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Title: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: DLA75 on June 05, 2008, 06:15:29 AM: My Movie Cast

Barnabas Collins --- Johnny Depp
Dr Julia Hoffman/ Countess Natalie duPres ---Helen Boton Carter (sugested to me by our Prof Stokes)
Willie Loomis ----Shia LaBeouf
Victoria Winters -Ellen Page
Professor Timothy Eliot Stokes/Ben Stokes--- Philip Seymour Hoffman
Elizabet Collins Stoddard/ Niomi Collins --- Susan Sarandon
Roger Collins / Joshua Collins --- Kelsey Grammer
Carolyn Stoddard/Millicent Collins --- Evan Rachel Wood
Burke Devlin/Jeremiah Collins --- Matt Dillon
Maggie Evans/ Josette DuPres --- Zoe Deschanel
Angelique/Casandra Collllins ----- Isla Fisher
Tony Peterson/Rev Trask ---Joaquin Phoenix
Sarah Collins --- Abagail Brweslin
Nicholas Blair--- Sasha Baron Cohen
Sam Evans/Andre du Pres --- John Goodman
David Collins/Daniel Collins ---?????????
Joe Haskell /Lt. Nathan Forbes --- James Franco
Jason McGuire --- Pierce Brosnan
Eagle Hill Cemitary Caretaker ---- Jonathin Frid
Dr. Dave Woodard --- Michael Keaton
Mrs. Johnson /Abagail Collins --- Jane Kaczmarek

I want everyones's ideas
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on June 05, 2008, 06:56:21 AM: Interesting choices. Though Ellen Page recently signed on to do a remake of Jane Eyre, so chances are she wouldn't necessarily want to repeat herself so soon by going the Gothic governess route again.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Brandon Collins on June 05, 2008, 08:26:09 PM: While I love Ellen Page in "Juno", "An American Crime", and "Hard Candy", I don't think she'd be right for Vicki Winters. In the other topic that was for the movie cast list, someone suggested Anne Hathaway, who I think would do a fair job. As for what I think:

Barnabas--Johnny Depp
Julia--Helena Bonham Carter

Those are the only two I'm really locked in about. Most of the cast, IMO, should be unknowns. Vicki should definitely be an unknown. The Collins family, like Liz, Roger, David, and Carolyn, should be some B-List actors who we don't see very often (or should I say don't notice very often) because they are great character actors. And I think if Quentin is included, Hugh Jackman would be a wonderful choice, but let's hope they leave out or only hint at his lycanthropy so that it can be a possible sequel. We don't want to get the first film too bogged down.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: madscntst on June 05, 2008, 09:38:31 PM: Quote from: DLA75 on June 05, 2008, 06:15:29 AM
Eagle Hill Cemitary Caretaker ---- Jonathin Frid

Ooh, this one is brilliant!!

On a Depp board the other day, someone was asking me whether there would be a part for Christopher Lee (because Tim often casts him). The caretaker was the only role that came to mind- he seems a bit too old and doesn't quite the right type of demeanor for Prof. Stokes. But I think I'd like Frid even more!

They also asked who Helena Bonham Carter would play, and I also said Julia (I don't think she'd be well-suited for anyone else).

Awhile back, someone mentioned Charlize Theron as Angelique, and I have not been able to get that possibility out of my mind-- Charlize is a dead ringer for Lara!
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Gerard on June 06, 2008, 12:53:07 AM: I mentioned on another thread that Helen Mirren would be perfect as Elizabeth Collins Stoddard (or Naomi Collins, depending on how Depp is going to approach this).

Gerard
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Barnabas'sBride on June 06, 2008, 01:14:05 AM: I'm just throwing things out there without really thinking....not all the characters are listed.

Barnabas: Johnny Depp

Present Day
Willie: Jensen Ackles
Carolyn: Evan Rachel Wood (perfect suggestion!)
Victoria: Anne Hathaway or Natalie Portman
Julia Hoffman: Gillian Anderson

I actually think that starting with 1795 is the best idea for the film, but I'm not sure about my picks the cast, yet....
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: jimbo on June 06, 2008, 01:28:01 AM: As DLA75 posted I think Depp would pay homage to Frid and give him a cameo in the movie if Frid was in favor of doing it.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on June 06, 2008, 10:24:35 PM: Some here I love, some I like, and some I just don't really get. I agree with Brandon Collins about Ellen Page just not seeming very Vicki to me. I also just don't see Helen Mirren as Elizabeth. I know I mentioned my pet peeve about British actors playing Americans on another thread, but that's not it here. It's just... I don't know. Joan Bennett, though not fat, was... well, I don't know how to say it, but by the time DS came around, she wasn't delicate by any means. Helen Mirren, and Jean Simmons, for that matter, while excellent actresses, both just seem a little too delicate to be Elizabeth.

I'm just going to throw out random ideas for characters that may or may not be in the movie here. I'm going to skip Barnabas, as Depp is a sure thing there.

For Julia, the previously mentioned Helena Bonham Carter or Gillian Anderson would suit me just fine. Both are talented actresses that would do very well with the part. My ideal choice would be Juliet Landau (aka Drusilla). She's about the right age for it (early forties) and bears a resemblence to Grayson Hall.

Lots of people on other boards have already thrown Josh Holloway out there for Quentin, and though I highly doubt Quentin will even make it into the movie, it's a very good choice.

As far as Jason Maguire goes, I think Pierce Brosnan hits it right on the head. Good choice there.
Kelsey Grammer is so perfect for Roger that Burton is a dope if he doesn't ask for him or find someone who can do better.

For Maggie, I'd like Emmy Rossum or, to take a pretty huge jump from KLS, Keshia Knight-Pulliam.

Already given my opinion on Helen Mirren as Elizabeth, so now I'll add that I concur that Susan Sarandon would be a good choice.

As for Angelique... dunno. Maybe, though she's a bit old for it, to throw another Cosby kid in the mix, Lisa Bonet. Having a black Angelique also makes a lot more sense given the character's background (well, that particular incarnation of the character, that is).
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: IluvBarnabas on June 06, 2008, 10:37:35 PM: Quote from: Gerard on June 06, 2008, 12:53:07 AM
I mentioned on another thread that Helen Mirren would be perfect as Elizabeth Collins Stoddard (or Naomi Collins, depending on how Depp is going to approach this).

I also think Helen Mirren would make a great Elizabeth. I don't have any problem with British actors/actresses playing Americans or vice versa. Susan Sarandon is a great actress....but I just can't see her as Elizabeth. There's a quality about Elizabeth that I don't think Susan would be able to convey...however, I do think Helen has it.

I can't see Ellen Page as Vicki either. My choice would be Kate Beckinsale.

Otherwise, I agree with just about all of DLA75's casting choices.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Garth Blackwood on June 07, 2008, 12:10:53 AM: Quentin (if applicable): Ashton Kutcher

Carolyn: Lindsay Lohan (LOL!)
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: JS on June 07, 2008, 02:16:47 AM: If Quentin will even be in the new movie. His character would have to have perfect posture. That was one of the things that stood out about him in the television series.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on June 07, 2008, 02:22:40 PM: Quote from: IluvBarnabas on June 06, 2008, 10:37:35 PM
I don't have any problem with British actors/actresses playing Americans or vice versa.

Oh, I wouldn't really mind that much if it didn't seem that the way it happened was "American plays British person, accent gets picked apart on forums; British person plays American person, accent gets rabidly praised on forums." Hearing about Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins or Renee Zellweger in Bridget Jones constantly while almost never hearing about Jude Law in Cold Mountain or similar cases gets old really, really fast. And I respectfully disagree with you on Kate Beckinsale, again, not because she's British, but because I think that she's a woman in her thirties and it shows. It would stretch credibility for her to be playing the 18-year-old naive governess fresh out of the orphan shack.

And also, I'm going to backtrack here and change my opinions on a couple of things. As far as Susan Sarandon goes, I've changed my mind. I think she'd be great for the part if she wasn't too old for it, which is another reason I disagree about Helen Mirren. So I'd like to say Gillian Anderson for Elizabeth, not Julia. I hadn't seen it in any photos or films before, or since then for that matter, but I saw a photo of Joan Bennett that looked so much like Gillian Anderson it's scary. So, borrowing previous statements about the cast where I'm happy with it, here's my ideal cast:

Barnabas Collins - Johnny Depp
Dr. Julia Hoffman - Juliet Landau
Willie Loomis - Shia LaBeouf
Victoria Winters - ???? (this one still has me stumped)
Professor Timothy Eliot Stokes - Philip Seymour Hoffman
Elizabet Collins Stoddard - Gillian Anderson
Roger Collins - Kelsey Grammer
Carolyn Stoddard - ???? (Evan Rachel Wood looks the part, but I don't know how well she can act, as I've never seen her in anything)
Burke Devlin - Josh Brolin
Maggie Evans - Emmy Rossum
Angelique - ???? (See Carolyn)
Tony Peterson - Joaquin Phoenix
Sarah Collins - ???? (I don't know any child actors nowadays, and though Abigail Breslin is a good actress, she's the new Dakota Fanning in that she's getting EVERY role for a litle girl)
Nicholas Blair - ????
Sam Evans - ????
David Collins - ???? (see Sarah)
Joe Haskell /Lt. Nathan Forbes --- James Franco
Jason McGuire - Pierce Brosnan
Eagle Hill Cemetery Caretaker - Jonathan Frid
Dr. Dave Woodard - Michael Keaton
Mrs. Johnson /Abagail Collins - ????

I left out my previous suggestion of Keshia Knight-Pulliam for Maggie here because that'd definitely require changing it to Vicki looking like Josette, as a young woman of aristocratic French descent being black would be beyond unbelievable, historically.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: madscntst on June 07, 2008, 03:33:26 PM: Even though they deny that it's a given, I would expect Helena Bonham Carter to get a role, if Tim Burton is directing. I don't know Juliet Landau, so I don't know how she would compare with Helena as Julia, but I can't think of another role that would suit Helena. Of course, I could be wrong, and Tim might actually do a movie without her [ghost_wink]

I don't know many child actors, either. Doesn't Dakota Fanning have a younger sister? The kid in Sweeney Todd, Ed Sanders, was quite good, but he seems to have grown about a foot and lowered his voice an octave or so since filming, so he might already be too old for David Collins.

I've heard Hayden Panettiere (Heroes) mentioned for Carolyn- I could possibly see it, but wonder if they could get someone a little more flashy.

About Vicki's age, wasn't Joanna Going's version supposed to be 25? I think that's a plausible age- someone who has been college educated and may even have a master's, but is still pretty young and fresh in the world. Making her in her mid 20's would seem to open the door for more possibilities actress-wise, though I can't really think of anyone at the moment.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: madscntst on June 07, 2008, 03:36:43 PM: On second thought, I just saw the subject header for "Crazy Jenny". Well, it'd probably be a stretch to think that Crazy Jenny would be included in the cast, but if she were, that's Helena Bonham Carter, right there! [ghost_smiley]
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on June 07, 2008, 05:49:45 PM: Quote from: GooberCollins on June 07, 2008, 02:22:40 PM
I respectfully disagree with you on Kate Beckinsale, again, not because she's British, but because I think that she's a woman in her thirties and it shows. It would stretch credibility for her to be playing the 18-year-old naive governess fresh out of the orphan shack.

The daytime Vicki was 20 when DS started. And the '91 series' and the '04 pilot's Vickis were aged to their mid-20s. But as much as I like Kate Beckinsale, I agree that she probably couldn't pull off those age ranges.

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(Evan Rachel Wood looks the part, but I don't know how well she can act, as I've never seen her in anything)

She acts rings around most of her contemporaries. She has talent in spades - though she tends to go the independent route. Off the top of my head I can't think of one major studio film that she's appeared in...

And welcome back, IluvBarnabas. [ghost_smiley]
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Breebell on June 07, 2008, 10:23:46 PM: Let's see...

I think Cate Blanchette would make a good Julia Hoffman, she's kind of chameleon like and a wonderful actress, I think she'd really
do Grayson justice.

And the Charlize Theron suggestion for Angelique is spot on.

And this is crazy, but I want to see Kathryn Leigh Scott in the Elizabeth Stoddard role. She's the only major female cast member who still looks young enough pull it off, (at least from the pictures I've seen) and I really want to see an original cast member in the film. She could do it.

But this is what I want most of all:

I want there to be an aging scene in the movie, Johnny Depp as Barnabas ages, for what ever reason, and he turns into Johnathan Frid!!!
there he'll be...The Real Barnabas!!!!...even if it's only for a second. I would scream for joy and throw popcorn.

Okay, I know...not gonna happen, but I can dream can't I? [ghost_smiley]
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Brandon Collins on June 07, 2008, 11:13:47 PM: What a great idea about the aging scene, Breebell! I love it, and I too would throw my popcorn!

I like Emmy Rossum as Maggie, but she'd definitely have to toughen up I think. I don't know that I've seen a performance from her thus far that would make her obviously Maggie in my mind, but I think she'd be able to pull it off, given some coaching. Maggie needs to have spunk.

And I know that she is probably too old for the part, given that Angelique is usually cast as someone in her mid-twenties (or at least around Josette's age), but I like Gillian Anderson as Angelique instead of Julia or Elizabeth. I think she'd pull off Ang's evil laugh and smile beautifully.

Elizabeth is another one where I can't think of anyone that would stand out to me obviously. The impression I got from Joan Bennett's portrayal of Liz (I should say early Liz) was that she was a tough woman, someone who could run the household, sign the checks, replant the garden, all while taking in a novel. She seemed worldy, knowledgable, and hearty. While I think that KLS could definitely play this, for some reason that I can't quite put my finger on, I just can't see her in the role.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on June 08, 2008, 04:31:33 AM: They could make Maggie's alcoholic artist father into her alcoholic artist grandmother and use KLS there. :P

I would be quite pleased if Jonathan Frid played Old Barnabas, but Frid actually looks rather youthful for a man in his eighties, and since he is still a man in his eighties, he might not be able to wear the proper prosthetics. Then again, perhaps by 2010 CGI will have replaced make-up entirely and they'll just be able to manipulate the film, no make-up needed. I agree it would be great.

Charlize Theron as Angelique... I like it. I really do. I'm also pretty sure some people will throw Angelina Jolie out there, which I'd be less than pleased with. Gillian Anderson could also work as Angelique if she was a bit younger.

As far as the whole Crazy Jenny bit, as funny as HBC could be as her, I highly doubt they'll even get to the Quentin Haunting storyline, let alone delve that far into 1897.

Finally, forgive my screw-ups with Vicki's various ages. I couldn't recall that being mentioned anywhere, but had guessed at 18 or so.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Gerard on June 11, 2008, 02:42:44 AM: I think a perfect cast for Dr. Julia Hoffman would be...........Kathy Bates. Wait, wait, wait - hear me out. I can kind-of see her character formed somewhat in the way Grayson Hall did it (I don't know if she did, but it's just the way I see it as formed). Dr. Hoffman is not exactly a knock-out; she has her own unique - and even regal in her own way - look. Not being exactly Cindy Crawford, she spent her personal life trying to find some love, but was never quite successful. So, she throws herself into her career, becoming an incredible physician, experienced in various facets of the profession, from hemotology to psychiatry. In her private life, she closes in on herself, but still there is always that desire to find someone - anyone - who will give her the most miniscule romantic time of the day. She keeps that to herself, unknown even to her friends. And then along comes this mysterious "case" in which she is asked to get involved, leading her to Barnabas (Depp). The rest of the story plays out, including her plan to "cure" him. They are both strong personalities, clashing with each other, and then coming to a truce, and then to somewhat of a trust. Barnabas begins to show his appreciation, and Dr. Hoffman begins to - wrongly - read the much "younger" Barnabas as having an romantic interest in her. And away we go. I can just so see Ms. Bates doing this. I can also see her playing Countess Natalie DuPres, an aristocratic woman with an equally strong personality. Ms. Bates is an incredible actress, a box-office draw, an Oscar winner.

And, to be pefectly honest, I don't want to see people hired because they're just a bunch of young "hot stuff." I never saw the aborted 2004 WB pilot; however, while it was being developed, I was very uncomfortable with some of the people they casted to play the characters. To me, many were just a bunch of Beverly-Hills-90210 (or whatever that zipcode is) clones, making it look like Melrose-Place-Meets-Buffy. I don't know if that's how the pilot turned out (because I didn't see it), but I just think that Depp and Burton should look at what's more "realistic" to make it a character-driven film, rather than just a bunch of hit-the-gym-six-days-a-week-and-eat-rabbit-food-late-twenty-somethings-looking things that just don't reflect how normal folks living in Maine would appear.

Gerard
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on June 11, 2008, 03:20:36 AM: Quote from: Gerard on June 11, 2008, 02:42:44 AM
And, to be pefectly honest, I don't want to see people hired because they're just a bunch of young "hot stuff." I never saw the aborted 2004 WB pilot; however, while it was being developed, I was very uncomfortable with some of the people they casted to play the characters. To me, many were just a bunch of Beverly-Hills-90210 (or whatever that zipcode is) clones, making it look like Melrose-Place-Meets-Buffy. I don't know if that's how the pilot turned out (because I didn't see it)

Um - it didn't. ;)

I like the suggestion of Kathy Bates. Chances are it won't work out that way, though - mostly for the simple fact that it's probably not likely that TPTB will think the target audience (being chiefly comprised of 12-25 year olds, like every other major studio film ::)) wouldn't care about a relationship between Depp and Bates, no matter how well it could be written. And that's sad. But that's the movie business today. :( But I really liked the way you developed the scenario. [thumb]

Honestly, I haven't given much serious thought to who might play what roles because at this point we still have no idea what shape the script will take. I really liked the idea of setting the film in 1795 (or whatever past era they decide to place Barnabas' origins in), but the story has always been kicked off with Barnabas being released from his coffin in the present, so they may not want to tinker with that. But either way, there is a strong likelihood that if indeed Tim Burton is directing, Helena Bonham Carter will appear in some major role because she seems to appear in all of his films (one of the perks of being married to the director - though she certainly seems to do an excellent job with every role he gives her ;)). As others have suggested, Julia and/or Natalie would seem to be the most well suited roles for her - but who knows? [idontknow]
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on June 11, 2008, 03:40:39 AM: Kathy Bates is an interesting choice. Come to think of it, Julia's poisoning of Barnabas in HoDS and the revival is fairly similar to Annie breaking Paul's legs with the sledgehammer...
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Charles_Ellis on June 11, 2008, 03:50:03 AM: Well, I have my own casting ideas. For the role of Liz Stoddard, it must go to an actress of world renown whose very name will guarantee the project receiving publicity. My choice is (drumroll please)- JANE FONDA!!!

She is a mature actress of world renown, a two-time Oscar winner and she has a DS connection: she was a classmate of Lara Parker's at Vassar!

For Professor Stokes- a casting choice that will also make headlines- JAMES EARL JONES!!!!

It's about time the world of DS got integrated in a big way, and who better than ol' Darth Vader himself? Think of it- for the 1790s, instead of Ben Stokes being a white indentured servant, why not go all the way and have him be a black runaway slave who is helped by Barnabas and Jeremiah in his pursuit of freedom? It would be a sharp difference from the sophisticated descendant with a taste for both knowledge and the finer things in life.

There's one thing that we don't know: will Josette be a dead ringer for Maggie like in the original series, or Vicki in the primetime version?

For Carolyn it's Lindsay Lohan in a slam dunk- I mean, she IS Carolyn in real life!

As Vicki: I'd like either Anne Hathaway or Natalie Portman.

For Maggie: Kirsten Dunst or Cameron Diaz, with Ryan Gosling as Joe Haskell/Nathan Forbes.

It would be soooo delicious to see Kelsey Grammer as Roger Collins- he's the only actor who could deliver those smarmy lines in the style of Louis Edmonds! Just imagine seeing Jane Fonda putting him in his place!

How about Shirley MacLaine as Mrs. Johnson/Abigail?

Since Tim Burton is directing, it's clear that Helena Bonham-Carter will probably play Julia, but I'm OK with it. If she won't do it, get JODIE FOSTER!!

And how about Mark Wahlberg as Willie- imagine the way he'll say "Come on Maggie, you know you like it!" Dirk Diggler in Collinsport!
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on June 11, 2008, 04:01:49 AM: Anne Hathaway as Vicki. That is great.

And allow me to also put out Brooke Shields, Debra Winger, and Kate Mulgrew for Elizabeth.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on June 11, 2008, 05:13:10 AM: Kate Mulgrew, I've loved her work practically since I first laid eyes on her on Ryan's Hope. Debra Winger, maybe - though she doesn't seem to work much anymore. But Brooke Shields!! [yikes]
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on June 11, 2008, 06:10:32 AM: LOL. But seriously, I don't think Brooke Shields would be bad in the role. Mulgrew, Shields, and Winger are all in around the right age range for Elizabeth (42-52), and I think they'd all be pretty good. Age is the primary reason I cut Susan Sarandon as my choice for Elizabeth. Joan Bennett may have looked older than 50, but that was probably the harsh make-up and lighting they had on her. I'd also suggest Linda Hamilton, but the last time I saw her, it looked like she hadn't aged very well.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Miss_Winthrop on June 11, 2008, 03:53:04 PM: This is fun!
Liz - Francesca Annis (she could work around the British accent since she is so talented)
Vicki - agree with Anne Hathaway - perfect, wide eyed innocent!
Someone suggested Cherize Theron for Angelique. I like the idea.
Dr Julia is a hard choice to make. DS fans would demand perfection.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Willie Loomis on June 11, 2008, 05:24:07 PM: Quote from: Breebell on June 07, 2008, 10:23:46 PM
And this is crazy, but I want to see Kathryn Leigh Scott in the Elizabeth Stoddard role. She's the only major female cast member who still looks young enough pull it off, (at least from the pictures I've seen) and I really want to see an original cast member in the film. She could do it.

count me in for KLS in ECS role. that would be great.

just as great as Joaquin Phoneix as Barnabas and Judy Davis as Julia Hoffman. Depp should do quentin. How about Craig Ferguson as Jason McGuire???? julia stiles as Carolyn. The little pudgy dude from Three and a half Men can play david. Rachel Griffiths -- mrs Johnson. Jack Nicholson as Roger Collins. (he can be pompous at times)
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: LeFanu on June 11, 2008, 08:21:48 PM: How's about Rachel Griffiths as Julia? Although Helena Bonham Carter would be a great choice.

Personally, I kind of see Emmy Rossum as Vicki - she's young, innocent, beautiful, and if they decided to go the Vicki/Josette route, she'd be the perfect Josette.

What about Anthony Stewart Head (from Buffy) as Roger Collins?
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: JS on June 12, 2008, 03:51:47 AM: I'm enjoying all this speculating on casting. I would just like to have just a hint of that a Quentin character will be in the new movie. That would totally reassure us that this isn't going to be just a remake of House of Dark Shadows. [ghost_tongue2]
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Charles_Ellis on June 12, 2008, 10:41:56 PM: There's only one actor to play Quentin: HUGH JACKMAN!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: DarkShadowyFigure on June 18, 2008, 12:46:27 AM: Haven't posted in ages but this looks like so much fun-

Barnabas Collins --- Johnny Depp
Dr Julia Hoffman/ Countess Natalie duPres ---Bridget Fonda
Willie Loomis ----Jake Gyllenhaal
Victoria Winters -Jennifer Connelly
Professor Timothy Eliot Stokes/Ben Stokes--- William Hurt
Elizabet Collins Stoddard/ Niomi Collins --- Anjelica Huston
Roger Collins / Joshua Collins --- John Malkovich
Carolyn Stoddard/Millicent Collins --- Drew Barrymore
Burke Devlin/Jeremiah Collins --- Sean Penn
Maggie Evans/ Josette DuPres --- Maggie Gyllenhaal
Angelique/Casandra Collllins ----- Rebecca Romijn
Tony Peterson/Rev Trask ---Daniel Day-Lewis
Sarah Collins --- Rachel Covey
Nicholas Blair--- Robert Downey Jr.
Sam Evans/Andre du Pres --- Oliver Platt
David Collins/Daniel Collins -Ty Simpkins
Joe Haskell /Lt. Nathan Forbes --- Will Ferrell
Jason McGuire --- Pierce Brosnan
Eagle Hill Cemitary Caretaker ---- Jonathin Frid
Dr. Dave Woodard --- Danny Huston
Mrs. Johnson /Abagail Collins --- Sissy Spacek
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Miss_Winthrop on June 19, 2008, 01:01:37 AM: Here's a wild idea for Roger Collins. Kelsey Grahmer (sp?). I think that I like Gerard's idea of Kathy Bates as Dr Julia. Nothing says that an older woman can't fall in love with a younger man. That part of the story doesn't need to be the main focal part of the movie since it's agreed that 12 to 25 year olds couldn't grasp that such a thing might happen. [ghost_wub]
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on June 19, 2008, 01:58:56 AM: I'm a bit offended by that statement, as I fall in that age range and can grasp that fact completely. [ghost_tongue2]
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Doug on June 19, 2008, 09:45:04 AM: Quote from: Charles_Ellis on June 12, 2008, 10:41:56 PM
There's only one actor to play Quentin: HUGH JACKMAN!!!!!!!

I totally agree. But as far as Elizabeth Collins Stoddard, not susan sarandon. [ghost_wacko]
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Willie Loomis on June 19, 2008, 05:04:32 PM: Quote from: Miss_Winthrop on June 19, 2008, 01:01:37 AM
Here's a wild idea for Roger Collins. Kelsey Grahmer (sp?).

how's about Tim Curry for Roger? he can be foppish enough, and i bet at this stage in his life, he's really bald! he can get Roger's Bitchery going, i bet.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Doug on June 20, 2008, 04:53:26 AM: The one thing I am hoping will happen, is that Jonathan Frid makes a cameo appearance in the movie.

I was reading his fan mail on his website and one fan asked him would he appear in the upcoming
movie. He said that he doesn't know.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on June 20, 2008, 05:02:06 AM: Well, at least that's a step forward. Back when the '91 series was being done Frid was adamant that he'd given all that he ever would to DS. But that was also fairly close to the debacle with the footage that was used on MPI's 25th Anniversary tape, so there may have still been a bad taste in his mouth over that. Although, he also had no interest in appearing in the '04 pilot. But that was before he returned to the Fests last year. So...
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: EmeraldRose on June 20, 2008, 08:50:42 AM: I think John Rhys-Davies would be the perfect choice to play Professor Stokes/Ben Stokes.

I agree with others who have suggested Charlize Theron as Angelique.

I think Kelsey Grammar would be perfect as the pompous Roger/Joshua Collins.

I like the idea of Kate Mulgrew playing Elizabeth Collins Stoddard/Naomi Collins.

I agree with others here that Helena Bonham Carter would be an excellent choice to play Dr. Julia Hoffman.

I love the idea of Jonathan Frid appearing in a cameo as the Eagle Hill Cemetery caretaker!

I'm not sure about the other parts. The ones I mentioned are the ones I feel most strongly about.

----- Sally -----
[coolg] [hippy2]
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Miss_Winthrop on June 23, 2008, 01:00:51 PM: No offense ment GooberCollins. Of course young people could grasp the idea of an older woman and younger man hence the Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher relationship. [ghost_smiley]
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on June 24, 2008, 12:34:15 AM: It's fine. I just find it a little offensive that many people seem to feel that the 12-25 year old audience only cares about special effects and can't grasp basic concepts like that properly. Don't worry about it, though.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Maggie Babe on June 24, 2008, 02:37:34 AM: Quote from: Mysterious Benefactor on June 20, 2008, 05:02:06 AM
But that was also fairly close to the debacle with the footage that was used on MPI's 25th Anniversary tape, so there may have still been a bad taste in his mouth over that.

So what happened on that tape that "left a bad taste in his mouth?"
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Midnite on June 24, 2008, 03:19:53 AM: Quote from: Maggie Babe
So what happened on that tape that "left a bad taste in his mouth?"

You might want to read through the entire topic:

Quote from: joe integlia on May 20, 2003, 02:12:20 AM
ds convention/event tapes
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on June 26, 2008, 06:19:22 PM: Back on topic, what about Sarah Michelle Gellar for Angelique? She's physically right for the part, in both age and appearance, and she's shown that she can play bitchy with her time on All My Children.
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Post by: Miss_Winthrop on June 28, 2008, 01:48:08 PM: I recently saw Gillian Anderson in Bleak House as Lady Dedlock. She was excellent in that role.
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Post by: GooberCollins on June 29, 2008, 03:13:46 AM: Yes, she's already played the dignified lady of the house very well, so she's a good choice for Elizabeth.
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Post by: Taeylor Collins on June 29, 2008, 03:40:11 AM: Quote from: Charles_Ellis on June 12, 2008, 10:41:56 PM
There's only one actor to play Quentin: HUGH JACKMAN!!!!!!!

PERFECTION!!!! :) He would rock. I ain't feeling Helen Carter for Julia. I just ain't feelin it. I am gonna have to think on everyone else!!

I also love the idea of Anthony Stewart Head playing Roger. He could pull of the arrogance!! :) Angelique Victoria and Julia are gonna have to be DEAD ON!! And Quentin. I only think he would be in a movie though if we get a trilogy out of it.
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Post by: jimbo on July 09, 2008, 11:26:35 PM: For what its worth: The webmaster ( I believe) of her website wrote a letter to Anne Hathaway and indicated in part that she hopes Anne is in the Dark Shadows movie-second paragraph.

http://nogoodforme.filmstills.org/blog/archives/2008/07/09/were_obsessed_13.html
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on July 09, 2008, 11:55:40 PM: I feel Anne Hathaway is absolutely perfect for Vicki.

I also like the idea someone posted before of Ashton Kutcher as Quentin. If Demi Moore played Elizabeth, that could be an interesting dynamic. [ghost_cheesy]

I don't know the actor's name but the actor who plays Langley on The X-Files and The Lone Gunmen looks a lot like Louis Edmonds. Considering we know X-Files creator Chris Carter was a Night Stalker fan, it's not that farfetched to guess that he might have watched DS as well. Or maybe it's just a weird coincidence that a man who looks remarkably like Louis Edmonds played a character named Langley, who knows?
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Post by: jimbo on July 10, 2008, 12:17:08 AM: I agree with you GooberCollins about the 26 year old Hathaway being perfect for the Vicky role. The Wikipedia website on her name indicated "Other possible films include the lead role of Victoria Winters in the Tim Burton reimagining of the 1960s cult Soap Opera Dark Shadows, starring Johnny Depp, which is going into production in late 2008 for a 2010 release". I think she can pull it off. I really haven't given much thought to the other possible actors for the remaining DS roles.

I am also pretty sure Carter is a fan of DS.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on July 10, 2008, 12:28:50 AM: As much as I would love to believe that, I'm very skeptical of Wikipedia in instances like this.
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Post by: jimbo on July 10, 2008, 12:35:02 AM: True. I have learned that its not official news until it is confirmed by TPTB although we can always hope.
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Post by: EmeraldRose on July 10, 2008, 08:40:57 AM: Quote from: EmeraldRose on June 20, 2008, 08:50:42 AM
I'm not sure about the other parts. The ones I mentioned are the ones I feel most strongly about.
Oops! I forgot about Barnabas! Of course, Johnny Depp should play Barnabas! I guess I considered that role a no-brainer, so I forgot to mention it. [ghost_wink]

----- Sally -----
[coolg] [hippy2]
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on July 16, 2008, 04:34:48 AM: Some casting ideas, some new and some old:

Julia: Juliet Landau
Vicki: Anne Hathaway
Angelique: Sarah Michelle Gellar or Halle Berry
Roger: James Marsters
Elizabeth: Gillian Anderson
Maggie: Emmy Rossum
Quentin: Josh Holloway
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Taeylor Collins on July 16, 2008, 05:40:14 AM: I like Juliet L as Julia. I am not feeling Anne Hathaway for Victoria. I can't see SMG pulling off Angelique. She is a great actress but I just don't see it. Halle Berry--HOT!! It would also fit more with the servant theme. Roger: James Marsters is too young (to me) for Roger and yes I know he is in his late forties. I just don't see it. I would really love to see an original cast member in the role of the matriarch ECS. I LIKE the idea of Josh Holloway as Quentin!
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on July 16, 2008, 02:45:57 PM: If you don't think SMG can pull off the evil bitch role, you should watch Cruel Intentions. She can play heartless monster as well as she can a character like Buffy.

James Marsters has changed since the last season of Angel, believe me. He now looks his age quite thoroughly.

I'm not too keen on the idea of an original cast member playing Elizabeth, as Elizabeth was supposed to be around 50 when the series started, and all of the main female cast members are a bit too old to pull that off.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on July 16, 2008, 02:59:13 PM: I apologize for the double post, but I didn't have time to modify. Other examples of evil or bitchy Sarah Michelle Gellar include Kendall Hart on All My Children and The First in Buffy Season 7.
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Post by: Barnabas'sBride on July 16, 2008, 07:50:08 PM: I definitely think SMG could pull off Angelique....the question is more along the lines - for myself, anyway - if I can stop picturing Buffy long enough.
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Post by: GooberCollins on July 16, 2008, 08:13:08 PM: I had that concern when I first watched Cruel Intentions. It was gone by three minutes in. It was like a completely different person; I didn't associate her with Buffy at all.
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Post by: Taeylor Collins on July 16, 2008, 10:14:05 PM: Oh I know Sarah has RANGE. BUFFYBOT/BUFFY LOL I have seen CRUEL INTENTIONS and she was amazing. I just cannot see her as Angelique that is all. Just my humble opinion. As much flak as Lysette Anthony may get. I loved her oversexd, crazy, cruel, and devious bitchy Angelique. And Lara Parker's too. The girl also needs those Angelique eyes too.

And I HAVE seen James Marsters. I saw him at the BUFFY reunion a couple months ago. I know he is old enough to play Roger, but I don't know if I can see him playing him. Or if it would work. Who knows??

Evil First Buffy didn't inspire fear in me at all. Like Lara Parker or Lysette did. I KNEW they were evil. Again guys just my opinions. I could be totally wrong.

And why do we have to have big actors in the roles anyway? What do you all think about newcomers? Joanna Going--she was just a soap star and she was amazing!!
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on July 17, 2008, 01:36:25 AM: The problem with newcomers is that they're newcomers. Many probably don't know who they are, and therefore if I said, "Herbert Gumblebuttons should be Roger," no matter how right he was for the part, most people would be scratching their heads. That's why we're choosing A-list actors.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Taeylor Collins on July 17, 2008, 02:09:11 AM: I meant more for the (producers, directors to looks at) than us to talk about. LOL I guess I should have made that clear.
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Post by: Taeylor Collins on July 20, 2008, 04:22:16 AM: Goober...the more I think about James Marsters posssibly could do it. It had slipped my mind that James was theater actor before Buffy. As I am sure you know it's the show that brought him fame. Having said that I think he may could do it James is a great actor. I watched a bit of Buffy when it first came on, however, life got in the way, after school activities, Blah blah. Anyways I ALWAYS thought he was British. I never knew until I saw him in interviews on the Buffy DVDS. He almost sounds weird to me in his English accent.
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Post by: starruby13 on July 20, 2008, 07:27:34 AM: I've been at the convention all weekend. I posed this question to Lara Parker and Kathryn Leigh Scott. Lara thought she would like to see Charlize Theron in the role as Angelique. Kathryn Leigh Scott thought Kiera Knightly would be great for the part of Maggie Evans/Josette Dupree. Someone in the audience actually suggested Angelina Jolie play Maggie. Kathryn thought the suggestion rather humerous and made some cheeky comment that if Angelina were to portray Maggie, her top would have to fall off at some point in the movie. As much as we would love to see Jonathan Frid on the big screen, he made it clear that he was not interested in appearing in the new movie. I think the ladies are right on with their casting choices.

With not much forethought, here's some of my ideas for casting thus far:
Barnabas: Johnny Depp (of course)
Alan Rickman: Roger Collins
Kate Mulgrew: Elizabeth Collins Stoddard
(2nd) Helene Bonham Carter: Crazy Jenny
(2nd) Susan Sarandon: Dr. Julia Hoffman
Edward Norton: Willy Loomis
Jayne Wisener: Carolyn Stoddard
Sacha Baron Cohen: Adam
Anne Hathaway: Victoria Winters
Val Kilmer: Professor Timothy Stokes
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Taeylor Collins on July 20, 2008, 08:15:14 AM: Which leads me to wonder if Maggie will be needed at all in the new movie. Maybe some cameo's. Especially if once again Victoria is the reincarnaton of Josette. I truly hope they go with that story. To me it made the story simply better. IMHO
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Post by: GooberCollins on July 20, 2008, 01:29:33 PM: Taeylor: I've heard dozens of stories of (British) people who were absolutely convinced that Marsters was British and didn't buy that he was an American until a few interviews were shown.

No, Maggie's really not needed in the movie. If they want to tell the story in two hours or so, they can quite easily leave out Maggie and do an HoDS-esque retelling of the initial Barnabas storyline. Aside from that, Kathryn Leigh Scott looked really good in that role, but I don't find Keira Knightley the slightest bit attractive, probably because of the bad nose job. Just my opinion. If they are going to do Maggie in the movie, Emmy Rossum is still my ideal.

Charllize Theron is my number 3 choice for Angelique, after Sarah Michelle Gellar (1) and Halle Berry (2).

I also think that Alan Rickman and Susan Sarandon are too old for those roles. I see Julia and Roger as being in their mid-40s, and Rickman and Sarandon are both in their mid-60s.

Good suggestion of Edward Norton for Willie. I can see that.

I'm stil looking for who I think would be a good Carolyn, though. None of the suggestions posted here have really clicked with me as, "Oh, yes, she's the one" for her, no offense intended.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on July 22, 2008, 08:44:57 PM: Sorry for the double-post, but I was told by someone that Kathryn Leigh Scott just said that she thought Keira Knightley was a lovely actress and would do a good job with the part; it wasn't an outright endorsement; she was asked about Knightley specifically in that instance, so it's possible she was merely being polite. She also went on to imply that she'd prefer an unknown in the role.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Taeylor Collins on July 23, 2008, 05:06:15 AM: I guess Judi Dench is too old to play Elizabeth Collins Stoddard however I think she would have been great as Liz. :)
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: ProfStokes on July 23, 2008, 08:59:11 AM: Quote from: GooberCollins on July 20, 2008, 01:29:33 PM
No, Maggie's really not needed in the movie. If they want to tell the story in two hours or so, they can quite easily leave out Maggie and do an HoDS-esque retelling of the initial Barnabas storyline. Aside from that, Kathryn Leigh Scott looked really good in that role, but I don't find Keira Knightley the slightest bit attractive, probably because of the bad nose job. Just my opinion. If they are going to do Maggie in the movie, Emmy Rossum is still my ideal.

Kathryn Leigh Scott spent a large chunk of her Q&A on Sunday outlining the backstory and development arc that she would like to see for Maggie in the film. Her ideal Maggie is tough, akin to pre-Barnabas Maggie, and as the primary caregiver to her itinerant, alcoholic, artist father, who is now going blind, she feels stifled and trapped in Collinsport. In this version, Maggie and Joe are already a couple, but he really has eyes for the rich girl who lives in the house on the hill. While Maggie dreams of a life and a career beyond the small fishiing village, she conscientiously attends to the diner and bakes her own pies. When Barnabas visits the diner late one night, when Maggie is dog-tired after an especially long day, she is charmed by his (other)worldliness and they immediately connect. This time when asked who was her pick of an actress to be Maggie, KLS cited "Someone edgy, someone like Evan Rachel Wood."

ProfStokes
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Taeylor Collins on July 23, 2008, 10:12:44 AM: I really see no need for Maggie unless she is ala the 1991 version who I LOVED!! IMHO of course. If they do the Victoria is Josette's reincarnation thing which I think is one of the best things that was updated for the 1991 version. It makes the history and backstory of Victoria more interesting to me. Again JMHO!!
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on July 23, 2008, 06:26:14 PM: I agree with you, Taeylor. A movie is different than a series or mini-series, and some characters are most probably going to have to fall by the wayside simply because of the absence of adequate time and/or need to tie their stories into Barnabas' main narrative. The less directly connected some characters are to the Collins family, the less likely they are to appear - at least initially. Though who's to say what purpose they might serve in any potential sequels...
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Post by: michael c on July 24, 2008, 12:09:17 AM: given the two hour time frame of a cinematic feature the number of supporting characters will indeed need to be limited.

which of course begs the question as to who will figure as the story's central ingenue...victoria or maggie.

this oscillated depending on what version of things was being played.both characters were depicted as having been josette's reincarnation in different versions.
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Post by: Taeylor Collins on July 24, 2008, 12:14:06 AM: PLEASE LET IT BE VICTORIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry. I got carried away. I love KLS but Maggie never did anything for me. I like early Maggie. I have been watching DS BEGINNINGS Volume 1 and she told someone she wouldn't work there for a 100 dollars a day or something like that. I just laughed and laughed. I was like "HONEY" as early Maggie would say[spoiler] Your gonna eat your words one day when you become governess!![/spoiler]
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: michael c on July 24, 2008, 12:20:11 AM: needless to say i vote for vicki as well...

i love kls' early maggie as well but can never really get into her as collinwood governess later on.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on July 24, 2008, 12:28:37 AM: The modern take seems to be Vicki as that was used in both the '91 series and the '04 pilot. Personally, I think it works much better than Maggie. In fact, I think Maggie is pretty much superfluous so far as the Depp/DS film might be. Well, unless they use her as one of Barnabas' early victims - perhaps even returning as a vampire as Carolyn did in hoDS, Daphne did in the '91 series, and Kelly Greer would have had the '04 pilot gone to series.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on July 24, 2008, 12:30:34 AM: A combined character, as in HoDS, would be ideal, in my opinion. They should also have her already working at Collinwood when the movie opens. The fact that DC rushed to bring Barnabas into the 1991 show right away is one of my least favorite things about the Revival, and I'd prefer to have Maggicki already working at Collinwood to "Oh, here's the new governess, and the new vampire at the same time!"
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Gerard on July 24, 2008, 03:06:25 AM: I want it to be Maggie, for obvious reasons (because I've always been madly in love with her as portrayed by TLATKLS). I'm infatuated with Maggie. I adore Maggie. I still want her to be my governess. For those who like Vicki, I'd let her have a part in the film. She can be an upstairs maid, working under the watchful eye of Mrs. Johnson the head housekeeper. When Mrs. Johnson tells her to starch the bedsheets, Vicki can look at the spray can and say "I don't understand." On to the next scene.

Gerard
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: ProfStokes on July 24, 2008, 03:52:51 AM: Quote from: GooberCollins on July 24, 2008, 12:30:34 AM
I'd prefer to have Maggicki already working at Collinwood to "Oh, here's the new governess, and the new vampire at the same time!"

I posted my own imaginary plot outline on another board a couple of months ago where I outlined the reverse scenario. Barnabas is already ensconced at the Collinwood estate (we later see his release in flashbacks through Willie's traumatic recurring nightmares) and living comfortably as a respected member of the family when the movie beings; then Vicki arrives.

Opening scene: Maggie, in her tattered rags, is frantically trying to count the bricks and escape through the dark tunnels. She looks terrified and constantly glances backward. The audience only sees a dark silhouette of a tall man pursuing her. (This dramatic opening scene will immediately draw the audience's attention and get them curious about who the girl is and who her captor is). Finally Maggie makes her way to the beach and is rescued.

Cut to Victoria Winters arriving at Collinwood for her assignment as David's caretaker/keeper/whatever. She meets the Collins family, including Barnabas, the mysterious English cousin. He is very charming and takes an interest in Vicki. When he returns home, he ponders an old portrait of a woman named "Josette" who looks strikingly like Vicki.

Meanwhile, a crazed Maggie is at Windcliff babbling about the undead and the Collins family. Her psychiatrist, Dr. Julia Hoffman, eventually decides to go to Collinsport to investigate. In the process, she (and the audience) discovers Barnabas's secret--that he is a vampire, he is Maggie's kidnapper, and he is now fixated on Vicki.

ProfStokes
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Taeylor Collins on July 24, 2008, 04:08:09 AM: Quote from: Gerard on July 24, 2008, 03:06:25 AM
I want it to be Maggie, for obvious reasons (because I've always been madly in love with her as portrayed by TLATKLS). I'm infatuated with Maggie. I adore Maggie. I still want her to be my governess. For those who like Vicki, I'd let her have a part in the film. She can be an upstairs maid, working under the watchful eye of Mrs. Johnson the head housekeeper. When Mrs. Johnson tells her to starch the bedsheets, Vicki can look at the spray can and say "I don't understand." On to the next scene.

I am sure the VICTORIA on the movie will be more along the lines of Joanna Going's Victoria. She was NOT was dumb like the original Victoria. Loved Joanna. She was perfect Victoria. I recall Maggie saying "I DON'T UNDERSTAND ALOT" after Victoria went bye bye. [ghost_wink]
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on July 24, 2008, 01:39:32 PM: I like that plot idea. It could easily consolidate all of the main points of the original Barnabas arc into a feature film, even eliminating the need to cut Maggie out or transform her into Magtoria Wintrevans.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on July 24, 2008, 11:55:26 PM: Sorry for the double post, but I wanted to add that, had the movie been done around ten years ago when she could have passed for the right age, I think Laura Harris could have been a good Carolyn.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: michael c on July 25, 2008, 02:59:09 AM: am i the only one who thinks it's kind of funny that gerard and i are both gay men infatuated with collinwood's high-hemmed ingenue governesses? [ghost_rolleyes]

anywho,i much prefer vicki and maggie as separate characters with separate storylines.

i never really go for the "magtoria wintevens" composite character.maggie was never intended to be collinwood governess.she was brought over because alexandra moltke very abruptly left the show in the middle of her contract.it was just happenstance.

but by the time of HODS kathryn leigh scott was ensconsed as the resident damsel-in-distress so there was no need to get into the backstory of either character.thus we get the "magtoria" compromise.

that said i hope that there's a role for both pivotal characters in the film.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Gerard on July 25, 2008, 05:01:02 AM: Quote from: mscbryk on July 25, 2008, 02:59:09 AM
am i the only one who thinks it's kind of funny that gerard and i are both gay men infatuated with collinwood's high-hemmed ingenue governesses? [ghost_rolleyes]

I can't figure it out myself, Msbryk. I've always been totally obsessed with TLATKLS (especially as Maggie, but also whatever character she played; when she left the show I was inconsolable). I have a down-to-the-nitty-gritty crush on her even as we speak. At the one and only festival I ever attended (2003), when I first glimpsed her tears poured down my cheeks. As I waited in line to speak with her (and get a few things autographed) I was shaking as if I was going to go into convulsions. I still have my picture taken with her sitting on top of my computer screen. Maybe we've got a future research project here for people in human development: Why Are Gay Men Head Over Heels In Love With TLATKLS?

Gerard
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Taeylor Collins on July 25, 2008, 03:37:00 PM: Well I am a gay man as well and I am totally in LOVE with Rose McGowan. GO FIGURE! On DS it would be Grayson Hall. And on the 1991DS it would be Joanna Going who still looks gorgeous today. Has anyone saw her? I thought it was cool to find out she was married to DYLAN WALSH one of the surgeons on NIP TUCK. I tried to put a picture of JOANNA up but I can't figure this posting picture stuff out. [ghost_wacko]
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on July 25, 2008, 04:42:07 PM: There are two ways to post pictures, Taeylor - as attachments to a post, or inline. Check out "Posting - Additional Options - Attachments" and "Posting - Standard Posting Options - Bulletin Board Code" in the forum's Help section, which can be accessed via the "help" button in the main menu at the top op every forum page. Or check out the Testing board because there are loads of examples of how to post pictures there. For example:

Quote from: Mysterious Benefactor on March 02, 2002, 12:44:48 AM
Re: regarding pictures

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Posting Attachments
(Though with attachments, things have changed a bit since that explanation. Members still need to scroll down below the text box, but now they also need to click on the "Additional Options..." link. The forum is no longer using YaBB SE. You may have noticed that at the bottom of every forum page it says "Powered by SMF 1.1.5 ". ;))

But until you master things, here's a photo of Joanna that I've yet to post from her appearance on Journeyman back in December '07:

(http://www.dsboards.com/images/Journeyman 2007-12-19 02.jpg)

(Check out this topic
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Joanna Going Alert!
for one other one.)
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Taeylor Collins on July 26, 2008, 01:21:46 AM: Thanks. And I loved that show. WHY does NBC cancel everything good?? GRRR....she looks beautiful!! I apparently didn't catch that ep. I would have KNOWN that was Joanna.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Zahir on July 27, 2008, 02:22:08 PM: This is a fun little exercise for the imagination!

Truth to tell, I once for fun worked out a reimagining of DS of my own, complete with casting suggestions! I fell back on the entire DS canon, picking and choosing as I went (drawing upon 1840s Gabriel for certain elements with Roger, for instance). Part of this was casting Ellen Page as Daphne, Roger's autistic daughter (replacing David)!

Well, we know Johnny Depp is Barnabas. And the odds are pretty great that Helena Bonham Carter will be used, but given her age and general attractiveness she'd be more my choice for Elizabeth. For one thing, she just did the whole "unrequited love" thing with Depp in Sweeney Todd and methinks she'd rather do something else.

If he is still alive--and my own hope is that he will be--Christopher Lee is a fairly obvious choice for Joshua Collins, presumably in flashback. Again, he's something of a Burton regular.

An actress I'd like to see used is Rachel Hurd Wood, who was so memorable in Peter Pan and Perfume: The Story of a Murderer. IMHO she's hasn't really had that many chances to show her acting chops, but what she has done shows real ability. And she knows her way around a costume drama! But maybe for that reason I'd rather she play either Vicki, Carolyn or (maybe) Angelique.

Frankly, Angelique should be black. Given the back story, one has to wonder while Josette would have a white maid. Frankly, Gina Torres of Serenity fame would be my first choice. Or Rosario Dawson.

Along those same lines, I would rather like to see Summer Gau as Josette or maybe Carolyn. Apart from being beautiful and talented, she has this strange, almost fragile quality. For those of you who don't know her, Summer Gau starred in both Serenity and in The Sarah Connor Chronicles. Then again, depending on how Burton goes with things, she might also make a wonderfully eerie Angelique.

The single biggest improvement, IMHO, between the original DS and the 1991 remake was the casting of Joanna Going as Victoria Winters. She was simply superb, not least because she came across as someone with a brain and a backbone. That is precisely the direction methinks Burton should take with that character. She is, after all, supposed to be a teacher and that really does require some toughness as well as people skills. As you can probably tell by now, I'm a fan of Joss Whedon so my hope to see Amber Benson from Buffy as Victoria should shock no one (she also played a "good vampire" on Supernatural). Not that she's the only choice by any means! Since I'm trying to restrict my choices to actors who are not superstars (lest the whole thing become an overblown epic) other choices for Vicky that come to mind include Zoey Deschanel, Elizabeth Harnois and Eliza Dushku.

I'm not at all sure Julia Hoffman belongs in a feature film of DS. Seems to me the story of Barnabas has rather a lot of romantic triangles in which he is one of the points--Josette/Angelique, Maggie/Vicky, Julia/Vicky, Carolyn/Vicky, etc. Needs some kind of trimming to fit into two hours. Given that, Dr. Hoffman is certainly a viable character to remain--especially if either Maggie or Vicky are dropped. But methinks Julia works best as someone to whom Barnabas is not attracted. But that comes back to who ends up cast as Josette et al, because that shows what his tastes might be. Given that--and the evident scientific accomplishments of Julia--I would suggest a woman not quite as attractive and/or rather formidable in her own right. MIchelle Forbes (BSG and Kalifornia) comes to mind, as does Lori Petty (Tank Girl). Or Molly Parker because she can play ANYTHING.

Different people see Roger Collins different ways. At heart we have a younger brother in a wealthy family, eclipsed by his sister and something of a failure in his personal life. Is he an alcoholic or just a hard drinker? A cold, hard man or a merely a weak one? Whatever those choices, he almost certainly needs to be in his forties or so, or at least come across that way. William Peterson is leaving CSI. John Heard might be available. Although he kinda violates my "no superstar" rule, methink Ben Affleck would make a very interesting younger brother to Elizabeth.

Mind you, if there is another STAR a la Johnny Depp in the film, it would most likely be his love interest--be that person Maggie, Victoria, Josette, Carolyn or some combination therein. So here are some fun possibilities, none of whom have worked with Depp before as far as I know...

Scarlett Johanson
Keira Knightly
Jessica Alba (who seems to want to stretch herself as an actress)
Reese Witherspoon
Anne Hathaway
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on July 27, 2008, 08:07:52 PM: Quote from: Zahir on July 27, 2008, 02:22:08 PM
Frankly, Angelique should be black. Given the back story, one has to wonder while Josette would have a white maid. Frankly, Gina Torres of Serenity fame would be my first choice..

I can definitely see that.

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Along those same lines, I would rather like to see Summer Gau as Josette ... Apart from being beautiful and talented, she has this strange, almost fragile quality.

Oh, I like that.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Taeylor Collins on July 27, 2008, 09:45:29 PM: I do like the idea of Angelique being an Afirician-American actress. The only person I don't agree with is AMBER BENSON as Victoria. I am huge Buffy fan, however I feel that Amber doesn't look the part nor does she have the range (as an actress) to be in a major motion picture. DON'T get me wrong. I thought Amber's acting grew by leaps and bounds on Buffy but she isn't on the level of Joanna Going or Alexandra or even Marley Shelton. Though I have never seen the pilot I love Marley in PLANET TERROR she really sold this far out crazy world and played the part great.

Tae
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on July 28, 2008, 03:27:48 AM: Random fact: On a crime show (Cold Case, I think), Amber Benson played a doctor named Julia Hoffman.

I like the idea of Benson as Victoria. I also like Gina Torres as Angelique and Summer Glau as Josette. Then again, maybe I'm just biased for Whedon alumni. [ghost_tongue2]
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Taeylor Collins on July 28, 2008, 04:23:42 AM: Maybe you are since you want Sarah Michelle to be Angelique! [ghost_wink] I LOOOVE GINA too I don't think she would be right for Angelique either especially considering she will be 40 her next bday. Maybe one day we will agree on something GOOBER! [ghost_cheesy] It's kind of funny though I am huge Whedon Buffy fan, but no of them sound appealing to for DS except for James Marsters as Roger!
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Joy Collins on July 28, 2008, 04:26:54 AM: I'm in hopes that they will do the 1795 storyline. I mean, with everything else that has to go on after Barnabas gets released from his coffin, there isn't that much time to really get into his character and his whole story. It would just be kind of like House of Dark Shadows, I think, which I like but it leaves too much out. 1795 would be perfect - it has a beginning, a middle, and an end and they could cut some things out without losing anything from the story. Then, if they wanted to make another film, they could have Barnabas in present day and everybody (people who haven't seen the show I mean) would have all the history they need to understand it.

Also, I'm kind of hoping that Helena Bonham Carter won't be in this. She's a good actress but she is in pretty much all of Tim Burton's movies these days and often alongside Johnny Depp so... To me it would just seem too much like some of his other movies and I want DS to be unique. [smlyg]

My first choice for Elizabeth/Naomi was Miranda Richardson, but Helen Mirren is a wonderful suggestion! Also, I think Gillian Anderson would make a perfect Julia! Although, sadly, I doubt there will be a place for him in this remake, I suggest Hugh Jackman for Quentin. Josh Holloway would also be an excellent choice, but since I picture Maggie Grace as Carolyn, I'm sticking with Mr. Jackman to avoid making it too LOST-ish. I think Anne Hathaway would be the best choice for Victoria and/or Josette, if that's the direction they're taking with it. If not, I could see someone like Rachel McAdams as Maggie and/or Josette. Angelique is hard to place - mostly because no one could play her like Lara Parker. There are a lot of actress I've heard suggested who certainly look the part but I don't think they could act it. (Sadly, some of my least favorite actresses have been suggested for her.) If they are doing 1795, I have this image of Catherine Zeta-Jones as Natalie. I could also picture her as Julia, but I like the idea of Gillian Anderson much better. I could definitely see Kelsey Grammer or Tim Curry as Roger, but I'm not sure I can see either of them as Joshua. I vote for Christopher Lee in that role!

I also love the idea of a Jonathan Frid cameo as the caretaker! That would be awesome! I think it would be a great idea if they has some of the other original cast members as well in putting in cameo appearances. That would be a lot of fun for the longtime fans!
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Midnite on July 28, 2008, 04:48:05 AM: Quote from: GooberCollins on July 28, 2008, 03:27:48 AM
Random fact: On a crime show (Cold Case, I think), Amber Benson played a doctor named Julia Hoffman.

Yes, the ep is called "Volunteers" as Julia did volunteer work for an underground abortion clinic but she wasn't a doctor.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on July 28, 2008, 04:52:53 AM: Thank you, Midnite. I had only found that out through Wikipedia, and it listed her character as a doctor. Yet another example of why Wikipedia is not to be totally trusted.

I just pictured Jasmine when Gina Torres was mentioned. Seeing as how that was about 5 years ago now, she may have changed quite a bit, so I'm going back to Sarah Michelle Gellar or Halle Berry for that role. Thanks to Taeylor for reminding me of her age.

Anyway, for Rev. Trask, how about an actor who's similar to the character? What freaky religious fanatics can we get to play a freaky religious fanatic? I can just picture Trask yelling about witches while hopping up and down on the sofa.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Zahir on July 28, 2008, 05:21:08 AM: Well, I do admire Amber Benson's abilities as an actress, having seen her in lots of things other than BTVS.

A lot depends on how the story plays out. My own feeling is that we should only see 1795 in flashbacks, if that. I'm not a fan of double-casting (Elizabeth/Naomi, Roger/Joshua, etc.) for the film. Frankly, the story that attracts me is that of Barnabas slowly regaining his sanity after all those centuries locked up in a coffin. If that is the 'tack' taken then I suspect a lot of characters simply will not appear--like Stokes, Adam, Quentin, etc.

The original storyline was of Barnabas torn between his vampire and human selves. The former, ruthless and obsessed with the past, was the one trying to re-create Josette. The latter, though, strove to live in the present and so was attracted to Vicky.

Methinks it would work to have Barnabas obsessing over the Governess at Collinwood (Maggie, Vicky, Daphne, whoever), but the conflict being over whether he sees her or he sees Josette. Which makes the casting of the Governess vital.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Taeylor Collins on July 28, 2008, 06:02:30 AM: I ADMIRE her too and have watched everything she has been in since BTVS. I just feel she would be wrong for Victoria.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Taeylor Collins on July 28, 2008, 03:32:03 PM: Sorry for the double post. However, I was looking through THE DS COMPANION earlier and looking at the NODS picture of Lara Parker, where she is staring out the window and taken from the side view. Its uncanny how much (to me) it looks like Charlize Theron. I think she would make a grand Angelique. And Charlize has amazing range. She is phenomenal actress IMO. I wish I could find this pic on the net and link it but I cannot.

Also if they choose to go with an Africian-Americian actress I think it would make the tryst between Angelique and Barnabas all the more scandalous. In those days interracial coupling was not proper. Although from what I have read about history and the such it was common for slaves or servants to be abused by their "owners".
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Willie Loomis on July 30, 2008, 01:07:31 PM: Quote from: Taeylor on July 25, 2008, 03:37:00 PM
Well I am a gay man as well and I am totally in LOVE with Rose McGowan. GO FIGURE!

re: Rose McGowan -- let's just say, i would have pointed her in the direction of the doggie door if she hadn't seen it...... [ghost_azn] sorry, but i can't take her. if she had to be in DS i guess she could be Carolyn. but she'd bastardize the character with the wrong kind of bitchiness.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on July 30, 2008, 02:30:32 PM: Though I like Rose McGowan as an actress, I can't see her in any role in DS. However, I don't think Taeylor was suggesting her for a role; I think she was just talking about her "girl crush" on her (unless Taeylor is serious about being a gay man).
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on July 30, 2008, 04:29:06 PM: Quote from: GooberCollins on July 30, 2008, 02:30:32 PM
(unless Taeylor is serious about being a gay man).

Well, there is that male gender icon ((http://www.dsboards.com/SMF/Themes/default/images/Male.gif)) in all of his posts. [ghost_wink]
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Zahir on July 30, 2008, 05:12:18 PM: Adding my two cents (again)...

Tim Burton is a director who tends to re-use some actors over and over. As such, I think it a pretty good bet Helena Bonham Carter and Christopher Lee will be in the movie. I have no problem with that. Sweeney Todd and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory are extremely different films despite having both Johnny Depp and Ms. Carter in the casts. I would say she is the right age for Elizabeth or for Julia.

Mr. Lee, however, is in his seventies and looks it (although a very healthy seventy-plus, to be sure). He has a marvelous commanding presence (as well as being a seriously underrated actor IMHO--try to see Jinnah to find out what I mean) which is my reason for hoping he can make a powerful impression in flashbacks--either as Joshua Collins or maybe Reverend Trask.

The more I think on it, the more I believe the essential role is Barnabas' love interest. The 'classic' version of for this to be two characters--Josette and the Governess (presumably either Maggie Evans or Victoria Winters). They may or may not be portrayed by the same actress. My own preference is to use two actresses with a similar quality, but that's just me. It seems most likely in my mind that this role/these roles are most likely to attract a genuine star or stars of Depp's stature.

Of all the names bandied about so far (of major movie stars) I find most quite acceptable: Charlize Theron, Anne Hathaway, Scarlett Johanson, etc. For the record, I would also include Keira Knightley.

But of course it needn't be a big star at all.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Taeylor Collins on July 30, 2008, 09:03:29 PM: YES I am male and yes I am gay and have a big ole crush on ROSE. I wasn't saying she would be right for anything on DS. I don't see her in ANY role in the new DS movie just to clear those two things up. I just have a fetish with Rose like a lot of gay men. She has a huge gay following. :)
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Taeylor Collins on July 30, 2008, 09:16:51 PM: I hope HBC isn't in DS. I am sick of her in all of her husbands movies. Which pisses me off to no end, cause Rose is one of boyfriends movies and it's akin to a national tragedy by the media. [ghost_rolleyes] And Willie it's fine. We don't all have to like the same things. However, Paige (CHARMED) and Cherry Darling (PLANET TERROR) were quite different from Tatum on SCREAM. She doesn't always play the bitch.

Okay am gonna get off my [5323]
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Barnabas'sBride on July 31, 2008, 12:13:52 AM: Quote from: Zahir on July 30, 2008, 05:12:18 PM
For the record, I would also include Keira Knightley.

As far as known actresses, I like Keira Knightley myself (and she would be on my list for Victoria or Josette next to Anne Hathaway & Natalie Portman). It would be interesting, though, watching she and Depp play lovers after seeing them as Elizabeth and Jack in Pirates of the Caribbean. They would both have to put in strong performances, which both are more than capable of.

Edited: I just thought of an actress whom I think would be amazing as Josette - Lucy Griffiths (Marian in the BBC's Robin Hood series).
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on July 31, 2008, 02:24:42 PM: I apologize, Taeylor. For some reason, I was thinking that you used to have a female icon on your posts and had recently changed it to male. No idea what got into me.

Anyway, I can put up with HBC in the movie as Julia. I won't be happy if she's cast as Elizabeth, though.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Taeylor Collins on July 31, 2008, 09:05:56 PM: NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO HBC PEROID!! [ghost_mad] Sorry. I don't see her as Julia, Liz or anyone on the canvas. Plus read my post above. Her in TB movies is getting a bit ridiculous
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: markyboo on July 31, 2008, 09:11:23 PM: Someone was asking who would make a good Rev. Trask. I think Michael Emerson - Ben on LOST - would be fantastic in the role!
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on July 31, 2008, 09:24:21 PM: Oh, believe me when I say that Bonham Carter is hardly my ideal choice for any of the roles. But seeing as how it's 99.9% likely that the film will be directed by Tim Burton, I have to accept that she'll likely be in it. Julia would be my ideal Bonham Carter, but Bonham Carter isn't my ideal Julia. Did that make sense?
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Taeylor Collins on July 31, 2008, 10:12:32 PM: That makes perfect sense GOOBER:) Sorry if I got a bit hostile in the other post. I am just over her in all her hubby's movies. It's getting old.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Miss_Winthrop on August 01, 2008, 12:31:07 PM: I honestly believe that the Dr Hoffman role will be the hardest to fill. She is the most complex character other than Barnabas IMO. My thoughts are turning to someone of the stature of an Emma Thompson. However, if the focus of the movie is not on the importance of the relationship between Barnabas and Dr Hoffman the choice will be a lot easier.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on August 20, 2008, 03:06:39 AM: Coming back to this thread with a revised list, my ideal cast would be:

Barnabas - Adrian Brody
Julia - Juliet Landau
Angelique - Sarah Michelle Gellar
Elizabeth - Linda Hamilton
Roger - David Hyde Pierce
Victoria - Amber Benson
Maggie - Caroline Dhavernas
Carolyn - Alexa Vega
Willie - Giovanni Ribisi
Burke - Josh Brolin

I'm sure I can think of more later.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: borgosi on August 20, 2008, 03:29:15 AM: Quote from: borgosi on August 20, 2008, 02:26:26 AM
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Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Taeylor Collins on August 20, 2008, 04:48:27 AM: See I think Julianne Moore would be a better Julia Hoffman she is 47 and has the red hair. [ghost_wink] And Charlize Theron as Angelique. Look at that pic of Angelique looking out the window in the DS Companion with her bosom overflowing. I swear it's almost creepy how much she looks like Charlize. Plus if you have seen MONSTER and all her other movies Charlize an AMAZING presence, something which is needed for Angelique. I do like your idea though with Cate as Julia as well. Decisions, decisions!! [scratch]
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: borgosi on August 20, 2008, 04:57:28 AM: That's cool I can go either way with those two. Most of the cast I change my mind about from day to day. I really hope KLS plays Liz Stoddard, and maybe Kelsey Grammer as Roger.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Taeylor Collins on August 20, 2008, 05:09:14 AM: I meant to add that I wasn't trying to you take away from you post. I hope it wasn't taken that way. There are so many endless possibilities, isn't it fun and fascinating to speculate?? [ghost_wink]

I think Julia, Victoria, and Angelique will HAVE to be right on the money. I think those are the most crucial and we already know who is playing Barney so we don't have to give any thought on that. I am fine with that bit of casting because IMHO Johnny Depp is the best male actor we have today and the most versatile!
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: borgosi on August 20, 2008, 05:17:42 AM: It's cool.

I do think that who ever plays Julia should LOOK like she's close to Barnabas' age.

I think most of the actors name are good enough to play that parts as long as they write them right. The only thing in this that I feel unsure of is the writer. I've seen some of his other work and I'm not impressed with it at all.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on August 20, 2008, 05:21:23 AM: Honestly, I think that the actress playing Julia should look a bit older than Barnabas. That's one of the (few) things I liked about the Revival's casting; not to knock Frid and Hall by any means, however!
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: borgosi on August 20, 2008, 05:27:17 AM: I'm ok with a little older.

I don't think she be much closer to his age. I always thought he looked to old for Maggie, Vickie, and the others. I think Julia should be close enough to his age so they can look like they could couple.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Taeylor Collins on August 20, 2008, 05:37:54 AM: Well Johnny is 45 but looks like a perfectly preserved 35 year old and Julianne Moore is 47 and looks like a perfectly preserved 35 year old as well. I think Julianne looks really natural too and she just came out as a DS fan. She doesn't look like she has messed with her face like most of the women in Hollywood. I never really understood how old Barnabas was supposed to be?. Of course we know that Johnathan was 43 when he started the show and Ben coincidentally was 43 as well. Madame Steele (who I thought was a worthy Grayson successor and you all know I WORSHIP GH with fervent passion) was 53 when she was doing the revival!

Goober, I kind of think it would be neat spin on things to have a Julia the same age . That is why I was looking forward to Kelly Hu as Julia. Anyhow it's fun to throw out all these ideas. Hopefully we are being watched! [ghost_smiley] I actually liked the Charlies Angels movies that August wrote and I was a fan of the original Charlies Angels. At least we know Johnny will not accept a horrid script. I think we can take some comfort in that. I also like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and I am a fan of the original Willy Wonka. Go Figure. I like reimagings I guess.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: GooberCollins on August 20, 2008, 05:46:58 AM: Barnabas I'd put in his mid-twenties, though he definitely didn't look it. The primary reason I'd like a Julia older than Barnabas is that I quite enjoyed Julia's obvious irritation at Barnabas chasing after the SYTs when he was so obviously aware of her affection for him. If Julia was younger, that could possibly break that dynamic when Barnabas gives up on finding Josette, as then, if Barnabas had a younger woman so clearly lusting after him, he'd probably jump at the chance to bite her. Of course, should that be ignored, a younger Julia could still think, "Why? I'm not much older than them. Why them and not me?"
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Zahir on August 20, 2008, 06:22:56 AM: There are so many ways to rework the dynamics of DS...and that of course would impact the casting.

For example, why doesn't Barnabas go after Julia? There are all sorts of reasons one can use, from the age factor to making her less attractive--or simply less "dainty"--that Josette or Maggie or Victoria. An interesting take on it might be that Barnabas is attracted to Julia, and in "that way" but genuinely respects her too much--or is being loyal to his image of Josette. Then again, maybe she reminds him of Angelique!

Likewise, one is faced with the perennial question of whether or not Josette has been reincarnated. I for one prefer the story sans reincarnation. That way we're seeing a more human drama of a man trying to recreate the past or of trying to reject it and move forward.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Taeylor Collins on August 20, 2008, 06:54:40 AM: You do have a point Goober! If they go with Victoria I hope she is the reincarnation of Josette and not Maggie. I just think this gives Victoria the backstory and past she longs to be connected with. Who knows what they are gonna do though? We will see....

I suppose we are getting off topic so I am not gonna post anymore concerning this and stay with casting ideas.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: borgosi on August 20, 2008, 11:52:59 AM: I don't think we should ever know for sure if she has been reincarnated.
Title: Re: Movie Cast Ideas
Post by: Zahir on August 20, 2008, 06:34:49 PM: Some Victoria possibilities...

Jessica Biel
Mila Kunis
Keira Knightly
Rachel Hurd Wood (Perfume)
Daveigh Chase (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daveigh_Chase)
Katherine Heigl
Amber Tamblyn
Summer Gau
Anna Walton (Hellboy 2)

For your consideration.