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Current Talk '06 II / So long, DSF!
« on: August 21, 2006, 11:40:21 PM »
This is likely my farewell post, and Bugsie's too. Such a short time ......  :'(

Unfortunately, the way the internet is nowadays, there are spammers who flood forums with junk, trying to hawk their wares forcefully. To defend against it, places like DSF have anti-flood timers in place that prevent posts too soon after the previous post. The timer prevents repeat posts from the same IP address. Well, we have DSL at home, and the whole household (5 PCs, wireless router and a common DSL line) has the same IP which is dynamically assigned by the ISP. There is no way to change that. My only other option would be to use dialup :o

That means that it is next to impossible for Bugsie and I to participate here because we likely would be on at the same time at many times during the day. Having that constant error message would take all the joy out of it. I've experienced it several times already.

It's a shame because we would probably have shot to the top of your posting ranks within a year because I personally have 28,000 posts on my forum, and Pam has about 24,000 :o We are no strangers to actively posting away, and we both expected to be very active here. But with that kind of anticipated activity from our IP, there's no way we could try to maneuver our posting here so as to avoid the timer, by assigning "your time to post" and "my time to post" :( It would be too frustrating for us. We have discussed it and we both agree.

While I have the anti-flood timers disabled on my own forum, and have had no trouble since all members must be activated by the admin before posting, I'm sure there are good reasons for having such a limitation here. I've already communicated my questions and feelings about this to Midnite, and Midnite has replied that this is an unavoidable feature that can't be disabled.

So, adios Dark Shadows Forums. It's been nice :)

I'll stop in a couple more times later to check PMs, in case Midnite finds a solution. I've got my fingers crossed :)

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: Hello DSF, Professor Stokes Here!
« on: August 21, 2006, 09:47:22 PM »
I particularly like how the relationship between Barnabas and Julia has gradually developed. Remember early on they were mortal enemies - Julia only cooperated because she had to, and for the professional interest.

Which brings me to this question - How did Julia find the time to run Wincliff? She was always at Collinwood or the old house ;D

I too enjoyed the way Barnabas and Julia grew gradually closer as the series progressed.

And as to your question, I have often wondered the same thing.

Perhaps she used the time traveling staircase to go back a day, do her work at Windcliff, then return to the present.  ;D
[lghy] That Julia was crafty ;)

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: Hi From Bugsie!
« on: August 21, 2006, 09:44:27 PM »
Hi Bugsie ;D

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Quote from: onyx_treasure
PS  If you have not seen "Leave her to Heaven" I highly recommend it.  It has Vincent Price in it.
Thanks. That's now on my "must watch" list. I love Vincent Price movies 8)

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: Hello DSF, Professor Stokes Here!
« on: August 21, 2006, 09:05:09 PM »
There are much more subtle nuances in the character development that we could have missed as kids, in fact probably did. I was like you - I felt cheated if Barnabas wasn't on that day. At the time it was like watching Bewitched without Samantha >:(

I particularly like how the relationship between Barnabas and Julia has gradually developed. Remember early on they were mortal enemies - Julia only cooperated because she had to, and for the professional interest.

Which brings me to this question - How did Julia find the time to run Wincliff? She was always at Collinwood or the old house ;D

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Wanna REALLY show the resemblance?
Run a screen grab of Lacy as Trask  next to a screen grab of him from Woody Allen's Play It Again Sam (1972) in which he actually played Bogart!
Great idea. And I would do that if I had a copy of Play It Again, Sam. But I can't stand Woody Allen and don't own any of his movies ::) There's precious little in the way of grabs from the movie on the net.

If someone would be so kind as to get a screen grab off a DVD and PM me, I'll give you my e-mail address to send it to. Then I'll post the side-by-side comparison of Trask and Bogey-Lacy. Or ....maybe it would be better to get a DS grab of Lacy as Tony Peterson? Or do you think the 1795 Trask would be better? The 1897 Trask has too much makeup and hair on his face.


Thanks, CastleBee ;)

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Nope.  As I said in my response to your introductory post, before I saw this one:  I don't like Humphrey Bogart, but I do like Jerry Lacy.  I carefully studied the pictures in your post to figure out why, and could not come up with a solid answer...but I didn't change my mind.
[scratch]"Nope" to the resemblance, or "Nope" to liking them both?

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Quote from: onyx_treasure
I can't think of anyone he would marry.  Angelique reminds me of Glenn Close in that movie with Michael Douglas(can't think of the name).
"Fatal Attraction" :)

I see some similarities :o

But I think much of Angelique's hostility came from being spurned by Barnabas. "Hell hath no fury ..."

In the 1897 time, [spoiler]when they were allies against Petofi (Quentin), they were getting along quite well.[/spoiler]

I really think Angelique would have been quite a catch for Barnabas once she retracted her fangs. She showed signs of desperately wanting to lead a "normal" life with him. I believe she sincerely loved him. It was the intensity of that love that caused the collateral damage ;D

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: Hello DSF, Professor Stokes Here!
« on: August 21, 2006, 04:41:31 PM »
For many, certainly - but not for all of us. As I've posted many times before (so I'll keep this one brief  ;)), there are also fans who love the entire package that is DS - and as shocking as it may be to some, not only can we actually enjoy all the various plots that don't feature Barnabas, we can even imagine a DS that could have continued well past the point that Barnabas would have been written out. Many soaps have featured central characters on a par with the popularity of Barnabas and they've all managed to survive well past those characters' departures. Yes, the shows have often become very different from what they were when those characters were a part of them - but they have endured - and in most cases, even thrived afterward...


And welcome aboard, Professor Stokes!  :)
Thank you, mister admin [salute] (I sent you a PM, by the way).

In all fairness to the show, yes, it probably could have gone on without Barnabas. But we'll never know. It also could have fallen flat without him, never achieving the lofty status that it did ...doomed for cancellation. Who knows? But he stayed on the show, even during the time [spoiler]he was cured and wasn't biting anyone. You could say that was the period of his DS career when it was ...<ahem> ..."a fangless job" ;)[/spoiler]

(That pun wasn't my fault - I was inspired by your calculus sig  [lghy])

Wow. Thanks again for all the warm welcomes! ;D What a great forum! [hello]

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: Hello DSF, Professor Stokes Here!
« on: August 20, 2006, 11:33:33 PM »
Thanks for the info, Nancy. That is a bit disturbing, but it appears it is also reality.

The episode DVDs we're currently receiving all include a bonus interview at the end. Sometimes it's someone like the assistant stage director, or someone like that, which we skip. But it's almost always Dan or a cast member. David Selby has done numerous inverviews, as has Jonathan Frid, Louis Edmonds, and many others. From what I gather from their recollections, they were most serious at the time the show was being aired. Except Karlen ...he was always goofing around ;D

I think it does a disservice to the dedication of the cast to poke fun of the mistakes that are inevitable in such a setting. I applaud Jonathan Frid's graceful and gentlemanly way of accepting it. That he handled it so well doesn't surprise me, being the class act he has always been.

Quote from: Sunny_Collins
Yes, yes, yes,! I couldn't have said it any better myself, Professor Stokes!

The missed lines definitely gave the show a human quality that I really enjoy! It's so much better than most of the stuff on television now.

I'll take Dark Shadows over any show running today!

So here's to Dark Shadows, and all the actors and people  who made it the show we know and love
Hear hear!! Thanks Sunny! :)

Quote from: ProfStokes
Ah, another Stokes fan!  Excellent.   Welcome aboard, Professor Stokes!
Why thank you, professor ;D

In love the Professor Stokes character. He was so smart and so well-prepared for all the last-minute supernatural help that was demanded of him. With the amulet, and the herbs ....brilliant! If I were in a battle with a witch or a warlock, who do you think I would call first? ;D

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Dark Shadows gets mentions all over. Here is a new topic I started on my forum, entitled "Spooky Resemblance". Keep in mind that the typical member there has never heard of Dark Shadows, so I needed to fill them in a bit. I posted this in our "Popcorn" forum where we discuss movies and TV, among other things. Enjoy!
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A little background first.

Back in the Pre-Cambrian period, 1966 - 1971, when dirt was in the prototype stage, and fire was a distant dream, Pam and I (long before we met) used to watch a show called Dark Shadows. It was on after school, about 3pm. I'd watch that, and then the Three Stooges. Every day. I'd occasionally miss Dark Shadows when I went to my friend Steve Boncimino's house for our daily Stooges fix. I never missed the Stooges. But when possible I'd watch DS.

Dark Shadows was a semi-live gothic soap opera. Semi-live, in that they taped the night before, but the taping was continuous ...no retakes, and everything stayed in the aired episode ...even flubbed lines. It gives it a charm all its own ;)

Well, several years ago we signed up to purchase the VHS tapes of the show. We'd get one tape every 2 weeks or so, and it contained 5 episodes. I'd cap onto DVD, and we'd watch the disc the same day I capped it.

Well, the service that was sending the tapes just stopped. So Pam got the DVDs through Netflix. The last few months we have been watching 5 episodes (20 minutes each without commercials) right about the time we eat supper. It's a ritual, and we both have been totally hooked on the show again. It has quite a cult following, with conventions, fan clubs, etc. ;) We have to see our Dark Shadows every day now, or we begin to develop twitches and spasms, and occasionally lose continence. It's very addictive :eek:

One of the characters on the show, Reverend Trask, is played by an actor named Jerry Lacy.. And the man is the spitting image of Humphrey Bogart :eek: It's amazing. Even being costumed and make-upped as another character on DS, it makes the hairs on my neck stand up when he's in a scene, because he just looks that much like Bogey.

Apparently we're not the only ones who think so. He played Bogart in the 1972 Woody Allen movie "Play It Again, Sam".

He did other Bogart stuff too. Back in the aforementioned Pre-Cambrian era, there used to be a Right Guard deodorant commercial I remember clearly. It was one of my favorites because it involved a Bogart impersonator who looked and sounded exactly like Bogey. The tag line was (in perfect Bogey) "Dry up, shweetheart .....ushe Right Guard, in the shilver can!" :laugh:

It wasn't until today when I was getting the stuff together for this post that I found out that ....sure enough ...it was Jerry Lacy who did that Right Guard commercial :D

Anyways ...I think it's a remarkable likeness, and, like with most other things, I thought I'd share it with my Convo Pit family and see what you all thought ;)

First some screen grabs from a Dark Shadows DVD we recently watched:















Now a couple of comparison shots with the real Bogey's pic on the left and Jerry Lacy's pic on the right, in a pose as close as I could get:








Here are some grabs from that Right Guard commercial I mentioned:







And ...finally, a short video taken from the trailer for "Play It Again, Sam". I think whoever spotted this actor and used him as a Bogey lookalike was a genius ...and very lucky:

http://convopit.org/forum/files/pias2_161.mpg

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: Hello DSF, Professor Stokes Here!
« on: August 20, 2006, 10:32:37 PM »
Professor Stokes - welcome to the board!  I don't believe the flub remark will/would bother JF. He believes the reason most fans watch DS is to make fun of it and the acting, etc.  It's the impression he has gotten from reading DS websites and other things. :P  So no worry about offending whenever he reads such stuff here or elsewhere.
Thank you for the warm welcome, Nancy!

I hope JF doesn't think most people watch the show to make fun of it :o >:( I certainly don't, and I believe anyone who loves the show as we do would defend it against such blasphemy. I think the flubbed lines is a reminder to us and everyone else that this show was "taped live" with no do-overs or outtakes. Let some of the modern "stars" try that and see how they'd do :o I think they'd run screaming from the studio. But our beloved DS stars endured grueling schedules, with the pressure of "one chance is all you get", and I'm constantly amazed they did as well as they did. What a cast!!! [headbang]

I think the occasional flubbed line adds to its charm, and adds a human element that you just don't get with the CGI-enhanced, One-hour Martinized, cold and clinical, technically flawless soulless productions we see nowadays. Dark Shadows was more like a live play, and I'd take it in a heartbeat over the new stuff ;)

So Jonathan ...if you read this ....you can miss a line any time, my friend. There will never again be anyone like you [vampy] [9050]

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: Hello DSF, Professor Stokes Here!
« on: August 20, 2006, 10:04:17 PM »
Regarding spoiler warnings, in addition to the tags there's also a message icon, all courtesy of our webmaste, MysteriousB.  :D
Thanks ;) I see the "Spoiler Alert" icon now. I'll be careful not to ruin it for anyone.

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Hmmmmm ...if Barnabas had married ...... let's explore the possible mates:

Julia - She was always warm for his form ...even if she didn't always admit it. But Barnabas saw her as a confidante, like a sister-figure.

Maggie - Nope. No chemistry there.

Eve - They would have killed each other before the honeymoon was over  :o

Josette - He always held onto that flame ...but she was gone. Flinging yourself off the cliff cuts down on the future prospects.

Vicky - He loved Victoria, but she was always busy with other pursuits to pick up on his hints.

Beth - She was too taken with Quentin.

Carolyn- Nope. No chemistry there.

Mrs. Johnson - Tenacious and strong enough to handle Barnabas on a daily basis, but ....damn, girl ...do something about that hair!!!

And the winner is .........
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Angelique!

 :o <Runs for cover from small music boxes hurled at near-sound-velocity by irate DSF members!>

Angelique is the only one for Barnabas. In spite of the dirty deed done by her, back in 1795 she knew he was her soul-mate. He didn't see it until much later when they became uneasy allies against a common enemy.

Angelique is the only one who could handle Barnabas, besides Mrs. Johnson. And she's too busy tending to her shiftless son anyways.

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: Hello DSF, Professor Stokes Here!
« on: August 20, 2006, 09:20:00 PM »
Welcome aboard, Professor, though I could've sworn there was another Prof. Stokes on this board!!  About Magda: the reason why she was gone for so long was because Grayson left for a few weeks to do a movie with Michael Douglas called Adam at 6 AM,  and to make another DS connection, her husband in the film was played by "Sheriff Patterson" himself, Dana Elcar!  BTW, it was produced by Steve McQueen's company which begs the question- did he watch DS?
Ahhh, thanks Charles! And thanks BuzzH! I must have made an assumption about Magda ::)

There is a "ProfStokes" here already. I didn't realize it until after I had already registered. Maybe I should change my handle to avoid confusion?

Quote from: Nancy
LOL!! Just found out that JF looks at this board once a month or so so I imagine the ego will be sailing when he sees these comments!
:o

How cool is that? :D It's well-deserved. And .....I was just kidding about flubbing your lines, ole Barney-baby. Juuuuust kidding .... :o

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