DARK SHADOWS FORUMS
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I just played this trailer, which practically qualifies as a mini-episode of the new Sleepy Hollow series starting this evening (9/16)--I spotted a few visual and other references that suggest the "writers and producers of Star Trek" are big fans of the Burton/Depp DARK SHADOWS. Warning, SPOILERS if you plan to watch tonight (or record it and watch in the week), and you don't like spoilers, you'll probably want to wait and watch this trailer till AFTER you see the episode:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hFg9qS_u3w
When I was young, Ichabod Crane was a gawky, tremulous scholar. Now he's a hot, hunky soldier with an Oxbridge accent. Times change, and not just from the 18th to the 21st century...
G.
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There were more similarities with the Depp/DS film than I was anticipating. But as for the show itself, I enjoyed it, and I'll be tuning back to see how the mythology unfolds.
Also, the show did well in its first airing:
Ratings: Sleepy Hollow Opens Strong (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Ratings-Sleepy-Hollow-1070422.aspx)
Though what it needs to do is to hold on to a lot those numbers. Things will most probably slip next week because the ratings for new show almost universally slip for their second eps - but if it doesn't slip too much, the show may turn out to be a hit. And if the current results in TV Guide's poll for the show is any indication, it may indeed hold on to a lot of those numbers because 87% of viewers in the poll voted that they liked the show.
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My friend (who I think became a fan of Tom Misor thanks to his role in PARADE'S END) was watching with Tumblr opened and said that she saw a new fandom being born. After the first ten minutes, the photos, screen captures, and fangirl ravings began to cluster thick and fast.
The trailer practically played like an homage to Depp Shadows. I have to say I would have enjoyed the latter a lot more had Barnabas been played along the lines of how Misor is portraying Ichabod Crane. But I'll spare you the rant.
G.
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Mega Buzz (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Mega-Buzz-Good-Wife-Greys-HIMYM-Spoilers-1070461.aspx)
(Scroll down to #10.)
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My friend (who I think became a fan of Tom Misor thanks to his role in PARADE'S END) was watching with Tumblr opened and said that she saw a new fandom being born. After the first ten minutes, the photos, screen captures, and fangirl ravings began to cluster thick and fast.
Speaking of Mr. Mison:
Fall TV 2013: Zap2it's Ones to Watch - Tom Mison, 'Sleepy Hollow' (http://www.zap2it.com/tv/fall-tv-preview/zap-fall-tv-2013-zap2its-ones-to-watch-pics,0,1364951.photogallery?index=14)
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That's a wonderful photo of him. He is one s-e-x-y gent.
G.
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For anyone who might have missed the pilot on Monday but might have wished they'd checked it out, there's good news because I see where it's repeating tonight at 9pm ET on FOX.
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It might be worth noting that the pilot is available for free download from iTunes. That's how I hope eventually to watch it. I downloaded it yesterday but haven't had time to sit down with it yet.
G.
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A really cute clip from next week's episode, Blood Moon, which is set to have a Witchcraft theme:
http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/09/20/sleepy-hollow-ichabod-crane-blood-moon-video/
G.
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Shades of the Depp/DS film again! [ghost_wink] Thanks for the link. [ghost_smiley]
A really cute clip
And I'm sure that has nothing to do with the fact that he's shirtless. [ghost_nowink]
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I know I'm on the edge of getting way off topic here, but if you look closely when Ichabod wakes up from his "sleep" in that very witchy cave, there's one shot that shows his adorably pert nipple with exquisite chiaroscuro...
Just in case anybody out there cares.
I'll try to stop repeating this, but honestly--had the Depp/Burton version of Barnabas in 1972 been done like this... I would have been much happier with the results. I played an interview today where Tom Mison mentioned that he had researched American speech patterns of the 1770s and tried playing the character with an authentic accent... the result was described as "inaudible" and "like pots and pans banging together." I've read that Colonial Americans spoke with very flat vowels and an intonation much like what is today thought of as the Yorkshire accent... Tom mentioned another part of England.
cheers, G.
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It's also On Demand. I hadn't really realized what this was until I saw the repeat listed and figured that's what was being talked about here! The timing of the repeat wasn't too convenient, so I checked out On Demand and saw it earlier today. On my Comcast system, it's only available until the 23rd.
I really didn't want to get "stuck" with another series to watch! But, I liked this, so, I'm probably stuck!!
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TV Guide Fall Preview: Check out our favorite Super Shows! (http://video.tvguide.com/Fall+Preview+Check+out+our+favorite+Super+Shows/20545937?primary=videochannels&primaryvalue=TV+Guide+Exclusives)
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A friend alerted me that this series is also available for free through hulu. Or at least episode one was available. I do not know if that means they will continue to carry it.
G.
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This is good news for the Live +3 Day numbers: FOX Highlights: 'Sleepy Hollow' Holds Strong In Week 2 (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/10/01/fox-highlights-sleepy-hollow-holds-strong-in-week-2-the-x-factor-delivers-its-highest-ratings-this-season/206228/)
And the show continued to do well in the Fast Overnights for its 3rd ep.
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I've been watching it on Fox.com via their full episode streaming. Aspects of it still seem a little clunky (the subject of the most recent episode, I won't spoil it but the "secret" between the sisters that I thought was very obvious, and also very understandable, seemed a little forced, though well executed). I really like both of the leads, and I think their charisma will help to keep us interested.
I loved the "What did they call you for short, Icky?" joke [hall2_grin]
I wonder if Ichabod is ever going to get a new jacket :)
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I haven't had the chance to watch the 3rd ep yet, but during the course of the second ep I did wonder why he was still wearing his 18th century jacket throughout. But then I figured that they might think of it as integral to helping to define his character, so we may be seeing it for some time to come. [hall2_wink]
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Even better news: FOX renews 'Sleepy Hollow' for Season 2 (http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2013/10/fox-renews-sleepy-hollow-for-season-2.html)
Though it would have been nice to have gotten 22 eps this season instead of 13. But then, the way things are working at some other networks, 13 ep (and even less) seasons may just become the new norm.
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I saw the news about the renewal and smiled, then heard that only 13 episodes were ordered for the first season, and my smile faded.
I wouldn't be surprised though if shorter seasons become the norm. It may be a strategy for the survival of drama (and other) series on television in today's market.
I was really surpised years ago when I got hold of an ADDAMS FAMILY episode guide (from the classic 1964-66 series) and saw that there were something like 30 episodes per season. Then a few years later I was going through a Peter Gunn episode guide and learned that in 1958-59, around 36 episodes was "a season."
Times have certainly changed! Aren't you glad! [hall_rolleyes]
(and I'll just comment that watching Sleepy Hollow on iTunes on an a la carte basis is WAY preferable to watching a "free" broadcast laden with pop-ups, banners, studio logos, and INCESSANT commercial "breaks".
G.
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More and more the networks and cable stations seem to be following the British model of making fewer than 22 eps a season. (Though in Great Britain they often make even fewer than 13 eps a season.) And when I'd posted earlier I'd completely forgotten that even from the outset the first season of SH was only supposed to last 13 eps because The Following is scheduled to return at midseason in SH's time slot. And it would have been nice if the SH renewal articles had reminded us of that instead of simply carrying the FOX Entertainment Chairman's quote that the 13 ep renewal will take the place of a back 9 pickup, which gives the false implication that the show's first season is being cut short in favor of renewing it for a second season. [hall2_rolleyes]
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yeah that new series 'hostages' about the doctor who's supposed to kill the president is just a fifteen episode series as well. although the plot itself of it does not lend itself to open endedness...
awhile back I was watching 'Dallas' on DVD and was stunned that each season had thirty episodes. such an order number for an expensive, ensemble cast drama largely shot on location would never happen today. the recent TNT revival of the series has just fifteen episodes as well. there was a fan dustup recently when the network announced it might break up those fifteen episodes into two "mini seasons" of seven and eight episodes each. i'm not sure if that's been resolved one way or another but the old television model is certainly breaking down.
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I think seasons of 10-13 episodes would be ideal. That seems to be the norm for cable series, and it could well be argued that cable sets the standard for quality in television series. With a 22 episode season, many shows either run out of steam or repeat themselves; a shorter season would give the creative team more time for story and script development. Moreover, a shorter season might allow for greater availability of on-screen talent (since they wouldn't need to commit for such a huge part of the year). Plus, it might end up allowing for more diversity in programming, and hopefully fewer pre-emptions and schedule shuffling once a particular series starts its season.
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Personally, I have really come to love 10-13 episode seasons for TV shows. The shows are more tightly written and don't have to put in a lot of filler to stretch them out. There are so many good dramas on TV nowadays with this format, and I guess I've gotten used to the idea and quite like it. I hadn't heard about Sleepy Hollow's renewal, so I'm thrilled to hear about that!
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I've watched each episode so far and while I like and enjoy the show the only thing that is really keeping me interested is the charisma of the two two leads and my interest in seeing how the mythology of the show plays out. Hopefully as the season progresses the show will become better and loose the traditional horror/suspense/mystery tropes that we are all used to. I would also like to see the show lose a little bit of the he procedural aspect because I think it makes it boring. However, in this day and ago procedural shows tend to do better due to the limited patience and attention spans of there viewing audience.
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Sleepy Hollow must be doing well. I started watching that and Blacklist. Both are on at a time when I not only can't watch, but am recording other things, so I've been getting them on On Demand. When I went to On Demand today, both programs were listed right at the top. One didn't even have to go to the TV Shows category first - they were categories in themselves. So, I would assume that there is great demand for it to be listed like that.
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I'm also still enjoying the show very much, but I agree about the procedural aspect and hope that this won't end up being a "baddie of the week" kind of thing. Some of that may be fine but I want to see a longer term story, too. Buffy, Angel, and Fringe, to name a few, were able to strike a good balance, so I'm hoping this can, too. So far I'm liking this show the best of the 3 new shows I'm watching (The Blacklist: promising but I may grow tired of the format, though I am adoring James Spader, The Hostages: a hot mess but I'm sticking it out for now).
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In some ways the show reminds me of Fringe, certainly with the way its background mythology is working into things. But then, many of the same people who worked on Fringe are working on Sleepy Hollow, so that probably accounts for some of it.
I watched the third ep last night, and I do have to say that the opening scene in which Crane interacted with the lady from Northstar Assistance came across as something that Depp's Barn might have easily done in a similar situation. Not to take away one iota from Tom Mison's delivery, which was superb, but the entire time I could also picture Depp playing the scene the exact same way. And I could also similarly picture Depp's Barn delivering some of Crane's humorous asides. But then, Crane and Barn are from similar time periods in the 18th century, so there are bound to be similarities in language and delivery.
Hopefully I'll get to the fourth ep before too long.
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This is certainly interesting: 'Sleepy Hollow' Premiere Hits 25 Million With DVR, VOD and Streaming (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/10/10/sleepy-hollow-premiere-hits-25-million-with-dvr-vod-and-streaming/208286/)
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Sleepy Hollow Reveals Major Game Changer (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Sleepy-Hollow-Reveals-Game-Changer-1072026.aspx)
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Mison has an inner "flouncing tart" ... now I *really* think I am in love...
G.
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Tonight's episode is a repeat of the first one, in case anyone is interested in that.
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Mison has an inner "flouncing tart" ... now I *really* think I am in love...
I was very happy to see the article make reference to the Northstar assistance scene because that's one of my favorite scenes in the show so far. The more eps we get, the more I'm really beginning to wonder if the writers aren't taking a page from some of the bits in the Depp/DS film. If not, then they independently developed a very similar taste in fish-out-of-water befuddlement with regard to 18th century men. [hall2_wink]
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Tonight's episode is a repeat of the first one, in case anyone is interested in that.
Thanks for mentioning that, Josette. [hall2_smiley]
I thought that it was odd to have a repeat so soon until I read that, now that the show is such a hit, apparently FOX is repeating the pilot for those who may have missed the initial set up of the show. Even that seemed a bit odd at first because there are multiple places on the Internet where someone could watch the pilot, but FOX's thinking is that not everyone has access to the Internet.
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The show is supposedly on hiatus now till sometime in early November, I presume to help take advantage of the ratings "sweeps" (which seem really archaic to me, but don't ask me to explain behavior of the people who run the "industry"). Since there's such a huge buzz around it, perhaps they're going to fill in the time by repeating the first five episodes.
G.
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The show will only be a repeat this week. Next week it's preempted for the fifth game of the World Series. Then Ep #6 will be coming on November 4th - and chances are very good it will be new eps throughout all of November Sweeps.
Now that the show has become a hit, I'm seeing the backlash start. I can't believe how many articles there have been recently that complain that the show requires too much of its audience because the audience has to pay attention, what with the flashbacks and dreams, or they risk not picking up all the plot points. My God, what is wrong with these people?! Well, unless they think that the show should be so mundane that they should be able to mentally make up their grocery list for the week, talk on the phone, post tweets, and who knows what else, all while watching the show. [hall2_rolleyes] Whatever happened to the notion of simply watching a show and only watching the show? That's what I do, and I have no problems whatsoever following along. Perhaps more of today's audience should give that a try instead of multitasking with who knows how many other things while they watch TV. And quite honestly, the fact that the show isn't mundane is one of the biggest things that makes it so interesting. People should be happy there are shows that possibly stimulate their brains rather than treat them like mindless clods.
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Anyone with On Demand who needs the remaining episodes can probably still get it. On my system, each episode initially shows it as being available for a week. Last week they had changed that to Nov. 4, 11, etc. I was going to post that, when last night it changed. The 2nd one is still listed for Nov. 11, but all the others had Oct. 21!! Now tonight, all that changed again and they are until Oct. 24.
It's really weird, but if you need to catch up, you probably have at least a couple of days!! (This is from Comcast.)
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MB, a friend of mine whose teenaged daughter just left for college described how she watches television. She typically marathons through half a season or more of episodes on a given weekend while chatting with her friends, doing her homework, having a playlist on, and for all I know painting her toenails as well.
It seems as if a number of adults have the same habit. Overstimulated much?
The opposite extreme is represented by a couple of people who ban phone calls when the new True Blood airs...
G.
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FOX announced today that the season finale for SH will be on January 20th.
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TV Wigs: Tricks or Treats? - Tom Mison, Sleepy Hollow (http://www.tvguide.com/special/fall-preview/PhotoGallery/Best-Worst-TV-Wigs-1072523/1072529)
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'Sleepy Hollow': Watch the first 8 minutes of 'The Sin Eater' now (http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2013/11/sleepy-hollow-watch-the-first-8-minutes-of-the-sin-eater-now.html)
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The Secret to Sleepy Hollow's Success Is Abbie Mills (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Sleepy-Hollow-Abbie-1072972.aspx)
Though several of the comments seem to disagree.
Personally, I don't think it's any one thing that makes the show a success - it's the show as a whole, just as I've always thought it was/is with DS. Though it's certainly great to have a central female character like Abbie who's such a strong individual. But then, TPTB behind the show have already established that sort of track record, with Olivia of Fringe being another perfect example.
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Abbie is a great character--hip without being flip, if that makes any sense. She and Mison have great onscreen chem together.
I have to admit I got into the series because Tom Mison is just so unbelievably adorable, both in looks AND persona, but how the Ichabod/Abbie relationship was written definitely helped make me think the show was worth more than just a bit of eye candy.
G.
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“Sleepy Hollow” Returns! Tom Mison Talks About Playing Ichabod Crane (http://tv.blog.imdb.net/2013/11/01/sleepy-hollow-returns-tom-mison-talks-about-playing-ichabod-crane/)
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'Sleepy Hollow' is the funniest show about Colonial America and horror mythology on TV (http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2013/11/sleepy-hollow-is-the-funniest-show-about-colonial-america-and-horror-mythology-on-tv.html)
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It's certainly getting good. It was exciting from the beginning, but now it's REALLY getting exciting! And I'm so glad that her boss has had proof.
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November sweeps: 'Sleepy Hollow' (http://www.zap2it.com/news/pictures/zap-new-girl-parenthood-and-more-november-sweeps-best-worst-20131115,0,5089135.photogallery?index=38)
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Sleepy Hollow to Reveal the Headless Horseman's Past (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Sleepy-Hollow-Alex-Kurtzman-Spoilers-1073523.aspx)
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Mega Buzz: Plus: Scoop on ..., Sleepy Hollow, ... (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Mega-Buzz-Greys-Bones-Spoilers-1073647.aspx)
(Scroll down to #5.)
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Orlando Jones tweets epic 'Sleepy Hollow,' 'Supernatural' crossover: 'Sleepynatural' (http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2013/11/orlando-jones-tweets-epic-sleepy-hollow-supernatural-crossover-sleepynatural.html)
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Top Moments: Plus: ..., Sleepy Hollow, ... (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Moments-Person-Interest-Letterman-1073774.aspx)
(Scroll to #6.)
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Sleepy Hollow Boss "Stunned" By Show's Success (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Sleepy-Hollow-Alex-Kurtzman-1073775.aspx)
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Mega Buzz: Plus: Scoop on ..., and Sleepy Hollow (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Mega-Buzz-Good-Wife-Blacklist-Spoilers-1073957.aspx)
(Scroll down to #10.)
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'Sleepy Hollow' gets two-hour season 1 finale on Jan. 20 (http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2013/12/sleepy-hollow-gets-two-hour-season-1-finale-on-jan-20.html)
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Thanks MB! This has been by far my favorite new show of the year. For some reason, I couldn't get into Dracula and gave up after about 3 episodes, though maybe I'll give it another chance sometime. I think it's that I just never warmed up to the lead. Hostages is ridiculous but I watch because at least it will have a definitive endpoint, and I'm hanging in with The Blacklist mainly for the wonderful James Spader. But for me, Sleepy Hollow has it all: two GREAT leads who have great chemistry together, an interesting premise, a great mix of tension and humor, and oh yeah, some nice eye candy, as well [santa_wink] I look forward to the finale and to next season!
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Ask Matt: Race on Sleepy Hollow, ... (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Ask-Matt-Sleepy-Hollow-1074405.aspx)
(The first letter.)
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TV's underrated stars of 2013: Zap2it's Year in Review - Orlando Jones, 'Sleepy Hollow' (http://www.zap2it.com/news/pictures/zap-tvs-underrated-stars-of-2013-zap2its-year-in-review-pics,0,3605487.photogallery?index=14)
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The Best Performances of 2013: Tom Mison, Sleepy Hollow (http://www.tvguide.com/PhotoGallery/Best-Performances-2013-1074308/1074327)
(And once again they cite the NorthStar scene. [santa_thumb])
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Why Sleepy Hollow Should Keep Their Big Secret Under Wraps (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Sleepy-Hollow-Secret-1075066.aspx)
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The 13 Best New TV Characters of 2013 (PHOTOS) - Ichabod Crane, Sleepy Hollow (http://www.wetpaint.com/tv/gallery/2013-12-27-13-best-new-characters#6)
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Yayyy, congrats to ichy, very well deserved as this is my favorite new show of the year! (Also love Tatiana Maslany and James Spader in their respective new roles) [8_2_59]