineypark on April 06, 2007, 04:55:15 PM
I have to admit that the only meal I ate in the hotel was breakfast.....but I do recall that I thought it was excellent, and I made sure I ate breakfast there the following morning.  I think business travelers only eat breakfast in their hotel, and not their other meals.....so I expect breakfast to be the one meal the hotel gets right....

But Tarrytown has many wonderful restaurants within a cab's ride so there really isn't any reason to eat in the hotel.....
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 06, 2007, 05:37:22 PM
I've read and heard many horror stories about the restaurants attached to the hotel, and I don't discount any of them - but my experiences were just the opposite. I don't recall the names of those two restaurants, but I ate at both and had no complaints whatsoever. On the Saturday night I ate at the one at the end of the corridor, and both the food and the service were spectacular (I had some sort of herb chicken that I would almost kill to get the recipe for because it was that good). My only complaint there, if one can call it that, was that it was so dark in the room that I was seated in that I could barely see the friend I was with or the food because basically the only thing lighting it all was one candle. But under other circumstances I may have thought that was romantic.  ;)  And on the Sunday a group of friends and I ate at the first restaurant, and again everything was very good. In fact, I think we pretty much overstayed our welcome there, but no one said a thing to us. And I should probably also mention that on neither night did we have reservations - we simply showed up and were taken care of as if we were regulars. But the one thing was that we showed up at both restaurants just as they were opening for dinner, so that may have had an awful lot to do with why we didn't encounter any of the problems others had as the nights progressed and service apparently backed up.  :- 
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Brandon Collins on April 06, 2007, 05:59:56 PM
For those of you who have been to Tarrytown before--

I'm thinking of going to this year's fest. I want to go, but things haven't been taken care of just yet on my end. So, what I'm wanting to know is:

1. What's Tarrytown like? Is it town-ish, or is it more bustling and busy?
2. Are thing far away from the hotel? Is the hotel in the "city"?
3. Would you recommend driving? (I don't think I could get mum on a plane, and the train from here would be like $300!!!)

Any other help you could provide would be great! Thanks!
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 06, 2007, 06:16:34 PM
I remember MB. It was 1991 to be exact.  ;D  Los Angeles in June and Thanksgiving weekend in NY.  Ah, the good ole days.  :)

'91 was certainly one of the years, and the last - but Fests were also held on both coasts in '87 and '89. And in '86 they were held in both Dallas and Newark. And in '85 there was a Fest in Newark as well as one as part of TimeCon85 in San Jose.  ;)

Interestingly, though, there have been strings of uninterrupted years of Fests in the Newark/NYC area but never, as ProfStokes pointed out, two consecutive years in CA. I remember hearing that the East Coast Fests in general are supposedly more successful than the ones on the West Coast. I don't know if that is actually true - but the evidence of so many East Coast Fests would seem to support it...
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: ProfStokes on April 06, 2007, 06:35:59 PM
1. What's Tarrytown like? Is it town-ish, or is it more bustling and busy?
2. Are thing far away from the hotel? Is the hotel in the "city"?
3. Would you recommend driving? (I don't think I could get mum on a plane, and the train from here would be like $300!!!)
As I recall, Brandon, it's pretty isolated and more of a suburb than a city. Sleepy Hollow is a small town nearby, and the biggest attractions are Lyndhurst and Washington Irving's house.  I don't remember seeing any malls, theaters, other museums, or features that I usually associate with a "city" (in other words, it's certainly not Brooklyn).  You would likely need a rental car or a taxi to get from place to place.  It's a long walk to anywhere from the Westchester Marriott.

ProfStokes
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: ProfStokes on April 06, 2007, 06:39:14 PM
Interestingly, though, there have been strings of uninterrupted years of Fests in the Newark/NYC area but never, as ProfStokes pointed out, two consecutive years in CA. I remember hearing that the East Coast Fests in general are supposedly more successful than the ones on the West Coast. I don't know if that is actually true - but the evidence of so many East Coast Fests would seem to support it...
And yet, most of the regular actors who attend Festivals live on the West Coast.  I believe their expenses (travel, hotels) are paid by the Festival, so I would imagine the cost of bringing so many people back and forth would exceed any profits that could be made from the larger East Coast fan base.

ProfStokes
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 06, 2007, 06:50:53 PM
I would imagine the cost of bringing so many people back and forth would exceed any profits that could be made from the larger East Coast fan base.

One would certainly assume that. But maybe not.  [idontknow]  Like I said, the evidence would *seem* to be to the contrary...
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: dom on April 06, 2007, 06:54:29 PM
1. What's Tarrytown like? Is it town-ish, or is it more bustling and busy?
2. Are thing far away from the hotel? Is the hotel in the "city"?
3. Would you recommend driving? (I don't think I could get mum on a plane, and the train from here would be like $300!!!)

1, Townish but it ain't Mayberry.
2A, Yes. 2B, No.
3, Yes. I did. (And with someone who could have been my mother - she came with luggage and driving instructions, lol. I'd name names but I fear the WOODEN SPOON!)

I had no trouble with the restaurants at the hotel. I ate breakfast, lunch, and dinner there on and off. Great food, great friends, great memories. The Fest itself was the lowpoint of the trip...but I'm not bitter.  8)
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 06, 2007, 06:56:41 PM
it's pretty isolated

That's probably putting it mildly. The hotel is situated in the middle of nowhere in an industrial park.  :-  Though, as Raineypark pointed out, some restaurants are just a cab ride or drive away. And, of course, one can certainly take the train into NYC, which is what I did twice in '04.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 06, 2007, 06:58:46 PM
(And with someone who could have been my mother - she came with luggage and driving instructions, lol. I'd name names but I fear the WOODEN SPOON!)

I'm sensing no pignoli cookies for you ever again! And that's probably the least of it when she reads that!!  [lghy]
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: dom on April 06, 2007, 07:00:39 PM
(And with someone who could have been my mother - she came with luggage and driving instructions, lol. I'd name names but I fear the WOODEN SPOON!)

I'm sensing no pignoli cookies for you ever again! And that's probably the least of it when she reads that!!  [lghy]

[a2a3]
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Janet the Wicked on April 06, 2007, 08:55:55 PM
I am interested in restaurants in the area. Though the food at the Tarrytown Marriott was quite good, the service was horrendous. We had the bartendar from Hell as well. Sloppy service and rudeness. Why, we got up to leave when he didn't come back with our tab for an hour and a half and then he accused us of stiffing him. Needless to say, he got a chinsy tip.
If you don't want my business, sir, I shall take it elsewhere.
But really. Tarrytown is a gorgeous place to be - if you find the right places. Visit Sleepy Hollow Cemetary, for instance. The mansions are nearby where they filmed the movies. Just have to do some research, kids.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Raineypark on April 07, 2007, 12:40:27 AM
(And with someone who could have been my mother - she came with luggage and driving instructions, lol. I'd name names but I fear the WOODEN SPOON!)

I'm sensing no pignoli cookies for you ever again! And that's probably the least of it when she reads that!!  [lghy]

[a2a3]

Ahh....You can run....but you can't hide......[vryevl]
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Bobubas on April 07, 2007, 03:00:07 AM
Interestingly, though, there have been strings of uninterrupted years of Fests in the Newark/NYC area but never, as ProfStokes pointed out, two consecutive years in CA. 

We had consecutive years out West in 1991 AND 1992. Both at the LAX Marriott.  ;)
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 07, 2007, 03:22:41 AM
We had consecutive years out West in 1991 AND 1992. Both at the LAX Marriott.  ;)

Oh, yeah - that's right.  [6184]  How quickly I forget.  :-[  (That'll teach me to speak off the top of my head and not check first.  :))

Well, so much for the notion that there's never been a West Coast Fest two years in a row.  ;)  Though ProfStokes' larger point is still a valid one because, for whatever reason, consecutive West Coast Fests are still an extremely rare beast in comparison to their East Coast counterparts.  :-
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Nancy on April 07, 2007, 03:59:30 AM
I've been told by those involved with the festivals that (1) if given the choice of flying to LA or NY for a festival, most would prefer going to New York and (2) traditionally, the larger crowds are in NY rather than CA.  The events held in CA do not draw as many people.  Of course, the location and houses used for the original show are also all located on the east coast.

This is what I've been told.  I have not attended any LA fests or events.

Nancy

Though ProfStokes' larger point is still a valid one because, for whatever reason, consecutive West Coast Fests are still an extremely rare beast in comparison to their East Coast counterparts.  :-
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 07, 2007, 05:12:41 AM
I have not attended any LA fests or events.

I've only been to one event - the '05 Fest - and that was mostly to see the '04 WB pilot. But now that I've gotten a taste of the West Coast, I'm yearning to go back. In fact, I was hoping this year's Fest would be there. But alas...
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: MsCriseyde on April 07, 2007, 05:28:39 AM
(1) if given the choice of flying to LA or NY for a festival, most would prefer going to New York
That would apply to me.  ;D  My friends and I typically arrange an extended trip around the Fests, and what NY and the surrounding area have over LA is this thing called public transit, though I will say that the location of the last LA Fest was nice as far as having a fair amount to do and see within walking distance.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Brandon Collins on April 07, 2007, 06:29:49 AM
Thanks for all the helpful information. I'll have to do a little researching about the surrounding area. I'll definitely want to check out Sleep Hollow. Love the book, and love the movie with Johnny Depp, though I'm sure it wasn't filmed there. lol. I'm up for old cemetaries, mansions, and Washington Irving's house.

Might extend the event to the entire weekend for myself.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: loril54 on April 07, 2007, 09:24:37 AM
To bad they don't do full video's of the Fest so that some of us that don't live near one of the Big Cities, or are poor because they spend all their extra money on DVD's.

Has anyone done anything like that before? Or even do Video Broadcast via satalite, I know that  I'm now thinking to big. OH well.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Midnite on April 07, 2007, 04:04:28 PM
To bad they don't do full video's of the Fest so that some of us that don't live near one of the Big Cities, or are poor because they spend all their extra money on DVD's.

Has anyone done anything like that before?

There's a recent discussion about the official Fest videographers.  One of them has a site with Festival vids for sale though it appears to be down, but he can be contacted for info: Rich Blanco  drksone@aol.com
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: MsCriseyde on April 07, 2007, 04:12:36 PM
One of them has a site with Festival vids for sale though it appears to be down, but he can be contacted for info: Rich Blanco  drksone@aol.com
The site hasn't been updated in some time, but here is the link
http://home.earthlink.net/~drksone/
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Midnite on April 07, 2007, 04:15:33 PM
Thanks, MsCrisedye.  :)

ShadowGram:
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The hotel now is accepting sleeping room reservations at the special reduced price of $129 per room (single-quad) for Thurs.-Sat. nights only.

Now that's something new.  An additional night's stay is $249, or you can pay $149 per night for 4 nights.   I'm thinking it's better to stay extra nights elsewhere, meaning not in Tarrytown.  :- 
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Minja on April 07, 2007, 05:06:38 PM
http://www.stripedbassny.com/

Here's a restaurant I had dinner at with Mark Rainey and Elizabeth Massie.  It has sort of a "Blue Whale" atmosphere and the food was delicious.  This was during the 2001 DS Halloween Party.  Glad to see it's still going strong.  It is very well worth the cab fare.  Bon Appettite! [beer]

Always, Minja  [chrmg][/size]




Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Joeytrom on April 07, 2007, 05:30:19 PM
I had lunch at the restaurant in the Tarrytown Hotel in '04 and got food poisioning from a steak.  This time I will eat prior to going to the festival.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: MsCriseyde on April 07, 2007, 06:30:22 PM
An additional night's stay is $249, or you can pay $149 per night for 4 nights.   I'm thinking it's better to stay extra nights elsewhere, meaning not in Tarrytown.
$249? Who are they kidding? You can get a room in Midtown Manhattan for less than that even if you figure in a car or train ride into the city. Sounds like they want all the freaks out once the circus ends.  ;D
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: joe integlia on April 07, 2007, 06:55:06 PM
i suggested a webcast of the festival last year. however those hopes were shot down when the announcement came that no videotaping was going to be permitted. i dont know if thats going to be the case this year but it doesnt matter cause im not going. but if there are no camera restrictions, anyone with a laptop computer, webcam and wireless internet could hookup their webcam right there in the main room and do a webcast of the festival. we would all have to be viewing on a instant messaging service like yahoo. if the event was to be held in los angeles and no cam restrictions, i could have done the next best thing. i dont have laptop/wireless internet but i do got webcam and i do live in los angeles. so i could videotape the events of the day and then do a webcast when i got home each night however it be late especially for the east coast, or do one or more after the whole weekend is over. i have previous festivals available as ive mentioned here many times. anyone interested can email me for info. i also suggested before that i could do webcasts of previous events if people would add me to yahoo messenger but so far only a few have done so. jayteevideo@yahoo.com
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Teresa on April 07, 2007, 06:59:55 PM
I'm booked for the hotel but will wait and see how the house expenses go for this year. I guess I was one of the lucky ones as I cannot remember any issues with the hotel food. I do remember having to leave at the crack of dawn that year and Profstokes still whooping it up in the lobby at 5 am. Maybe with all that energy she could start running the future fest. I think I also remember a hangover sometime that weekend. :P
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Midnite on April 07, 2007, 07:05:31 PM
Ack, poor Joeytrom!

$249? Who are they kidding? You can get a room in Midtown Manhattan for less than that even if you figure in a car or train ride into the city.

Exactly.  As it is now, they drop it to $149 by making you lose the $129 Fest rate.  I wonder if it's too late for Pierson to renegotiate this with the hotel.  Otherwise, I'm outta there Sunday morning and having breakfast elsewhere.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: loril54 on April 07, 2007, 11:27:28 PM
I hope that you don't think that I'm really trying to be negitive, but I had a great idea, they could do a taping and then donate the proceads above cost to a charity. Don't hey do an Auction every year? I don't think that it would take away from the people coming to the fest, going to the dealers room, and getting the stars there.  Plus Dan and others could even get the word out and make DS even more widely remembered.

I hope that everyone has a great time and gets to see all of their friends. Maybe someday I'll get to meet all the people I have meet on line.

What are they going to do with all the people that have cell phones take them away.???
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: joe integlia on April 07, 2007, 11:32:34 PM
i dunno but most celphones can only take a few seconds of video. mine does 15 second videos
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: loril54 on April 08, 2007, 12:28:58 AM
With a Blackberry hocked up the internet and then hocked up to your computer you could download a lot. Most blackberry  and type phones used unlimted internet. These are alot more capable than just GSM phone.  People have down loaded movies to their phones.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Bobubas on April 08, 2007, 12:29:40 AM
Exactly.  As it is now, they drop it to $149 by making you lose the $129 Fest rate.  I wonder if it's too late for Pierson to renegotiate this with the hotel.  Otherwise, I'm outta there Sunday morning and having breakfast elsewhere.

The El Dorado (formally known as the Tarrytown diner) has a wonderful breakfest selection, and is only minutes from the Marriott.  I'll meet you there Midnite. ;)
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: adamsgirl on April 08, 2007, 12:40:53 AM
My experience with the food in Tarrytown was that the diner Bobubas just mentioned was so-so, and the prices definitely didn't match the quality (or lack of) of the food. I did, however, eat at the hotel and enjoyed the food and the service. I even had a room-service breakfast one morning which was fabulous. As for Ruth's Chris, I love that place, but it wasn't in my budget. For those of you who CAN splurge, you just have to eat there! Believe me, their steaks are just out of this world!

Now, I have an observation about the mystery guest and the reason the fest is in New York again: Could it be that this particular someone wanted a venue that was close enough to drive/fly to without too much time and trouble? Hmmm? Any guesses?

Oh, one other thing: Those of you who are upset it's in New York again, there was that Halloween event in Hollywood last October. I know it wasn't a fest, per se, but many of us here on the East Coast wanted to fly out but couldn't for just one night. So, in effect, the West Coast hasn't completely been shut out, IMHO.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: DLA75 on April 08, 2007, 01:46:11 AM
I will proably drive the 70 Miles up the Garden State Parkway across the New York border onto to 287 Over the Tappan Zee to Tarrytown both days and save the cost of a room. Since the cost of gas is around $20  for the 2 days
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: ProfStokes on April 08, 2007, 05:15:38 AM
Those of you who are upset it's in New York again, there was that Halloween event in Hollywood last October. I know it wasn't a fest, per se, but many of us here on the East Coast wanted to fly out but couldn't for just one night. So, in effect, the West Coast hasn't completely been shut out, IMHO.
I looked at that event as compensation for the West Coasters who didn't get to attend the milestone 40th Anniversary in New York. If it was supposed to count for both 2006 and 2007, I would have rather not had the Halloween Party at all.  :(  Not only did I find it underwhelming, it was a disappointment to a friend from work who attended with me. She is an original fan who didn't know but there were still DS events; that Halloween bash was her first.  She was really excited about it and looked forward to meeting all of the actors. Unfortunately, because the event ran late and was scheduled in the middle of the work week, she had to leave before getting any autographs. I know she was also hoping the Fest would be in the LA area so she could have another shot at it.

Nancy, just out of curiosity, how did the Fest organizers figure out that New York was the more desirable location?  Was there a survey recently?

ProfStokes

 
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Phil on April 08, 2007, 05:41:59 AM
Booked! Even if the show is a wash, it'll be a nice couple days in New England for me and the wife. That's a cute little area up there.

I was only up for Saturday in Brooklyn, but the hard part for any of these kinds of gatherings is making new friends.  Horror cons are the worst, but in any genre-specific gathering, you never know who's friendly and who's ornery and territorial...
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Nancy on April 08, 2007, 05:58:32 AM
The criteria given was based on having done the festivals for twenty five years.  The crowds are normally much larger in New York than California and having the houses, the studio location and the theater handy was another reason. Remember, most of those people involved with the festival also live in California and have to fly to NYC.  They pay for their own room,board and plane ticket.  So it is not convenient for them either.  Those involved the fests are the ones who get the reactions and letters from fans about the festivals and have done so for decades. That's just to answer your question about whether or not there was a survey. :)

It is another milestone this year and I'm surprised no one has mentioned it: this year marks the 40th anniversary of the arrival of Barnabas Collins.

Nancy

Nancy, just out of curiosity, how did the Fest organizers figure out that New York was the more desirable location?  Was there a survey recently?
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: MsCriseyde on April 08, 2007, 06:01:27 AM
It is another milestone this year and I'm surprised no one has mentioned it: this year marks the 40th anniversary of the arrival of Barnabas Collins.
That's because we're too busy gearing up for the 40th anniversary of the arrival of Quentin Collins next year.  :P
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Angelique Wins on April 08, 2007, 06:31:45 AM
Count me in!  I'm planning on going to the 2/3rds Fest, however, I'm another Californian who was really looking forward to not having to spend the entire day on a plane to get there.  Yeah, yeah, I know it's only 5 hours, but that's actual air time--not connecting-flight-to-your-particular-part-of-the-state time, or waiting-for-luggage time, or-looking-for-your-ride time, or sitting-on-the-runway-at-JFK-for-45-minutes time, although I WILL be glad to be able to bring my own bottle of WATER on the plane with me (plane water--EW!!!).

I'm anxious to see the schedule of events knowing we're missing all of Sunday. but I have a question for any locals or well-travelled folks.  Since I'm going to be so close to where my dad grew up (North Attleboro, MA/Providence, RI), I'm wondering does anybody who is going hail from that direction?  Any local tips about transport?  How do I get to there from here (here being the Tarrytown Marriot).  I know I can consult The Great Oracle at Google, or go Mapquesting, but I thought I'd see if anybody had any particular suggestions along those lines.

Just in the planning stage, don't know how much time I can take off from work, but I'm DEFINITELY coming to the Fest!!!  Hope to see lots of you there.  I'll miss you, Prof. Stokes!!!

Thanks,

Judy
 [angl] 
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Midnite on April 08, 2007, 06:35:54 AM
That's because we're too busy gearing up for the 40th anniversary of the arrival of Quentin Collins next year.  :P

Amen to that!

Thanks, Bobubas.  :D
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: CyrusL on April 08, 2007, 07:21:19 AM
For those of you who have been to Tarrytown before--

I'm thinking of going to this year's fest. I want to go, but things haven't been taken care of just yet on my end. So, what I'm wanting to know is:

1. What's Tarrytown like? Is it town-ish, or is it more bustling and busy?
2. Are thing far away from the hotel? Is the hotel in the "city"?
3. Would you recommend driving? (I don't think I could get mum on a plane, and the train from here would be like $300!!!)

Any other help you could provide would be great! Thanks!

Hello everyone here at the DSBoards. I apologize for my long absence and I have missed everyone. Nothing sinister, I will make another post elsewhere soon on some personal notes.

I fully realize the Tarrytown show is not the best venue for many of the fans, perhaps even a majority. However, for Diane and I its is serendipity. We had not planned on going to California this year, and this sudden decision will actually allow us to attend, mainly we being east coasters and can drive up.

To give my input on Brandon's queries, ...
1.) Tarrytown is small town-like, but one of a series of villages up and down the Hudson. Its kind of the edge or suburbia and a mountain/valley spots. The roads can get congested at times because many of them were never designed for much traffic.
2.) As someone previously noted, the hotel is outside the actual town, so not much of anything is accessible by walking, or really safe to walk to. It is pretty adjacent to the state (is it interstate) highway, right off the exit.
3.) Unlike the NYC shows, or the Hollywood show, this spot is best served by driving. Otherwise, as noted, dining is severely restricted.

On dining, Diane and I had good luck with the nearby El Dorado dinner, I never expect NY prices to be Waffle House anyway, anymore than I would expect Elvis's "American Trilogy" to be on the jukebox there either.  ;) Likewise, if you do drive into Tarrytown Sleepy Hallow, I also recommend "The Horseman" Diner, about 10 minutes from the Marriott.

On the Marriott, on the downside, we also had one day where it took about an hour to get some sandwiches at their grill. They seemed totally unprepared for the convention, but breakfast there was okay. on the upside, they have a pretty nice pool which is indoors but had a skylight that opened when the weather accommodates.

Again, if you have a car, you can cross over the Tappan Zee Bridge over to NJ and there is an "Uber-Mall," probably one of the 4-5 biggest in the US. It has a large number of eateries like a Chinese buffet and a Cheescake Factory. They have pretty much one of any mall store you might want, from Sears and Macy's to Brookstones and Best Buy or some such. It takes maybe 15 minutes to get there.

The Washington Irving home just south of Lyndhurst was pretty cool place to drop by. The house itself was pretty unique and you not only get some insight on Irving and what made him a pioneer American writer, but some real perspective on life on the Hudson in the early 19th century.

The Sleepy Hollow Cemetery is well worth a visit. Somewhere in there are the Mausoleums used in the first movie. Maybe one day, someone can tell me specifically which one, lol.  ::) Nonetheless, the first part of the cemetery has the old Dutch section where the real person who inspired "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow" characters are resting. We lucked upon a guided tour once, I can't guarantee when or if they still have them. Washington Irving himself is close by the old church too. Some other of the notables interred there include Elizabeth Arden, Andrew Carnegie, Walter Chrysler, Parker Fennely, Samuel Gompers, William Rockefeller and Harry Helmsley.

You can daytrip from Tarrytown up to Poughkepsie, home of the Culinary Institute of America and college. West Point is also less than two hours away and has two types of tours, a short 2-3 hours, and a longer more extensive one as well. We took the shorter one and still had a great time. It has a tenuous connection to DS in that Edgar Allan Poe once attended there and they will debunk the common myth that he was expelled for spending too much time at Benny Havens Tavern. Quite honestly, the whole drive we did up the river and back down again has really stuck with me for the past few years as enjoyable and well worth it.

Again, the last Tarrytown Show did have a different feel from the NY/CA shows, but I think you can make the most of it. Anyway, Diane and I think if these shows, as I've said before, as like "family reunions" of the DS fans. For that reason alone, we'd hate to miss it.

Michael
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: loril54 on April 08, 2007, 10:11:58 AM
It is another milestone this year and I'm surprised no one has mentioned it: this year marks the 40th anniversary of the arrival of Barnabas Collins.

That was one reason I was hoping it was going to be on the west coast, I was thnking of going. OH Well I hope they have a tape. I'm getting old I am repeating myself.

Hey don't forget the 18th of this month a Wednesday. JF arriving with a hat.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: MsCriseyde on April 08, 2007, 04:25:20 PM
Booked! Even if the show is a wash, it'll be a nice couple days in New England for me and the wife. That's a cute little area up there.
Umm, Tarrytown and the rest of the state of New York are not considered to be part of New England. I know someone on here from Maine who will probably have a heart attack if she sees this. (She also gets really bent out of shape about Tom Bosley's accent on Murder, She Wrote, so I reference it frequently.)  ;) But it is most definitely a cute area.  :)
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Phil on April 08, 2007, 08:50:23 PM
I WILL be glad to be able to bring my own bottle of WATER on the plane with me (plane water--EW!!!).

AS long as you buy it after security's checkpoint. There are recent regulations about bringing liquids. It's a pain.

With certain exceptions for prescription and over-the-counter medicines, baby formula and breast milk, and other essential liquids, gels, and aerosols, the following rules apply to all liquids, gels, and aerosols you want to carry through a security checkpoint.

All liquids, gels and aerosols must be in three-ounce or smaller containers. Larger containers that are half-full or toothpaste tubes rolled up are not allowed. Each container must be three ounces or smaller.
All liquids, gels and aerosols must be placed in a single, quart-size, zip-top, clear plastic bag. Gallon size bags or bags that are not zip-top such as fold-over sandwich bags are not allowed. Each traveler can use only one, quart-size, zip-top, clear plastic bag.
Each traveler must remove their quart-sized plastic, zip-top bag from their carry-on and place it in a bin or on the conveyor belt for X-ray screening. X-raying separately will allow TSA security officers to more easily examine the declared items.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 08, 2007, 10:24:11 PM
That's because we're too busy gearing up for the 40th anniversary of the arrival of Quentin Collins next year.

Lies, lies, lies!! Everyone knows that the really big and most important anniversary that people are already gearing up for is the 40th anniversary of the arrival of Amanda Harris in 2009!!  >:D  Everything else pales in comparison. And how could it possibly be otherwise?! Barnabas?? Julia?? Angelique?? Quentin?? Mere footnotes in DS history!!  ::)
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: loril54 on April 08, 2007, 10:58:39 PM
How about Roger Davis, is there someone that might want to remember him.

Not quite as good as Julia and Barnabas and Sarah. There is Jerry Lacy, he played some charactors we loved to hate. .
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: MsCriseyde on April 08, 2007, 11:29:36 PM
Everyone knows that the really big and most important anniversary that people are already gearing up for is the 40th anniversary of the arrival of Amanda Harris in 2009!!
I thought you were going to complain about how the pen was snubbed last year.  >:D
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 08, 2007, 11:32:51 PM
Compared to Amanda, even THE pen is simply a footnote.  [wink2]
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: adamsgirl on April 09, 2007, 12:14:28 AM
Well, getting back to the 40th anniversary of the appearance of Jonathan Frid as Barnabas on DS, who wants to guess that he could be the "mystery guest?" Me? My money's on that!
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: loril54 on April 09, 2007, 12:44:35 AM
It would be quite a feat if he came, with his recent fall and his age I don't think he would want to fly, maybe in a private plane, but I don't think that the fest would cover that. He might send a Video tape or another phone call. But I would llike to be wrong. Even though I couldn't be there.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Phil on April 09, 2007, 01:16:44 AM
Doesn't he live near Toronto? It's a multiple hour drive, but it could be done.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: adamsgirl on April 09, 2007, 01:29:16 AM
Yes, he lives in Canada, but I'm not sure of the exact locale, although Toronto sounds about right. As far as his health goes, from what I hear, he's still very much a vibrant, active gentleman. I think he's more than up to attending, and what a treat that would be for us fans! Again, I'm betting he's the mystery guest.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: loril54 on April 09, 2007, 02:33:07 AM
I didn't mean that JF was in poor health, just meant that as you get older it harder and harder to get a round. I'm over 50 and I use a black quad cane. Go look at Jonathan Web page and the funny charicature. http://www.jonathanfrid.com/main06.htm.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: MsCriseyde on April 09, 2007, 02:52:15 AM
[deadhorse] Let's beat a dead horse some more.  ;D

In all of this talk of how LA is somehow "owed" a Festival, while the rest of us schmucks in the middle of the country have to fly no matter what, folks seem to be forgetting that there was another DS-related event besides the Halloween party. John Karlen, Lara Parker, and Kathryn Leigh Scott did a February signing of the DS audios in Burbank. True, it's not a full-fledged Fest, but it's difficult to buy into the notion that fans in LA are somehow lacking in opportunities to attend DS-related events.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Nancy on April 09, 2007, 04:13:35 AM
There have been showings of HODS and NODS as well that were west coast.  I know some folks flew in from the east coast and the middle of the country to attend.

The fans who live in the middle of the country are always inconvenienced in terms of where the festival is held.  Like anything else, you  go to what is feasible.  I love catching up with friends I've met through DS and look forward to the east coast festival which is very convenient for me.  The west coast is not so I don't go and wait for the next year. 8)

Nancy

[deadhorse] Let's beat a dead horse some more.  ;D

In all of this talk of how LA is somehow "owed" a Festival, while the rest of us schmucks in the middle of the country have to fly no matter what, folks seem to be forgetting that there was another DS-related event besides the Halloween party. John Karlen, Lara Parker, and Kathryn Leigh Scott did a February signing of the DS audios in Burbank. True, it's not a full-fledged Fest, but it's difficult to buy into the notion that fans in LA are somehow lacking in opportunities to attend DS-related events.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: LdyAnne on April 10, 2007, 02:05:13 AM
[deadhorse] Let's beat a dead horse some more.  ;D

In all of this talk of how LA is somehow "owed" a Festival, while the rest of us schmucks in the middle of the country have to fly no matter what, folks seem to be forgetting that there was another DS-related event besides the Halloween party. John Karlen, Lara Parker, and Kathryn Leigh Scott did a February signing of the DS audios in Burbank. True, it's not a full-fledged Fest, but it's difficult to buy into the notion that fans in LA are somehow lacking in opportunities to attend DS-related events.

I'll second that MsCriseyde, We poor souls in the South are out of luck all the way around and we have one of the most active Fan Clubs in the country based in Orlando and headed by Patrick McCann. How about have some Dark Shadows in the Sunshine Stae for a change?

Oh but lest I forget a big thank you to (you know who your are) for getting us a David Selby book signing  ;D

LdyAnne
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Nancy on April 10, 2007, 04:22:02 AM
JF lives about 7 hours from Tarrytown.

Nancy

Doesn't he live near Toronto? It's a multiple hour drive, but it could be done.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: David on April 10, 2007, 07:15:37 AM
Just a thought, thrown in out of left field:
Smaller festvals happening less often indicates that DS fandom might be shrinking.


DS on the air brings in new fans, which is needed to keep the franchise going.
I've seen posters here say they don't care if the series airs or not, they have their DVDS.
I've seen posters say they don't want a new series, the original is enough.

Think again folks: DS on the air, whether in reruns or a new series, is what will bring in new fans and return fandom to it's former size.
Support the DVDs to be sure, they're wonderful to have.
But support any and all efforts to get DS back on the air as well.

David
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: EmeraldRose on April 11, 2007, 10:24:16 AM
Just thought I'd let everyone know here that I've decided to attend the next DS Fest! [cheer] I booked the plane, hotel, and car rental.  [thumbright] Of course, I have to wait to purchase the actual DS Fest ticket - the DS Fest website still hasn't been updated yet. [sadg]

----- Sally -----
[coolg]
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: adamsgirl on April 11, 2007, 07:58:59 PM
That's great news, Sally! Can't wait to see you again!:)
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: darkshadowsrick on April 14, 2007, 07:27:02 AM
This will be my 15th Festival in a row, so of course I've been to both East and West coast festivals, w/ 1 being in Las Vegas.  Over the years I've noticed the bigger crowds at the NY festivals.  Especially in the 90's, at the Marriott Marquis, and when Dark Shadows was being run at the same time on Sci Fi, the crowds were much bigger too.  I've been told that they don't do cities in the Mid-west, South, ect., as 1/2 of the actors live on the East coast, and the other 1/2 live on the West.  It is cheaper to fly half of them to one coast or another,  than the whole cast to a location in-between.  Although, Chris Pennock told me personally last year, that they did not pay his plane fare to Brooklyn from CA.   As far as the restaurants go, the food isn't bad at the Hotels in NY, but the service was terrible in both Brooklyn and Tarrytown.   Also very pricey.  The service and bar/restaurants were much better at the CA hotels, both at LAX and Anaheim. The bartenders/wait staff friendlier there.   Also Hollywood was good.  Plus there were many more places to eat outside the hotel, there.  Nothing is perfect, unfortunately.  I live in Upstate NY, so personally, going to CA is a better vacation for me.  But a much more expensive trip.  I'm sorry that Prof. Stokes can't go, I look forward to seeing her every year!  But I understand, I couldn't afford to go to CA two years in a row, either.  As for the special guest, I'm assuming they're referring to either Jonathan Frid, or Alexandra Moltke.  Those are the only two that would be 'that' special.  I think they are being cautious, though, announcing anyone specifically--- in case the special guest thing doesn't work out.  I hope for everyone's sake it does, though.  I look forward to seeing all of those that can go.  I miss you all,  Rick
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Teresa on April 14, 2007, 01:32:44 PM
    As for the special guest, I'm assuming they're referring to either Jonathan Frid, or Alexandra Moltke.  Those are the only two that would be 'that' special.  I think they are being cautious, though, announcing anyone specifically--- in case the special guest thing doesn't work out.  I hope for everyone's sake it does, though.  I look forward to seeing all of those that can go.  I miss you all,  Rick
I thought it said an exclusive guest would be on Saturday. My thought is that they just mean one person on Saturday the whole day belongs to or centers on. Not necessarily someone special like Frid or Moltke. That indeed would be special. I think it would be cool since we will be at Lyndhurst and alll to have Kate Jackson there. But either way I am looking forward to seeing everyone again.
Teresa 8)
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Brandon Collins on April 14, 2007, 05:16:19 PM
I too am hoping for either Frid, Moltke, or Jackson as the special guest. But I'm not getting my hopes up or anything. If it is, great! If it's not, I'm going to have a good time anyway.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: dom on April 15, 2007, 12:16:51 PM
David Henesy would also qualify as a very special mystery guest.

If it were Frid, it would be cool to hear him, AM, & NB recreate the 'Josette story' scene (from the early years) with sound and visual fx.

Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: michael c on April 15, 2007, 05:36:25 PM
i'll play debbie downer here but if the "big three" holdouts(jonathan,alexandra and kate)didn't come to the big fortieth anniversary fest in new york i doubt that they'll bother with the smaller two day event in tarrytown.

kathryn,lara and diana have books to sell.karlen and selby seem to come out of a sense of tradition.

jonathan is retired and for whatever reason alexandra and kate have chosen to distance themselves from this event.i could be wrong but(and i hope i am)but i can't see any of them in tarrytown. :(
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: joe integlia on April 15, 2007, 07:15:23 PM
i can agree. i broke my "only attend west coast events" rule last year with the hopes they would get special guests for the 40th anniversary and there were none.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: dom on April 15, 2007, 09:50:40 PM
You know, if Frid were to attend a fest, I think it would be very smart for the organizers to book the fest at a venue that was very large because I would expect an appearance by Frid to increase the fest attendence by hundreds. Tarrytown didn't strike me as a good venue for an exceptionally large gathering.

Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Nancy on April 15, 2007, 11:52:35 PM
Actually JF might consider the holding capacity of the Tarrytown venue TOO BIG for his liking.  He simply is not able to deal with thousands of people and the last thing he would want to do is to commit to being there and sign autographs and then get tired and have to stop in the middle of it (as Joan Bennett had to do several times).  A smaller venue would appeal to Frid, not a larger one.

Frid's idea of a good time at a fan event is being in the presence of between 100-300 fans, mingling and maybe do a reading or two. A lot more than that now is overwhelming.  He has led a pretty quiet life since 1993.

Nancy

You know, if Frid were to attend a fest, I think it would be very smart for the organizers to book the fest at a venue that was very large because I would expect an appearance by Frid to increase the fest attendence by hundreds. Tarrytown didn't strike me as a good venue for an exceptionally large gathering.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Midnite on April 18, 2007, 05:27:00 PM
... the 40th anniversary of the arrival of Barnabas Collins.
Which would be, well, TODAY.   [clap]
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: loril54 on April 18, 2007, 07:42:35 PM
Hey are we going to have any floaties in honor of JF. I really don't think that Jonathan will come, but he might do a video again or do a call. That would be great. Then they need to make the the event stream live for us that can't come. I know I'm dreaming.  I think it might be someone Alexandra M, or David H.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on April 18, 2007, 07:50:33 PM
There is a floaty planned for later in the week, but it has nothing to do with JF or Barn. Actually, it's the return of a popular floaty from last year which commemorated one of the most infamous days in DS history. Perhaps you recall it?  ;)  But if not, you and everyone else will soon be reminded...
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: CallieWL on May 06, 2007, 04:57:26 AM
Who here remembers when there were Fests on both the West and East coasts every year? But those days are long gone.  ::sigh::

I remember MB. It was 1991 to be exact.  ;D  Los Angeles in June and Thanksgiving weekend in NY.  Ah, the good ole days.  :)

I remember those years.  It was financially, physically, and psychologically draining to go to two fests in a year.  Being the middle of the country, I had to fly for both.  We started to get pretty burned out doing that.  Going down to once a year was a blessing.  I was disappointed, though, that this one is not only half a "DS Weekend" but that it's in Tarrytown.  I do like the town (some excellent restaurants there), but the hotel is not convenient at all, and the big city attractions are a lot more trouble to get to.
I also remember what Janet was talking about at the bar and the lousy waiter accusing us of stiffing him on the bill.  For a NY fest, I'd rather it be in or close to Manhattan.  But since they dragged their feet for so long making the date announcement, I don't have the time off coming to do more than go just for the event and go home.  I know other people in the same position for the same reason.  Maybe that'll make it smaller and more managable.  Seems a shame, though.  Oh well....
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Phil on May 13, 2007, 06:41:40 PM
Hey guys - any idea when we will know about event tickets going on sale? I'm not subscribed to any newsletter, so if that's the way to get it, can you point me toward where I would subscribe to such a thing? Thanks, much love-

HC
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on May 13, 2007, 07:49:29 PM
That news still has yet to be released. But as soon as it is, you can be sure it'll be posted on this board.  :)
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: joe integlia on May 14, 2007, 01:25:21 AM
yes the festival operates backwards. they sell out the hotel first, then they announce the convention details, then you can buy the tickets! lol
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Angelique Wins on May 17, 2007, 08:53:12 PM
Hey guys - any idea when we will know about event tickets going on sale? I'm not subscribed to any newsletter, so if that's the way to get it, can you point me toward where I would subscribe to such a thing?

Hey HC, Probably the best thing to do is to send in an SASE to the DSFestivalFolks.  That way, you could be on their mailing list and would get the info without having to wait for it to be posted.

Judy  [angl]
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on May 17, 2007, 09:13:21 PM
It's never a bad idea to get on the Fest's mailing list. But at the same time, the Fest doesn't mail out all the SASEs on the same day - and they don't all arrive at fans' homes all on the same day. So, even if one sends a SASE, it's no guarantee to receive the news before it's posted here.  ;)  However, it is often a good way to get your hands on the mail-in form before it's ever posted on the Fest's Web site.  :-   (Not that one positively needs the form to pay for a Fest membership, though...)
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: michael c on May 20, 2007, 06:01:38 PM
i received the festival mailing yesterday.

as i suspected the two day "celebration" is really more of a one day event.friday's activities don't start until 6pm.what with hotel check-in and all of the registration fuss that really only leaves saturday as a full day of scheduled events.

thus far only kathryn leigh scott,lara parker and marie wallace are on board in addition of course to jonathan frid(no diana millay?!).i can't believe karlen would pass up the opportunity to reunite with frid.

i don't get the fest this year.why when they get the show's biggest draw(frid)in attendence did they decide to scale back the whole thing and relegate it to an out of the way location?has anyone spoken to any of the organizers for the reasoning behind this? ???
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on May 20, 2007, 06:19:39 PM
I believe it's because Frid prefers the smaller size/venue.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Miranda on May 20, 2007, 09:26:34 PM
Ah, so Lara will be there, too, very good!! I know it would be great if JK was there, too, he and Jonathan was always fond of each other, but Judy we get J and L at a Fest together, all right!!
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Teresa on May 21, 2007, 08:11:45 PM
Although I think it would be nice to have a full fledged reunion I think with Mr Frid being there most of the interest will be directed toward him. I'm looking forward to a more intimate gathering myself.
Title: Re: Shadowgram Update #167 (Fest Dates & Location)
Post by: Nancy on May 21, 2007, 11:04:51 PM
i don't get the fest this year.why when they get the show's biggest draw(frid)in attendence did they decide to scale back the whole thing and relegate it to an out of the way location?has anyone spoken to any of the organizers for the reasoning behind this? ???

I was told by Jim (Pierson) that the plan was all along (before Frid signed on) was to have a small, day long event as has been done in the past in New York.  The attraction for Frid in attending was finding out the event was so scaled back and more intimate.   It made him want to get involved especially as this is the year Barnabas turns 40, so to speak.


Nancy